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Wrong!! Open your narrow minded eyes!! Quote: <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 3ex; BORDER-TOP: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3ex; BORDER-LEFT: #666666 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 1px solid" bgColor=#e0e0e0>Originally Posted by srikanthdk71 Wow. What a thought. I think you are defending your stance of posting this rot in this forum. Are you a Christian Convert or what? You certainly seem like one of those who has recently embraced KC. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE><!-- END TEMPLATE: bbcode_quote --> I'll tell you again so it sinks in, the dogs may bark (both of you) but the Spiritual Caravan all over the world continues on. Obviously both of you are typical 'Hindus' with narrow mundane less intelligent minds who have no idea what it means to preach and understand the essence of the Vedas. Do both of you foolishly worship the demi-gods like most materially minded 'Hindus' do? Better to worship Krsna directly in the form of Lord Caitanya in this age through His bonafide represenative, even if your a Shivite You certainly have NO idea who His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is - grow up fools!! The world is going through big changes that small puffed-up intellects like yours cannot comprehend!! So Chant Hare Krsna, read Srimad Bhagavatam and Bhagavad Gita as it is and learn what your own tradition is really about and tell as many prople as you can and that neans, NOT just Indian Hindus!! Now I can't be more honest that that

The dogs may bark (you) but the Spiritual Caravan continues on. Obviously your a typical 'Hindu' with a narrow mundane stupied mind who has no idea what it means to preach, you certainly have NO idea who His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada is - grow up fool!!

Prabhupada wanted us to be part of society to influence society, not ignore society and hide in our Temples, farms and homes When we met two Prime Ministers, we gave them Bhagavad Gita and I realized to change society, you must somehow get to the leaders by trying When Prabhupada left India in 1965, most of his Godbrothers thought his trip would fail because the meat eating, drinking, gambling sexually adicted Americans would never take to Vedic Spiritual Culture The following comment reminds me of the pessimism experienced by Prabhupada when he went to America. <TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD style="BORDER-RIGHT: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-RIGHT: 3ex; BORDER-TOP: #666666 1px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 3ex; BORDER-LEFT: #666666 1px solid; BORDER-BOTTOM: #666666 1px solid" bgColor=#e0e0e0>Originally Posted by hindustani very few will agree to your point of view here or anywhere as far as this post remains in spiritual forum. </TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE> Frankly, why not somehow influence Obama with Krsna Consciousness

Historically, everyone involved in the Civil rights movement the the U.S. new that Ghandhi inspired Martin Luther King in America and that he was Hindhu, this indirectly helped Prabhupada Similarly, we are again experiences great changes. It's NOT the meat eating pro-obortionist Obama I'm on about, but rather the implications of cultural barriers coming futher down. We (in my case and what I believe in, Prabhupada's ISKCON) could be at the beginning of a mid-sixties style economic and cultural revolution again that leads to more openness, acceptance and ultimately more devotees from ALL nationalities. Again, it's NOT the meat eating pro-obortionist Obama I'm on about, nor his hero Martin Luther King, or his hero Mahatma Gandhi, but rather the implications of cultural barriers coming futher down. You have to have a sense of History to appreciate this

It's NOT Obama I'm on about, but rather the implications of cultural barriers coming futher down Your not understanding what is really going on that CAN give opportunity for a Spiritual awakening, NOT by Obama, but by the new cultural and religious openness going on arround him. Martin Luther King also was all those things you mentioned but it's what he did that was important that indirectly helped Prabhupada. You have to see the bigger picture outside our pioneering immature fanaticism. If Prabhupada came to America in the 30s, 40s, and 50s, no-one would of taken him seriously. Prabhupada came at the right time when America was going through big changes and they INDIRECTLY helped bring attention to his ISKCON Movement and further, even assisting to expand his ISKCON movement due to the new tolerance created by the Civil Rights Movement. Everyone involved in the Civil rights movement new that Ghandhi inspired Martin Luther King in America and that he was Hindhu, this indirectly helped Prabhupada Similarly, we are again experiences great changes. It's NOT the meat eating pro-obortionist Obama I'm on about, but rather the implications of cultural barriers coming futher down. We (in my case and what I believe in, Prabhupada's ISKCON) could be at the beginning of a mid-sixties style economic and cultural revolution again that leads to more openness, acceptance and ultimately more devotees from ALL nationalities. Again, it's NOT the meat eating pro-obortionist Obama I'm on about, nor his hero Martin Luther King, or his hero Mahatma Gandhi, but rather the implications of cultural barriers coming futher down.

<!-- / icon and title --><!-- message --> As per the doctors the brain stem haemorrhage recovery is a slow process, please keep praying intensely to Prabhupada and Krsna Latest update (05 Nov - report) By gopijana on Fri, 2008-10-24 18:29. Dr. Madhavananda prabhu will be giving the official report today in the afternoon at 1pm. Everyday we will get the report once from him unless if there is more than once he has to inform us. As soon as I get his report I will be forwarding it to you all. As per the doctors the brain stem haemorrhage recovery is a slow process. Health Update for HH Jayapataka Swami By HH BPSwami on Wed, 2008-11-05 12:00. Maharaja's rate of improvement is very slow. His blood pressure, blood sugar, platelets, etc. are stable. We have consulted other neurologists and surgeons in India, from Delhi, Bhubanesvara, Tirupati, Mumbai, Bangalore, etc. Everyone is of the same opinion: the situation is very critical

As per the doctors the brain stem haemorrhage recovery is a slow process, please keep praying intensely to Prabhupada and Krsna Latest update (05 Nov - report) By gopijana on Fri, 2008-10-24 18:29. Dr. Madhavananda prabhu will be giving the official report today in the afternoon at 1pm. Everyday we will get the report once from him unless if there is more than once he has to inform us. As soon as I get his report I will be forwarding it to you all. As per the doctors the brain stem haemorrhage recovery is a slow process. Health Update for HH Jayapataka Swami By HH BPSwami on Wed, 2008-11-05 12:00. Maharaja's rate of improvement is very slow. His blood pressure, blood sugar, platelets, etc. are stable. We have consulted other neurologists and surgeons in India, from Delhi, Bhubanesvara, Tirupati, Mumbai, Bangalore, etc. Everyone is of the same opinion: the situation is very critical

Historically this is very important because it shows how races and cultures can come together and see above the concept of race and colour Now can this progress on to religion and Spirituality? Unfortunately where I am, yes, we DO attract hundreds of people every week but the majority of society, who are Indian Hindus, still see 'KRSNA' as Indian and Hindu. Even the majority of Indian guests see KRSNA as their Hindu and Indian religion and hardly ever preach to the 'white Christian backgrond majorityy'. It shouldn't be that way because Krsna is for everyone regardless of race or colour. You should know that when Prabhupada came to America in 1965, the States were going through a Civil rights revolution. Coloured people all over America were standing up for their rights and Prabhupada, who was also coloured. benifited from this Cultural revolution. Obama. a black man elected as President, can lead to so many barriers being broken down, INCLUDING SPIRITUAL BARRIERS that say Krsna and His many manifestations are 'ONLY HINDU OR INDIAN' My point is Obama will be the President of the United States of America, yet his father comes fron Sudan - do you see my point? His achievement can HOPEFULLY lead to even higher breaks downs of relgious, spirtual and cultural differences in this global village we now live in, so that it is easier to see the Vedas for all the world and not just Indians and Hindus! You have to have a sense of History to appreciate this

Yes, I agree and I thought very carefully before posting this here. Let me explain. Historically this is very important because it shows how races and cultures can come together and see above the concept of race and colour Now can this progress on to religion and Spirituality? Unfortunately where I am, yes, we DO attract hundreds of people every week but the majority of society, who are Indian Hindus, still see 'KRSNA' as Indian and Hindu. Even the majority of Indian guests see KRSNA as their Hindu and Indian religion and hardly ever preach to the 'white Christian backgrond majorityy'. It shouldn't be that way because Krsna is for everyone regardless of race or colour. You should know that when Prabhupada came to America in 1965, the States were going through a Civil rights revolution. Coloured people all over America were standing up for their rights and Prabhupada, who was also coloured. benifited from this Cultural revolution. Obama. a black man elected as President, can lead to so many barriers being broken down, INCLUDING SPIRITUAL BARRIERS that say Krsna and His many manifestations are 'ONLY HINDU OR INDIAN' My point is Obama will be the President of the United States of America, yet his father comes fron Sudan - do you see my point? His achievement can HOPEFULLY lead to even higher breaks downs of relgious, spirtual and cultural differences in this global village we now live in, so that it is easier to see the Vedas for all the world and not just Indians and Hindus! You have to have a sense of History to appreciate this

ISKCON should send Baracka a Bhagavad-Gita as it is, that's what I personally did when Bob Hawk won the Priministership in Australia.

LATEST - Obama (D) - 335 votes wins in a landslide against McCain ® - 155 votes I was the manager of Public Relations for ISKCON in the 1980s in Australia and India, just my old journalist interest shinning through - ISKCON should send him a Bhagavad-Gita, that what I personally did when Bob Hawk won the Priministership in Australia.

LATEST - Obama (D) - 284 votes McCain ® - 144 votes The President of the U.S.A. Barack Hussein Obama II Barack Hussein Obama II born August 4, 1961) is the junior United States Senator from Illinois and president elect of the United States.[1] Obama is the first African-American to be nominated by a major American political party for president. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he became the first black person to serve as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving three terms in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70 percent of the vote. As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel. Obama announced his presidential campaign in February 2007, and was formally nominated at the 2008 Democratic National Convention with Delaware senator Joe Biden as his running mate.

LATEST - Obama (D) - 335 votes wins in a landslide against McCain ® - 155 votes The President of the U.S.A. Barack Hussein Obama II Barack Hussein Obama II born August 4, 1961) is the junior United States Senator from Illinois and president elect of the United States.[1] Obama is the first African-American to be nominated by a major American political party for president. A graduate of Columbia University and Harvard Law School, where he became the first black person to serve as president of the Harvard Law Review, Obama worked as a community organizer and practiced as a civil rights attorney before serving three terms in the Illinois Senate from 1997 to 2004. He taught constitutional law at the University of Chicago Law School from 1992 to 2004. Following an unsuccessful bid for a seat in the U.S. House of Representatives in 2000, he announced his campaign for the U.S. Senate in January 2003. After a primary victory in March 2004, Obama delivered the keynote address at the Democratic National Convention in July 2004. He was elected to the Senate in November 2004 with 70 percent of the vote. As a member of the Democratic minority in the 109th Congress, he helped create legislation to control conventional weapons and to promote greater public accountability in the use of federal funds. He also made official trips to Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and Africa. During the 110th Congress, he helped create legislation regarding lobbying and electoral fraud, climate change, nuclear terrorism, and care for returned U.S. military personnel. Obama announced his presidential campaign in February 2007, and was formally nominated at the 2008 Democratic National Convention with Delaware senator Joe Biden as his running mate.

LATEST - Obama (D) - 259 votes McCain ® - 130 votes (Includes the projected win for Obama of CA 270 is needed to be President Spiritually we are ALL (yes, you in ISKCON too) still are a barbaric, primative, selfish society. Spiritually we are all pioneers yet so weighed down materially, God help us all!!!!!

LATEST - Obama (D) - 259 votes McCain ® - 130 votes (Includes the projected win for Obama of CA 270 is needed to be President

Obama has won the U.S. election in a big landslide. Obama (D) - 195 votes McCain ® - 52 votes 270 electoral votes needed to win, 270 electoral votes needed to win. Will a black President of the U.S. HELP break down cultural and religious barriers - maybe this is a good thing for America and the World in this sense? <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->

Obama has won the U.S. election in a big landslide and I'm NOT joking. Obama (D) - 195 votes McCain ® - 52 votes 270 electoral votes needed to win, 270 electoral votes needed to win, This will help break down cultural barriers however Spiritually we are ALL (yes, you in ISKCON too) still are a barbaric, primative, selfish society The sterotypes eat your parrot CHAMILLION hearts out (K)

More messages from devotees Dear Prabhus and Matajis: The new Total is 8,022 You are growing up your efforts Daily Average is growing too More an More devotees are Joing us chanting Nrsimha Kavaca everyday Many devotees are chanting on daily basis and sending dalily reports, that´s the way The Love of our Guru Maharaja is all around Hare Krsna your servant Atmananda Das Pamho.AGTSP. I was amazed when I met one very nice Godbrother Nitai Daya Pr. from Bosnia who woke up yesterday 1 am to chant 108 Narayana Kavachas uninteruptedly for GM protection. Took him 9 hours. When GM got ill his intense chanting inspired me to also do something beyond my normal abilities. The other devotee is chanting 250 Narasimha Kavachas daily, one doing practically all day chanting. I personally am chanting mula mantras of Sudarshana, Narasimha and Varaha for GM protection summing up 20000 to 30000 daily. Takes me few hours. If anyone has free time chanting of extra gayatris, Gopal mantras, Narasimha mula mantras, etc. certainly will be very powerful. Some may be feeling more confortable to chant longer mantras- etc few verses or like kavachas, some more short like worship- mula mantras, or the ALL POWERFUL HOLY NAME. No limit to what we can do for GM as seva. Your servant Damana Krishna das

More messages from devotees Dear Prabhus and Matajis: The new Total is 8,022 You are growing up your efforts Daily Average is growing too More an More devotees are Joing us chanting Nrsimha Kavaca everyday Many devotees are chanting on daily basis and sending dalily reports, that´s the way The Love of our Guru Maharaja is all around Hare Krsna your servant Atmananda Das Pamho.AGTSP. I was amazed when I met one very nice Godbrother Nitai Daya Pr. from Bosnia who woke up yesterday 1 am to chant 108 Narayana Kavachas uninteruptedly for GM protection. Took him 9 hours. When GM got ill his intense chanting inspired me to also do something beyond my normal abilities. The other devotee is chanting 250 Narasimha Kavachas daily, one doing practically all day chanting. I personally am chanting mula mantras of Sudarshana, Narasimha and Varaha for GM protection summing up 20000 to 30000 daily. Takes me few hours. If anyone has free time chanting of extra gayatris, Gopal mantras, Narasimha mula mantras, etc. certainly will be very powerful. Some may be feeling more confortable to chant longer mantras- etc few verses or like kavachas, some more short like worship- mula mantras, or the ALL POWERFUL HOLY NAME. No limit to what we can do for GM as seva. Your servant Damana Krishna das

H. H. JAYAPATAKA MAHARAJ’S STATUS REPORT IS NOW STABLE, 04-Nov-08, afternoon Last update By Dr Madhavananda das, Director of Bhaktivedanta Hospital Maharaj’s consciousness has been stable and he responds to verbal commands by opening his eyes or by facial expression. This has been up and down and sometimes he is responsive and sometimes he is unresponsive. He has been moving his left hand, the other limbs are not moving and is a matter of concern. The neurologist Dr PP Ashok and the itensivist Dr Hegde are monitoring him closely. According to them things are taking their natural course and recovery is a lengthy process. Even though a decline in consciousness is observed since the last 3 days and Maharaj remains critical, and he is in a state where things may go wrong, there is no reason to believe that he will not recover. The prayers must go on and that is the only factor which will change the course of events. Overall it can be summarized that • Maharaj’s condition is critical but stable • There is no further deterioration • He still responds to commands but not as much as 4 days back. • His blood pressure and other parameters like blood sugar, potassium levels, platelets are stable. • Tomorrow they will again try to wean him from the ventilator. • The doctors from Bhaktivedanta Hospital are constantly in touch with the treating doctors. • Prayers must continue. (04-Nov-08, 09:00 a.m. report) Ratnavali dd: Jayapayaka Maharaja’s consciousness level is fluctuating. The whole day yesterday Maharaja was only in the sleeping state, no response until 6.15pm. At 6.15pm when a devotee was reading Caitanya Caritamrta he opened his eye and upon the instruction of the nurse when the devotee asked him to lift his left hand he slowly lifted but he couldn’t move his other limbs although he was trying. Soon after that Maharaja again went to the sleeping state. As per the doctor Maharaja’s general body conditions like BP, sugar level, pulse rate etc are stable except he has some chest pain. At 2.30 am there was another devotee who was reciting Caitanya Caritamrta to Maharaja saw him opening his eye for 10min without any movement of eyelids and also no other bodily movements. Like this there is fluctuation of consciousness level. The different doctors are going to meet today and later we will be sending it to you their report. Your humble servant, Ratnavali dd

H. H. JAYAPATAKA MAHARAJ’S STATUS REPORT IS NOW STABLE, 04-Nov-08, afternoon Last update By Dr Madhavananda das, Director of Bhaktivedanta Hospital Maharaj’s consciousness has been stable and he responds to verbal commands by opening his eyes or by facial expression. This has been up and down and sometimes he is responsive and sometimes he is unresponsive. He has been moving his left hand, the other limbs are not moving and is a matter of concern. The neurologist Dr PP Ashok and the itensivist Dr Hegde are monitoring him closely. According to them things are taking their natural course and recovery is a lengthy process. Even though a decline in consciousness is observed since the last 3 days and Maharaj remains critical, and he is in a state where things may go wrong, there is no reason to believe that he will not recover. The prayers must go on and that is the only factor which will change the course of events. Overall it can be summarized that • Maharaj’s condition is critical but stable • There is no further deterioration • He still responds to commands but not as much as 4 days back. • His blood pressure and other parameters like blood sugar, potassium levels, platelets are stable. • Tomorrow they will again try to wean him from the ventilator. • The doctors from Bhaktivedanta Hospital are constantly in touch with the treating doctors. • Prayers must continue. (04-Nov-08, 09:00 a.m. report) Ratnavali dd: Jayapayaka Maharaja’s consciousness level is fluctuating. The whole day yesterday Maharaja was only in the sleeping state, no response until 6.15pm. At 6.15pm when a devotee was reading Caitanya Caritamrta he opened his eye and upon the instruction of the nurse when the devotee asked him to lift his left hand he slowly lifted but he couldn’t move his other limbs although he was trying. Soon after that Maharaja again went to the sleeping state. As per the doctor Maharaja’s general body conditions like BP, sugar level, pulse rate etc are stable except he has some chest pain. At 2.30 am there was another devotee who was reciting Caitanya Caritamrta to Maharaja saw him opening his eye for 10min without any movement of eyelids and also no other bodily movements. Like this there is fluctuation of consciousness level. The different doctors are going to meet today and later we will be sending it to you their report. Your humble servant, Ratnavali dd

Yes, I Agree. The same with alcohol, prices are rising and soon even advertising of it will be banned Down Under and the age to concent put at 21 years of age (that already exists in most American States)

The Prime Minister of Australia is the head of government of the Commonwealth of Australia, holding office on commission from the Governor-General. The office of Prime Minister is, in practice, the most powerful political office in Australia. Despite being at the apex of executive government in the country, the Prime Minister is not mentioned in the Constitution of Australia and exists through an unwritten constitutional convention. Any fool can run for Prime Minister but needs to win a seat in the House of representatives first.Only once has a Prime Minister came from the Senate . Barring exceptional circumstances, the Prime Minister is always the leader of the political party however independants can still try but are never taken seriously by the public unless they are a member of the two major parties, the Labour Party or Liberal Party I compare the Labour with your Democrates And the Liberals with your Republicans So if you go by the Aussie trend, where the Labour Part won in a Landslide, your Republican candidate will loose the Presidental election also in a land slide to the Obama camp Did you know in 1959 Australia was jokingly refered to as the 51st State of your Union because everything here in mostly owned by U.S. Interest. even the military base IN Central Australia has over 500 Nuclear Weopns stored there . When I first went to the States, no offense, but Australia to me seemed a richer verion of the American dream. If you went to Sydney, Melbourne, Brisbane or the Gold Coast, it's no different than the States except there is little poverty. You have to go to out back Aboriginal communities to see that disgrace ANYWAY PRABHU. LETS NOT FORGET KRSNA BY TALING TOO MUCH OF THIS NONSENSE. VOTE FOR CAITANYA. One further point, if you go to vote here and write Krishna over the voying card as a protest against compusory voting, then that is automatically a vote for the sitting Government. All invalid votes are treated this way making all votes count regardles. In other words, a non vote is a vote for the sitting Government.

<!-- / icon and title --><!-- message --> "Dr Madhavananda prabhu is requesting us not to panic and just keep praying to Krishna positively. :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: :pray: Srila Jayapataka Maharaja is not an ordinary person. He is under the divine protection of Sri Gauranga Mahaprabhu. He is very dear to Srila Prabhupada and all the devotees. Let us all pray intensely for Guru Maharaja's recovery. If Krishna wants anything is possible. It is upon His sweet will". Your humble servant, Ratnavali dd <!-- / message --><!-- sig -->