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mahanila, Well said.

No need to go in to mathematics of life.Suffice to say no body has any right to take a life unless he/she is under threat.

Brief and Excellent.

U wonder about yourself, Munafiq sambya.

quote=Ancient Mariner]I like this post. It is like theist says, it is about a change of heart. Being an expert in religous literature and philosophy is no guarantee that the heart has been cleansed of its tyrannical tendencies. .

Chopra looks intelligent here. Pakistani presidents said many things.Musharraf said with a straight face that pakistani soldiers were not involved in kargil war even after Many soldiers were caughto in indian soil.And all those heavy armory on kargill hills had no way of appearing without logistic support from pakistani establishment. Manmohan singh starting a war?? hahahhahahahehehehehhuhuhuhuhu.

True, but the psychiatric concepts explain well,disturbed persons eating huge quantities of food.This certainly is not a saintly behavior but a disturbed Psyche. True, but that cannot be an excuse to attribute saintly behavior or god's consciousness to crazy doings Yes, and i have personal experience to agree to that assessment.Most of them are weird people. We are indeed distinct beings each carrying their own karma.And, i again say "crazy behaviour" cannot find shelter in the concept of "transcendent consciousness". There is a fine, but distinct line between delusions and god's consciousness.

Ohh Bija, You are a good teacher and can remain one if you can keep your emotions under control. Huge fonts doesn't appear to be a best way to put across a point

Bija, nice post explaining gita and some hindu thoughts.I happen to notice you have mentioned anandamayiMa(Referring to sambya). She appears to be a remarkable saintly lady. I went through her brief bio at http://www.om-guru.com/html/saints/anandamayi.html.. Which reads among other things. "Anandamayi would shed profuse tears, laugh for hours, and talk at tremendous speed in a Sanskrit-like language. Other unusual actions included rolling in the dust and dancing for long periods whirling like a leaf in the wind. She would also fast for long periods and at other times consume enough food for eight or nine people.. Sounds like involuntary emotional expression disorder (IEED). The bio also reads "she once passed a Muslim tomb. She immediately began to recite portions of the Quran, and to perform the Namaj ritual (Muslim prayers).. Well,bhismashelper was asking info on sanatan dharma is'nt he??

This is not his work.This is an excerpt from P.N. oak's book. Which professionals scrutinised this subject??? Hot air.One should at least read the article heading before jumping in with comments.Once again this is not Knapp's work. Stay on topic.The reference to mark et al is irrelevent. More hot air. Of course the court banned the petition without even examining the evidences he presented and his requests for reopening the sealed rooms Good.But ,I Look forward to reading Your highly logical and esteemed views.

This is not his work.This is an excerpt from P.N. oak's book. Which professionals scrutinised this subject??? Hot air.One should at least read the article heading before jumping in with comments.Once again this is not Knapp's work. Stay on topic.The reference to mark et al is irrelevent. More hot air. Of course the court banned the petition without even examining the evidences he presented and his requests for reopening the sealed rooms I Look forward to reading Your highly logical and esteemed views.

Good to know.Does Akshayapatra work along with "food for life" .

How?

You are at a wrong place buddy. This forum has become a play ground for confused(iskonites excluded) yet attention seeking hindus on one hand and muslims and pentecostals masquerading as hindus on the other hand.In short this place s...s Pm me, i will guide u to genuine people who had their roots firmly in Sanatana dharma. But if u want to become an iskonite this is the right place.(not this section, though)

Munafiq sambya is talking about spirituality.LOL. Idiotic moderator, where are you???

Ravi sekhar wrote "Rama(arya king not indian king) killed Ravana(indian king).So you are making pray to Rama.Now you can pray to Mughal and Britishers also for killing our own indian kings." "where is the #@ing moderator." How such nonsense was allowed to be posted here. Does this thread needs any reponse..

You Pmd me about your age . Your bitter and fiery response rubbishing the claims of Sri p.n. oak makes things suspicious and my suspicion was confirmed after your posts which were copy pasted from muslim sites. As demonstrated earlier in my posts interpretations of the hymns( posted straight from hate sites) was malicious and without any basis and also some hyms doesn't exist at all.

sambya , The question remains.Why did u copy rigvedic verses and the commentary(which i proved to be false) from muslim sites. Why?? I have enough experiences with people like u who practice al-taqiyya.

Bija, You can download quran 3 translations at http://www.gutenberg.org16955/16955.txt. This is a text file. For online reference to more translations-http://islamawakened.com/quran/ For Tafsir-Ibn-kathir you have to use a torrent application like utorrent. http://www.mininova.org/tor/1635173 or http://www.4shared.com/file/64909358/4837738d/Tafsir_Ibn_Kathir_all_10_volumes.html

That tafsir site u quoted is not authentic those commentaries are the opinions of those website owners. There are 3 eminent tafsir writers named Ibn kathir(http://www.qtafsir.com) Jalalayn and ibn Abbas(http://www.altafsir.com).Ibn Abbas is a compatriot of Muhammed. The starting page(for Jalalayn and Ibn abbas) is from (http://www.altafsir.com/Tafasir.asp?tMadhNo=0&tTafsirNo=0&tSoraNo=1&tAyahNo=1&tDisplay=no&LanguageID=2) Being adherent to some thing without having complete understanding is bit naive.Please check those authentic tafsirs i quoted(The sites are muslim sources) Btw: Did u read chapter 8 and 9 of holy quran. Try to understand who is a polytheist . Muslims wont be taking kindly to your remarks.As per quran it is blasphemous to regard muhammed as an avatar of any kind. As per islamic theology it is called Shirk refer to verse 9:30 regarding shirk at http://www.altafsir.com/ViewTranslations.asp?SoraNo=9&Ayah=30&Language=2&TranslationBook=7&Display=yes quote" v.30 : This statement is connected with the preceding verse, which speaks of the erring followers of earlier revelation. The charge of shirk (“the ascribing of divinity [or “divine qualities”] to aught beside God”) is levelled against both the Jews and the Christians Unquote..

Which translation and which commentary(tafsir) Likes and dislikes have nothing to do with understanding religions;). I dont like many things in Hinduism, but that doesn't stop me from exploring.

Dear Bija, Every spiritual person undergoes confusions and delusions in their life time.That cannot be a basis for anything. I posted a link for quran and i dont know who deleted it. pls take a look at <cite>www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/quran read the first two chapters and tell me what u learnt. </cite>Srila Prabhupada i dare to say didnt read in depth the other religions u quoted . What he says about other religions i will take with a pinch of salt and cross check.

No, U didnt offend me a bit on a personal level.In fact you didnt offend me at all on a personal basis. Yes, U dared to post verbatim from hindu hate sites. Not at all. You are entitled to your opinions but your objections to Sri P.N. Oak without going in to details was telling me something. I dont have any personal grudge against you.As i said above you have not offended me a bit on a personal basis. that is very funny.If u wanted to prove those people wrong u would have made ur response ready before posting those verses. That was your intention is very clear.But i proved above there is no incest involved in those hymns you copy pasted. What BOOk u are referring to????

Where did u prove??. U simply copy pasted the exact syntax from muslim hate sites and bloggers.Those people were pouring hate on hinduism saying that the said hymns meant incest. It took me just 2 hours to get those hymns in original and refute the nonsense. That is funny is it not.If you are a hindu u would have double checked those hymns before posting them. More funny. Ofcourse your vedic knowledge is derived from muslim hate sites. If your intention was not degrading hinduism, you would have studied and double checked the hymns before posting them.

Yeah just google the hymns he(sambya) posted. U will get exact syntax from muslim sites and muslim bloggers.I would not like to post the links here.Pm me if u have doubts.