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but you'll are not getting it properly... The muktkopanishad conforms with the vedic sastras.There's basically Brahm,Jeeva Maya splattered all over the vedas. There is either descriptions of relationship between the three,the ways to attain brahm and so on... If a puny scholar cannot comprehend the dates/authenticity of a text,doesn't mean it is always bogus.If the sastra conforms with the established siddhanta,it has to be accepted. And the Supreme nature,relationship between brahm Jeeva maya,means to attain brahm etc is described in the P.S. as it should be described in a exalted Vaishnavacharya's work.It is not a work of an ordinary sentimental lay man,much less the work of a gyani. There is zero probability that an outsider Vaishnavacharya composed P.S. and left in the current of Shankara's works and his disciples simply stood by and watched. How naive would it be to imagine a Gyani(who is taught in shankar sampradaya that naam,rupa,guna,leela CANNOT be the attributes of Brahm.) composing something that reeks with the most intimate details of bhakti(prema bhakti that too.) ???? Yes it would indeed be naive. And considering the Visnu sahasranama bhasya,it is imperative that we accept P.S. Note: IT is very amusing that Aadi Shankaracharya quoted,"Harer nama Harer nama harer nama Kaivalam..." in vishnu sahasranama bhasya. "Only Hari's name Only Hari's name Only Hari's name..." Not once.Not twice.He said it thrice. Fine.This is atleast something which the vaishnavas uphold. BUT. he further writes as bhasya,"Even WITHOUT SHRADDHA,if you chant Hari's name you will cross samsara." This is something very interesting for 1) Mayavadis shun names and forms of God,saying that Rama/Krsna were in sattva guna..their names,activities,etc were in sattva guna and here we are,looking up at the original culprit declaring such a bold statement. 2) Even exalted Vaishnavascharyas have maintained that SHRADDHA and LOVING SENTIMENTS ARE A MUST if the sadhaka has to even purify his mind. Gauranga Mahaprabhu-"Manera smarana Praan." "Remembrance is the life breath of sadhana bhakti." This is just an observation and not a provocation.

nothing of the sort : as in Shankaracharya couldn't himself authenticate his work to the common people. (his disciples obviously knew...)

then i can firmly conclude that advaita vedantists lie... lets see...Swami Chinmayananda,for eg?? he provided a list of shankaracharya's works in 1988. so he lied AND Swami Chinamayananda is DEFINITELY a lesser scholar than Kaisersose can ever be. you posted a link of wikipedia...but it seems that you haven't seen the what it says about Nrsimha poorva tapaniya upanishad..A commentary has been attributed of the same to Adi Shankaracharya or Gaudapada even(better still,he being his guru).Going by your process,we should accept what wikipedia says. *** and you know what Gandhians did when they read gandhi's autobiography ?? They were completely aghast.I have a thourough gandhian as an aqcuaintance..He REFUSED TO BELIEVE IT WAS HIS AUTOBIOGRAPHY.He flipped. I can see ignorant disciples of Shankaracharya doing the same when they read the prabodha sudhakara. except,you see,during Gandhiji's time,there was press and they was mass media.Gandhi himself authenticated his autobiography. But during shankara;s time,there was nothing of the sort...

what your saying is true...but can you prove P.S. is not authored by Aadi Shankara on this basis ???

You 'interpret' the vedas like whaaa ??? *** "Sada pashyanti surayah tad vishno paramam padam."- vedas. Paramam- The highest/Supreme most place of Visnu is attained by the mahatmas. This highest goal is further explained: "Anusmin svargeloke jeye prati tishthati.."- vedas After bhagavat praapti,the mahatmas go to the Supreme most abode. This is the supreme goal of the vedas. " Such is the greatness of this (Brahman).The Person is even greater than this. All this world(material manifestation) is a quarter of His manifestation, the other three quarters of His manifestation constitute immortal heaven. " - Chandogya Upanishad 3.12.6 "The paravyoma/vaikuntha or the Spiritual sky,which is the supreme goal of every living entity makes up 3/4th of the total manifestation,whereas the mahat tattva/material creation is 1/4th." -Srimad Bhagavatam. When the Supreme goal is Paravyoma or the spiritual sky,OBVIOUSLY,the means(bhakti) to attain to that goal is also Supreme (duh).

kali upasaka....this is just another way to say,"Adi Shankara CAN NEVER ACCPET SRI KRSNA AS SAGUNA BRAHM." But the more popular works...Visnu sasranama bhasya and Bhagavad Gita Bhasya establish the opposite. It is very clear that NO FOLLOWER OF ADVAITA will accept even the existence of Saguna saakar Brahm,much less accept Sri Krsna to be the same.This is precisely why they join the sampradaya in the first place.They do not accept saguna brahm.Period. So,how can anyone propose that Adi Shankara's disciples have written the said work ??? And this prabodha shudhakara relates the incident where Sri Shankaracharya gives the knowledge of Sri Krsna bhakti tattva to his mother. This is confirmed historically,as it is known he established a Deity of Sri Krsna right next to his mother's tomb in kaladi. He gave bhakti upadesh to his mother and himself resorted to bhakti in the end.

not only is there prabodha sudhakara but also there is a commentary of Nrsimha poorva tapaniya upanishad.(the same one where Shankara ACCEPTS that Nrsimha is Saguna Saakar Brahm,Who is worshippable by EVERYONE.) Besides do you think we'll buy whatevr YOU say ???

The Complete Works of Shankaracharya This list is based on the works included in the Vani Vilasa edition of the complete works of Shankaracharya, republished by Samata Books. The number in square brackets after some works indicates its length in shlokas. Prasthana Trayi Commentaries Aitereyopanishad Bhashya Bhagavadgita Bhashya PDF Brahmasutra Bhashya HTML Brhadaranyakopanishad Bhashya Chandogyopanishad Bhashya Ishopanishad Bhashya Kathopanishad Bhashya PDF Kenopanishad Bhashya Prashnopanishad Bhashua Mandukyopanishad Karika Bhashya Mundakopanishad Bhashya Taittiriyopanishad Bhashya Other Commentaries Adhyatma Patala Bhashya Hastamalakiya Bhashya Lalita Trishati Bhashya Nrsimha Purvatapanyupanishad Bhashya Sanatsujatiya Bhashya Vishnu Sahasranama Stotra Bhashya Longer Philosophical Works Prapancha Sara Sarva VedAnta SiddhAnta Sara Sangraha PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Upadesha Sahasri PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Viveka Chudamani PDF from Sanskrit Document Site PDF with commentary of Swami Chandrashekhara Bharati Shorter Philosophical Works Advaita Anubhuti [84] Advaita Panchakam [5] Anatma Shrivigarhana [18] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site PDF with English translation and Tamil translation and commentary Aparokshanubhuti [144] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site PDF with English translation and Tamil translation and commentary PDF with an another English translation, by Shri Ramachander Atmabodha [68] Brahma Anuchintanam [28] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Brahmajnanavallimala [20] PDF with English translation From Sringeri Vidyabharati Foundation Dhanyashtakam [8] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Ekashloki [1] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Jivanmukta Anandalahari [17] Kaupina Panchakam [5] Note: This stotra was not included in the Vani Vilas edition. PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Laghu Vakyavrtti [18] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Manisha Panchakam [5] Maya Panchakam [5] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Nirvana Manjari [12] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Nirvana Shatakam [6] PDF with English translation From Sringeri Vidyabharati Foundation Panchikaranam [prose] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Prabodha Sudhakara [257] <============ oops what this? PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Prashnottara Ratnamalika [67] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Praudha Anubhuti [17] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Sadachara Anusandhanam [55] Sadhana Panchakam or Upadesha Panchakam [5] PDF with English translation From Sringeri Vidyabharati Foundation Shatashloki [100] SvarupanusandhAna Ashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Svatma Nirupanam [153] Svatmaprakashika [68] Tatvopadesha [87] Vakyavrtti [53] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Yati Panchakam [5] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Yoga Taravali [29] In Praise of Ganesha Ganesha Pancharatnam [5] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Ganesha Bhujangam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site In Praise of Shiva Dakshinamurti Ashtakam [10] Dakshinamurti Stotram [19] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Dakshinamurti Varnamala Stotram [25] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Dasashloki Stuti [10] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Dwadasha Jyotirlinga Stotram [13] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Kalabhairava Ashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Mrityunjaya Manasika Puja [46] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Shiva Anandalahari [100] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Shiva Aparadhakshamapana Stotram [17] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Shiva Bhujangam [4] Shiva Keshadipadantavarnana Stotram [29] Shiva Manasa Puja [5] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Shiva Namavali Ashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Shiva Padadikeshantavarnana Stotram [41] Shiva Panchakshara Nakshatramala Stotram [28] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Shiva Panchakshara Stotram [6] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Suvarnamala Stuti [50] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Vedasara Shiva Stotram [11] In Praise of Shakti Ananda Lahari PDF from Sanskrit Document Site AnnapUrna Ashtakam [8] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Bhavani Bhujangam [17] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Bhramaramba Ashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Devi Bhujangam [28] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Devi Chathuhshasti Upachara Puja Stotram [72] GaurI Dashakam [11] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Kalyana Vrshti Stava [16] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Kanakadhara Stotram [18] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Lalita Pancharatnam [6] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Mantramatrka Pushpamala Stava [17] Minakshi Pancharatnam [5] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Minakshi Stotram [8] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Navaratna Malika [10] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Saundaryalahari [100] Sharada Bhujanga Prayata Stotram [8] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Tripurasundari Ashtakam [8] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Tripurasundari Manasa Puja [127] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Tripurasundari Veda Pada Stotram [10] In Praise of Vishnu and His Avatars Achyutashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Bhagavan Manasa Puja [10] Govindashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Jagannathashtakam [8] Krishnashtakam [8] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Lakshminrsimha Karavalamba (Karunarasa) Stotram [17] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Lakshminrsimha Pancharatnam [5] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Mohamudgara (Bhaja Govindam) [31] HTML from Kamakoti Pitha Pandurangashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Rama Bhujanga Prayata Stotram [29] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Shatpadi Stotram [7] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site vishnu Bhujanga Prayata Stotram [14] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site vishnu Padadikeshanta Stotram [52] In Praise of Other Deities and Tirths Ardhanarishwara Stotram [9] PDF with English translation From Sringeri Vidyabharati Foundation Gangashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Guru Ashtakam [10] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Another PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Hanumat Pancharatnam [5] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Kashi Panchakam [5] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Manikarnika Ashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Narmadashtakam [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Nirguna Manasa Puja [33] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Subrahmanya Bhujangam [33] PDF with English translation from Sanskrit Document Site Uma Maheshwara Stotram [13] PDF with English translation From Sringeri Vidyabharati Foundation Yamunashtakam [8] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site Yamunashtakam(2) [9] PDF from Sanskrit Document Site

Very true... But for sadhak bhaktas...We have to literally 'concieve' the siddha deha in the mind. When we form this bhava sarira and perform bhakti in the mind,that becomes the highest bhakti.It should be done always and it comes by practice. If a person is dumb or deaf,he can't do external bhakti...He has to do this internal bhakti..Everyone has to do it...Sasanga bhakti..(with one's mind.) Vamsivat babaji goes one step further and says,"You have cry for His prema.There is no other way.Crying is the fastest way to the goal." Becoz everything else might increase our ego,"I'm chanting 20 rounds.etc." And crying can happen only when you actually start being aware of the Lord's presence within...remembering His pastimes...how pathetic and disgusting we are...that we don't embrace Him... Such constant humble feelings and loving sentiments towards Sri NAndanandana will trigger crying. Gauranga Mahaprabhuji always told His disciples,"Cry for Prema." One if His devotees wouldn't cry in sankirtan.So He told him,"Why don't you cry in front of the Lord while taking His names." The devotee says,"I try very hard,o Lord.I try my best...But howmuchever humble feelings i try to infuse,i can't cry." So that devotee,took chillies and came the next day.When everyone would cry and dance,he would quietly put the chillies in his eyes,just for the tears. Other devotee saw him,he told Gauranga,"He is putting chilli paste in his eyes" . "Why are you doing that ?" He asked. The devotee said,"I want to cry in front of the Lord.That's why." Gauranga went and hugged him. and he rebuked the other devotee for doing his own sadhana properly and not observing others. The devotee had so much of surrender....that he immediately won over Gauranga....

besides Shankaracharya HIMSELF is declaring it in prabodha sudhakara. Expect Sri Shankaracharya to know the Supreme Truth better than Kaisersose and sambya,both put together.

This is further explained in the Varaha upanishad. So when some unitelligent person states(Karma <==> bhakti) => gyan, he is doing so out of his own deluded whims and absolutely no understanding. It's like common sense,THERE IS NO EMANCIPATION UNLESS SRI KRSNA KRIPA/MERCY IS OBTAINED. All the Veda sastras go on and on about mercy of Bhagavan.

Nanak said Sri Krsna wasn't God ?? He literally sang everywhere,"Sing the glories of the Name of Rama.Only this name will deliver you." Nanak,Tulsidasa,Meera etc. do not exactly quote vedas but they are all perfect mahatmas who gave vedic knowledge through their simple poetry. I'm not sure but Nanak can be traced to Nimbarka Sampradaya and so is Meera,Surdas from there. Tulsidasa comes from Ramanandi Sampradaya,which was started by Ramananda(himself from Ramanuja sampradaya),when the stubborn Ramanujites refused to accept anyone except brahmanas. All these great personalities are very closely inter-related. It's a different issue that sikhs have completely strayed in order to establish their place as a religion.This always happens when material people take up the seat of their guru.

I know It is very wrong comparing the greatness of two mahatmas but it is necessary: NOT EVEN SRILA PRABHUPADA could explain with full clarity why Mukti(sayujya mukti) is impossible without the mercy of Sri Krsna. Maharajji expounds on it effortlessly. The grace with which he conducts himself and his expressions only confirm his intense internal bhava. I just can't see myself talking/entertaining rot about Srila Prabhupada.I just don't see how you people can do so about other people just becoz 'he is depicted like Gauranga.'

It's sad to see this..Really. For the record,the characterless 'victim' was a virgin and the case was dropped with apologie. You know what he said...."I have forgiven them.I've forgotten it." It's so sad... Ordinary people like you and me cannot pierce the transcendentality of Hari and Guru. No one understood Krsna was God.The Jnanis...they saw nothing in place of Krsna.Becoz they worshipped His formless aspect.. Rama..some sae ten heads,others saw 20 heads...No one could see the divine figure that Hanumanji sees. Same goes with the mahatmas. you cannot recognise them by just seeing his appearance. I remember an iskon devotee.I made him see one of Mahrajji's lectures...He flipped ! He has long hair.How can he have long hair ?? Only Krsna is Purusha.He just can't have long hair.His son said,"His followers are looking like fake devotees." I quickly switched off the T.V. fearing he might commit more offenses. I felt like screaming out to him,"Did you even hear a single word he said about Sri krsna Tattva and his incomparable knowledge ?? You just saw his glittering gold watch and you saw hair on his head. Don't you know that Nimbarkacharya had hair on his head ??? He was of such a stature that you can never even dream of attaining the same."

The mahatma is recognised by scriptural support and by identifying his symptoms. Have anyone of you lead a sankirtana party for Six months continuously ??? In the forests of Mangarh,he lay on the forest floors for weeks at a stretch..In bhava.This is his stature. Just imagine how big a Vaishnava aparadha are you committing. Tell me one single website which says that he is Caitanya Mahaprabhu Himself or Radharani. No. Forget all the claims that they make even otherwise.. But,for God's sake,Have you seen the person ?? Have you heard his profound lectures ?? A person who can establish,in the highest level of sanskrit,that the six darshan sastras,the puranas,the vedas all point towards Sri Krsna alone,is certainly no ordinary person. Atleast have the decency to respect him. Actually you people are just like ramanujites. The ramanujites don't accept Sri Gauranga as God.Fine. But some of them go ahead and call His philosophy bogus and offend Him by rejecting even His being a Maha-bhagavata.

Still,it is very astonishing to find that Sri Maharajji's followers(who have obviously advanced in sadhana) experience intense visions of Sri Radha Krsna and the Iskcon fanatics are just shouting Krisna Krsna(It is a different thing that they are deluded they are taking Hari NAma.) Still,It is seen that Sri Prakashananda Sarasvati,who was offered the seat of one of Shaankar-peethas,refused the seat and served his master,the abovesaid Maharajji. Still,it is astonishing that a 'womaniser' is fully endowed with the knowledge of veda sastras...even when all your so called scholars(who by rote learning) try to act all-knowing. Still,it is found that when Sri MAharajji displayed full knowledge of Brahm tattva,the 500 scholars were stunned and were speechless.This took place in kashi,where the previous jagadgurus were recognised. When a exalted prema bhakta would eat the 'rotten' Jagannath Prasadam fallen on the ground...which even the cows wouldn't eat,some 'devotees' condemned him. Gauranga went and hugged him. Do you seriously have the audacity to think that you reserve the the right to declare the status of a mahatma ??? You say he has a wife.Yes.He has a wife.He has children too. Have you heard of Prahlad MAharaja ?? He had so many riches...He ruled the universe.He was married.So he is fraud ??? You are fraud...Becoz you do not even know tattva.

Subala upanishad is 'later day dubious text'. Boo hoo. Your the biggest loser...Just becoz your head is too thick to understand some things,doen't mean that it is false.. The rest of your post ??? Its all nonsense speculation. *** Chandu, You are such a two faced twit. "Sambya is a dirty muslim." Did i say the above line ?

oh and if by 'bogus texts of shankara',you mean,'prabodha sudhakara',boy you need to eat your own head. Ignorance is bliss? Hardly..It is downright foolishness.

Are you suggesting that I believe Sai Baba is an incarnation..even Rajneesh ??? God,You are mistaken.. Anyway...I think you are deluded. I have already said that I have no interest in establishing Chaitanya as God.He is THE MOST ATTRACTIVE personality in the bhakti tradition and that's that.... Kaisersose..you are truly repulsive.

why are we talking about gyan again ??? "Mam ekam sharnam vraja." this declaration is enough for intelligent people.

The gyana which the shankarites follow leads to atma-gyana.--(1) The knowledge(gyana) which Sri Krsna bestows with His mercy eliminates the Vidya Maya also(in short: Brahm Gyan.)--(2) Tad nugra haituke moksha siddhir bhavitu marhati- Sri Shankaracharya. The knowledge which You bestow,Oh Sri Krsna,enables one to attain mukti. This latter process of Gyan...Where all the normal sadhanas are performed uptil atma-gyan and then after that,Sri Krsna bhakti is performed for His mercy....Is described in the vedas. The gyan which you talk about (1) is the one which declares to be independent of Sri Krsna kripa and has started from the Mayavada school. The gyan (2) is described in the geeta as being the one leading to Brahm Gyan...

I meant is an answer to "Christian God is NOT personal(with form)". Not"Christian God is beutiful." so your saying,Raksasa becomes invisible,means he destroys his body(notably his eyes) and then looks ?? What rot. He becomes invisible to OUR...that doesn't mean his eyes actually becomes nonexistent. the suksma sarira IS a SARIRA.Which yogi can remain by niraakar form..Gazing without eyes ??? What are u saying ?? GOD !!! !! Thanks for pointing out that i don't know purusha sukta by heart(again,what was the purpose ?? anyway...) I KNOW there is not a 'SINGLE' mention of Narayana...that's why i further pointed out that subala upanishad clarifies it further as the Primeval Purusha being Narayana(are you in such a hurry to taunt me ?? Gee.be patient. read the post properly.) !! Durga..Sadashiva(i doubt He displays Opulence like wealth) obviously possess the six opulences...silly,they are the Eternal forms of Godhead. But when Shankaracharya and notably all the acharyas pointed out Sri Krsna..it is meant that He is the Original Bhagavan with six opulences(poor choice of word(original) but there 's no other word...),the Basis of all forms of God(and thus Their opulences too(duh)). Note: Parashara muni is undisputedly the FIRST ONE to have defined this term(Shada aisvarya sampanna).And Parashara Muni termed Sri Krsna Thus. Besides...I thought the Christian God was He. Did i miss out on something(that your saying it refers to Devi ?) you know good english !! who taught you?

Very true.Eternally true.In fact,you just stated the Supreme summary of the vedas(it's a different thing that you don't actually follow it.) BUT. "Dharmah projhit kaitavo paramo nirmatsaranam sataam," -Srimad Bhagavatam 1.1.2. dharma refers to- dharma,artha,kaam,moksa. "Agyan tamera naam kahiye kaitav"- Gauranga Mahaprabhu. The best Vaishnavacharya is stating too.Dharma,artha,kaam and moksha. These are kaitav...fraudulent..They are NOT TO BE HANKERED AFTER. He further states,"taar madhye moksha vancha kaitav pradhan" Out of these four,Moksha is the most dangerous. So , "Sarva dharma parityajya..." Sarva dharma..this 'dharma' refers to Dharm.Arth.Kaam.Moksa. Dharm,arth,kaam- these are for Sansar...Material happiness.(karma marga.) Moksha.(Jnyana marga.) So this 'dharma' is to be decried. What is to be done ? "MAm EKAM sharnam Vraja." Surrender ONLY to Me. Bhagavatam states that"This surrendering to Sri Krsna ITSELF is Bhagvata Dharma." So when Sri Krsna states,"Abandon all VARIETIES of Religion." He means variations of the above four- Dharma,artha,kaam and moksa. Whatever nonsense philosophies are there..they are all variations of Dharma artha Kaam and Moksha. You might ask,"Why isn't bhagavata dharma included in the list ?" Bhagavata dharma ITSELF is the religion that teaches SOLELY to surrender unto Sri Krsna. But there is the need to understand Sri Krsna.Who is Sri Krsna? How does He appear? Of what nature are His activities?? Is He kind,Is He all-pervasisve? Is He all attractive?? All this is FIRSTLY explained in the Bhagavatam and by the acharyas. A western person doesn't even know how He looks.So what should he do?How will he surrender? That's why it is necessary to know Sri Krsna Tattva.Only then surrender to Him is possible. A person who thinks that Sri Krsna is not merciful..why will he surrender?? But the acharyas explain that Sri Krsna is an ocean of mercy..Infinitely merciful... This knowledge come by knowing this tattva jnana. I still don't see why is it so hard to understand.

fine. Gyana is the path which Sri Krsna laid down in the Geeta. The gyana marga which you cherish is not independent.