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You should know first that The Sita Who was Abducted was Maya Sita.The original Sita Immediately transported Herself to the abode of Her Supreme Friend,Uma/Parvati. It should not be thought that Sita,Who is directly situated as the Supreme Truth,was helpless.

NO ! The Supreme Brahm IS BOTH WITH FORMS AND WITHOUT FORM. The Personalities of Godhead in Vaikuntha/Paravyoma(as backed by the vedas) have the Nirguna Brahm situated in Them. This is the reason why sometimes Sadashiva(Who is Visnu tattva) is identified as Brahm. The Brahm who is attributeless,nirguna,niraakar is a FORM/Aspect of Sri KRsna. However,this Nirguna Brahm is also said to be situated in the Forms-Sriman Narayana,Sadashiva and Durga. In turn,these Eternal Forms Themselves are situated in Sri KRsna.So Sri KRsna is understood to be the basis of all,Supremely Independent. Your question : Brahm is said to be nirguna can be addressed as: The Upanishads state,"Dve vava Brahmano Rupe Murtancaiva Amurtanca." Brahm is Simulataneously Formless and with an Eternal Form. So parabrahm can be identifiesd as Sri Krsna as well as the Formless worshippable entity of the Jnyanis. This is the work of Svarupa Sakti of Bhagavan.Formless as well as the Most attractive form which chokes Sadashiva with Love and Madness.

Yes it is to be purified.It cannot be VANQUISHED or DESTROYED. Aray,even in Brahm jyana of these Jynanis,they RETAIN THEIR PERSONALITIES. Sri Shankaracharya himself states that in his commentary on Nrsimha tapani Upanishad that the Mukta RETURNS AFTER BRAHMNYANA TO WORSHIP THE SUPREME LORD NRSIMHA.(i.e. muktas TOO retain their personalities.) So Jeevatma NEVER BECOMES Brahm.This is nonsense that all the jnanis say.Becoz This is simply due to the fact that Brahm is satta matra brahm.It protects it's SATTA/Supreme Position/Svarupa and so does Jeevatma,being cit/conscious,NEVER gets stripped of its Svarupa(atomic,Tatastha/marginality,etc.)

Her amsa/expansion,Mahalaxmi,the Supreme Sovereign of Vaikuntha,creates,maintains and dissolves the Innumerable universes as if it were mere play. This same Radharani is very innocent and by Her wish,remains so hidden from the material scholars as the Origin of All.But in fact,She is the Sould of the Suprme Lord,Who Himself is the Soul of all Souls. Those who are in Her group,gorify Her over Sri Krsna and those who are in Sri Kanea's group extol Him over Her. It is,however,offensive to think that Sri Radhika is a menial maid servant of Sri Krsna. IT is One Brahm: Sri Radhakrishna. All-Uma,Rama,Sarasvati,Durga,Gayatri,all of Them along with Their consorts worship Srimati Radharani,for She is the epicentre of the Entire manifestation spitual as well as Material.

Prince Goutham,you seem to not know that Sri Sadashiva is also a personality of Godhead.He is indifferent from Sri Vishnu. Tulsidasa states,"One who offends any of these Two Lords(Rama and Shiva) will have to go to hell for billions of years eventhough they might show that they are big devotees of either of them." It is a widely known fact that Sri Uma-Mahesvara are the Inspiration behind Rama-caritamanasa. It was Lord Shiva's idea to manifest this invaluable gem ,the Lake of Lord Ramacandra's pastimes,to the world. He Himself has appointed the title to the text. Thus,Ramacaritamanasa is the most authoritative text on the position of the Supreme Lord. So we should accept what it says.

just SHUT UP. Your so full of nonsense.

Dude,your crazy.

Prince goutham,you rascal,you are ignorant about Devi bhagavtam,Radhikopanishad and Radha Tapni Upanishad,wher the Supreme Status of Radha is declared. Sri Ramakrishna sings,"After chanting Rama’s name, Thakur chants the name of Krishna: “Krishna! Krishna! Gopi Krishna! Gopi! Gopi! Krishna, the life breath of the cowherd boys. Krishna, the boy of Nanda! Govinda! Govinda!” Now he chants the name of Gauranga: “Sri Krishna Chaitanya Prabhu Nityananda! Hare Krishna! Hare Rama! Radha Govinda!” Then he repeats: “The Imperceptible Pure One.”[28] Saying this, he weeps. Watching him weep and hearing his touching voice, the devotees standing close also begin to cry. He weeps and says, “O, the Pure One! O my dear, come and eat. When shall I make my life blessed by feeding You? You have come, assuming a body, for my sake.” He is expressing his pain before Jagannath, the Lord of the Universe, the friend of the lowly, the friend of the world. “I am not separate from the world; my Master, be merciful to me.” Becoming intoxicated with ecstatic love, he sings: Live joyfully chanting the name of Jagannath of Orissa. Now he dances, singing the name of Narayana: “The Lord Narayana! The Lord Narayana! Narayana! Narayana!” Dancing, he sings again: O gopi friend! I have not yet found Him whose love has driven me mad. Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva – all three are mad. These three mad gods have conspired to break Navadvip. And in the fields of Vrindavan I have seen another who is mad. He has clad Radha in royal robes and assumed for Himself the role of a guard." Sripada Shankaracharya,the greatest "Shaivite" declares,"Shudhayati naa antaraatma krsna padambohj bhaktimriteh." Without developing devotion for Sri KRsna's feet,the MIND CANNOT GET PURE. Sri Shankaracharya declares about Sri Ramacandra in the Ramabhujanga stotra,"Lord Shiva touches His head at your feet." So,princegoutham,there you go.Stop your nonsense ranting.

Sambya adress the question first.

you are deluded.

Vivekananda tried to justify Buddhism.Ramakrishna kept quite. So how can this person know the essence of Mayavada,even ??

Sri Ramakrishna: "He Who was Rama and Krisna is now in this body." "I have seen God more clearly than i can see you." "The 19 symptoms that are manifested during mahabhava have manifested in my body at once.It takes one whole lifetime for even one of these symptoms to manifest in another devotee." "Did you tell him that I am an incarnation ? What did he say ?" "You are vishnu(to vivekananda)" "make him(vivekananda) a smoke" Sri Gauranga : "No no no !! I am just a miserly Jeevatma.Do not call me Vishnu !" "Oh Lord Sri KRsna,kindly place me on your Feet." "Oh Lord,I'm such a impure soul I have no attraction for your names." "Oh Lord,treat me however You want.You can ignore me or send me to hell,because You are fuly independent." This is the difference.I frankly have no knowledge about the position of Ramakrishna(avatar or not),but I'm sure about one thing : Sri Ramakrishna is Like Sri Shankaracharya and Bhagavan Buddha. You should respect the Person(you never know !) but you should totally boycott their philosophies. Often than not,mahatmas have their own reasons to act the way they do. *** Primate,feel free to elaborate.

Sonic yogi,Sambya thinks that whatever Narendra(Vivekananda) spoke is the final vedic law. This Vivekananda advised meat eating,so he is following it. It is another thing that sambya has absolutely no sastric support.He just goes on and on talking nonsense.

Just look at the demoniac people.They've started trying to justify meat eating openly. Meat eating is strongly condemned not only by Vaishnavas but also by Buddhism,Jainism,Shaivism(pure shaivas of course who do not equate themselves with Shiva and thus do not partake in smoking,etc),and advaitins. Just look at these rascals. It may be argued that Kumbhakarna ate meat.But it is understood that Kumbhakarna had a body of a demon.He NEEDED the meat for the nourishment of his huge body. If Kaisersose provides proof that he and sambya are demons by their bodily structure,then they can eat meat.

By the grace of the Name alone Lord Sambhu (Ýiva) is immortal and, though endowed with inauspicious paraphernalia (such as a wreath of skulls), is yet a storehouse of blessings. Again, it is by the grace of the Name alone that Siddhas (adepts), sages and Yog¶s like Suka, Sanaka and others enjoy divine raptures, Narada realized the glory of the Name; that is why, while Sri Hari is beloved of the world (and Hara is dear to Sri Hari), he (Narada) is dear to Hari and Hara (ViSnu and Siva) both. It was because of his repeating the Name that the Lord showered His grace on Prahlada, who thereby became the crest-jewel of devotees. Dhruva repeated the name of Sri Hari with a feeling of indignation (at the harsh treatment received from his step-mother) and thereby attained a fixed and incomparable station in the heavens. It is by remembering the holy Name that Hanum.n (son of the wind-god) holds Sri Rama under His thumb. The vile Ajamila and even the celebrated elephant and the harlot of the legend were liberated by the power of Sri Haris name. I have no words to depict the glory of the Name: not even Rama can adequately glorify it. Note: Tulsidasa very well knows the Indifference of the Name and Sri Ramacandra.He explains it in detail.These statements reveal his love and affection for the Lord as he glorifies the Devotee before the Lord,"Hanuman holds the Lord under his arm."(just see!)

Sant,I'm talking to Princegoutham,why r u sayin sorry. wt is ur question ?

I greet the name .Rama of the chief of Raghus,* which is composed of seed-letters* representing the fire-god, the sun-god and the moon-god (viz., Ra, and Ma respectively). It is the same as Brahm. (the creative aspect of God), Vi¦Äu (His preservative aspect) and Siva (His disintegrating aspect), and the vital breath of the Vedas; It is attributeless, peerless and a mine of virtues. It is the great spell which Lord Mahesvara mutters and which, when imparted by Him at Kasi (the modern V.r.Äas¶) leads to emancipation†. Its glory is known to Lord Ganesa, who is worshipped before all others as a concession to the Name‡. The oldest poet (Valmiki) is acquainted with the glory of the Name, inasmuch as he attained to purity by repeating It in the reverse order§. Hearing the verdict of Lord Siva that the name is as good as a thousand other names of God, Goddess Bhavani (Parvati) dined with Her consort after uttering It only once#. Noticing such partiality of Her heart for the Name 'Rama', Hara (Lord Siva) made that lady, who was the ornament of Her sex, the ornament of His own person (i.e., made Her a part of His own being by assigning to Her the left half of His body). Siva knows full well the power of the Name, due to which deadly poison served the purpose of nectar to Him.

Prince Goutham,you are a complete rascal. [4.6.49] bhavams tu pumsah paramasya mayaya durantayasprsta-matih samasta-drk taya hatatmasv anukarma-cetahsv anugraham kartum iharhasi prabho “My dear Lord, you are never bewildered by the formidable influence of the illusory energy of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Therefore you are omniscient and should be merciful and compassionate toward those who are bewildered by the same illusory energy and are very much attached to fruitive activities.” This Sadashiva is an expansion of Godhead,that's why He is never bewildered by Maya. [40] pumsah krpayato bhadre sarvatma priyate harih prite harau bhagavati priye 'ham sacaracarah tasmad idam garam bhuñje prajanam svastir astu mei “My dear gentle wife Bhavani, when one performs benevolent activities for others, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Hari, is very pleased. And when the Lord is pleased, I am also pleased, along with all other living creatures. Therefore, let me drink this poison, for all the living entities may thus become happy because of me.” Sri Hari and Hara are indifferent,yet The Lord takes up the Expansion of Sadashiva to manifest devotional sentiments in His Person.There is no harm in worshipping either of these Lords,but some fools offend the other Form in the Process.THis is condemned. Sri Advaita Prakasa (ch. 1., 4., 6., 15., 16., 18.) by Isana Nagara [ch. 1] Sadasiva and Mahavisnu are non-different “...As Lord Sadasiva, the transcendental deity from Vaikuntha who is the fountainhead of all the forms of Siva within the innumerable mundane universes, saw the wicked age of Kali, or quarrel, destroying all godly qualities in man, He became filled with compassion. After many deliberations with goddess Yogamaya He sat down on the shore of the Causal Ocean, where Lord Mahavisnu lies in mystic slumber. That great, ever-joyful yogi sat down on a yoga-asana and began to practise yoga there. After 700 years of penance the Universal Lord Mahavisnu appeared to Him. Five-headed Sadasiva then offered many kinds of indescribable praises to Mahavisnu, who replied: "My dear Sadasiva! Why are You trying to please Me by performing such difficult austerities? You and I are one! We differ only in body!" Sadasiva replied: "My dear Lord, unless You empower Me to save suffering mankind, how can I do it?" Then Mahavisnu embraced Sadasiva and thus They assumed one captivating, radiant golden form in which They would appear, roaring out 'Krsna! Krsna!' Then a most amazing divine voice resounded in the sky, proclaiming: "Listen, O Mahavisnu! First descend in the womb of Labha-devi in this form— later I will personally descend in Nadiya. You will then find Me in the abode of Saci and Jagannatha. Balarama and all the other devotees will also all take birth there to redeem the conditioned souls." Hearing this, Mahavisnu who is non-different from Sadasiva, entered the womb of Labha-devi in Santipura.” In his previous birth Kuvera Pandita was the celestial treasurer Kuvera, the head of the Guhyakas, or ghostly followers of Lord Siva. As he was a loyal disciple of Lord Siva, Dhanapati Kuvera had performed penances with mantras to attain the Lord as his son, and the Lord blessed him by making him his father in his appearance on earth as Sri Advaita Acarya...” This explains why Sri Sadashiva is understood to be the origin of Brahma,Vishnu and Mahesa in some literature.It is Due to His indifference with the Primeval Purusha,MAHA vishnu. Pulastya says "When Lord Siva became aware of Andhak's imminent attack, he requested Nandi to summon all the Ganas who were more than 700 crores in number. Some of the prominent Ganas like Pashupat, Kalmukh, Mahavrati, Digambar, Maini, Mahapashupat and Vrishabhdhwaj arrived at Mandar Mountain to help Lord Siva at the request of Nandi.” On seeing the valiant Gana- Pashupat, Lord Siva embraced him, which surprised all the other Ganas. They were amazed at the special honour given to him. Lord Siva realised their astonishment and said: "Although all of you have great devotion towards me but in your ignorance, you have shown disrespect towards Lord Visnu. All of you except Pashupat don't realise that both of us [Lord Siva and Visnu] are inseparable and there is no difference between us. Pashupat is aware of this and hence he has been accorded the highest honour." Having said this, Lord Siva revealed his majestic form of Sadasiva to the Ganas. The Ganas were bewildered on seeing the whole universe existing within Sadasiva. Lord Sadasiva then transformed his appearance into that of Lord Visnu. The Ganas also viewed the forms of deities like Indra, Surya and Lord Brahma etc. in him. They were now convinced that both Lord Siva and Lord Visnu were the same. The dawning of this realisation liberated them from their ignorance. Lord Siva blessed the Ganas and embraced them. All the Ganas then took their position all around Mandar Mountain and readied themselves for the forthcoming attack. This is stated in Maha-Shiva Purana. Brahma Vaivarta Purana (Prakriti Khanda 2.56.61) svapne jagarane sasvath Krsna dhyana ratah Sivah yatha Krsnas tatha sambhur na bhedo madhavesayoh "Sleeping or awake, Siva is constantly absorbed in meditation on Sri Krsna. As is Sri Krsna, so is Sambhu; there is no difference between Madhava and Isa." This is like saying,"There is no difference between Visnu and Sri KRsna".But it is understood that Sri KRsna is the basis of all Forms of Godhead.

no no no...Don't try to avoid the the allegation by saying,"Vivekananda has popularized vedanta." CAN YOU PROVIDE SASTRIC PROOF THAT "Nirguna Brahm takes the form of Finite to display 'pastimes' out of His 'love' and 'compassion'." Seeing as how Shankaracharya has a no nonsense fact established,"Nirguna Brahm Cannot exhibit PASTIMES,LOVE and COMPASSION." (And In bharatvarsa,sir,we accept one of the four doctrines on the vedanta for they are the only ones who actually match what's given in the vedanta,and not Narendra's who smoked pot and advised on eating meat) your answer should be: Yes OR No.

Look whose taking about Avataras... He who has no consiferation for Vedas and the Vedanta is talking about the Supreme Lord's descension. You think you can percieve the Entire truth of an Avatara ?? Chooses to finite itself ??? You talk of God as Infinte Compassion and Infinite Love,So your saying that Nirguna Brahm is Love and Compassion and has desires to exhibit his pastimes ?? Just look at your paltry knowlegde.You have absolutely no sense and you are talking as some mahatma.Just keep your knowledge to yourself. Sri KRsna Descends As HE IS into the material world. Just support ONE of your statements by the sastric pramana.Don't just sit ther and expect us to accept your word for it.

Shankaracharya did not believe in the Geeta in the Vaishnava Way ??? Well he said that Sri Narayana is beyond ALL material Manifestation,Unborn,Eternal. Now by Sriman Narayana,he meant the four handed divine form of,Names,abodes,Leelas of Sri Narayana. How is this non-Vaishnava ?? He TAUGHT the geeta wrong.The reason behind this is explained in Padma Purana.

Ignoring Upanishads ?? Do you even know what your saying. Look who's in ignorance.

See it as you may, you can NEVER JUSTIFY such acts.

Are you saying that Vivekananda never smoked ??? Didn't Ramkrishna specifically instruct someone to 'fix a smoke' for Narendra ??

Mayavada is what...A Syllabus course,that whatever the faculty speaks,is a part and parcel of this course ???? I can say that Since Shankaracharya's statements conform with those of the Vaishnavacharyas and Sri KRsna Himslef,it is accepted to be true.