talasiga

"Sometimes it is better to do nothing than to waste time " - ancient Oriental proverb

As I formulated: "We are not this body + <u>we are not without this body</u> = simultaneously one + different" where, Undifferentiated Brahman (Nirguna) = Satchidananda, and Differentiated Brahman (Saguna)= Satchidananda + Vigraha then, conclusive formulation above reads as: Undifferentiated Brahman + Vigraha = simultaneously one and different. ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

<u>Topic: Medicinal Properties of Tulasi</u> The truly spiritual or poetic sense is not a flight from the heart of a matter but, rather, the reflection of its very essence. The essence of homeopathy is the principle that "like cures like" and the truly poetic sensibility will explore that essence rather than <u>escape</u> it. Similarly, the essence of spiritual life is reciprocity in relationships between the Divine and the devotees and amongst the devotees and the truly spiritual sensibility revels in this reciprocity rather than eclipsing it with some "one way" heirarchical dogma. ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Nirguna Brahman = Satchidananda = no attributes Saguna Brahman = Satchidananda Vigraha = with attributes IE: Impersonal Supreme = Being Knowing Bliss = One Personal Supreme = Being Knowing Bliss with Form (Body)= differentiation Thus: Personal Supreme MINUS Vigraha = Impersonal Supreme (Satchidananda Vigraha MINUS Vigraha = Satchidananda) Therefore: We are not this body + <u>we are not without this body</u> = simultaneously one + different [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-08-2001).]

FAITH depends on FEELING LITERALISM on the WORD The feeling love is invisible in its presence

Did you ask the "manjaris" about this ?

"homeopathy..... School of medicine founded by Dr S.C.E. Hahnemann (1755-1843) in 1796 in Philadelphia, based on the theory that large doses of drugs that produce symptoms of a disease in healthy people will cure the same symptoms when administered in small amounts. This is loosely based on the theory that 'like cures like'." (from Edition 14 Taber's Cyclopedic Medical Dictionary) QUESTION for Dasanudas: In light of this explanation, <u>what exactly is the illness that you purport is caused by ocimum sanctum that is cured by it in a "homeopathic potency"</u> ? [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-07-2001).]

talasiga: Dear Dasanudas - you appear to have had some problems quoting me (particularly the excerpt from Lord Chaitanya which steered my message) in your last post so here it is follwed by your own comments Dasanudas: Bush flower remedy. Clues from the Muse Just the names of Vrnda devi on the tongue Will heal an ailing heart Just feel her homeopathic potency talasiga: Your response warrants an examination of a) whether the Holy Herb can appropriately be the subject of <u>utility</u> requiring a consideration of homeopathic potency CONCURRENTLY with the <u>piety</u> towards the Holy Herb professed by some. b) the modus operandi of homeopathy. However, as there is a spring storm brewing in Eastern Australia at this time (c. 11 PM, Tuesday night) I must switch off now. CLICK [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-06-2001).]

Lord Chaitanya Mahaprabhu, "There are not even hard and fast rules for chanting these names....." No rules for the Holy Names to dance upon the tongue But may not the tongue host the Holy Herb unless all the songs are sung ? . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com . . . [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-05-2001).]

Ancient report recommendations say: "Upon a friend convey your sorrows." . . . . . . . .

Ancient etherport instruction: "Passengers are reminded to declare all happiness before departure." . . .

Topic: Recommending JNDas

Ancient bullseye precept say: "The smile that hits its target falls with it." . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Why search for Him in the Bible He moves with the Hungry When you next feed Him Ask Him to feed you.

How dare you PINCH my PUNCH line ?

Yes ! The New Testament Sacrament of Bread and Wine replaces the Old Testament sacrifice of flesh and blood .....

Hey Marco ! Do you play Polo ?

Dasanudas Dasanudas Where you been so long ? Dasanudas Dasanudas Where you been so long ? I got a flute that tootles I got a bell that rings Have you been house moving ? How sad the pine hurst sings .....

<u>[ i ][ b ]LOVE </u> Hey Valaya ! Very hip topic heading: I be LOVE be I I notice you put I and be in brackets. Pretty deep ..... . . . Personal Info: "Talasiga" is my nom de plume Love is my inkwell and My writings are a blot

IMPLICATION 13: She feels the separation when the Ferry goes Feels the union when the Ferry comes and She feels the River at Her toes. But can She feel His feelings as He watches Her waiting at the shore ? . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

jndas: In Vrindavana everyone serves the Lord in Madhurya rasa. talasiga: Even a light study of "The Nectar of Devotion" (ISBN 0-912776072-2 hardbound) by AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad tends to contradict the above statement. See especially Part 3. Shaanta-rasa is deemed foundational and inherent in the other four "primary" rasa-s. Clearly the Gopas in Vrindaban are mostly sakhya-rati and Yasodha and Nandan are vaatsalya-rati. PRABHUPAD:.....in the Eleventh Canto of Shr[ee]mad-Bh[aa]gvatam, Lord K[rishn]a personally instructs Uddhava like this: "The state of being established in My personal form is called [shaa]nta-rasa, and without being situated in this position, no one can advance to actual pure devotional service." In other words, no one can be situated in the personal feature of the Supreme Personality of Godhead without being situated at least in [shaa]nta-rasa. (The Nectar of Devotion at end of Chapter 35) jndas: The foundation of those rasas in Vrindavana is madhurya. talasiga: This is quite a beautiful proposition and intuitively I find it acceptable. Prabhupad's comments on Lord Krishna's pronouncements about the precedence of shhanta-rasa need not preclude special pre-eminence of madhura-rasa in the very special Vrindaban. However the statement, "In Vrindavana everyone serves the Lord in Madhurya rasa" must continue to be incorrect even in the light of the proposition that "The foundation of those rasas in Vrindavana is madhurya". For instance just because shaanta-rasa is foundational to the other rasa-s doesn't mean that you can say, "The Gopis serve the Lord in shaanta" ! And in pursuance of the proposition for the pre-eminence of madhura: Neither can you correctly say, that, as a generality, "In Vrindaban, Yashoda serves the Lord in madhura-rasa" ! [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-02-2001).]

<u>Unfanatical Arrangements for Veteran Member Animesh to Have a New Username Without Acquiring Junior Status</u> Animesh !!! See, see, what did I tell you ? There you are then and what about a chocolate for me ? Huh ?

When you have sent me 30 or 40 e-mails you will become one of my "senior corespondents". Then I might consider getting "personal". But don't hold out for it: after all I might be a <u>robot</u> that marco has not yet detected !

Even a light study of "The Nectar of Devotion" (ISBN 0-912776072-2 hardbound) by AC Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupad tends to contradict the above statement. See especially Part 3. <u>Shaanta Ras</u> is deemed foundational and inherent in the other four "primary" rasa-s. Clearly the Gopas in Vrindaban are mostly sakhya-rati and Yasodha and Nandan are vaatsalya-rati.

valaya:Some are able to discern the difference between using for material medicinal benefits and taking spiritual shelter. talasiga: Indeed ! Both sickness and the seeing of ghosts are tamasic. One may take spiritual shelter from them. valaya: Also, the Holy Names have no restrictions in this Age of Kali. talasiga: The recommendation for <u>anyone</u> is to chant from the <u>loving heart</u>. Does this include include chanting from the <u>fearful kidneys</u> or the <u>angry liver</u> ? valaya: Any offenses incurred by chanting are absolved through continued chanting. talasiga: How did the topic of "offense" arise ? I don't recall raising it. valaya: What's the matter, Talasiga, JRdd not responding gratefully enough to your condescending `compliments`? talasiga: I am grateful that sometimes JRdd says things that make me feel like complimenting her. If my compliments are not pleasing on account of my poor English or difference of expressive style why mock me for this ? As I do not have an agenda of manipulation with regard to her, I am not overwrought if my flattery falls flat on the floor ! Nor do I seek to ingratiate myself in some way as my aim is honest. So sometimes I will agree with her, sometimes challenging, sometimes joking. If I wanted to, don't you think I could be cunning and intelligent enough to play the game and work this forum so as to obtain the majority's approval and pretend to be agreeable friend of so many ? And do you think Krishna would be more pleased with me then ? [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-02-2001).]