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. Tell that to a practising muslim and if you are alive still come and post your experience.This is a challenge to you.

But u have condemned israel for their actions in self defence.No such condemnation from you regarding hamas

A SENIOR Hamas official said the Palestinian Islamist movement will continue to arm its militants in the war-battered Gaza Strip as well as on the West Bank. <!-- // END article intro ************************************** --> <!-- // article corpus ************************************** --> "We never failed to get arms into Gaza even during the (Israeli) war and under the bombardment," the Hamas representative in Beirut, Ossama Hamdan, told a rally in the Lebanese capital overnight. "We have the right to hold weapons. We will continue to get arms into Gaza and the West Bank ... Nobody should think that we will surrender to any measures," he said. ... "Warplanes, aircraft carriers and satellite technology will not be able to monitor the entry of weapons through Gaza's tunnels," Mr Hamdan said. http://www.news.com.au/story/0,27574,24963125-23109,00.html Israel was consistently maintaining that tunnels were used to get weapons and now hamas is confirming it.

Many including you are saying it; some explicitly. Btw tell me what other options israel have apart from crushing hamas?.What other side of coin you can possibly envisage?

. from the article :"International law forbids white phosphorus use against military targets within areas where civilians are concentrated, except when the targets are clearly separated and "all feasible precautions" are taken to avoid casualties among non-combatants." The military target(hamas) hides and operates in civilian areas.How it is possible for israel to isolate them without hurting civilian population??.

There are plenty of such things in torah/OT.But the jews and christians(An overwhelming majority of them) moved past torah/OT.If the jews of israel have to follow torah they should not be leaving any muslims alive in israel itself forget about palestine.

The american indians did their part.no need for obama to talk about indians/india or whatever to do with indians. Same question.Where did Bhavagad Gita fit in this report?

Pakistan is never involved in terrorism.ISI says mumbai attackers are not pakistanis...yawn..what else is new. Binladen is a creation of bush,at present he is taking rest in texas ranch.

The partner aspect refers to worshipping other god(s) besides Allah.The premuhammad arabians were worshipping other smaller gods besides Allah.As per quran christians are as much polytheists as hindus. The intention was explicit and there was no ambiguity there.

"The no son" thing refers to jesus christ.The verses you posted are from Qur'an, Chapter 112: Here are some other verses from quran. Qur'an 5:17 "Verily they are disbelievers and infidels who say, 'The Messiah, son of Mary, is God.'" Qur'an 5:72 "They are surely infidels who blaspheme and say: 'God is Christ, the Messiah, the son of Mary.' But the Messiah only said: 'O Children of Israel! Worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord.'" Qur'an 5:72 "...Lo! Whoever joins other gods with Allah or says He has a partner, Allah has forbidden Paradise, and the Hell Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help."<table width="100%" cellpadding="5" cellspacing="0"><tbody><tr class="row1" valign="top"><td class="source" nowrap="nowrap"> </td><td align="left"> </td> </tr> <tr class="row2" valign="top"> <td class="source" nowrap="nowrap"> </td><td> </td></tr></tbody></table>

May be you should read about "Battle of tours" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Tours. Also you may read about it at http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/023059.php quote" Prior to this, the Islamic conquerors, drunk with power and plunder, had, for one century been subjugating all peoples and territories standing in their western march—from Arabia to Morocco (al-Maghreb, the “furthest west”). In 711, the Muslims made their fateful crossing of the straits of Gibraltar, landing for the first time on European ground. Upon touching terra firma, the leader of the Muslims, Tariq bin Zayid, ordered all the boats used for the crossing burned, asserting “We have not come here to return. Either we conquer and establish ourselves here, or we perish.” Islam was there to stay. This famous Tariq anecdote—often reminisced by modern day jihadists—highlights the jihadist nature of the Umayyad caliphate (661-750), the superpower of its day. As most historians have acknowledged, the Umayyad caliphate was the “Jihadi-State” par excellence. Its very existence was closely tied to its conquests; its legitimacy as “viceroy” of Allah based on its jihadi expansion.

Quite true; and that applies to the real world.There is a dogged reluctance to study the basis for terrorism leave alone standing up against it. people who say terrorism is because of poverty are ignorant or unwilling to accept the fact that a sizeable percentage of terrorists come from well to do families. The thought that terrorism has it's roots in religion is an impossible and frightening thing for majority of people; so they try to brush these concerns under the carpet with the standard refrain that terrorists have no religion.

Yes, i said it is a waste of time discussing freaks to save the forum members from future posts based on some paranoid freak's views. No need to discuss/dissect the views of some wacko who has no proof but base his views on some conjectures and heresay. adhominem and wild attacks??? .I said the person is a paranoid freak based on his own statements.For example, this person said israel is devouring it's own citizens. He is an obvious jew and israel hater because he has nothing substantive to say on HAMAs and their views on destruction of israel.

yawn...yawn.. how many times i have to repeat henry's statement that he is no longer a jew.. http://www.savethemales.ca/270103.html quote I am a non-observant, non-self-hating Canadian Jew who believes in God and Christ's gospel of love.

New Delhi: The Dalai Lama, a lifelong champion of non-violence candidly stated that terrorism cannot be tackled by applying the principle of ahimsa because the minds of terrorists are closed. "It is difficult to deal with terrorism through non-violence," the Tibetan spiritual leader said delivering the Madhavrao Scindia Memorial Lecture here. He termed terrorism as the worst kind of violence which is not carried by a few mad people but by those who are very brilliant and educated. "They (terrorists) are very brilliant and educated...but a strong ill feeling is bred in them . Their minds are closed," the Dalai Lama said. He said the only way to tackle terrorism is through prevention. http://www.indianexpress.com/news/nonviolence-cannot-tackle-terrorism-dalai-l.../411980/ But Dalai lama didnt say who bred the "strong ill feeling .

did you read what i posted above? I am a non-observant, non-self-hating Canadian Jew who believes in God and Christ's gospel of love.

Not anymore.This is what he wrote at http://www.savethemales.ca/270103.html quote I am a non-observant, non-self-hating Canadian Jew who believes in God and Christ's gospel of love. My grandparents all died in the holocaust; my parents narrowly survived by passing as non-Jews. I lived in Israel in 1972-3 but left because Israelis seemed as materialistic as Canadians. Israel also struck me as a country that devoured its own people. unquote Clear is it not.It is a waste of time discussing freaks like Henry makow.The world is full of self hating(they wont admit it,though) ,paranoid people(he hates assertive women).

He has already provided proof; members.tripod.Apparently, the thread starter beleives what is written in blogs like members.tripod.com/ The "proof" is very convincing from his point of view.

True.i was referring to the basis for Hamas and other like minded terror organisations and also responding to narasinga.

Destroying idols and polytheists places of worship is the example set by muhammad.Btw christians are also deemed polytheists because of their worshipping jesus(son of god).There is explicit mention of this(about jesus worship) in quran

Perfect, indeed.

Hamas MP Fathi Hammad: We Used Women and Children as Human Shields http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1710.htm Who is to be blamed here for death of civilians israel or Hamas?. On the other hand hamas stated policy is to kill israeli citizens:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5454204.ece and phased destruction of the Jewish state: http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1229777020070312 " GAZA (Reuters) - The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas rejected on Monday criticism by al Qaeda's second-in-command and said it was still committed to Israel's destruction despite a power-sharing deal with the Fatah faction. "We will not betray promises we made to God to continue the path of Jihad and resistance until the liberation of Palestine, all of Palestine," Hamas said in a statement, in a clear reference to Israel as well as to the occupied West Bank." All the above material given in links are statements of Hamas, not opinions of some weirdo analysts

Hamas MP Fathi Hammad: We Used Women and Children as Human Shields http://www.memritv.org/clip/en/1710.htm Who is to be blamed here for death of civilians israel or Hamas?. On the other hand hamas stated policy is to kill israeli citizens:http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article5454204.ece and phased destruction of the Jewish state: http://www.reuters.com/article/worldNews/idUSL1229777020070312 " GAZA (Reuters) - The Palestinian Islamist group Hamas rejected on Monday criticism by al Qaeda's second-in-command and said it was still committed to Israel's destruction despite a power-sharing deal with the Fatah faction. "We will not betray promises we made to God to continue the path of Jihad and resistance until the liberation of Palestine, all of Palestine," Hamas said in a statement, in a clear reference to Israel as well as to the occupied West Bank." All the above material given in links are statements of Hamas, not opinions of some weirdo analysts

Hamas Charter http://www.mideastweb.org/hamas.htm The principles of the Hamas are stated in their Covenant or Charter, given in full below. Following are highlights. <small>"Israel will exist and will continue to exist until Islam will obliterate it, just as it obliterated others before it."</small> <small></small> <small>"The Islamic Resistance Movement believes that the land of Palestine is an Islamic Waqf consecrated for future Moslem generations until Judgement Day. It, or any part of it, should not be squandered: it, or any part of it, should not be given up. "</small> <small> </small> <small>"There is no solution for the Palestinian question except through Jihad. Initiatives, proposals and international conferences are all a waste of time and vain endeavors."</small> <small>"After Palestine, the Zionists aspire to expand from the Nile to the Euphrates. When they will have digested the region they overtook, they will aspire to further expansion, and so on. Their plan is embodied in the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion", and their present conduct is the best proof of what we are saying."</small>

Precise.