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  2. Fasting and Prayer

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    Posted

    Originally posted by JRdd:

    Anyway, if you see fit to throw nectar my way, I will keep my mouth open but silent. Like a baby bird.

     

    How can the exiled mean dwarf

    throw nectar to a distant Snow White ?

     

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    BTW, my breakFAST this morning

    was snow peas from my garden.

     

     

    Now I am going "bush" for some days

    to fast and pray

    If anyone is sending me a friendly message

    I will not be able to reply for quite some days

    Not that I'm expecting any ....... Posted Image

     

    My kindest and most loving regards

    to all my friends

    (even those who dont like me !)

     

     

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

  3. Fasting and Prayer

    in Spiritual Discussions

    Posted

    Originally posted by JRdd:

    Actually i just saw your email, don't usually go to that box. Never mind, you seem to have an atittude toward me and I don't expect any nectar..

    It is not appropriate to discuss private e-mails publicly

    but, seeing as you have breached the etiquette,

    let me just confirm that the substantial issue

    in my private and civil e-mail,

    that has any relevance for public purvey,

    is that:

     

    I do not want you to publish any of my

    poems or other writings on your homepage

    at this point in time. (As the author,

    I am entitled to withold consent and

    my exercise of my unfettered legal rights

    are neither diminished nor enhanced

    by any perceived or expressed attitude

    underpinning the exercise of them).

     

    _____

     

    BTW, getting back to this thread:

     

    It may well be the black buck

    in your dreams who will bring

    you the future honeysuckle -

    I am too busy preparing for my

    "voice dialogue" at sunrise.....

     

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    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-21-2001).]

  13. Fasting and Prayer

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    Posted

    Originally posted by Gauracandra:

    I have always found that I get the best results from chanting during those times I fast.

     

    I would venture to say

    that the "results" are always there

    One may tend to discern them more readily

    under certain conditions.

    With respect

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

  18. Fasting and Prayer

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    Posted

    Originally posted by JRdd:

    Funnny title for a book by Ehret. Guess I took it to his extremes with the fruitarian thing.

     

    The principles for fasting practice

    set out in Ehret's treatise (early 1900's)

    are not extremist at all.

    Whatever one may think of his

    other opinions and claims

    the fasting procedure advice is sound

    tried and tested

    and continues to serve as a classic reference

    for many leading health practitioners

    to the present time.

    "The Grape Cure" treatise by Johanna Brandt

    appears consistent with the principles

    set out by Professor Ehret.

     

    Prof Ehret presents a rationale and

    1. advises how to prepare for the fast.

    2. advises how to break a fast and the days following a fast.

    3. does not predetermine the length of a fast - this depends on the condition of the person and the experience during the fast in each individual case.

    4. does not support the "fanatic" long water fast.

    5. advises on appropriateness of nutrition during fasts (whether water, fruit juice, vegetable juice) depending on the condition and the experience of the patient in each individual case.

     

    I think it is best read

    in conjunction with his book

    "Mucusless Diet Healing System".

     

     

     

  20. Fasting and Prayer

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    Posted

    Originally posted by Gauracandra:

    Any recommendations on how to approach a safe, sensible fast?

     

    I would recommend reading

    "Rational Fasting" by Professor Arnold Ehret

    Ehret Literature Publishing Co.

    Beaumont, California 92223.

     

    (There is a website under that name also)

     

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    flush talasiga@hotmail.com

     

     

  25. The Tao of Krishna consciousness

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    Posted

    quote:

    -----------originally posted by talasiga:

    The ferry of devotion

    finds Radha waiting

    at every shore

    ------------

     

    <u>EXPLICATION 1 (?):,</u>

     

    Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:

    Badarayana Rsi has clearly established in Brahma-sutras that the way that Hari operates is beyond the reasoning faculty. No smrtis can be made on that sruti. Besides Baladeva no other commentator has ever made that inference that 'para-sakti is Hari's operative power' simply because it denies sruti.

     

    According to Gaudiya’s theology Hari’s Grace Itself is His svarupa-sakti, Sri Radha, the Power of Divine Love, Prema Bhakti.

     

    But according to Vedanta Hari's grace is caused by His own absolute free will and nothing else. Now Gaudiyas had termed His free will as 'svarupa-sakti' and 'Sri Radha', and had inferred that she is the cause of prema-bhakti, the power of Divine Love.

     

    But this theology is refuted by Badarayana Rsi himself in Vedanta (2.2.43 to 46), where he clear denies saktis' theory completely. There is no sruti text to support this theology besides some very imaginative inferences made by some Gaudiyas and saktas.

     

    So, according to Gaudiyas reasoning Hari's free will is an energy or sakti, and it has a personal aspect and also may works according to her free will. She also deserves to be worshiped, as she is endowed which free will, and she has a personal form.

     

    Entities that have personal forms and free will and are Hari's parts and parcels are called jivas, not saktis. Therefore Radha may be considered as a jiva, as Sri Madhva has done. Sri Vallabha did not placed sakhis at any particular category besides as Hari's partners in His lilas. But never as Hari's soul, or as a second Hari, or something apart from Hari. Sri Ramanuja considered Laksimi as worshipable as she is dear to Hari, but he did not infer that Laksmi is a sakti.

     

    According to Gaudiyas' theology, jivas, maya and antaranga are all saktis. But, again Badarayana Rsi explains in Vedanta that this theology is a concoction, as no one is fit to understand Hari's 'modus operandi', or the way He sports His lilas. This is beyond our reasoning faculties and therefore these inferences are but childish explanations.

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    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-19-2001).]

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