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rishidas: The experiences I have had have always happened right around the brahma-muhurta hour, somewhere between 4 and 6 AM. When I used to live in the Temples, if I took a snap during this time ......
talasiga: What exactly were you photographing ?
rishidas:....I would sometimes have this semi-awake paralysis experience.
talasiga: ..... Exactly what sort of camera were you using ? Do think it had a short circuit ?
rishidas: I also recall that while residing in a Temple once, I heard very loud, very malicious, and very real laughter, while taking a snap during the brahma-muhurta hour.
talasiga: Do you think it was some people watching "Smile, You're on Candid Camera" ?
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Originally posted by JRdd:
About those dreams, I too have had the ones where they sit on you or choke you and you can't breathe or even chant to make them go away, and Sriula Prabhupada said would chase the ghosts away. But I found you could cry out the holy names in your head, and that dispels them pronto! One time a ghost did that and I knew I needed to chant--and loud, but couldn't get my voice. I used the strongest will power I may have ever accessed, and sat up shouting "BALARAMA!" and it was gone. One time I actually saw faces, while still awake, in a totally dark room. They were outlines of white against the blackness, coming toward me with freakish ghoulish leers, scariest things I ever saw. I left that room and chanted for hours in the night, terrified at how I still felt, but there was a hollow feeling in me, and I was afraid that the mechanical chanting would not keep them away. The devotee who stayed up with me talked to me about the potency of the Holy Names, and sincerity, and assured me of Krsna's presence and kept me going. That apartment was so haunted. I ended up sharing a different room with Jadurani for a while, and the sounds made us uneasy. One night the door opened and footsteps came in but no one was there. Talk about inspired chanting!
Compare this with the following by replacing "Tulasi" with "Holy Names":
JRdd Member posted 10-28-2001 11:48 AM
Is it okay to use Tulasi so functionally? I mean like the example of ........,and the other uses mentioned? ..... The reason I ask, and have difficulty with this, is because I have always thought of Tulasi in a devotional way, and not so functionally.
from thread:
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Originally posted by gHari:
"Can God create a rock that He cannot lift"?
Prabhupada responded something like "Yes, He will create a rock He cannot lift".
"And then He will lift it!"
If He creates a rock He cannot lift
and then proceeds to lift it,
He has <u>failed</u> to create a rock He cannot lift !
Jay Jay GiriDhar Gopaal !
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Originally posted by gHari:
"Can God create a rock that He cannot lift"?
Prabhupada responded something like "Yes, He will create a rock He cannot lift".
"And then He will lift it!"
Let us take a look at the paradigm
in Radhe's conundrum above.
Perhaps it could be represented as:-
question: Can Krishna fail so badly that He can not overcome it ?
And the answer may be:-
answer: Yes ! He can fail so badly that He cannot overcome it. And then He will overcome it !
But think about this:
If Krishna creates an insurmountable failure which He then overcomes, then the failure has not been succesful as a failure. Therefore it is a failure. The Perfect Failure.
Jay Jay Shri Krishna !
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Originally posted by animesh:
I want to change my username not because I want to have twin identity but because animesh is not my real name. Now I want to have a username which is the same as my real name. But I am not doing it for two reasons:
1. I will become a junior member.
2. You people know me by the name of animesh. So, it will be tough for you to adjust to my new username.
Actually if take on your real name
as your username you
could sign off as "{New Username} formerly Animesh".
This would address your concerns
for us softies .....
As for your concerns about acquiring
the "Junior Member" status
this is indeed a most mature concern
worthy of such a veteran member as you are.
Perhaps you should approach the Administrator.
I am sure he will find yours to be an exceptional case
and come to a most worthy decision.
I am sure that arrangements
for the registrations of new usernames
are not fanatical arrangements beyond adjustment.
Good Luck !
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Originally posted by gHari:
No, no, no. Krsna never fails.
His assertions <u>fail</u> to cover His extent.
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Krishna and His Devotee
Originally posted by gHari:
Glad that You just are,
So I can just be.
Who is the honey
and who the bee ?
Now let me see .....
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talasiga@hotmail.com
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JRdd:I have a general question. It was always my understanding that the basil we use in cooking is a totally different (but related) plant from the tulasi plant. ......... I noticed on the Internet in places (not among those I posted the links to) it talks of tulasi as being basil. I can not believe this.
talasiga: Tulsi (Ocimum sanctum) belongs in the Labiatae family and has always been classed botanically belonging in the genus Ocimum along with garden or sweet basil (Ocimum basilicum) which is, interestingly also known as St Josephswort. There is also a bush basil from Chile called Ocimum minimum and many others.
So they are botanically all related as, for example, are all the mints related to each other under Mentha genus also in the Labiatae family. Spearmint, peppermint, pennyroyal are all different species in the Mints. Botanically speaking the difference between peppermint and pennyroyal is analogous to the difference between the basil of St Joseph and the basil of Vrind.
JRdd: On the other hand, now I am also wondering if the medicinal qualities of tulasi are also in the basil plant? Last year I harvested so much basil and tried to grow it this year in my new home, and have this intense love for basil, without remembering its relationship to tulasi, so I am wondering if my often ailing body is craving its medicinal qualitiies.
talasiga: We must not assume that just because two herbs belong to the same genus their medicinal properties are the same. If we we look at peppermint and pennyroyal (two species in the mint genus), whilst they both share similar properties, pennyroyal is much more potent in some areas and attracts more contra-indications and caution with its use.
However with the Ocimums I would say that they all share similar medicinal properties. I would say that tulsi is perhaps more potent in this respect as my experience is that it is used only once or twice in an acute illnes whereas St Josephswort may be used over an extended period. It is also my experience those who do use herbs will use other basils if available before resorting to tulsi.
Yes, you would be able to obtain the known usages for basil from any one of the extant herb books so there is no need for me to list here. However, I have seen a rare reference that it "has been used for diseases of the kidney" (Potter's New Cyclopaedia of Botanical Drugs and Preparations ISBN 0 85207 197 3). I find this interesting as fear and paranoia etc are often associated with kidney problems in Eastern Medicine. This would include fearful dreams, fear of ghosts and so on.
If I were going to use sweet basil (Ocimum basilicum) for medicinal purposes I would prefer the cold extract method of preparation (herbs and flowers in water in a warm place for 8 - 12 hours) rather than an infusion with boiling water. This is a more potent way to use the herb as the delicate volatile, scent bearing oils that are at the heart of its healing properties are wholly preserved by this method.
I hope you will find this laboriously unpoetic response useful and enjoyable.
Now I have three favours to ask:
1. What is the name of the Gopi who is most expert in herbal lore?
2. When Lakshman Ji had an emergency illness (potentially fatal wound from Ravana's arrow ) why did He not accept some Tulsi instead of requiring some fruit that resulted in poor HanumanJi having to bring Him a mountain ?
3. What is the name of the Gopi who is most expert in argument ?
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talasiga@hotmail.com
(edited to correct question 2 so that
it refers to Lakshman Ji and not Lord Rama.
My sincerest apologies to Valmiki and Tulsi Das)
[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-04-2001).]
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
No one of them could speak any Portuguese, of course.
Is speaking Portuguese essential ?
My wife is Anglo-Irish ancestry and we talk to each other in English.
Do you think our marriage will improve
if we learn Portuguese ?
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this site wrongly gives genus name as
"Ocuminum"
when it should be "Ocimum"
I am also sorry that I wrote the genus name
wrongly in an earlier post as "ocimun" due to a typo .
I agree generally with Swan
and I think it is very sweet
of JRdd to adminsiter to us by providing
all these wonderful links
in the course of her overall devotional
service to the Supreme Personality of Godhead.
Thank you from the bottom of my garden !
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Was Krishna Just ????
Originally posted by radhe:
"God often fails in His workings; it is the sign of His illimitable godhead."
Krishna Just Is
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<u>Subhadra</u>
Originally posted by atma:
S.Bhagavatam Canto 10. Ch.1. Text 56:
Each year thereafter, in due course of time, Devaki, the mother of God and all the demigods, gave birth to a child. Thus she bore eight sons, one after another, and a daughter named Subhadra.
A.C Bhaktivedanta Swami,
"Abhimanyu was the son of Subhadra, Krishna'a younger sister."
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talasiga@hotmail.com
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Originally posted by jndas:
The glories of tulasi are mentioned in the Bhagavata Purana.
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Lord Krishna can be purchased by worshipping Him with tulasi:
tulasi-dala-matrena
jalasya culukena va
vikrinite svam atmanam
bhaktebhyo bhakta-vatsalah
"Shri Krishna, who is very affectionate toward His devotees, sells Himself to a devotee who offers merely a tulasi leaf and a palmful of water."
Sincere Question:
Where in the Bhagavat Puraan does it say this
and who translated like this ?
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Originally posted by jndas:
Krishna does not accept any offering without the presence of tulasi.
compare with Lord Krishna:
<u>"Whosoever offers to Me with devotion a leaf, a flower, a fruit, or water, that offering of love, of the pure heart I accept."</u>
- Bhagavad Geeta, 9:26
(Radhakrishnan 1948 translation, George Allen & Unwin Ltd ISBN 0 04 891029 5)
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Originally posted by animesh:
Dear jijaji and melvin,
Do you notice that you get demoted to the post of "junior member" from that of "senior member" when you use a new username?
Dear Animesh
It can happen to you too.
You should try it sometime.
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Originally posted by gHari:
I spend ten hours reading and reading their literature ..... Such wonderful writings from Nanak .....
MESSAGE 6:-
Yes !
Readers may see some qoutes of Guru Nanak,
on this thread:-
http://www.indiadivine.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000799.html
[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 10-30-2001).]
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valaya: MOAN...
xvi000:
What On Earth are you saying?
talasiga:
This is what grass says when you MOW it .....
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Originally posted by JRdd:
I only want to add that however approachable Tulasi may be, however approachable and compassionate the spiritual master may be, that does not warrant taking advantage by approaching them for service. This would be akin to some Christians' asking God to serve them in so many ways.
Prabhupad's (AC Bhaktivedanta Swami) Service was to spread the HariNama in the West.
How might he feel if you did not accept it?
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talasiga: you might ask your Guru whether every place in the Ganga is a Tirtha
or only certain points of CONFLUENCE.
jndas: Those who think tirthas only exist at the places of confluence are seeing only the external geography. They fail to understand the sanctity of the ganga water which is the creator of the tirthas. To them a temple on a high mountain is powerful, whereas one in their village is not; a holy place situated in a far away place (such as Rishikesh)is purifying, whereas the ganga water flowing by a neaby city (such as Calcutta) is not. They try to measure the divinity in material terms but fail, as the divinity is beyond matter.
talasiga: How foolish of me to suggest that you should ask your Guru about such a simply straightforward response as you have given. Thank you for your honourable response.
However, many years ago when I once stayed at Shree Vitthal Ashram in Hrishikesh I was told that all the water for that ashram was pumped up from the Ganga. I had no qualms
about boiling that water for my daal or for my daily drinking supply.
As you yourself have said, "divinity is beyond matter" so do think that all the ashram residents were boiling the divinity or boiling the matter ?
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Originally posted by jndas:
Though these questions are not sincere (and only asked to try to show others as wrong), I will answer them anyway in case anyone else is interested in these points.
I am saddened that my friendly input
has elicited the prejudice that my questions are not sincere.
Or, perhaps, insincerity is a new phenomenon for you
and sometimes you identify it wrongly.
Either way
kindly reconsider your position.
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talasiga@hotmail.com
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<u>Look How You Have Grown</u>
Originally posted by valaya:
groan...
!!!
Did I hear a little GROWL ?
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JRdd:
Yes to both--as long as they are used devotionally or--in the case of emergencies--with caution and discernment .....
talasiga:
1. Show me an "emergency" that can only be medically resolved by ocimun sanctum.
2. What emergency requires japamala of tulsi wood ?
JRdd:
......keeping in the consciousness that tulasi is a pure devotee of the Lord.
talasiga: Tulsi Devi is Grace ever compassionate to fellow devotees. Her self-sacrifice in the Bhakti Marga is not even surpassed by Sita Devi the epitome of self sacrifice. She is ever approachable and certainly not Durga (remote).
JRdd: And as to why this is not in the health section, my guess is because the discussion is about a pure devotee of the Lord, and acceptable uses.
talasiga: Your discernment is so delightful ! My wonderings on this issue are now settled. Thank you.
JRdd: We are not talking about rules.
talasiga: Indeed ! Yet I wonder why one poster kept referring to "smritis" without sourcing them.
JRdd: We are talking about how to respect the pure devotee.
talasiga: I get the sense that even if the scriptures said it was honourable to use Holy Basil when cooking daal, neither you nor Valaya would do this. I note a level of a love beyond respect in both your positions.
In turn do you think She loves us more or respects us more ?
Will you deny Her Service by refusing Her Healing ?
[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 10-30-2001).]
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MESSAGE 5:-
Look how you have grown since your last Vision !
But why has not your Vision grown ?
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MESSAGE 4:-
Perhaps you have missed me
when you only saw anger
in the Taxi Driver
Perhaps you missed me
when you only saw prejudice
in the despair of my Clumsiest Devotee
The Mind of the Fanatic
in Spiritual Discussions
Posted
compare with
valaya Member
posted 11-02-2001 10:07 AM
Nor do I believe someone's lack of expertise in the English language should be mocked.
see:-
http://www.indiadivine.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000844.html