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Amar chitra katha! We all love you!

Yo, Check this out my man! I once had sweets from a sweets shop --I spit them out! My preference is for ONLY mandir-made sweets [foil or no foil]. Thank you God . . . really . . . thanks.

Now Sir P, Try Teaching that to primary & secondary students, then woman, then laborers & then intellegent conceited people --and then get back to us with your success rate update(s).

to define a group on the basis of their country and religion . it had nothing to do with meat eating or behaviourial practices whatsoever . there have never been a situation where a non practicing hindu is termed as or reduced to the level of mlechhas . a caste hindu could socialise with a non practising hindu ( alcoholic or meat eater ) whithout the fear of being deserted in the society. ............................................. except for the un-touchables: ie: fish-mongers, creamation worker; leather-tanners and . . . ......................................... In the west we all invite prisoners & to dinner? ---Opps, Well we do employer illegal migrants to cook our meals!

Oy Vey! Sambhya's [un-deserved] chasticement of you: http://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/devi-mandir/452402-devi-bhagwat-mayavi.html#post1135214

Originally Posted by suchandra The worm shows its teeth. Well that's your sentimental belief, you simply present your biased opinion. Therefore if you like it or not you have to accept that others do the same. .............................................................. WHAT??????????????????????????????????????? chandu, you got a good point!

Boys, Boys! Can't we just get along --and focus on a mutual threat? Check it out: http://shoebat.com/ Walid Shoebat (Arabic: وليد شويبات‎) is an American citizen, born to a Palestinian father and American mother, is a former PLO terrorist,<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-luyken_0-0>[1]</SUP> although some speculation has been raised about his terrorist past by various sources.<SUP class=reference id=cite_ref-speakerneil_1-0>[2]</SUP> Shoebat came to public attention by becoming an ardent critic of radical Islam and supporter of Israel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walid_Shoebat No one (Arab or Jew) has a "right of return". Jews who fled Arab persecution from 1948 to 1956 should have no right of return to Arab lands, and Arabs who ran away in 1948 and 1967 should have no right of return either. This should end all argument. Yet the Jews accept this judgment, while the Arabs reject EVERYTHING. - Walid Shoebat

You Mean Im Being Sarcastic? No. By 'Ironic' --I'm referring to Sambya's accusation made to you [on other threads] that you do know what you are talking about; but you might be hiding it by posing questions that seem to come from a person who is not already expert. It was a refernce to Sambhya's [un-deserved] chasticement of you. You do remember which post(s) Sambya scolded you?

oh thank you dont waste your mind explaining to me i just dont unerstand what you want to say <!-- / message -->That is "Ironic" coming from you! .............................................................. It is taught that Columbus to find a quick route to the 'Indies' --inorder to primarily acquire "Spices". It was called the Spice-Trade-Route. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_trade <!-- / message -->But now am I being taught that western civilisation was bereft of onions and garlic until it came in contact with India? I don't think so. It seems apparent that western civilisation was un-schooled in the science of first class cuisine.

Well thanks for the impetus to research: Yes, I was talking about the Greeks [garlic eaters] --but you last reply made think of all those Greek invaders along with Alexander The Great . . . :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Yavanas: Yavana was the name of one of the sons of Mahäräja Yayäti who was given the part of the world known as Turkey to rule. Therefore the Turks are Yavanas due to being descendants of Mahäräja Yavana. The Yavanas were therefore kñatriyas, and later on, by giving up the brahminical culture, they became mleccha-yavanas. Descriptions of the Yavanas are in the Mahäbhärata (Ädi-parva 85.34). Another prince called Turvasu was also known as Yavana, and his country was conquered by Sahadeva, one of the Päëòavas. The western Yavana joined with Duryodhana in the <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<st1:place w:st=" /><st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Battle</st1:place></st1:City> of Kurukñetra under the pressure of Karëa. It is also foretold that these Yavanas also would conquer <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>, and it proved to be true. .......................................................................................................................................... SB 4.27.24<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p> "Approaching the King of the Yavanas, Kälakanyä addressed him as a great hero, saying: My dear sir, you are the best of the untouchables. I am in love with you, and I want you as my husband. I know that no one is baffled if he makes friends with you."<o:p></o:p> PURPORT<o:p></o:p> The words yavanänäm åñabham refer to the King of the Yavanas. The Sanskrit words yavana and mleccha apply to those who do not follow the Vedic principles. According to the Vedic principles, one should rise early in the morning, take bath, chant Hare Kåñëa, offer maìgala-ärati to the Deities, study Vedic literature, take prasäda and engage in dressing and decorating the Deities. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> One must also collect money for the temple expenditures, or if one is a householder he must go to work in accordance with the prescribed duties of a brähmaëa, kñatriya, vaiçya or çüdra. In this way one should live a life of spiritual understanding, and this is the Vedic way of civilization. One who does not follow all these rules and regulations is called a yavana or mleccha. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> One should not mistakenly think that these words refer to certain classes of men in other countries. There is no question of limitation according to nationalism. Whether one lives in <st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region> or outside of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region></st1:place>, he is called a yavana or mleccha if he does not follow the Vedic principles. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> One who does not actually follow the hygienic principles prescribed in the Vedic rules and regulations will be subjected to many contagious diseases. Because the students in this Kåñëa consciousness movement are advised to follow the Vedic principles, they naturally become hygienic.Yavanas: Yavana was the name of one of the sons of Mahäräja Yayäti who was given the part of the world known as <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">Turkey</st1:country-region></st1:place> to rule. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Therefore the Turks are Yavanas due to being descendants of Mahäräja Yavana. The Yavanas were therefore kñatriyas, and later on, by giving up the brahminical culture, they became mleccha-yavanas. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> Descriptions of the Yavanas are in the Mahäbhärata (Ädi-parva 85.34). Another prince called Turvasu was also known as Yavana, and his country was conquered by Sahadeva, one of the Päëòavas. The western Yavana joined with Duryodhana in the Battle of Kurukñetra under the pressure of Karëa. It is also foretold that these Yavanas also would conquer <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>, and it proved to be true. <o:p></o:p> ........................................................... CC Madhya 18.213<o:p></o:p> "In this way Lord Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu performed His pastimes. Coming to the western part of <st1:place w:st="on"><st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region></st1:place>, He bestowed good fortune upon the yavanas and mlecchas."<o:p></o:p> PURPORT<o:p></o:p> The word yavana means “meat-eater.” Anyone from a meat-eating community is called a yavana. One who does not strictly observe the Vedic regulative principles is called a mleccha. These words do not refer to any particular man. Even if a person is born in a brahmaëa, ksatriya, vaisya or sudra family, he is a mleccha or yavana if he does not strictly follow the regulative principles or if he eats meat. .......................................................................................................... CC Antya 3.50<o:p></o:p> "My dear Thakura Haridasa, in this Age of Kali most people are bereft of Vedic culture, and therefore they are called yavanas. They are concerned only with killing cows and brahminical culture. In this way they all engage in sinful acts."<o:p></o:p> PURPORT<o:p></o:p> From this statement by Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu we can clearly understand that the word yavana does not refer only to a particular class of men. Anyone who is against the behavior of the Vedic principles is called a yavana. Such a yavana may be in <st1:country-region w:st="on">India</st1:country-region> or outside of <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">India</st1:place></st1:country-region>. As described here, the symptom of yavanas is that they are violent killers of cows and brahminical culture. We offer our prayers to the Lord by saying, namo brahmaëya-devaya go-brahmaëa-hitaya ca. The Lord is the maintainer of brahminical culture. His first concern is to see to the benefit of cows and brahmaëas. As soon as human civilization turns against brahminical culture and allows unrestricted killing of cows, we should understand that men are no longer under the control of the Vedic culture but are all yavanas and mlecchas. It is said that the <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> consciousness movement will be prominent within the next ten thousand years, but after that people will all become mlecchas and yavanas. Thus at the end of the yuga, <st1:place w:st="on">Krishna</st1:place> will appear as the Kalki avatara and kill them without consideration. ....................................................................... SB 9.16.33P: In Vedic literature there are names like mleccha and yavana. The mlecchas are understood to be those who do not follow the Vedic principles. In former days, the mlecchas were fewer, and Viçvämitra Muni cursed his sons to become mlecchas. But in the present age, Kali-yuga, there is no need of cursing, for people are automatically mlecchas. This is only the beginning of Kali-yuga, but at the end of Kali-yuga the entire population will consist of mlecchas because no one will follow the Vedic principles. At that time the incarnation Kalki will appear. Mleccha-nivaha-nidhane kalayasi kara-bälam. He will kill all the mlecchas indiscriminately with his sword. <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p> <o:p></o:p>

My Uncle would drink Beer and especially wine with his meal. Women who eat anything that smells like fish, onions and garlic --wont mind smelly men. Correct? When garbage is left for collection --it smells like onion and garlic [at least to me]. Have you ever tried this 'line' --to attract the attention of a pretty woman?: "Ah, you are so beautiful, and you smell like garlic!" Or is it the wrong order? "First cook with me something with garlic --and who cares if she & you both smell of garlic?" India is second to China? What do the Chinese possess that India has yet to achieve --in cuisine expertise? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Sant, do you not know the western significance of this question?: So Columbus was looking for onions and garlic? It is taught that Columbus to find a quick route to the 'Indies' --inorder to primarily acquire "Spices". It was called the Spice-Trade-Route. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spice_trade

So India is full of Yavana?

India is the secon largest producer of onions and garlic as per 2005 --maybe this is the legit faction [the 'front' cover] for illegit buisness bosses needing to launder cash from nefarious ventures from earnings mixed with opium resin? ........................................................... india is the secon largest producer of onions and garlic as per 2005; and have been used in the sub continent for thousands of years . . . So Columbus was looking for onions and garlic? Not Herbs, Spices and Salt?

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Ah, this reminds me: When the mazuza was hanging by one screw from the door jamb at my boss's office entry --I compained [though I'm not Jewish] that we will look like 'gavones' if we don't fix it straight away. So when I asked one 'rabbi-certified' co-worker he said 'you need the proper pray scroll and a true rabbi and the proper prayers' --well after waiting for some one to take care of it --I did it my self. [some people neglect their little-dharma-duties].

There are the diaries/memoirs of French & Portugeuese Catholic missionaries who would have definitely recorded such things. Such travel logs are often biased against 'noble-savages' and thus are scathing and derideing yet incidently record common daily dealings in unique literary records.

US General George Patton acknowledged that he intuited that he had lived past lives as a warrior . . . So as intimates of the Vedic schools --how shall we bring education to new cadettes, and also, to retired Generals who should be seeking solace, repose, and reconciliation? What would be the curriculum for a 'Finishing School' for Military Generals, CEOs, CFOs, MBAs, MDs, & Phds? Let us compile a prelimanary prerequisite working list of topic to teach/preach/inform/update our Ksatriya stewards. For example: You know a retired 4-Star Brigadier Military General, or, Admiral and if you had the invitation to lecture this General or Admiral --what topics would you deem neccessary? Remember: "Let us know the facts, then search to understand the cause" --Aristotle. Remember: What would Chanyaka advise? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: TBC.