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  1. Posted · Report reply

    My dearmost Satyaraja Dasa

     

    If you be vegetarian

    Where is the danger in touching the food

    with your hands -

    Do garbanzos bite ?

    And what of urinating and defecating

    on the ground ?

    Would you have it that they be emitted into

    the high air ?

    Why , where then would we place our farts ?

    Don't you know that the Vedanta is silent

    about common sense ?

    It is common sense that keeps the world

    and Vedanta is what ends it ..........

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

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    Dear Friends and Maitreya

     

    From his very first posting we know that

    "Faithless Devotee" already

     

    1. chants "Hare Krsna" but his "heart still hasn't been captured" (cf. with verse 2 of Shikshaashtak of Lord Chaitanya).

     

    2. knows that having the same degree of faith and belief as some may purport to have "would just be a miracle".

     

    3. discerns so many perplexities "that get in the way of the philosophies validity".

     

    4. queries that the conception of a "higher consciousness may just be some sort of secondary maya keeping us from another truth of some inconceivable nature".

     

    5. is gracious enough to wish all well on their spiritual paths.

     

    So ..............

    what more can we teach him ?

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-29-2001).]

  4. Posted · Report reply

    Dear Valaya:

     

    valaya: Please forgive any wrong assumptions

    or misperceptions on my part. I do like

    what you write, though often I'm not at all sure

    of my ability to grasp much of your meaning.

    talasiga: It is not my meanings that

    need to be grasped. The "poems" may be mine

    but I can neither own their meanings nor ever

    know them all. I can only respectfully ask that

    you approach the serious ones openly and

    honourably. Thank You.

     

    _______

     

    valaya: You are obviously a deep, sensitive

    devotee and that's why I originally reached out

    for a closer personal connection by phone.

     

    talasiga: I am sorry but I dont get much

    deeper in communication than most of what I write here.

    Please see

    URL=http://www.indiadivine.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000017.html]http://www.indiadivine.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000017.html

    which you have ignored.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: I sense that you may appreciate the

    value of painful separation in love which enables each

    one of us to individually relate emotionally

    with Srimati Radharani.

     

    talasiga: I have no choice.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: That, as you and everyone else here must

    know by now, is my sole area of interest which

    I see as the key to everything else.

     

    talasiga: Personally, I find your

    tendency to align your deepest feelings to some

    stifling dialectic a little frightening.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: What does bother me is that sometimes a poetic

    response may not be appropriate and can even seem trite.

    Certainly, too much of even a good thing can

    provoke a negative reaction.

     

    talasiga: Sometimes I am bothered by this also.

    Actually I do not mostly set out to write some poetry.

    I tend to respond to things from,

    what I would best describe as, an intuitive

    point and, in honouring that intuitive response,

    try not to clutter it too much

    with a lecture style of writing. This honouring process

    may incidentally result in "poetry"

    or poetic prose.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: Do you really want to communicate

    or just be cute?

     

    talasiga: Show me anything significantly

    cute and I will respond to this.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: Others here use flowery glorification

    of gurus, or vast scriptural quotations, to avoid truly

    personal sharing.

     

    talasiga: I cannot answer for them.

    Generally, that style of writing does not suit me

    but I cannot condemn it. Krishna may require such

    a style of me sometime.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: After awhile those that appear to be

    refusing/unable to go deeper on a more intimate

    level start appearing to me as more like Krsna than Radhika,

    and my concern is only with Her.

     

    talasiga: From the perspective of my personal

    experience, this is a very limited appreciation

    of Radha Krishna. Regretably, as I do not

    have any qualification to be your Guru I cannot

    help you in any deliberate capacity.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: Since I believe we are all

    part and parcel of the internal potency personified

    as Sri Radha, those who hold onto Krsna exclusively

    and actually begin to emulate Him, even

    at His most charming, quickly become distasteful to me.

     

    talasiga: Please trust your Intuition.

    If you intuit that I am emulating Him,

    avoid me like the plague.

    At another time, Intuition may review the situation

    for you and you may see me differently

    if at all relevant.

     

    ______

     

    valaya: This includes provocative teasing beyond a certain point...

     

    talasiga: I don't think comical responses such as "if you dont

    like what I write you will hate me when I ring"

    are provacative. There is even an element of

    self deprecatory humour in them. Any humour does not

    diminish the heartfelt truth in them. <u>If the truth

    is unpalatable it is not the teasing that makes it so.</u>

     

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    valaya: My position is absolutely clear: when Krsna's `playfulness`

    brings pain and tears to Radharani and Her girlfriends,

    including His abandoning them to leave Vrndavana, my sympathies lie ONLY with them; while my anger, resentment, bitterness, etc. focus ENTIRELY on HIM. I am not at all interested in hearing any philosophical or shastric explanation that these are just `playful pastimes`. For those that are involved, they are very serious indeed. At least that's my reality.

     

    talasiga: This may be a gutsy focus for some

    gestalt therapy session.

    Emotional integration need never be an

    impediment to spiritual living

    ______

     

    valaya: Maybe when I become more purified, I will

    see things in a wholly different perspective. For now,

    I take this as deadly serious and my entire

    emotional self is firmly committed at the expense of everything

    else, including close relationships with other human

    beings (family, friends, romance, etc.).

     

    talasiga: This tends to CONTRADICT your

    proclaimed striving to establish a

    closer personal connection with me.....

    So, need we continue further with this ?

     

     

    Your unphony correspondent

    Talasiga

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-28-2001).]

  8. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by Sirona:

    Dear Friend,

    please tell me: does Martin Sheen not have the right to pray the Rosary only because he is an actor?

    Actors are human beings, too.

    Non non non

    Cherie Sirona

     

    Gauracandra never said he didn't have the right. She just said she was startled by seeing him do this.

    I agree: of course American actors are humans. Startling but true !

     

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

  9. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by shvu:

     

    * Talasiga, if you are planning to do what

    I think you will do, please don't...

    because we have already done it twice.

    Thanks in advance.

     

     

    Getting paranoid in your youth ?

    Hey kiddo !

    Your nappy is over your mouth

    and I'll change it as often as I have to

    (but never in advance)

     

     

    Yawn

    zzzzzzzzzzz

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-28-2001).]

  11. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by M-dd:

    I can call up the experience of being surrounded in Her Divine Embrace any time I think about it, ecstacy is there. Follow your heart.

     

    What Seduction !

    You have taken me

    Where I've not been !

    Following my fallen heart

    Under the waters of ecstasy

    I see weightless heart moves freely.

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

  15. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by suryaz:

    Is "not of sound mind" they are of distortion.

    I am sure you can make some logic, as with some good poetry out of the above.

    Perhaps you may begin with “To thine own self be true” and move on from there.

     

    In a trial the plea of non compos mentis may variously go towards exempting from trial or towards mitigating guilt or lessening the penalty of the person purported to be "not of sound mind".

    NOTA BENE: For this purpose, the being "not of sound mind" must be to the extent that the prosecuted does not have the capacity to understand or appreciate the nature or quality of the alleged crime. It does not simply mean someone of insane disposition.

     

    In the circumstances, your continued use of the term is incorrect and when correctly understood tends to undermine the very point about culpability that you are putting forward.

     

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

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    Originally posted by suryaz:

    1 That is the non-composmentis of it (fixed the spelling up Talasiga)

     

    2 I [will] not let it happen again.

     

    Dear Suryaz

     

    <u>The Importance of Language

    (as you say)</u>

     

    1. It is not just the spelling which

    you have still got wrong but also your pretension to a meaningful use of the term,

    "not of sound mind", whose application in

    your arguments appears very muddled, if not totally incorrect.

     

    2. Your statement:

    "I will not let it happen again"

    and the statement (notionally within the ambit of your negative criticism):

    "I will not let her seduce again",

    have remarkably similar syntax.

    Namely,

    Subject will not let Object(other) do X.

     

    (ie chaste S VERSUS evil O)

     

    Your linguistic bud

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-27-2001).]

  20. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by valaya:

    if only I could figure out what `non-compusmentus` means...Suryaz prabhu

    It is actually non compos mentis, (latin) meaning "not of sound mind", mostly used in legal parlance. Sometimes people use such terms to flag their neo graduate status but this characteristic is often ironed out by the process of life after academia. (Of course, I don't know if this is the case here).

     

    Most linguistic experts are not in favour of "latinisms" in common parlance unless there is no adequate substitute for a particular latin term and unless they are used precisely and correctly. Throwing in a bit of latin and then spelling it wrongly tends to burn the affectation.

     

    some references:

    Osborn's Concise Law Dictionary ISBN 0-421-29680-1 Pbk

    Longman Guide to English Usage ISBN 0-582-55619-8

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-27-2001).]

  23. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by suryaz:

    And where to begin? We begin with sound. Through correctness in linguistic representation abuse can be nipped it in the bud. Through speaking honestly we created honest notions and/or rectify those notions left over from former disfigurations, conditionings (whatever). But the main thing is to breathe honesty not distortion. In so doing violence is curbed and ahimsa is restored.

     

    Honesty

    is the seduction

    of sound by silence

     

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

  25. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by rishidas:

    Hello again, Suryaz!.....May I kindly ask you what your gender is.........

     

     

    No No No No NO No No No No

    No No No No NO No No No No No NO

    NnnnnnnnnnooooOh !

     

    Wrong question my dear Rishi......

     

    You should ask,

    <u>"What is your agenda ?"</u>

    It is more politically correct

    and more meeting like,

    if you know what I mean.

     

     

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

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