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MESSAGE 2:-
I am never too busy
I will see you as and when I please.
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Originally posted by valaya:
In my humble opinion, the only things truly worthy of `Spiritual Discussion`, as opposed to `Religious Discussion`, are Divine Grace and our personal surrender to Her.
Yes I was wondering myself
why this thread entitled
<u>Medicinal Properties of Tulasi </u>
was not placed in the
Health and Wellbeing Forum.
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Originally posted by karthik_v:
[Various Indian history books] are all sold in India and often come from the same publisher. Yet, they contradict each other. So, whic[h] of them do I believe?
Read widely
Analyze vigourously
Believe your best conclusions
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JRdd: About Talasiga's question about the japa mala, well first of all they use the wood after Tulasi has left the body
talasiga: So it is alright to use the wood from a dead tulsi (viz. "after Tulasi has left the body") but not to use the leaves that have fallen ?
stonehearted: [Prabhupada] said that Tualsi was not to be heated. He would make sun tea by putting manjaris in a jar of water and letting it sit for a while, sometimes in the sun.
talasiga: Aha ! Brilliant ! So this is the way he would <u>use</u> it !
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Originally posted by talasiga
4th posting in this mala:
<u>If you are unable to pick Her leaves, why not
accept those already fallen on the ground ?</u>.
BTW, how do these "smritis" provide for the use of tulsi wood for making japamala ?
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Originally posted by gHari:
Like my life has anything to do with you. Three times you hassled me. Now maybe English is not your first language and you can't see the real meaning in my original post, but even if that is the case, posts two, three, and four were just a nuisance and an ego thing. My life has nothing to do with you. Keep your word jugglery away from me - my life's too precious. Find another way to maintain your ego.
Meaning is my first language
I will juggle any other to convey it.
You started off despising all Sikhs and
now you are down to only abusing me.
We are making some progress .....
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[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 10-29-2001).]
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
Talasigaji: If Hari is All
What can be without Him ?
Satyaraj: So, why I cannot feel that “Symphony of Spheres” on my present sayujiya?
ANSWER 2:
First, have you fully felt your present "sayujiya" ?
[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 10-29-2001).]
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
Talasigaji: If Hari is All
What can be without Him ?
Satyaraj: So, why I cannot feel that “Symphony of Spheres” on my present sayujiya?
ANSWER 1:
You are not
All of Hari .....
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jndas: Please read my poem above. Its a haikoo. And it answers your questions.
talasiga: I can see no poem.
Madhudvisha's illness was obviously liver toxicity and the "blindness" a transient symptom. Perhaps a medical practitioner, such as Satyaraj, may be able to explain this to you.
jndas: Regarding the boiling of ganga water, it is in reference to trying to purify the water of material contaminations.
talasiga: So why did you introduce this in parallel to the discussion on tulsi ?
Are you suggesting that tulsi should not be boiled to purify it but may be boiled for other reasons like when Prabhupad wishes to make it into tea
cf
ganga water should not be boiled to purify the water of material contaminations but may be boiled to cook daal.
jndas: Further, one cannot wash one's clothes in Ganga water, nor brush one's teeth in it (in the general sense). There are procedures for purifying one's cloth while bathing in the ganga, but it is another topic. Tirthas are not to be used for mundane things.
talasiga: you might ask your Guru whether every place in the Ganga is a Tirtha
or only certain points of CONFLUENCE.
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[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 10-29-2001).]
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gHari: So y'all will insist that I too must live my life on the mental platform, using induction and logic to effect my life? Where's that written - especially in a spiritual forum where 'surrender' is bandied about like a cliche.
talasiga: Does the state of surrender encompass chanting the Lord's Name on the rosary AND, at the same time, giving a commentary on this to a taxi driver ?
gHari: I do not consider it a prejudice to avoid those who deny God's person. It was recommended to me by the man I've admired most in this life, to avoid such impersonalists for they are more dangerous than a tiger.
talasiga: It is MOST appropriate that you avoid displaying your erudition to that particular taxi driver !
It is INAPPROPRIATE prejudice that you have judged all Sikhs on the basis of one experience with one of them.
ghARI: I am now trying to determine whether that Sikh I met was just stupid or not knowledgeable about his own religion, or whether Guru Nanak's teachings have been distorted into an impersonalistic church.
talasiga: Are you sure he was a Sikh and not someone in disguise ?
Have you thought that, perhaps he was a frustrated psychotherapist out to bust your false ego ?
gHari: Believe me, I am hoping most desperately that I can write that rude character off as an uneducated misfit out of touch with real Sikhism. Some of the websites however are not too promising, talking of merging into a formless God.
talasiga: No contradiction. Krishna has provided His formless aspect for those who are into merging .....
gHari: Yet Nanak is quite lovely so there is still hope.
talasiga: Keep reading. You may come to a page where you will learn about forgiveness.
gHari: If you are a Sikh you can help me here.
talasiga: If I have helped you it is by Lord's Grace.
If I haven't, it is not because I am not a Sikh.
gHari: If you are an impersonalist, then you will hate me no matter what I do.
talasiga: You are not so significant that you can serve as a focus for a definition of impersonalism.
If I were to love you no matter what you did, would that make me a personalist ?
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[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 10-29-2001).]
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Gauracandra: But for some reason Madhudvisa couldn't vomit the poison out.
After a while he literally went blind and couldn't see. They asked Srila Prabhupada what to do and <u>he said to make a tea out of some Tulasi leaves </u> and to give this to Madhudvisa. He drank the tea down, and his food poisoning disappeared and his sight recovered almost immediately. [underlining by Talasiga]
jndas: But for devotees, the tulasi should be taken as it was offered to the Lord. It should not be ground, boiled, etc. In the same way, ganga water should not be boiled or filtered (except through a cloth to remove fish, insects or debris).
talasiga:
1. How would Prabhupad make tulsi tea without boiling it ?
2. It is OK to dump your sins in it and wash clothes in it, but you cannot use Ganga water to make daal ?
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Dear gHari
All your cut and paste
is a lot of waste
until you can grow out of this prejudice:-
Originally posted by gHari:
I was chanting on my beads on the way to the airport in Toronto in an airport limo. The driver was Sikh.
I mentioned that this practice had come from Caitanya Mahaprabhu who was a contemporary of Guru Nanaak. I mentioned the story of how the two had danced and sang hymns together.
He became quite angry and belligerent: "Sikhs do not sing and dance!"
I noted how they worship Krsna. He said no they don't, that God has no form or name. I mentioned that his Guru referred to God by Krsna's names like Rama and Govinda. He was still adamant that their God was not Krsna; that the use of the names was only to appease the neighborhood Hindus.
I lost a lot of respect for them that day, and they became just more psychotics in my mind. Now maybe Mayavadis can be found in all religions, but I am not likely to approach another Sikh unless Krsna really drags me by the ears.
Waking up is quick and sweet
and involves no long quotes !
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Originally posted by gHari:
What, no pedantic poetry from the frog in the well?
Who
would leave his common sense
in a Toronto taxi !?
Please reconsider your position
(2nd request)
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[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 10-28-2001).]
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Originally posted by gHari:
I lost a lot of respect for them that day, and they became just more psychotics in my mind. Now maybe Mayavadis can be found in all religions, but I am not likely to approach another Sikh unless Krsna really drags me by the ears.
!!!
Compare with:
I bought a box of apples from the organic produce
warehouse. The first apple I went to eat was rotten
through to the core.
I just threw the rest of the box away in disgust.
I will never ever buy apples there again .....
gHari,
You are deafened by your prejudice
Do you think Krishna would drag such a deaf ear ?
I don't know but certainly He is such an unpredicatble Lord.
Please reconsider your position.
Sat Shree Akal
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Dearmost Friends,
The cow is holy yet many will milk her.
The Guru is much loved yet many will be taught by Him or Her
The sun is Surya Narayan Himself -will you not be warmed by Him ?
The symbiotic relationship is no bar to mutual love.
If you are unable to pick Her leaves, why not
accept those already fallen on the ground ?
(This is not a poem)
Kind Regards
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the poems of Kabir are there also.
please do not be too silent about them !
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Originally posted by gHari:
Welcome to my killfile list:
satyaraja
jijaji
shvu
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"If someone blasphemes a VaiSNava, one should stop him with arguments and higher reason. If one is not expert enough to do this he should give up his life on the spot, and if he cannot do this, he must go away."
Where in this recommendation is killing of blasphemers
(or alleged blasphemers ) promoted ?
BTW, do you think that Krishna's Devotee is so low
that such comments can blaspheme him ?
To think that the Devotee could be so easily blasphemed
would itself appear to be a much more fundamental blasphemy.
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Originally posted by luigee:
How can I start the process of becoming a hindu.
It is pointless for the hungry
to set up the crockery and cutlery
and to celebrate the ritual of eating
unless they have some food for the table.
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Originally posted by Hedley:
Why does this not surprise me?
Perhaps it is already within your heartfelt expectation ......
Miriam Mata ki Jay !
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Originally posted by jndas:
Satyaraj, its amazing how you can take any discussion, and inject your hatred into it in a manner to make the discussion deviate completely from the original point.
I have not yet seen this "hatred"
but only some clumsy love.
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
Is there something outside Hari that is not inside Him?
If Hari is All
What can be without Him ?
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"Ultimate" is a relative concept
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
Anyway, instead of discussing philosophical tenants in such situation I would prefer to feel the “Symphony of the Spheres.” In that condition you can easily hear to the symphony playing at the heart of any mukta, including gopis themselves!
Even the movement of blood evinces harmonics
But don't you know that it is the HEARTSONG
that moves it ?
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
I insist that Ravana also has invented the violin that was played with a stick made of bull’s tail hair. Ravana was very inventive...
This reference to a "violin"
must be a product of the translation process
Some scholars with a meagre knowledge of musical intruments and for want of the appropriate word
for a chordaphonic instrument played with a bow
may have used the word "violin" in a generic sense.
It would have been better had they used the word "fiddle".
As you would be aware the violin emerged only about 400
or so years ago in Europe probably derived from the Arabian
rebab, the medieval fiddle and the rebec.
Of course, if you have information that Ravana invented
a fiddle other than the sarangi or, what is more likely,
the sarangi's forerunner, I have a genuine interest in
knowing more about this <u>fiddle</u>.
Message from Krsna
in Spiritual Discussions
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MESSAGE 3:-
I may appear as the River
the Ferry of Devotion
the Ferryman
Even as Radha
waiting at Every Shore