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Quote: <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 3ex; BORDER-TOP: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3ex; BORDER-LEFT: #666666 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 1px solid" bgColor=#e0e0e0>Originally Posted by bhaktajan Shazam, Sarge! If I supplied all good answers to your questions you still would not accept it, so I am not going to bother. You aren't looking for answers, you are looking for argument. The sad thing is that Sambya & Kaisersose thing WE are STUPID . . . now why is that? </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> <!-- END TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote --> kaisersose responded: Thanks for the question. I'll explain why. The number of reasons are obviously too many, so pardon me for mentioning only a few (in no specific order). 1) For opening threads titled "meaningless religions", "Mayavada is false", "Hinduism is not a religion", etc... in a general spiritual forum. 2) For not being able to grasp the simple fact that similar criticisms can and do render your own religion as "meaningless". 3) For not realizing that, there is absolutely no benefit in nit-picking on others by starting such dumb threads. 4) For making up stuff as you go along that Krishna does not accept eggs, etc., without evidence and failing to realize that you are kidding yourself more than anyone else. 5) For believing without evidence that the eskimo will be born as a seal in his next life. All these are reasons from this thread alone. Now imagine how long the list would be, if we were to begin inspecting other threads! Cheers :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Bhaktajan's response to kaisersose: Pardon my response and the wholly intended insult to your presence on these forums: "YOU DO NOT BELONG HERE!" I'm sure you have many good traits, but that is not the point --if you do have differing opinions --that would be welcomed and considered very interesting, but . . . But, your "contrarian" opinions do not arise from ordinary petty grevances. Your "contrarian" opinions are obtrusive and overbearing in there faux credibility. You are simply contradicting everything --and seeming to pass it off as 'intellectual' musings. You think that I, a bonefide Hare Krishna Chanting vegetarian Krishna Loving Bhagavad-gita reading Vaishnava servant devotee of devotee, since 1980, who is a sincere fallen fool, cannot recognise bull dung when you speak it? You think that I, after 29 years, do not know I have studied the BONEFIDE ways of Karma, reincarnation, religiosity, dharma, penance, Vedic scholarship, temple/ashram life, how to recognise a 'holy man' and a 'Holy movement' and the difference between that and the sensationalism of daily tabloid's propagandaising stool brain inspiried adverts? Go save your economy and leave work that is suitable to learned brains to do their thinking.

Learn Vaishnava Philosophy. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Absolute Truth = what you hold true in your case must also hold true in everyone else's case. Spend more time in japa, samkirtan . . . ARE YOU SO PROUD OF YOUR WORSHIP? BEHAVE LIKE A LEARNED MAN = DON'T JUST PONDER YOUR VEDIC KNOWLEDGE HERE DISRESPECTING OTHER GODS, GODDESSES AND PEOPLE. These demigods are worshiped mostly by those who are in the lowest categories of the mode of darkness or ignorance. Less intelligent people who have lost their spiritual sense take shelter of demigods for immediate fulfillment of material desires. There is no need to worship demigods of whatsoever category if one is serious about going back to Godhead. The Para-tattva or supreme being is Deva and all the lesser gods who derive power and authority from Vishnu are devas. Sambya's Response: meanigless whats the reason behing this concept ? where has it been written the difference between 'deva' and 'devas'? [Deva vs Deva(s)???] Do we use these as words of wisdom or merely, in our ego; to set ourselves apart from those who are as divine as we are. better ........ ??????? Your knowledge of Sanskrit is as flawed as your interpretation of Hindu "theology". Where do you draw your inane and ridiculous conclusions about Her devotees from? understand enough Sanskrit to realise that the so called purport is quite different from what Bhagavat Gita and Srimad Bhagavatham themselves say. Your narrow view of "Godhead" is not even acceptable to all vaishnava like Sri Vaishnava or followers of Sri Madhavacharya. So your "purport" is also not universally accepted. Feel free to believe what you believe in- but spare us your intolerance and prejudice. [but keep to yourself?] ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: "para-bhakti" I suppose that everyone knows what seek to achieve in my life time of devotion to my Vaishnava priciples/path/Rules/purpose --but I do not know what the Shivites & Shaktas think they seek to achieve in their life time of devotion to the object of devotion --service? Love? Eternity? Befriend big asura? WHAT do you seek from your devotions to Kali [other than befriending crazies that will protect you in the joint {prison house}?]

You are propagating the same thing that a mother would propagate to her children that she would not want to be a Hare Krishna Chanting vegetarian Krishna Loving Bhagavad-gita reading devotee. Ex-Hare Krishna with karmi children everywhere will love you.

Shazam, Sarge! If I supplied all good answers to your questions you still would not accept it, so I am not going to bother. You aren't looking for answers, you are looking for argument. The sad thing is that Sambya & Kaisersose thing WE are STUPID . . . now why is that?

It seems that 'everything pervades' the Universe.. What does this mean? Talk about monism. I guess your opinion is the same as my opinion but they are different? Maybe your dictionary spells all its words with only one letter --so as not to show favoritism toward any one letter? yyyyyyyyyyyyyyy, y

i was just wondering exactly how much relevence does truthfulness carry in the course of one's Banking Ventures. Ancient texts have glorified truthfulness as the highest virtue. We have the legends of people like Benjamin Franklin and George Washington. But in todays context is it really that easy ? Some people are inclined to belief that any negative act , when done for Financial Profit or propagating New Investment Schemes, doesn't amount to lie or misdeed . this is so because the ultimate motive was good . but such a belief raises more problems than it solves . for we find people turning inclined to commit some small misdeeds and pass it off in name of Business. for example if one preaches false glories of his Business Venture just to turn someone good custumer, wouldnt that amount to falsehood ? and is falsehood really a big obstacle in progressing Finanially ? what do you think ?

SAmya you are a FOOL. TRy and twist that, sister. Humble request to Sambya: Learn humilty!

Religion causes war? I DON'T THINK SO! This is the dumbest myth. Even the wars between the Devas and Asuras were not over religious differences. American Revolution, the American Civil war, WW1, WW2, Korean war, Vietnam war, Persian Gulf war, Iraq war, Afganistan war --were not over religious differences. Even the Islamo-nazis will acknowledge that there own designs on world domination would be worthless without the land & natural resources that come along with conquering and subjugating masses of other people. Security, Wealth, Territory and ego engrandisment are the causes of war. One will NOT witness that wars are fought by religous groups. It may be a banner to herald which team is which, but the generals of each side are looking for security or the wealth of the other.

A religion without meaning indicates the absolute feature of the goal of religion. Agreed? Eating, sleeping, mating & defending are absolute too.

Originally Posted by sambya "there can never be an universal denominator of what is meaning full and what not ." This is definitively False! There is universal denominators for EVERYTHING--not just in science and arithmatics. But, subjectively you can claim anything you'd like to --but, you still have to pay your taxes and die. Hey, some pay their taxes and then are executed. Yet, Liberty is allowed in countries that deem liberty a universal denominator.

Bhagavata-purana 6.16.22: <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p> </o:p> "The words and mind of the conditioned soul cannot approach the Supreme Personality of Godhead, for material names and forms are not applicable to the Lord, who is entirely spiritual, beyond the conception of gross and subtle forms. The impersonal Brahman is another of His forms. May He, by His pleasure, protect us."<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> PURPORT<o:p></o:p> The impersonal Brahman, which is the effulgence of the Lord, is described in this verse.<o:p></o:p>

"nothing here has anything to do with my personal beliefs" I agree! I've been saying that all along! Being a real wellwisher requires practice--So all my practice is accurate. It was my belief all along --such impersonal sentiments were a crying out for mercy from Vaishnavas! Good for you.

Brahman = nothing-ness; the void; the empty space in which Creation situated and thus occupies; the diametrical oppisite of Mater & Energy; the darkness within darkness described as indescribable in the first aphorisism of the Tao Te Ching by Lao Tsu; The entity that is described by the Buddha as Nirvana; The Void of the opening verses of the Bible's Book of Geneisis; That which was implied by Einstein's Theory of Relativity, E=mc2: 'Matter and energy cannot be seperated' --both of which exist within an empty field (of relativity). ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: What is being neglected is to relise that this void state is without qualities, etc etc etc --this state is blessed of its own accord! It's Pure, etc etc etc . . . :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Brahma, is the first progentitor and engineer born in this universe [this Universe is encased by a material covering and is emmited by MahaVishnu's Breathe, like so many bubbles --they are countless islands in an ocean of empty space; within which are even smaller microscopic environs for samasaric exploration life after life in all variety of eating/sleeping/mating/defending] ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Primate: It seems to be logically impossible for a part of the whole (humans) to know or comprehend the whole (nirguna Brahman). Nirguna Brahman, (the attributeless or formless) refers to the Supreme Reality which pervades the Universe. Saguna Brahman refers to the Absolute with (knowable?) qualities. And according to Sankara, saguna Brahman and nirguna Brahman are basically the same. ............................................................................... But your terminology is miss-assigned: "Brahman" is "nir-guna"; it is "without-qualities" ["devoid of the 3-modes" --that throw all the aggregate elements, ie: earth, water, fire, air, either, etc into flux.] refers to an empty space that is absolute and thus --is omnipotent due to it's source and innate potential creative constutition. Saguna Brahman = Krishna --not to be confused with material energy. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Yes, All is the same. But, All is different from the 'source of Qualities' --a Supreme Personality of Personalism. Fear-not, O Ye Puffed-up auto-crats, you may pursue getting lost in the void at any speed your whims choose.

Originally Posted by Sensible _bloke Have you heard of stilling the mind and being awash with waves of bliss??? That is called Samadhi ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Whoa! This is Novice talk. We know what samadhi is. Sense control that yields 'satisfaction-in-all-regards-without misgivings-and-without-hankerings' = Samadhi. Your romance-novella understanding is not the case. Samadhi is acheived by constant cultivation of yoga. ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: The Nowhere-man ode: Dear Cloud in the Imagination of my waking-state-Ego-Mind-Bodily senses --Please make me better than others--so I may feel aloof and superior to other beings--and I promise to relinquish all desires when I get old & retire to a cave in the frigid himalayas where the communists cannot find me nor where fire wood can be found. Please? I'm man's best chance and may nothingness be upon you, or bust; yours truely pseudonym, Sensible _bloke

<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> Yes, in my experience, as a common educated person, Dialysis is infamous for: <o:p></o:p> "Once treatment is started, it never ends; Routine Dialysis Treatments will be an on-going event until death". <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Rinku, I have advised you in the other posting:<o:p></o:p> http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/health-wellbeing/451993-both-kidney-failed-suffering-diabetes-bp.html<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> So, see below how What I informed you of, is below affirmed, regarding the Organs' functions malfunctions being due to an absence of nutrition {min & Vit} that cause acidic body fluids that then cause a vicious spiral of ailments.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Being a good Putra/Putri requires self-education and therefore discipline/sacrifice of your time & energy.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::<o:p></o:p> Dialysis<o:p></o:p> From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia<o:p></o:p> In medicine, dialysis (from Greek "dialusis", meaning dissolution, "dia", meaning through, and "lusis", meaning loosening) is primarily used to provide an artificial replacement for lost kidney function (renal replacement therapy) due to renal failure. Dialysis may be used for very sick patients who have suddenly but temporarily, lost their kidney function (acute renal failure) or for quite stable patients who have permanently lost their kidney function (stage 5 chronic kidney disease). When healthy, the kidneys maintain the body's internal equilibrium of water and minerals (sodium, potassium, chloride, calcium, phosphorus, magnesium, sulfate) and the kidneys remove from the blood the daily metabolic load of fixed hydrogen ions. The kidneys also function as a part of the endocrine system producing erythropoietin and 1,25-dihydroxycholecalciferol (calcitriol). Dialysis is an imperfect treatment to replace kidney function because it does not correct the endocrine functions of the kidney. Dialysis treatments replace some of these functions through diffusion (waste removal) and ultrafiltration (fluid removal).<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Principle<o:p></o:p> Dialysis works on the principles of the diffusion of solutes and ultrafiltration of fluid across a semi-permeable membrane. Blood flows by one side of a semi-permeable membrane, and a dialysate or fluid flows by the opposite side. Smaller solutes and fluid pass through the membrane. The blood flows in one direction and the dialysate flows in the opposite. The counter-current flow of the blood and dialysate maximizes the concentration gradient of solutes between the blood and dialysate, which helps to remove more urea and creatinine from the blood. The concentrations of solutes (for example potassium, phosphorus, and urea) are undesirably high in the blood, but low or absent in the dialysis solution and constant replacement of the dialysate ensures that the concentration of undesired solutes is kept low on this side of the membrane. The dialysis solution has levels of minerals like potassium and calcium that are similar to their natural concentration in healthy blood. For another solute, bicarbonate, dialysis solution level is set at a slightly higher level than in normal blood, to encourage diffusion of bicarbonate into the blood, to act as a pH buffer to neutralise the metabolic acidosis that is often present in these patients. The levels of the components of dialysate are typically prescribed by a nephrologist according to the needs of the individual patient.<o:p></o:p> Types<o:p></o:p> There are two primary types of dialysis, hemodialysis and peritoneal dialysis, and a third investigational type, intestinal dialysis.<o:p></o:p> Hemodialysis<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In hemodialysis, the patient's blood is pumped through the blood compartment of a dialyzer, exposing it to a semipermeable membrane. The cleansed blood is then returned via the circuit back to the body. Ultrafiltration occurs by increasing the hydrostatic pressure across the dialyzer membrane. This usually is done by applying a negative pressure to the dialysate compartment of the dialyzer. This pressure gradient causes water and dissolved solutes to move from blood to dialysate, and allows the removal of several litres of excess fluid during a typical 3 to 5 hour treatment. In the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region>, hemodialysis treatments are typically given in a dialysis center three times per week (due in the <st1:country-region w:st="on">US</st1:country-region> to Medicare reimbursement rules), however, as of 2007 over 2,000 people in the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">US</st1:place></st1:country-region> are dialyzing at home more frequently for various treatment lengths.<SUP id=cite_ref-1>[2]</SUP> Studies have demonstrated the clinical benefits of dialyzing 5 to 7 times a week, for 6 to 8 hours. These frequent long treatments are often done at home, while sleeping but home dialysis is a flexible modality and schedules can be changed day to day, week to week. In general, studies have shown that both increased treatment length and frequency are clinically beneficial.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Hemodialysis-en.svg<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Peritoneal dialysis<o:p></o:p> Main article: Peritoneal dialysis<o:p></o:p> In peritoneal dialysis, a sterile solution containing minerals and glucose is run through a tube into the peritoneal cavity, the abdominal body cavity around the intestine, where the peritoneal membrane acts as a semipermeable membrane. The dialysate is left there for a period of time to remove waste products and water, and then it is drained out through the tube and discarded. This cycle or "exchange" is normally repeated 4-5 times during the day, (sometimes more often overnight with an automated system). Ultrafiltration occurs via osmosis; the dialysis solution used contains a high concentration of glucose, and the resulting osmotic pressure causes fluid to move from the blood into the dialysate. As a result, more fluid is drained than was instilled. Peritoneal dialysis is less efficient than hemodialysis, but because it is carried out for a longer period of time the net effect in terms of removal of waste products and of salt and water are similar to hemodialysis. Peritoneal dialysis is carried out at home by the patient and it requires motivation. Although support is helpful, it is not essential. It does free patients from the routine of having to go to a dialysis clinic on a fixed schedule multiple times per week, and it can be done while travelling with a minimum of specialized equipment. Because survival and quality of life are similar with both peritoneal and hemodialysis, the selection of modality by the patient should be dictated by the life style that each therapy offers.<o:p></o:p> [edit] Hemofiltration<o:p></o:p> Main article: Hemofiltration<o:p></o:p> Hemofiltration is a similar treatment to hemodialysis, but it makes use of a different principle. The blood is pumped through a dialyzer or "hemofilter" as in dialysis, but no dialysate is used. A pressure gradient is applied; as a result, water moves across the very permeable membrane rapidly, "dragging" along with it many dissolved substances, importantly ones with large molecular weights, which are cleared less well by hemodialysis. Salts and water lost from the blood during this process are replaced with a "substitution fluid" that is infused into the extracorporeal circuit during the treatment. Hemodiafiltration is a term used to describe several methods of combining hemodialysis and hemofiltration in one process.<o:p></o:p> Starting indications<o:p></o:p> The decision to initiate dialysis or hemofiltration in patients with renal failure can depend on several factors, which can be divided into acute or chronic indications.<o:p></o:p> Acute indications for dialysis/hemofiltration: <o:p></o:p> 1. Acute kidney injury, usually in situations where there is minimal urine output and when urine and blood tests suggest that urine output will not respond to increased fluid administration. The point in the course of AKI at which to start dialysis is controversial. <o:p></o:p> 2. Hyperkalemia, when severe and when combined with AKI. <o:p></o:p> 3. Fluid overload (which usually manifests as pulmonary edema) not expected to respond to treatment with diuretics <o:p></o:p> 4. Uremic serositis complications, such as uremic pericarditis <o:p></o:p> 5. Uremic encephalopathy <o:p></o:p> 6. Metabolic acidosis in situations where correction with sodium bicarbonate is impractical or may result in fluid overload. <o:p></o:p> 7. Acute poisoning with a dialysable drug, such as lithium, or aspirin <o:p></o:p> Chronic indications for dialysis: <o:p></o:p> 1. Symptomatic renal failure <o:p></o:p> 2. Low glomerular filtration rate (GFR) (RRT often recommended to commence at a GFR of less than 10-15 mls/min/1.73m<SUP>2</SUP>) <o:p></o:p> 3. Difficulty in medically controlling fluid overload, serum potassium, and/or serum phosphorus when the GFR is very low <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>

Have you first tried, "Select" the supposed devanagari text and then "apply" the 'devanagari Font' that you have on your computer --it may correct its self if you apply it manually. The Font is called: Indevr 20 I have it on my computer because I have the Bhaktivedanta Folio in my computer. I tried to attach it here but it will not 'attach'.

But it is possible for a part of the whole to know the whole! Even Toto the dog met the wizard of OZ --but Toto was a dog with dog intelligence. The toilet cleaner can come to know the Chief Executive Officer. The criminal may come to know the Emperor--but these situations MUST be cultivated over time. The definition of the verb-root of the word YOGA and similarly the word RELIGION is to re-link with Source. Labor-Unions are designed to level the playing field between the Industry Chiefs and the common day laborer. We the people find these truths to be self-evident . . . <!-- / message -->

Ghostface, There are 'vedantists' here who state that THEY do not accept Brahma-samhita nor the puranas etc --so the discussion requires some savvy-ness to change their hearts.

Originally Posted by Primate post #17: "But 'description' is not 'knowledge'.." Bhaktajan: I do not see, intellectually, the point your are attempting to describe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Bhaktajan, In Response to Post #14 by Primate: I agree. Bread-making is a term that applies to a very profitable science. We 'know' something if it is understood at some level and if it can be tested in reproducible scientific experiments [for example: Bread-making]. Thus knowledge can be found on the internet. However, we cannot know how to make Bread in this sense. Although Bread-making may be known to us, and do scientific profitable experiments with us, we don't know Bread-making. It appears to be logically impossible for a part of thewhole [Loaf of Bread] to know the how to bake it self .. <!-- / message -->

It is possible to describe BRAHMAN! Godhead, the Almighty God the Father in His Transcendental-to-this manifest-Material-Creation, The Kingdom of God, outside the material world --is fully described, delineated, revealed and illustrated in the Vedas --is a trinity that encompasses all aspects of creation. Beyond these three catagogies of creation exist no other person/place nor things. These three aspects of God include all: 1 - BRAHMAN = God's omnipresence as "the void/space/empty field". 2 - PARAM-ATMA = God localised as the nucleus of every atom, cognisant or inanimate, in creation; aka, the uniquely individual, indivisible, unsoluble, eternal/cognisant/blissfull [vector-point] known as the SOUL of a living entity, ie: 1 of 8,400,000 species, each which are in possession of their unique address of individuality [a vector-point --Our absolute identity is the ipso-facto birthright of our existance --it like a Serial number of our Right-to-exist. We exist therefore we cannot be denied our individuality]. 3 - BHAGAVAN = The Personage of God that must be revealed by our Mother Vedas [bestowed knowledge by way of an unbroken succession of those in-the-know].

The culture of empiric philosophy helps one realize the impersonal brahmajyoti, which is the glaring effulgence of the transcendental body of Lord Çré Kåñëa. <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> That the brahmajyoti is Kåñëa’s effulgence is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gétä (14.27) as well as the Brahma-saàhitä (5.40):<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “In the millions and millions of universes there are innumerable planets, and each and every one of them is different from the others by its cosmic constitution. All of these planets are situated in a corner of the brahmajyoti. This brahmajyoti is but the personal rays of the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Govinda, whom I worship.” <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This mantra from the Brahma-saàhitä is spoken from the platform of factual realization of the Absolute Truth, and the çruti-mantra of Çré Éçopaniñad under discussion confirms this mantra as a process of realization. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This Éçopaniñad mantra is a simple prayer to the Lord to remove the brahmajyoti so that one can see His real face. This brahmajyoti effulgence is described in detail in several mantras of the Muëòaka Upaniñad (2.2.10–12):<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “In the spiritual realm, beyond the material covering, is the unlimited Brahman effulgence, which is free from material contamination. That effulgent white light is understood by transcendentalists to be the light of all lights. In that realm there is no need of sunshine, moonshine, fire or electricity for illumination. Indeed, whatever illumination appears in the material world is only a reflection of that supreme illumination. That Brahman is in front and in back, in the north, south, east and west, and also overhead and below. In other words, that supreme Brahman effulgence spreads throughout both the material and spiritual skies.”<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Perfect knowledge means knowing Kåñëa as the root of this Brahman effulgence. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This knowledge can be gained from such scriptures as Çrémad-Bhägavatam, which perfectly elaborates the science of Kåñëa. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In Çrémad-Bhägavatam, the author, Çréla Vyäsadeva, has established that one will describe the Supreme Truth as Brahman, Paramätmä or Bhagavän according to one’s realization of Him. Çréla Vyäsadeva never states that the Supreme Truth is a jéva, an ordinary living entity. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The living entity should never be considered the all-powerful Supreme Truth. If he were the Supreme, he would not need to pray to the Lord to remove His dazzling cover so that the living entity could see His real face.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The conclusion is that one who has no knowledge of the potencies of the Supreme Truth will realize the impersonal Brahman. Similarly, when one realizes the material potencies of the Lord but has little or no information of the spiritual potencies, he attains Paramätmä realization. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Thus both Brahman and Paramätmä realization of the Absolute Truth are partial realizations. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> However, when one realizes the Supreme Personality of Godhead, Çré Kåñëa, in full potency after the removal of the hiraëmaya-pätra, one realizes väsudevaù sarvam iti: Lord Çré Kåñëa, who is known as Väsudeva, is everything—Brahman, Paramätmä and Bhagavän. He is Bhagavän, the root, and Brahman and Paramätmä are His branches. <o:p> </o:p> In the Bhagavad-gétä (6.46–47) there is a comparative analysis of the three types of transcendentalists:<o:p></o:p> the worshipers of the impersonal Brahman (jïänés), <o:p></o:p> the worshipers of the Paramätmä feature (yogés) and <o:p></o:p> the devotees of Lord Çré Kåñëa (bhaktas). <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> It is stated there that the jïänés, those who have cultivated Vedic knowledge, are better than ordinary fruitive workers, that the yogés are still greater than the jïänés, and that among all yogés, those who constantly serve the Lord with all their energies are the topmost. <o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> In summary, a philosopher is better than a laboring man, a mystic is superior to a philosopher, and of all the mystic yogés, he who follows bhakti-yoga, constantly engaging in the service of the Lord, is the highest. Çré Éçopaniñad directs us toward this perfection.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>

Thus the Lord is always engaged in transcendental loving activities with His spiritual associates in the various relationships of:<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> çänta (neutrality), <o:p></o:p> däsya (servitorship), <o:p></o:p> sakhya (friendship), <o:p></o:p> vätsalya (parental affection) and <o:p></o:p> mädhurya (conjugal love).<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Since it is said that Lord Kåñëa never leaves Våndävana-dhäma, one may ask how He manages the affairs of the creation. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This is answered in the Bhagavad-gétä (13.14–18): The Lord pervades the entire material creation by His plenary part known as the Paramätmä, or Supersoul. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Although the Lord personally has nothing to do with material creation, maintenance and destruction, He causes all these things to be done by His plenary expansion, the Paramätmä. Every living entity is known as ätmä, soul, and the principal ätmä who controls them all is Paramätmä, the Supersoul.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This system of God realization is a great science. The materialistic säìkhya-yogés can only analyze and meditate on the twenty-four factors of the material creation, for they have very little information of the puruña, the Lord. And the impersonal transcendentalists are simply bewildered by the glaring effulgence of the brahmajyoti. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> If one wants to see the Absolute Truth in full, one has to penetrate beyond the twenty-four material elements and the glaring effulgence as well. Çré Éçopaniñad points toward this direction, praying for the removal of the hiraëmaya-pätra, the dazzling covering of the Lord. Unless this covering is removed so one can perceive the real face of the Personality of Godhead, factual realization of the Absolute Truth can never be achieved.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The Paramätmä feature of the Personality of Godhead is one of three plenary expansions, or viñëu-tattvas, collectively known as the puruña-avatäras. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> One of these viñëu-tattvas who is within the universe is known as Kñérodakaçäyé Viñëu. <o:p></o:p> He is the Viñëu among the three principal deities—Brahmä, Viñëu and Çiva—and He is the all-pervading Paramätmä in each and every individual living entity. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The second viñëu-tattva within the universe is Garbhodakaçäyé Viñëu, the collective Supersoul of all living entities. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Beyond these two is Käraëodakaçäyé Viñëu, who lies in the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-comCausal </ST1:POcean</st1:place>. He is the creator of all universes. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The yoga system teaches the serious student to meet the viñëu-tattvas after going beyond the twenty-four material elements of the cosmic creation. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>

Isopanishad 15<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> "O my Lord, sustainer of all that lives, Your real face is covered by Your dazzling effulgence. Kindly remove that covering and exhibit Yourself to Your pure devotee."<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> PURPORT<o:p></o:p> In the Bhagavad-gétä (14.27), the Lord explains His personal rays (brahmajyoti), the dazzling effulgence of His personal form, in this way:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “I am the basis of the impersonal Brahman, which is immortal, imperishable and eternal and is the constitutional position of ultimate happiness.” <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Brahman, Paramätmä and Bhagavän are three aspects of the same Absolute Truth. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Brahman is the aspect most easily perceived by the beginner; <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Paramätmä, the Supersoul, is realized by those who have further progressed; and <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Bhagavän realization is the ultimate realization of the Absolute Truth. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> This is confirmed in the Bhagavad-gétä (7.7), where Lord Kåñëa says that He is the ultimate concept of the Absolute Truth: mattaù parataraà nänyat. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Therefore Kåñëa is the source of the brahmajyoti as well as the all-pervading Paramätmä. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Later in the Bhagavad-gétä (10.42) Kåñëa further explains:<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “But what need is there, Arjuna, for all this detailed knowledge? With a single fragment of Myself I pervade and support this entire universe.” <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Thus by His one plenary expansion, the all-pervading Paramätmä, the Lord maintains the complete material cosmic creation. He also maintains all manifestations in the spiritual world. Therefore in this çruti-mantra of Çré Éçopaniñad, the Lord is addressed as püñan, the ultimate maintainer.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> The Personality of Godhead, Çré Kåñëa, is always filled with transcendental bliss (änanda-mayo ’bhyäsät). When He was present at Våndävana in India five thousand years ago, He always remained in transcendental bliss, even from the beginning of His childhood pastimes. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> In His village of Våndävana He enjoyed Himself with His mother, brother and friends, and when He played the role of a naughty butter thief, all His associates enjoyed celestial bliss by His stealing. The Lord’s fame as a butter thief is not reproachable, for by stealing butter the Lord gave pleasure to His pure devotees. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Everything the Lord did in Våndävana was for the pleasure of His associates there. The Lord created these pastimes to attract the dry speculators and the acrobats of the so-called haöha-yoga system who wish to find the Absolute Truth.<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Of the childhood play between the Lord and His playmates, the cowherd boys, Çukadeva Gosvämé says in Çrémad-Bhägavatam (10.12.11):<o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> “The Personality of Godhead, who is perceived as the impersonal, blissful Brahman by the jïänés, who is worshiped as the Supreme Lord by devotees in the mood of servitorship, and who is considered an ordinary human being by mundane people, played with the cowherd boys, who had attained their position after accumulating many pious activities.”<o:p></o:p>

Krishna says: — fix your mind upon Me 12.8 — follow bhakti-yoga 12.9 — try to work for Me 12.10 + renunciation 12.12 — give up all results & 12.11 — be self-situated 12.11 +meditation 12.12 — cultivate knowledge 12.12 ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Do the math! This is Vendanta summarised. The peace formula: Bg 2.66<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> One who is not connected with the Supreme [in Kåñëa consciousness] can have neither transcendental intelligence nor a steady mind, without which there is no possibility of peace. And how can there be any happiness without peace?<o:p></o:p> PURPORT<o:p></o:p> Unless one is in Kåñëa consciousness, there is no possibility of peace. So it is confirmed in the Fifth Chapter (5.29) that when one understands that Kåñëa is the only enjoyer of all the good results of sacrifice and penance, that He is the proprietor of all universal manifestations, and that He is the real friend of all living entities, then only can one have real peace. Therefore, if one is not in Kåñëa consciousness, there cannot be a final goal for the mind. Disturbance is due to want of an ultimate goal, and when one is certain that Kåñëa is the enjoyer, proprietor and friend of everyone and everything, then one can, with a steady mind, bring about peace. Therefore, one who is engaged without a relationship with Kåñëa is certainly always in distress and is without peace, however much he may make a show of peace and spiritual advancement in life. Kåñëa consciousness is a self-manifested peaceful condition which can be achieved only in relationship with Kåñëa.<o:p></o:p> <o:p> </o:p> ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::<o:p></o:p> Bg 5.29<o:p></o:p> bhoktäraà yajïa-tapasäà<o:p></o:p> sarva-loka-maheçvaram<o:p></o:p> suhådaà sarva-bhütänäà<o:p></o:p> jïätvä mäà çäntim åcchati<o:p></o:p> TRANSLATION<o:p></o:p> A person in full consciousness of Me, knowing Me to be the ultimate beneficiary of all sacrifices and austerities, the Supreme Lord of all planets and demigods, and the benefactor and well-wisher of all living entities, attains peace from the pangs of material miseries.<o:p></o:p>

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