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post no. 22 is exclusively meant for people post along the same line of thought of "hing."

Jeevatma is NOT GOD. If you say it is,then you have to reconcile the vedic statements that there are THREE SEPERATE ETERNAL tattvas : The controller(Brahm),the enjoyer(jeevatma) and the enjoyed(maya) with the nonsense theory that 'Jeeva is brahm.' Tulsidasa states,"Kahat kathin smujhat kathin sadhan kathin vivek." To even explain the Nirguna brahm is tough,it is much more tough to understand it and toughest is to practise jnana marga. Sri Kripaluji Maharaja states,"All these Advaita vadis...they talk ABSOLUTE RUBBISH.Sab bakwaas karte hai.Sab bakwaas." He further challenges,"There are FOUR conditions before even gaining,talking,thinking about Nirguna Brahm : Shanto dant uparatas titiskhu. Sham-Shant means control over the mind.How many people in 9 billion have control over their mind ??" There are many people who are trying to explain that everything is brahm.this that... All nonsense.You people are just like the advaita vadis who just go on talking nonsense,even when they are not qualified. Shanto dant uparatas titikshu AND THEN : Athato brahm Jigyasa. This is the crteria set by shankaracharya himself. So anyone who thinks he can expound on Nirguna brahm is a complete fool. Even Brahm is not the name in the nirguna sect.It doesn't even have a name.So how can you explain ??? ALL nonsense.

This is inevitable. Chant chant chant.Chant 16 rounds .chant 100 rounds. Iskon has totally sidetracked. Chant Harinama,they say. What Hari nama ? Can you take HARI NAMA ?? Hari nama is Sri Hari Himself.All His energies are invested in Sri Nama.Imagine what Hari nama would do you if it actually appeared in your mind.It would send you in raptures which even the Paramhamsas don't experience. Unless such happiness is experienced,there is no chance that you will remain doing the external sadhana.That's a fact. Navadha bhakti is to actually create a vessel where the Pure Nama will appear. For this the mind should be purified with smarana. The vedanta states ,"Smaranti ca." You have to REMEMBER Sri Krsna. You chant and dance,but the main point is remembrance.Unless the mind starts getting purified with smarana,it is impossible for Hari nama to start showing it's effects.IMPOSSIBLE.

The actor is one.However he dons many appearances to act in different capacities.He remains the same original actor however. There is one difference.Sri Krsna can maintain Infinite forms,Names,Abodes and Qualities at the same time. "Ananta nama rupaya." "Satangyana anantam Brahm."

No.This is not pantheistic. Sri Krsna is the centre of all adoration,even in Vaikuntha. In the capacity of the Supreme Majestic Person,He rules Vaikuntha and by His part,Lord Mahavisnu,He is known as the Purusha of the Purusha sukta of the vedas. In the capacity of Sadashiva,He pleases Himself by devotion,whether it is serving Ramacandra or Himself. As Ramacandra,Who is none other that He Himself,He projects divine leelas that do not explore the conjugal rasas. As svayam Bhagavan Sri Krsna,He maintains all these forms simultaneously. It is your ignorance that you consider Sadashiva as a seperate personality than Sri Krsna.He is Visnu tattva. It is your ignorance that entertains thoughts that sadashiva is Independent and Another Godhead.

Yes..The site is under the able guidance of Sri Prakashananda maharaja,who is the realised devotee of Sri Kripaluji Maharaj. Prakashanand Sarasvati Maharaja was offered the seat of one of the Shankaracharya peethas(jagadguru title.)He refused it because he considered it futile.Instead,he leads his life devoted to the Lotus feet of Maharajji. Radhe radhe.

It's very important to note that svayam Bhagavan Sri Krsna appears once every day of Brahmadeva. In every Dwapara(usuallu treta),The Sri Krsna who appears is an avatara like Parasurama,Varaha etc. But this time,Bhagavan Himself,with all His expansions descended.So the knowledge that was imparted to Arjuna was certainly nothing less if not anything more than the knowledge that was imparted to Ikshvaku.

What do you mean ? We are cut into pieces from the Whole,Sri Krsna ?? That is wrong. *** And yes,there are no bits and pieces.This is your speculation(sorry but its true.)

1) The devas also have the six diseases,Kama,lobha,etc. Even Indra,the king of heaven is JEALOUS.yes. So these demigods should not be worshipped. Why ? There is a simple answer. He is raso vai saha.Means He is Bliss.If a demigod himself in unsatisfied,how can he fulfiil your search for happines. Devas are in sattva. Humans in rajas and demons in tamas. The personalities in these three modes are always unhappy.What happiness willl you get in worshipping them ? The veda states,Rasa evam labdhva anandi bhavati. After attaining the Suprme Lord,the living entity achieves happiness/bliss. so we should worship One who is BEYOND the three modes of material nature.One who himself is not a beggar.Only a wealthy man can give you money.A beggar can only take you for a ride. So whom should we worship ? Sri Krsna.He is the One Supreme Lord who is described in the vedas as ANANDA/BLISS Himself. Devi bhagavatam states,"Sri KRsna is raso vai saha." So we should worship this rasa who is Sri Krsna. One question may arise,"Can we worship anyone who is beyond the three modes of nature ?" "Yes." Hari-guru.These two personalities are beyond material nature.You worship Them,you will attain Them.You will attain Their bliss. So we should worship these wealthy people.Hari and Guru. We should kindly reject worshipping the beggars.But showing disrespect is offensive. *** Sri Krsna,who is the basis of all forms of Godhead as well as the Nirguna Brahmn,expands Himself into many forms with corresponding qualities,associates,names and abodes.He expands Himself into His greatest devotee,Lord Sadashiva.He expands Himself into a Personality with Unsurmountable splendor and Opulence,Viz Narayana. So all there expansions are verily Sri KRsna Himself.He NEVER becomes Less.In one particular form,He exhibits opulence while in the other ,He displays pastimes which are enjoyable(rasik).So we should not consider that Sadashiva is lesser God or Visnu is a Lesser God. Personality REMAINS THE SAME.They are ALL VISNU TATTVA.

"It rains everywhere uniformly.But still,it is seen that one tree has thorns and the other tree has fragrant and beautiful flowers and fruits.What is this ?? This is due to the different seeds.This is no fault of the rain,nor does the rain cause one tree to have thorns and the other one,fruits."

Oh i forgot one very funny analogy of Sri Maharajji, "The river is flowing from the mountain to the sea.It is available to everyone.Now it depends on you,if you want to have a bath in it or you want to go and drown in it." Here,the river is the power supplied by the powerhouse/bhagavan. Everyone has this power to work his senses/mind/intelligence from bhagavan. You want to become pure,do bhakti.You want to go to hell,do all nonsense. It is YOUR will and not BHAGAVAN's.

Yes.Very good question. Sri Tulsidasa states,"Oh Rama,All the living entities from Brahma to the most insifnificant ant is under your control.You are the Supreme Controller of all that be." This is true.So now what ? "Ram bharose khaike raho khaat pe soye." There is a saying in India,"Leave it all on Rama." The devotees can raise one question,"Why should we suffer for His Pleasure ?? If it His will,why are we suffering." Sri Maharajji expalains this(obviously with quotes galore) very nicely : This is very wrong to think(that Bhagavan makes us do the karm). The vedas state that Bhagavan/Paramatma PROVIDES the ENERGY with which the Jeevatma can actually work his senses. The upanishads state this at so many places. In THIS way,is He,the Supreme Controller.He doesn't CONTROL control our actions. He provides the power.He is the power house and we are a bulb.If the Power house refused to supply power,you would be in darkness. Thus He is the Bharta/the provider and we are the bhrtya/provided. BUT the Jeevatma ALWAYS HAS HIS OWN WILL.Otherwise the jeevatma would be as good as a rock.The rock has no will.It is jada/dead. By experience,it is 'I' who chose to watch the movie. It is 'I' who chose to eat this. Bhagavan did not make me do those things.He simply provides the power to do it(impartially as the paramatma.) So we should not blame Sri Bhagavan.Instead we should praise Him for His mercy and cultivate attachment towards Him.

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The following is an excerpt from a class given by Srila Bhaktivedanta Narayana Gosvami Maharaja in Holland on July 3, 1997. “Sri Sanatana Gosvami has written that some Vaisnavas don’t observe Siva Caturdasi, the appearance day of Lord Siva or Sankara. In Hari Bhakti Vilasa he has written that Vaisnavas should honor Sankara, and they may observe that date. I observe that date. I know Sankara, because in his form of Bankandi Mahadeva in Vrndavana he was the friend of Sanatana Gosvami. He became Bankandi Mahadeva from Gopisvara. Do you know this history? When Sri Sanatana Gosvami became old, Sankara told him, “Now you are old. You should not come daily to see me, because you are coming from so very far away. Sanatana Gosvami replied, “I should come. I cannot change this habit.” Then Gopisvara Mahadeva said, “Then I’m going to come very near to you - as Bankandi Mahadeva.” He thus became Bankandi Mahadeva and resided very near the Madana Mohana Temple. Srila Sanatana Gosvami is also the very dear friend of Cakralesvara Mahadeva in Govardhana. He also used to be with Sankara in Kamyavan, where he is known as Kamesvara. He cannot be without Sankara. As Nandisvara, Sankara has become the mountain of Nandagaon. He wanted that all Krsna’s pastimes be performed on his back. Regarding Brahma, he has become Brahma-parvata in Varsana. Because he is so near to Radhika, he is therefore our Gurudeva. These are the tattvas. We should try to honor Sankara as a great Vaisnava and as Guru. Don’t dishonor him. We don’t worship him separately, but we can observe Siva Caturdasi and glorify him in relation to his relationship with Sri Krsna. We should offer pranama to him with prayers like: vrndavanavani-pate! Jaya soma soma maule sanaka-sanandana-sanatana-naradedya gopisvara! Vraja-vilasi-yugangri-padme prema prayaccha nirupadhi namo namaste “O gatekeeper of Vrndavana! O Soma, all glories to you! O you whose forehead is decorated with the moon, and who is worshipable by the sages headed by Sanaka, Sanandana, Sanatana and Narada! O Gopisvara, desiring that you bestow upon me that prema for the lotus feet of Sri Sri Radha-Madhava who perform joyous pastimes in Vraja-dhama, I offer obeisances unto you time and again.” Sankara is telling Sri Narada that Prahlada Maharaja is superior to him. Why? Because he is “tricky”. He does this only to give some encouragement to worldly persons. Actually, Prahlada cannot go to Vrndavana, but Sankara, as Gopisvara, resides there. As Hanuman, Sankara is always with Rama. As Bhima, he is with Krsna. When Hanuman and Bhima combine together in Kali-yuga, they become Madvacarya, our Sampradaya-guru. Thus, Lord Sankara serves in so many ways, and we should always honor him as our Guru. He is hundreds of thousands of times superior to Prahlada because he knows and meditates on asta-kaliya-lila. Parvati also meditates on asta-kaliya-lila. This is very secret, yet they both do it. Although Sankara is so much superior and more worshipful than Prahlada, still he says that Prahlada is superior. Why? There are some reasons which I will explain later.”

God doesn't CARE if you worship Him or No.He is purnkaam.Atmarama. BUT He is also an ocean of Compassion. Bhagavan and Mahatma: These two personalities really feel very sad to see the misery of the conditioned souls.They always proclaim,"Oh just come here and see how blissful this is.Just come to ShyamaShyam.You won't have to face misery AGAIN." Rk 'saw' God in a looter...this he said to signify the ''oneness'' that the jnanis describe. Otherwise,he was very very strict about the conduct of his devotees.He would scream at his devotees if they said,"I am BrahmI am Narayana". He said,"As long as you have a body,you are servant and He is master" Rk was not unethical.If you say he was,explain why.

The vedas state that there is ONLY one Tattva : Brahm. The same vedas state that there are Three Tattvas: Brahm,Jeeva and Maya. Both are correct ? How? The veda states that Jeevatma and Maya are the two saktis of BRahm. "Today the sun is so hot.". We actually mean that the rays of the Sun are very hot(more intense) today. The rays cannot be seperated from the sun,for without the sun,they cannot exist.However,the rays can NEVER act as the sun. Similarly,to cover this point,the Veda states that ther is only one tattva : Brahm. What about the Jeevatma and Maya ? Pooh ! they are Brahm's mere energies.When we (vedas) address Him(Brahm),we mean He and His infinitude of Energies. According to the context,the need never arose to identify Jeevatma and Maya.Brahm means He and His energies. By observation it is concluded that maya is not Brahm.Why,you might ask ? The vedas state that brahm is ananda/rasa.So maya cannot be brahm,since it is Not ananda/rasa.In maya,we only get dukha. In the same way Jeevatma is not brahm.Again you may ask why ? The vedanta states,"Jagadvyapar varrjam." Bhagavan and Bhagavan ALONE is responsible for the creation,maintainence and destruction of the sum total of creation.Even after liberation,the Jeevatma cannot perform these tasks.It is my challenge to the muktas to even create one single universe,enter it and then withdraw it. It is not possible. Varuna deva tells his son,Bhragu rsi,"Brahm is One from Whom the material creation is created,maintained and then destroyed." So all the veda richas(Aham Brahmasmi,Ta tvam asi,etc.) signifying the Jeevatma;s apparent indifference with Sri Krsna is merely to signify the indifference of Energy with Brahm.

No. Thinking about Sri Radha and Sri Krsna can never increase lust,unless and until you have established in your mind that They are Sat.chit.ananda. Obviously,you should not remember the above said leelas-the loving affairs. Otherwise,it is Not restricted. There are Almost nil restrictions in the path of Bhakti.Any of the Names,Leelas,Pastimes can be chanted at any place and time...in rememberance/smarana,there are no restrictions at all,for the goal is attachment of the mind to Sri Radha Krsna.

How can you say this after knowing what Vedanta,the summary of the Vedas,states ?? Anyways, Even Advaita...Jnyanis..they need the Mercy of God. Look at Ramakrishna,the Datta sampradaya...Gulawani maharaja...Kabeer,the celebrated jnyani..everyone of these cried for the mercy of God. You CANNOT attain even brahmjnyana without the mercy of Sri Krsna.

Sadashiva of Paravyoma is described in the Vayu Purana.

Sri KRsna's ego.mind,intelligence,senses and His karma indriya(hands,feet,etc.) are He Himself. Svecha pad prithah vapuh. - Srimad Bhagavatam. Due to limitation imposed by language,the above verse has to explained as,"Bhagavan Himself BECOMES His body." It's not so much as ego as it is SVARUPA. Svarupa means the personality Sri Krsna.He has His ego,Mind,Intelligence and senses.This is His Svarupa,inconcievable and unattainable except through His mercy.

Lord Shiva is situated in a position between the Jeeva and Brahm. However the vedas state that there are only THREE tattvas: Brahm,Jeeva and Maya. Since Shiva is neither Maya NOR Jeeva,He is sometimes referred to as Supreme Lord. However,the Sadashiva of Vaikuntha is Visnu tattva(Personality of Godhead.)

Since the theory,"Siva is jiva" is clearly rejected by the Vedanta,it is to be refused and discarded.

No,The ATMA is NOT Brahm. The Svetasvatara Upanishad CLEARLY states that Jeevatma is an energy/amsa of Brahm So also the Vedanta States,"Na anuh Atah shruteh Hriteken nah" Vedavyas clarifies the confusion in the above sutra: The atma is sometimes stated as "Infinite and Supreme" in the vedas but this 'atma' refers to paramatma.Jeevatma is Anu-Atomic. In the same Vedanta,Srila Vedavyasa states that the Jeevatma ALWAYS maintains it's atomic nature and Is NEVER blown to infinte proportions EVEN AFTER MOKSA/MUKTI/LIBERATION.He made 10 sutras regarding the atomic nature of Jeevatma.So Jeevatma IS NEVER BRAHM.

Yes,the same.The same one. I deny,Decry, and totally boycott such a philosophy(Rk's).But this doesn't mean that ill feelings should be nursed toward the person. To think that the most dark persons were freely singing Gaura Hari ! and Jaya Jagannatha ! under one roof,is possible only at the hands of a great personality.