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Originally posted by atma:
Madhuri acting like Sita insults Lord Rama and Lakshman. I found it very offensive.
You have been offended by a movie !
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Originally posted by jndas:
Those who want to live in celebate homosexual relationships risk fall down into sinful activity, as there is no religious manner for them to dovetail their weakness. Why take unnecessary risks?
1. A NON-SEXUAL loving Friendship between two same gender persons need not have a homosexual base.
2. That even such a refined relationship may be "tainted" by Eros at some level, by virtue of its material situation, need not impede its potential for dovetailing with spiritual devotion. This, particularly where such a friendship
a) is sanctioned by guidance of a spiritual mentor;
b) arises from the context of a spiritual pursuit;
c) promotes the furtherance of the spiritual pursuit.
3. Anyone can fall from anywhere anytime.
It is better to fall in the line of one's native destiny than to be a king on a foreign throne. So, have courage nine9, and remember:
One can never fall
lower than His Feet.
Where does perfection begin?
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Originally posted by amanpeter:
Those with little knowledge of what intimacy actually is, or even the desire to experience it personally, intentionally isolating themselves and avoiding emotional involvement with others, should not be expected to be taken seriously when they comment on relationships that they cannot help seeing in other than a sexual context. They are more to be pitied than condemned.
condemned to pity
[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-02-2001).]
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Originally posted by shvu:
Now if someone can identify it's indian name, the job is as good as done.
Oh Shvuuuu......
Why find an "indian name"?
When you take vow sanyaas
you can call your vada
"saffron goop" !
goopi talasiga@hotmail.com
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Originally posted by rand0M aXiS:
Who is your "guru". He condones your homosex lifestyle?
Two questions with only one question mark.
..... hmmm
Dr Quack
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Hey !
You don't need to be a Hindu
to see Krishna
Don't have to feed yourself fish
to see Christ
You don't even have to be Gay
to be happy
There are no stone lions
at your heart
and
No pandas keeping you apart
from the mainline
to the Lord.
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Originally posted by Jagat:
Prabhupada thought highly of his American disciples and they also thought highly of themselves
*"fly like an eagle
into the wind"
The HIGH THINKING was probably already there
before Prabhupada arrived in America.....
Don't you think ?
* America
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Originally posted by Gauracandra:
That was not appropriate. Lets avoid personal insults. Just one man's opinion.
Gauracandra
That was just a bit of random crap
probably prompted by a reaction
against anal sex
- understandable
but, yes,
"inappropriate"
because this thread is substantially
about "homosexuality" as regards, not
sexual practice but, loving intimacy in same gender relationships - a level of intimacy
traditionally relegated to heterosexual relationships.
Surely anyone who has been involved with any stream of devotional or spiritual life must be able to appreciate, or, at least, conceive as reasonable, loving intimacy between people existing beyond the strictures of sexual practice (body), the biology of gender (body), the traditional norms of society (aggregate bodies) ?
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Originally posted by leyh:
we are spirit souls and not our bodies.
Yes
and some spirit souls
are treated like female bodies
were treated in the middle ages !
Aham Brahmasmi
but in a female body
you need not even ask me !
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Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence. This is particularly relevant when considering a field of possibility or probability.
For instance, it is possible for lightning to kill a human or other animal and probable that in a big storm lightning has, in fact, killed some creature somewhere. Absence of evidence does not disprove this probability.
There is every chance that some unfound lightning struck body is lying somewhere.
However, in the case of the sun emitting black light: this would, on the basis of PROBABILITY, be accepted as impossible. In this situation the absence of evidence for black sunlight could be seen to disprove black sunlight as the absence of evidence, ipso facto, supports the probable impossibility.
Homosexuality or transgender (transcended gender) relationships probably existed in any society. So, notwithstanding that a culture may not have a specific word for the phenomenon and uses other words metaphorically or euphemistically, there is a field of probability that allows the absence of evidence to not amount to evidence of absence.
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PS see also:
http://members.aol.com/sabrin1315/mohini.htm
http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/parkwood/388/Mohini-Attam.html
[This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-01-2001).]
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
..... maya ....apart from Brahman. This is purest mayavada!!!
Look !
It is the Bouncing Bhakta from Brasil !
Even so, I must agree with him.
(for the moment....)
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Originally posted by Maitreya:
And I am the basis of the impersonal Brahman, which is immortal, imperishable and eternal and is the constitutional position of ultimate happiness.Bg 14.27
The jiva can merge or not merge.And as we see from the above verse Krishna is beyond 'That', being the basis of it.
1. brahmano hi pratishtthaa 'ham
goes the first line of Bhagavad Geeta 14:27.
where is the word "impersonal" qualifying the Brahman here ? "Exactly please".
Before you answer, please see preceding verse 26, "He who serves Me with unfailing loving devotion......is fit for becoming Brahman." Now, if this Brahman must be read as innately impersonal, as your reading of verse 27 suggests, is the Lord propounding Bhakti as a means to the "impersonal" Brahman?
2. The soul is "aham brahmasmi" - of Brahman. The soul is eternal as is Brahman.
a) So, again the question, "What is it that merges, or does not merge, with the Brahman"?
b) What is it that is Eternal and yet is purported to perish by merging with the Eternal ?
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Originally posted by Maitreya:
1. Who is that 'guru' atma.
2. I don't swing in that direction.You'll have to find someone else to "bless".
Darling! I am not offering to bless anything.
It is YOU who are inquiring after "that 'guru'"
- remember?
I have read that zinc supplements are good
for the memory and
the prostate.
Get well soon !
Ta taa aa .....
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Originally posted by Satyaraja dasa:
And please explain the meaning of the statement: “One can appreciate the glorious nature of the Brahman effulgence without merging into it.”
Yes, this needs some explanation.
Finger pointing will not do.
What is it that can merge, or not merge,in That beyond which nothing exists?
And a question for a medical practitioner and philosopher:
Is the POOR DIFFERENTIATION (merging) in CELLULAR IDENTITY which is a feature of cancer
analogous
to the POOR DIFFERENTIATION (merging) in SPIRITUAL IDENTITY which is a purported feature of sayujya mukti ?
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Maitreya: Who is that 'guru' atma.
Jijaji: I am curious as well...who is this Guru..?
Hey ! You guys !
Looking to have
Something blessed ?
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Originally posted by Maitreya:
We must just see what is being pointed out.Simple as that.
Cease to analyse,
What a surprise!
Before our eyes
A full Moon Rise.
Certainly.
Now apply what you have said to Melvin's
postings about the Hare Krishna virus
and to
Satyaraja's "double speak".
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Originally posted by Gauracandra:
Nope, not going to happen. Lets see you "cleansed" the next time you hear her laughing at the passing of Srila Gour Govinda Maharaj and attacking his purity. I'm glad she is gone. We will all be much purer without her hate.
The Divine One
looks for our goodness
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Gauracandra
I think Mark was raising
transgender loving intimacy
devoid of sexual practices
Your focus on homosexual practices
is off the Mark
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Originally posted by Gauracandra:
an insignificant person named Jaya Sri Radhey. A person who pollutes everywhere she goes ....
You have been polluted
by her insignificance
Seeing her greatness
you will be cleansed
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What is a Sheriff
without a Hood ?
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Originally posted by JRdd:
P.S. Fellows? Only fellows?
Yes !
Why not ?
Maid Marian is among them.....
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Originally posted by JRdd:
Audarya the Godship:
Demon crazy overboard!
over bored by aparadh
we applaud
Good rid dance!!!
Can we dance
without rocking the boat?
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Originally posted by Gauracandra:
Mr. JNDas is the sheriff.
And who is the banned Robin Hood ?
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Originally posted by Gauracandra:
These forums are not a democracy.
This forum is a good fellowship
known as Audarya Fellowship
We are the FELLOWS
and democracy
is the
SHIP !
able seaperson Talasiga
Some useful advices pure devotee.
in Spiritual Discussions
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quadrophonic ?