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  1. “How to eliminate sins?’ ……….. is easy; be honest! Choose each action as if you were a part of all existence. Good; supports life to continue. Bad is ‘selfish’ and causes a loss to the common.

    Not living up to man’s rituals has damaged millions of children!


    Dear all,

    I am a great believer of god and always try to have devotional feelings by listening devotional songs, watching devotional movies etc.

    Them songs, movies and devotional activities created by mankind do not seem to be prefabrications of God’s work.

    The raising of the flowers and the nurturing of life seems precisely the nature of God. Such that; if God required the birds to say his name then perhaps the fish would too.


    But As a human being, I have some limitations mainly the control over senses. How much I prey god, i am unable to control my senses ( mainly anger )some times, he is not giving enough power to control.
    do you wet the bed when you sleep?


    Is it not a sin?
    No! But find the lesson, learn to listen to what is occurring to you and make the choice that fits the situation (be honest). Ie… perhaps take a bath and clean the sheets. Then after owning up to the fact of the uncontrollable potty mechanism; having the extra work to address the mess; it seems many learn to listen to their functioning and often begin to prepare each evening, by releasing the potty before sleep or even to awaken during the night, and get up and go.

    In each case, if the person (in the humble learning curve) is held responsible for the event in that before the day starts, they correct the mess; the training will often eliminate the ‘bed wetting.’


    Its really distressong me a lot.
    Why allow stress? Are you harming another, causing a ‘loss’ to another? Or is it guilt of not living up to the ideas created by people.

    That was the reason of the bed wetting analogy. You are who lives in your mess, not anyone else. (unless you are peeing in their bed)

    In that if you are aware that you are actually doing something of ill regard to others, then stop doing it.

    If you feel you are not living up to the rituals of the gang, don’t blame yourself. Ask yourself, is the act appropriate to God or the gang. Such that could you be contributing that time and energy for the good of life rather than the acceptance of the gang?

    Perhaps look up the term ‘praying’; it’s a state of mind, rather than ritualistic observance.

    So you could be in ‘prayer’ in every act of consciousness without the feelings you do not live up to the ideas created by man. The pain felt for not living up to the norms of the gang.


    Perhaps the anger is you seeking the gangs acceptance when you are already aware that it is not God who imposed the ruling of rituals.

    Perhaps you like many others are finding the acceptance of rituals a waste of time and it bugs you to have to follow the gang.

    Your acts within God’s realm can be measured by what your choices make. If you are already devoted and know life is what you do, then walk within the good of life rather than look within ritualistic beliefs of man. (be honest with yourself)


    Be ‘good’ in mind and action and feel God’s Love each moment of awareness.

  2. Peace and the ever lasting is to them of good choices.


    And to know that is heaven upon this life, this earth; now!


    Enjoy that whole of existence and find the Love of duty you are born with; devote your life to learn that which needs to be understood for you to be the best you can be. (a doctor, a teacher, a street sweaper; each give of their life to support the morrow)


    There must be something that calls your name and to be capable of the internet, you have access to what many never do; knowledge to learn and understand. So learn and do that which is good for life to continue.


    p/s ... what is the troubling item? Has it been answered?


    I am going through a phase where to whom should I trust
    the one in the mirror.


    use your mind to appreciate being alive, in that as soon as your eyes open, say thanks and then find what needs to be done 'today' and do what needs doing until tomorrow as you hope to awaken and have another chance.


    'if the bowl is dirty, wash it' (an old upanishad idea)



    n to whom not is the biggest question in my life. My mind is continously thing about the same things n that is why I can't make proper step todays my goal, then at this time what a person should do when the problem is emotional one.
    what is on your mind?


    is there something you do not have that is required for your life?


    and that is a loaded question such that are you in need of things, love, air, food.... what is your 'desire' that is removing the immediate appreciation for being alive?



    Please guide me what n how should I behave so the is doen't affect my peronality.
    think of yourself as a splash on the pond of existence. That each step makes a wave. If your steps combine with others, then the 'good' combinations will live beyond the simple splash. if the acts or steps taken are adverse, or taking from the other waves simply of self, then you are not supporting life, but becoming a loss to life.


    so think in items of choice but be absolutely honest with that person in the mirror; measure you actions;


    good: supports life to continue


    bad: loss to the common...


    so go out there and enjoy each moment and know, when you water the tree, feed the birds and assist another across the street, you are giving of your energy for the good of others (life) and you will live in them gifts (choices) forever upon this existence.


    make a child; teach them so that never will they feel unnatural to life!


    Namaste all,


    I have read condensed versions of most of the Mahapuranas. I can't afford the full versions,


    here is a place to download a bunch http://www.veda.harekrsna.cz/library/









    . Anyway, my question is, why do all the different Puranas have different stores of creation? What does this mean? Thanks for any help you can give.







    as time shares that before Srila not much was in english


    as well before Srila are many other teachers, throughout the world.


    The lesson means; knowledge evolves.


    And the future will do better than the past in UNDERSTANDING



    The pinnacle of this evolution is when mankind understands life, equally!


    Based from the contributions of God's children over the course of history.


    Not one sect is perfect. Humility of knowing this is the first step!


    Honor all of God's gifts. You will know within, the compassion given by God, which is pure and which is a little off the mark.


    Trust yourself to know Love and compassion over the self or acceptance; to be honest in that choice will reveal what is true!


    I am one of those people who tries to refute the "my god is supreme"





    To some people this verse is saying that no one "face of God" is supreme and so therefore Vishnu, Shiva, Ganesha, and so on are all equally the same and that a person can attain the ultimate goal by being devoted to any god.
    as God is all that exists, the flower (lotus) also shares the wisdom of God....


    ever notice, when at peace you may have a real question and the answer comes from something as simple as the breeze upon your face.


    God is all that exists; men/women put the words to God.



    "and so therefore anyone can attain the ultimate goal by worshiping any god heard of."
    because equality is born and choice is from the individuals experience. The honesty to know that, is when lessons become knowledge to appreciate



    Based on these passages, I can conclude now that if you worship Krishna (the Supreme Lord, or the ekam sat) then at the same time you are worshiping all other gods (or rather, demigods).
    as you can even learn from a car wreck.


    God (Krisna in some sects) is transcendant, such that the lessons from one mans God, are also the lessons another man shared across the world. Could be spelled differently, defined differently but the same conscious experience.


    This shares that if God is with mankind in all times, all countries and all things, then to combine the variety of God revelations of knowledge, then understanding God can be learned.


    This identification of the equality of mankind is what allow the barriers to be broken down.


    Seems you step right over them as if little ant hills. Peace to you


    Be certain; to Love God and all that is 'his' equally in each moment; then you already know Him, all that is left is to know life and then be capable of living for Him, like Him, Forever ONE with HIM! (supporting life to continue; doing good, in all actions)


    your association has given life to the words; find the desire fullfilled!


    Brahma is the First born Being in the Universe [he was born atop a lotus flower that sprung from the Naval of the sleeping Maha-Vishnu].


    is this where you read that idea from?




    sambhale vishnu yasaso


    grihe pradurbhavabamyaham


    sumatyam matari vibho


    kanyayam tvannidesatah




    caturbhir bhratribhirdeva


    karishyami kali-kshayam


    bhavanto bandhava devah




    (Kalki Purana 2.4-5)


    “Sri Hari said to the lotus-born Brahma, ‘At your request, I shall take birth on the earth in the home of the brahmana, Vishnu Yasa, from the womb of his wife, Sumati. I shall destroy Kali with My four brothers. O demigods! You should also take birth on your behalf and establish friendly relations with Me for the benefit of the inhabitants of heaven.’ ”




    i ask that because of this



    Although Vedavyasa was
    an incarnation
    of Lord Krishna H
    he was also
    within the purview of disciplic succession having been initiated by Narada Muni who was initiated by Brahma who was initiated by Vishnu
    . After writing the four Vedas, the 108 Puranas and the Brahma Sutras,
    Vedavyasa composed the Mahabharata for the benefit of the common man. But
    internal purpose and ultimate reason for doing so was to guide the attention to Lord Krishna. In Srimad Bhagavatam, Canto 3, chapter 5, verse 12 this is fully substantiated



    Sri Krishna Dvaipayana Vedavyasa Muni describes the holy biography and glories of Kalkideva in detail in his Kalki Purana.....









    Hare Krsna!


    Who is Lord Brahma?

    look up 'trimurti' for an idea from the old works



    is Krsna himself?
    identifying brahma as individual is a reduction of brahma to the limits of mind



    Does Lord Brahma make curses? and Krsna?
    as if needed


    remember; all that is, is of the total. (existence itself)


    Existence reveals the evolution of the 'collective conscious' returning to One; there are no isolations from All that is.


    The selfish isolations from existence show us kali yuga. As knowledge evolves, ignorance dies.


    Know brahma in each moment of experience; appreciate life.


    Know brahma by awareness; appreciate life.


    Brahma is the life of existence.


    (be thankful in honoring life)

  8. since we all can recognize the material is not the living but the energy upon mass is


    ie.... a physically dead body is the same mass, but the state of life (energy) is gone (bury the body)


    but is Krishna dead? We still talking about his energy, his contributions, what he left upon this material world; His contributions to existence live in us all.


    He lives in what He left for us all!


    That is what differentiates the living from the dead; by what they do, during the period of choice (material life)....


    this is true


    What is it that people are awaiting? (your opinion and in real world application)?



    To understand what makes them alive.


    In which the laws of God are the same laws of nature and the truth of existence become the truth of life enabling each to equally understand with 'absolute truth.'



    Every person in this world wants peace,love and happiness(primarily).

    These are the requirements of the soul which is more important than the requirements of body.

    In a sense; that the soul is constantly seeking but often the acceptance of beliefs ruins the mind from comprehending truth.


    This is based from trying to isolate the self from existence. ie... mass, energy, time and nature (God)



    When people lack these they end their life.
    as often many die never knowing what life is.


    but what is worse is to be alive and still not know what life is. Which then means, they do not understand how to live forever by their choice.


    it is the learned isolations created by beliefs that damage the mind from understanding the truth.


    Then what it is that is expected?
    Absolute truth.


    Soul consciousness:

    let us compare our mind to a racing horse.

    Mind is a higher level of energy than matter therefore mind is ideally designed to rule over body.

    Actually energy is quite dense as mass but let walk within your approach and find the lesson.



    Due to this lack of control the mind wanders here and there and has devloped habits of negative thinking.

    The mass is learning by associating within its environment and by being mislead, a negative 'idea' is defined to represent an experienced but if the mind understood the occurrance, then where did the 'negative' come from?


    1) a selfish isolation from reality

    2) the isolation is learned from another



    Our materialistic approach to life without quality,caring or right sensitivity creates lot of burden and pressure.


    perhaps if no incorrect knowledge is imposed to the mind, then appreciation of life becomes natural.


    With comprehending reality in 'absolute truth' allows each to understand the interaction of life and matter.


    Better not join any group....

    Or even better be an active helper to the different Groups without being a member to anyone of these.



    makes sense


    Equally we can all choose 'truth' over acceptance to be complacent among men. such to not know the facts, it is best to share that humility of unknowning, then suggest knowing and not have the truth.



    No group on the globe has the combined truth as the truth only operates ONE way.


    seek the light! Can't go wrong with that as then every group has something to share of 'the light.'


    Combining from each is how the truth reveals itself.


    God is within all that is and all colors of mankind; none are favored as all are equal. Pick up the pieces from each and know GOD.


    What is the perfect 'movement'? (choose) Honesty, compassion and universal Love.


    Be absolute in honest choice and you can't go (do) wrong! It is the gift each alive are capable of.



    Do you mean the minds of people are hollow with incorrect understanding?It represents the degradation of moral values,the original qualities of the soul and the supreme which is illustrated in the previous picture(eternal fountain).

    He is the only source who can charge the spiritual battery of the soul.

    just like we need food everyday for the body.

    Then what it is that is expected?

    What is it that people are awaiting? (your opinion and in real world application)

    Seems people are what fuels war?

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    Just like a drunk person has no control over his body anger blinds what you are doing at that moment.

    Does the knowledge of the last 60 years of ‘anger’ in the middle east share an actual truth behind what will begin WWIII? (the destruction described in the prophecies about how kali yuga ends)

    It seems when folk are willing to kill themselves with a belt on, that a threshold has been reached.


    Knowledge removes the hollowness of mind (not knowing the truth).

    Knowledge is power when you have true knowledge

    that ‘power’ has been removed from the heads of state/leadership/theologians and the selfish

    that knowledge is free to mankind………… perhaps why the truth cannot be purchased

    ‘them of choice, give of themselves to seek’ ever hear of the term bhakti…..(of choice, not chosen)


    We cannot control other people or circumstances the only thing we can control is what happens in our mind.

    makes sense but like gas prices, it seems a few run the show….. as such the immediate surroundings are of choice, but the global collective has become a beast; lines are in the soil/ the war is on the horizon

    The babies will have the light of the sun to grow once again.

    True .

    and the only thing that reveals what the sun shares is the light of ‘truth’

    “ the young will begin to teach the old”

    It’s an old prophecy that makes perfect sense; the old became complacent as kali yuga lives in chaos; the returning of truth combines mind with compassion equal to all mankind

    Knowledge enables Peace; equality of all mankind……………… by UNDERSTANDING!


    Yeah...these atheists are a pain.
    Who is an atheists? The people who believe God or the people who believe the words from men?


    seems your opinion is from men as you mention no reference from God




    Why cant they simply accept what they are told?
    By whom? Muhammad, Einstein, Zoroaster, Darwin, Jesus, Newton, Confucious, Hawking or perhaps the Buddha or Ted Haggard but let me guess, you have a man you like to learn from rather than the collective of God's 'creations'..........? ie...... who is doing the telling that is unequivocally equal to all mankind...... please do not say a man who walked the earth was blue or that Srila was the messiah



    Why do they use their brains instead, asking for evidence?
    because before a truly honest human being can convey truth, they must understand what they are saying or they are simply lying!



    I say, they should simply accept heaven, hell, Krishna and a flat earth without asking questions. Anyway, they are all going to hell for doubting.
    lying is for dying.....


    devotion to the truth over the beliefs of mankind are where the true can be known


    never stop inquiring, never give up that trust in God; all will be revealed!


    Om shanti,

    The world is like a bamboo shoot it looks attractive,good on the outside,but is hollow inside.

    Do you mean the minds of people are hollow with incorrect understanding?



    When there is a heavy breeze the first thing that catches fire in the forest is the bamboo.:smash:
    Seems people are what fuels war



    It's time to look inside to fill up the hollowness.


    Hence to soak up water is what offers life to the bamboo, such the same with knowledge for the soul.


    Knowledge removes the hollowness of mind (not knowing the truth).


    seems the 'absolute truth' nourishes our living future even if the fire must destroy the old forest, the babies will have the light of the sun to grow once again.


    Maybe we are at the beginning stages of a golden age within kali yuga, where there is a revealing of the servants of God, and an end to the reign of the 'controlling' demonic mentality?


    But the question is who will be the occupants of this world.

    seems only a few will accept before the fireworks


    Can it be the present day people.

    it is



    Definetly the supreme has to come to bring about world transformation :pray:

    just as he/she(soul has no gender)has said in bhagvadgita.

    He has already started this task through rajayoga meditation.

    perhaps closer to the practice, brahmacharya style



    This ..... given knowledge of world drama wheel,awareness of self and supreme...in any brahma kumaris centres worldwide free of cost(u cant fix a price to this knowledge).
    now you see why nothing is published.......... each publisher wants to be paid, contracts and the business of knowledge



    Do visit

    http://www.bkwsu.org//whereweare/center to know more.

    This institution has no gurus,no rituals.It's present in over 100 countries and has 8500 centres.Its a university where you can become (nar se narayan).




    Founder’s Visions


    Dada Lekhraj’s visions revealed a body of knowledge about the nature of the soul, of God and of time – concepts so simple in their expression but so profound in meaning that they awakened a powerful sense of recognition in those with whom the visions were shared.


    perhaps a visit is in the future

  16. The Lotus flower is used throughout history and within these last few days much has been learned.


    Areas covered come from Egypt to the Knights Templar


    Buddhism shares the combining of 8 symbols



    The Eight Auspicious Symbols (Ashtamangala in Sanskrit) are a group of lucky Buddhist symbols that appear on many Buddhist textiles, objects and paintings. Each symbol represents an aspect of Buddhist teaching and when they appear together, their powers are multiplied.

    The symbols derive from Indian iconography and have become especially popular in Tibetan Buddhism. Clink a link below for a full article and illustration of each Auspicious Symbol.


    1. Parasol (chattra) - royalty and spiritual power
    2. Golden Fishes (suvarnamatsya) - good fortune, fertility and salvation
    3. Treasure Vase (kalasha) - spiritual and material abundance
    4. Lotus (padma) - mental and spiritual purity
    5. Conch Shell (sankha) - the fame of Buddha's teachings
    6. Endless Knot (shrivasta) - infinite wisdom of the Buddha
    7. Victory Banner (dhvaja) - victory of the Buddha's teachings and wisdom over ignorance
    8. Wheel (dharmachakra) - the teachings of the Buddha
    1. as well Krisna holding the conch http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Padma_(attribute)
    the amount of material is quite vast



    According to another scholar, "in esoteric Buddhism, the heart of the beings is like an unopened lotus: when the virtues of the Buddha develop therein, the lotus blossoms; that is why the Buddha sits on a lotus bloom."


    or another



    The lotus in both Egypt and India symbolizes the union of the four elements; earth, air, fire, and water. The roots are in the earth, it grows in and by means of water, its leaves are nourished by air, and it blooms through the power of the sun's fire. The lotus is therefore the perfection of the fourfold order of the natural world. The growth of a new flower directly from the earth-bound original (inflorescent proliferation) may be interpreted as a symbol of transcendence as found in Indian philoshophy: a spiritual emergence of a higher world directly from our physical manifestation. It may also be interpreted, as in Egypt, as the exaltation of the essence quality of the lotus



    it seems like always, that each of mankinds diversities still return to pursuing that last chapter of knowledge and can be seen represented in most all forms of words and symbols and like always many of the diverse representations are pointing at a similar end purpose; the combining of mankind by the knowledge shared by a 'man' born to be true


    this last section is different but similar with the bhakti of Godhead




    <CENTER>Basic Practices (To liberate all beings) for Modern People of The Lotus Lineage</CENTER><CENTER></CENTER>

    Shamatha/Tranquility and Vipassina/Awakening


    Theraveda Text: Mindfulness in Plain English


    Tantric Text: Ancient Wisdom by Dujom Rinpoche





    <CENTER>Practicing After Having Received "Self-Nature" Empowerment of Lovestream</CENTER>


    Recapitulate Nature (Higher Self) Empowement or use the given technique to re-recognize.



    One reflects deeply on four topics: This precious human life, impermanence, cause and effect, and the insidious nature of samsara (the cycle of realms and suffering).

    Recognizing that there is no benefit in continuing in the old way, and great potential in following the teachings of the Buddha (Christ and Dao too). Esoterically they are pure. Exoterically even Buddhism is impure)

    Basically one rethinks one's life...feeling the strong desire to enter the path of freedom one continues with the Three Commitments.



    Makes the Three Commitments, to the buddha (your nature), the dharma (the way of liberation for everyone) and the sangha (all working on this path), all in order to ultimately benefit everybody.



    One reinforces the three commitments through our lineage of support.



    A prerequisite for the fast path is that you will need to be the type of person who is almost brutally honest





    food for thought as it seems to seek knowledge from the eyes of many, a unity can be observed


    So in a sense the combination shares that 'life' reveals the truth.


    that a 'life' is of a chain in which all of mankind is awaiting


    there is more but today working on the angular momentum of entangled energy between mass ('gravity' of the moon and earth association).....


    just combined that with Faraday's experiment of electromagnetism which shares how entangled energy between mass, provides the comprehension of what 'gravity' is


    simply doing what this 'i' does best; combining knowledge, defining phenomenon and adding to the book of knowledge,


    preparing for the flowering of truth!


    Om shanti,

    oh this is the age of RAGE.:mad2:

    as it seems you already recognize kali yuga and the divisions of mankind; ever brother against brother



    We continue to think in old ways inspite of presently having nuclear bombs.

    as the 'doomsday mare' can be likened to 'what' existing monster of the sea? What is the single most powerful weapon on this earth?




    puts a whole new meaning to ATV's



    It is said weapons came from the stomach of YADAVS which destroyed the entire race.:smash:

    not entirely


    perhaps a read on some Upanishads or at least a summary within the english language


    note the Adi B..


    then go down to Kalagni and the 'mare'




    the key is to notice how the old stories can be combined with today's world event but that is by choice to be fair rather than be complacent


    meaning we in that world now, rather than the ideas of a later event as this is the age of knowledge; the time of truth


    and that means the period of the nasties is really that close


    heck just look at the middle east; there are folk willing to die for their belief systems and what did you say....



    We continue to think in old ways inspite of presently having nuclear bombs.


    them the firecrakers of the old prophecies (raining fire upon the land)


    so if a man is walking around suggesting the truth exists and it is from the 'light of truth'


    then perhaps... we really that close!


    but be happy, as Peace comes from the ashes of the war.....




    do you guys think that we are at the end of kali yuga?




    the period of 'self' is based on the minds of man (consciousness) divided by being less than of understanding


    so if the knowledge to combine mankind exists, then each can be aware and 'self' fades for the 'purpose of life'


    all 'we the people' ever really have been awaiting is the truth


    and the truth removes the self as the priority to this experience of life, we each entertain.


    the truth combines the experience of life with the truth of reality both physically and spiritually


    nothing magical or supernatural about it, but the universal application is pure to all that exists.


    Knowledge is what unites and brings Peace, equally to mankind.


    Note that knowledge is the 'destroyer of ignorance' hence the One who yeilds that sword of knowledge is considered the Kalki; ending Kali Yuga.


    That sword is the knowledge of light. The missing link to combine all of mankind is the understanding of light, revealed by 'life' itself.




    Om shanti,

    Every deity is shown either with a lotus in the hand or sitting on a lotus flower .

    Why only lotus is shown not any other flower :confused:


    devotion to knowledge; the progression


    bhakti for/in contributions


    to contribute to mankind for the 'absolute truth'


    and to walk in all quests for this progression makes for quality 'feet'



    Hello everyone,

    <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags" /><st1:place>Om</st1:place> shanti.

    Let us think logically can god be omnipresent?


    In which to recognize God transcending time, then life exists throughout God’s universe.

    Such that since the beginning, there was God, there is life. Then to recognize the rules of what makes life exist, then God is recognized as the combining of the three making existence and life possible.

    Mass, energy, time; the trinity of what makes existence capable to experience and life itself.


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    just like if man was a monkey some time passed. The one who had the weird back and could stand up and carry their child, food and materials lived when perhaps a fire burned the trees down. Such the idea is, if all are equal and one stands up with something a little more beneficial for ‘life to continue’ than that ‘new’ gift from ‘existence’ often has greater potential for the good of the whole.

    So be it knowledge or compassionate understanding; the one who has the gift to benefit life is the progression to observe. The key is in how to observe the effect.

    Good: support life to continue

    Bad: loss to the common


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    many an ass have carried a heavy burden, honor what is provided as part of God in which sometimes a real ‘ass’ can provide much to carry the load of comprehension


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    So praise in all that can be done and appreciate life each moment such as you can even find the good lessons in a car wreck.





    And how does man + increased anger = monkey?



    that is easy; monkey is instinctive or simply always looking out for 'self'


    man is conscious have the ability of compassion (others over the self, first)


    A person of self is following their own selfish requisites; a regression!


    See hitle, stalin and a whole host of the leaders who had their own agenda.


    Not only are they considered 'beasts' within mankinds memories and history; but most have an 'extinct' line and only live in the 'hell' of their creations.


    We remember them as animals of selfishness. Kind of like demons of the known histories.


    So can man regress to a beast; absolutely.


    As without mankind, there would be no evil in existence.

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    If ever there was an application to the idea in Revelations;


    I was living in <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com%7Boption%7Dhttp://www.indiadivine.org/audarya/ /><st1:country-region><st1:place>Guatemala</st1:place></st1:country-region> up in the mountains back in 1994. Beautiful mountain range just south of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region>. I was living it on the rough and spending alot of time in solitude and thought (and youthful folly).<font color=" /><st1:country-region><st1:place>Guatemala</st1:place></st1:country-region> up in the mountains back in 1994. Beautiful mountain range just south of <st1:country-region><st1:place>Mexico</st1:place></st1:country-region>. I was living it on the rough and spending alot of time in solitude and thought (and youthful folly).

    This day I climbed up on a mountain ridge over-looking a picturesque valley. Blue skies with some cloud banks.

    I took a seat on the soft grass and entered prayer. My faith was very small back then. With all honesty and petition I cried out to God, 'Lord I do not know whether you (Lord Jesus) are real or not...did you walk this earth?'

    Straight away a cloud formation began to manifest in the sky, and within ten seconds it transformed into the face of Christ. Not a charming face, of no particular beauty...except for the eyes. His eyes were full of tears and weeping for the lost souls. Eyes of compassion.

    Then the cloud began to dissipate. That was a close encounter of the pure kind

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">so read another story

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    Revelation 1

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">1A revelation of Jesus Christ, that God gave to him, to shew to his servants what things it behoveth to come to pass quickly; and he did signify [it], having sent through his messenger to his servant John,

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">2who did testify the word of God, and the testimony of Jesus Christ, as many things also as he did see.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">3Happy is he who is reading, and those hearing, the words of the prophecy, and keeping the things written in it -- for the time is nigh!

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">4John to the seven assemblies that [are] in <st1:place>Asia</st1:place>: Grace to you, and peace, from Him who is, and who was, and who is coming, and from the Seven Spirits that are before His throne,

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">5and from Jesus Christ, the faithful witness, the first-born out of the dead, and the ruler of the kings of the earth; to him who did love us, and did bathe us from our sins in his blood,

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">6and did make us kings and priests to his God and Father, to him [is] the glory and the power to the ages of the ages! Amen.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">7Lo, he doth come with the clouds, and see him shall every eye, even those who did pierce him, and wail because of him shall all the tribes of the land. Yes! Amen!

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    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">On an India Devine site,

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Skippy, asking of Love and the clouds reveal (your) ‘rapture’…. And now, you are aware, and can see….. and aware of the meaning of ever lasting life

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Sound like Heaven too you? Welcome!

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">It is all about bringing knowledge (absolute truth); knowing the ‘beginning and ending’

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">And since each are from the original ‘light of life’…. So being of the first light, is not so esoteric any more; we are all One; all that is.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Seems with an attitude of the west; kalki is the warrior shoes that makes the best sense; the ‘feet’ to stomp out ignorance forever.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Now go and share. Copy the ‘good news’ on this site and Blog up a storm folks!

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">Live in your contributions; share life to each person you can.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">No attention for me, just for the truth! You have enough now for ever lasting life.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">When the war starts, I will still be here; have a book to finish. The ‘book of life,’ Understanding; the last chapter, (apocalypse/the revealing) for Peace!

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">"Each particle that awakens contributes in service to the whole."

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">On this site, you will find how much of the words shared will now combine.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">From the birth and location, to the commitment for the truth; it’s that promise written throughout time.

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    20 The hills bring him their produce,

    and all the wild animals play nearby.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">21 Under the lotus plants he lies,

    hidden among the reeds in the marsh.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">22 The lotuses conceal him in their shadow;

    the poplars by the stream surround him.

    <FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">23 When the river rages, he is not alarmed;

    he is secure, though the Jordan should surge against his mouth.

    <FONT face="Times New Roman"><FONT size=3>24 Can anyone capture him by the eyes,<FONT size=3><FONT face="Times New Roman">

    or trap him and pierce his nose?

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    <FONT face="Times New Roman">Kind of weird but you should stand with ……. my feet



    Of course Darwinism is correct in stating that we and apes have a common ancestor. Genetics and DNA research prove this beyond doubt. In fact all life on earth is genetically related.




    We are all from that very first 'light.'


    All life is of the 'light' and in the process of evolution we can all recognize, that if ever there is a break in the lineage or that a branch of life stops, then the extinct is observed. This means within each of us, that 'original' light is still alive and if ever there was a break in our lineage we would not be here.



    The question is whether this relatedness is the direct result of natural selection and evolution, or of some higher order universal dynamics that manifests itself as an evolutionary process and survival of the fittest in nature.



    Instinctive is pretty much always of the 'intent' to continue. And man shares his 'instinct' simply by observing that drive of copulation.


    The real issue is that with 'choice' or that experience of, we as a species have isolated ourselves from the natural (left the garden)


    so to honor 'life' and the life of nature, we can see our own traits


    but we know compassion and Love; capable of giving of ourselves over the nature of instinct.


    We can create and 'support life to continue' by choice rather than instinct. We can give of ourselves for the good of 'the total'.............


    I don't know from which school of thought you are; but you definitely must have a great teacher.


    Thanks Bishadi.



    Each moment is in learning. Absolute devotion to existence (bhakti - Krsna Conscious).

    As a child learning was important. An idea about how life works was pursued and the math revealed itself. So the framework was used to define how the human brain works and was submitted in 82 for peer review; the community was rude. At the time combining physics with biology at that level was apparently not comprehended. That initial mathematical script, combines the three (mass.energy.time) and short like the E=mc2 but perfectly shares how ‘the light’ works.

    Literally is shares how the universe and life itself actually works. Yet at the bright age of 16, that scope, I did not realize. That what was stumbled upon, is what the majority of mans sciences have all been trying to identify.

    Truth is, had I known then, I would probably be owning Dow and the richest man on the earth right now but when the original paper was rudely address I made a covenant with God.

    That to pursue knowledge until 40 and then stop all personal choice for the conveyance of truth. That no government, business, theology or institution will control, sell or impose bias upon the truth and it will be free to each equally. That one day the children will be able to know the truth with absolute foundation.

    During that period, much has been learned beyond what many even thought possible only a couple decades ago. I had no idea back then but here I am 42 and now ruined in knowing things that are beyond scary. In that now words of prophecies and parables open up and share things of the coming that are beyond what many could even imagine our species could be capable of.

    This is all I do! Read, study, travel and share…. No one knows who or where it is coming from but now all over the world, from within the churches to the universities; the truth is unfolding. The promise will be kept and when the time is correct, the math perfecting all of it will also be released.

    Would have been easier to have single teacher but there is no single teacher other than honoring all knowledge as if purposed, from God.

    My teacher is devotion with absolute honesty over ‘self.’

    That is why I get so cocky; because that choice was never made for a gain or selfish purpose but to give back. If I succumbed to being of needs; I could be a very dangerous person!

    And yet, I sit here now alone, with my bed roll next to my chair and give until I sleep, eat or go. It may seem like a lonely life to some but be certain, to even recognize one person is learning ‘the truth’, the experience of bliss is beyond the joys of copulation.

    A commitment was made ‘by choice’ for the good of life. That is the only claim to fame I will ever be able to make. I made a good choice and maintain that commitment with every fiber of passion any warrior could ever make. What you are experiencing is that Love within existence and to be married to existence takes a commitment in which we each either ‘do or don’t’

    I made my choice!

    I do!

    A few years back I sat on the patio with my Mother and said to her, “Mother do you realize what I have been working on all my life will share how the sciences and world religions combine.” She is aware of how many breakthroughs I had reached all through growing up. But I added, ‘that to understand the literal facts about how it work will now offer the foundation for all the medical sciences to be perfected and now each can actually be able to measure ‘good and bad’ equally and the there will be no need of religion again.

    I could not help but share ‘why me?’ I said, ‘Mother, do you realize what this means?’

    Can’t repeat what she said, but perhaps one day each can realize, it wasn’t me who made the initial claim.

    No matter as all over the world, every religion said the day would come, all I did was live a commitment, never said I would be nice about it!


    it has always been said that the first man and woman on earth was ADAM AND EVE! is it true ? lol . but what about the theory of science that we are descendent of monkeys ?



    foolish question ya


    A metaphor with much to offer.

    That is the first story or ‘creation’

    the ‘2<SUP>nd</SUP> creation’ is the last chapter coming.

    In this life is shared as from the interaction of light (energy) and mass. Such as from ‘atoms and energy’ a true comprehensible understanding of life reveals itself. In that light is the form to energy that combines all elements to make any single molecule. This process is misunderstood in the sciences by the constraint of Planck’s constant. Current physics are incorrect and why in general studies, the children are not shown how 'evolution' works within the math and chemistry of sciences. By walking the planck, 'chaos' and equlibrium maintain the conflict and the division of sciences. Meaning Darwin shared the observance to evolution by no mathematical framework in the science can provide the proof to over rule the religions.


    That progress of atoms and energy to combine and share ‘life’ is an ever evolving process of time and environment. In which harmonizing mass resonates and when combinations associate their combined energy is greater than individual. (opposite of entropy)

    Life began at the beginning of ‘mass and energy in time’, rather than at Adam and Eve but, let’s go on.

    The idea that woman came from the rib of man, well in biology each cell divides by giving up a portion of itself to ‘create’ the next generation.

    Then when Adam ate of the tree of knowledge. (Adams apple story)… that shares the day that comprehension was born in consciousness and man left nature (instinctive) but in the story God kicked them out of the garden of Eden. (purely natural)

    But man became aware of himself and why they began to wear fig leafs; awareness.

    The story goes on but now read through it with new eyes and find, mans became ‘one of us’ per Jehovah in which by choice man can ‘create life’.

    Hope that helps

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