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    Originally posted by darwin:

    What do you mean by "we are not without this body".

     

    As I formulated:

     

    "We are not this body + <u>we are not without this body</u> = simultaneously

    one + different"

     

    where,

     

    Undifferentiated Brahman (Nirguna) = Satchidananda, and

    Differentiated Brahman (Saguna)= Satchidananda + Vigraha

     

    then, conclusive formulation above reads as:

     

    Undifferentiated Brahman + Vigraha = simultaneously one and different.

     

     

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

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    <u>Topic: Medicinal Properties of Tulasi</u>

     

    Originally posted by JRdd:

    Mr Das [dasanudas]refers to homoeopathy not in a literal sense but in a poetic and spiritual sense. Homoeopathy is so vibrational anyway, each hundred thousandth dilution taking you deeper, that I think it is a great analogy.

     

    The truly spiritual or poetic sense is not a flight

    from the heart of a matter but, rather, the reflection

    of its very essence.

     

    The essence of homeopathy is the principle that "like cures like"

    and the truly poetic sensibility will explore that essence

    rather than <u>escape</u> it.

     

    Similarly, the essence of spiritual life is reciprocity in relationships

    between the Divine and the devotees and amongst the devotees

    and the truly spiritual sensibility revels in this reciprocity

    rather than eclipsing it with some "one way" heirarchical dogma.

     

     

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

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    Originally posted by darwin:

    There is no need to get upset about the fact that our bodies evolved from ape bodies. We are not this body.

    Nirguna Brahman = Satchidananda = no attributes

    Saguna Brahman = Satchidananda Vigraha = with attributes

     

    IE:

    Impersonal Supreme = Being Knowing Bliss = One

    Personal Supreme = Being Knowing Bliss with Form (Body)= differentiation

     

    Thus:

    Personal Supreme MINUS Vigraha = Impersonal Supreme

    (Satchidananda Vigraha MINUS Vigraha = Satchidananda)

     

    Therefore:

    We are not this body + <u>we are not without this body</u> = simultaneously

    one + different

     

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-08-2001).]

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    Originally posted by JRdd:

    Now here is my similar dilemma though. A couple of days ago I bought these great-looking organic cranberries. I really wanted some for a health reason and was so surprised to see some actually in the store, not in some bottle with sugar added. So at home my daughter was getting ready to make us a spirulina cranberry blender drink and I asked her to use honey, anticipating sourness from the berries. Now it turned out that the only honey we had was maha from when Lord Jagannath was "ill" at the Berkeley Temple before Rathayatra. She got the jar out and noticed manjari bits in it, which I had forgotten about. So what should we have done? What we did do was put it in the blender.

     

    Did you ask the "manjaris" about this ?

     

     

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    Originally posted by dasanudas:

    Just the names of Vrnda devi on the tongue

    Will heal an ailing heart

    Just feel her homeopathic potency

     

     

    "homeopathy.....

    School of medicine founded by Dr S.C.E. Hahnemann (1755-1843)

    in 1796 in Philadelphia,

    based on the theory that large doses of drugs

    that produce symptoms of a disease in healthy people

    will cure the same symptoms when administered in small amounts.

    This is loosely based on the theory that 'like cures like'."

    (from Edition 14 Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary)

     

    QUESTION for Dasanudas:

    In light of this explanation, <u>what exactly is the illness

    that you purport is caused by ocimum sanctum

    that is cured by it in a "homeopathic potency"</u> ?

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-07-2001).]

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    talasiga: Dear Dasanudas - you appear to have had some problems quoting me

    (particularly the excerpt from Lord Chaitanya which steered my message)

    in your last post so here it is follwed by your own comments

     

    Originally posted by talasiga:

    Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu,

    "There are not even hard and fast rules for chanting these names....."

     

    No rules for the Holy Names to dance upon the tongue

    But may not the tongue host the Holy Herb

    unless all the songs are sung ?

     

    Dasanudas:

    Bush flower remedy.

    Clues from the Muse

     

    Just the names of Vrnda devi on the tongue

    Will heal an ailing heart

    Just feel her homeopathic potency

     

    talasiga: Your response warrants an examination of

    a) whether the Holy Herb can appropriately

    be the subject

    of <u>utility</u> requiring a consideration of homeopathic potency

    CONCURRENTLY

    with the <u>piety</u> towards the Holy Herb professed by some.

    b) the modus operandi of homeopathy.

     

    However, as there is a spring storm brewing in Eastern Australia

    at this time (c. 11 PM, Tuesday night) I must switch off now.

     

    CLICK

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-06-2001).]

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    Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu,

    "There are not even hard and fast rules for chanting these names....."

     

     

    Originally posted by JRdd:

    "Upon your tongue convey the Names."

     

     

    No rules for the Holy Names to dance upon the tongue

    But may not the tongue host the Holy Herb

    unless all the songs are sung ?

     

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    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-05-2001).]

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    Topic: Recommending JNDas

     

    Originally posted by jndas:

    I would appreciate it if you could act like a sane person, and not like Melvin. The question was whether there are references in the Bible which specifically state one no longer needs to offer sacrifice to the Lord. Your answers are just wasting space here.

     

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    Originally posted by talasiga:

    The ferry of devotion

    finds Radha waiting

    at every shore

     

     

    IMPLICATION 13:

     

    She feels the separation when the Ferry goes

    Feels the union when the Ferry comes

    and She feels the River at Her toes.

    But can She feel His feelings

    as He watches Her waiting

    at the shore ?

     

     

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    talasiga@hotmail.com

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    jndas: In Vrindavana everyone serves the Lord in Madhurya rasa.

    talasiga: Even a light study

    of "The Nectar of Devotion" (ISBN 0-912776072-2 hardbound) by AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad tends to contradict the above statement.

    See especially Part 3.

    Shaanta-rasa is deemed foundational and inherent in the other four "primary" rasa-s.

    Clearly the Gopas in Vrindaban are mostly sakhya-rati and Yasodha and Nandan are vaatsalya-rati.

    PRABHUPAD:.....in the Eleventh Canto of Shr[ee]mad-Bh[aa]gvatam, Lord K[rishn]a personally instructs Uddhava like this: "The state of being established in My personal form is called [shaa]nta-rasa, and without being situated in this position, no one can advance to actual pure devotional service." In other words, no one can be situated in the personal feature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead without being situated at least in [shaa]nta-rasa.

    (The Nectar of Devotion at end of Chapter 35)

     

    jndas: The foundation of those rasas in Vrindavana is madhurya.

    talasiga: This is quite a beautiful proposition and intuitively I find it acceptable. Prabhupad's comments on Lord Krishna's pronouncements about the precedence of shhanta-rasa need not preclude special pre-eminence of madhura-rasa in the very special Vrindaban.

     

    However the statement,

    "In Vrindavana everyone serves the Lord in Madhurya rasa" must continue to be incorrect even in the light of the proposition that "The foundation of those rasas in Vrindavana is madhurya".

    For instance just because shaanta-rasa is foundational to the other rasa-s doesn't mean that you can say, "The Gopis serve the Lord in shaanta" !

    And in pursuance of the proposition for the pre-eminence of madhura: Neither can you correctly say, that, as a generality, "In Vrindaban, Yashoda serves the Lord in madhura-rasa" !

     

     

     

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-02-2001).]

  22. Posted · Report reply

    <u>Unfanatical Arrangements for Veteran Member Animesh

    to Have a New Username Without Acquiring Junior Status</u>

     

    Originally

    posted by jndas,forum administrator (addressing Animesh):

    I will edit the joining date so it can say you have been member since XYZ.

    Animesh !!!

    See, see, what did I tell you ?

    There you are then and what about a chocolate for me ?

    Huh ?

     

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    Originally posted by valaya:

    Why no more Emails? Nothing personal you care to share? Afraid I'll break the rules? Nothing has changed from my end...

     

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    When you have sent me 30 or 40 e-mails

    you will become one of my "senior corespondents".

    Then I might consider getting "personal".

    But don't hold out for it:

    after all I might be a <u>robot</u> that marco has

    not yet detected !

     

     

  24. Posted · Report reply

    Originally posted by jndas:

    In Vrindavana everyone serves the Lord in Madhurya rasa.

     

     

     

    Even a light study

    of "The Nectar of Devotion" (ISBN 0-912776072-2 hardbound) by AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad

    tends to contradict the above statement.

    See especially Part 3.

     

    <u>Shaanta Ras</u> is deemed foundational and inherent in the other four "primary" rasa-s.

    Clearly the Gopas in Vrindaban are mostly sakhya-rati and Yasodha and Nandan are vaatsalya-rati.

     

     

     

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    valaya:Some are able to discern the difference between

    using for material medicinal benefits and taking spiritual shelter.

    talasiga: Indeed ! Both sickness and the seeing of ghosts

    are tamasic. One may take spiritual shelter from them.

     

    valaya: Also, the Holy Names have no restrictions

    in this Age of Kali.

    talasiga: The recommendation for <u>anyone</u>

    is to chant from the <u>loving heart</u>. Does this include include

    chanting from the <u>fearful kidneys</u> or the <u>angry liver</u> ?

     

    valaya: Any offenses incurred by chanting

    are absolved through continued chanting.

    talasiga: How did the topic of "offense" arise ?

    I don't recall raising it.

     

    valaya: What's the matter, Talasiga, JRdd not responding

    gratefully enough to your condescending `compliments`?

    talasiga: I am grateful that sometimes JRdd says

    things that make me feel like complimenting her.

    If my compliments are not pleasing on account of my poor English

    or difference of expressive style why mock me for this ?

    As I do not have an agenda of manipulation with regard to her,

    I am not overwrought if my flattery falls flat on the floor !

    Nor do I seek to ingratiate myself in some way as my aim is honest.

    So sometimes I will agree with her, sometimes challenging,

    sometimes joking.

     

    If I wanted to,

    don't you think I could be cunning and intelligent enough

    to play the game and work this forum so as to obtain

    the majority's approval and pretend to be agreeable friend of so many ?

    And do you think Krishna would be more pleased with me then ?

     

    [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-02-2001).]

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