talasiga

My dearmost Satyaraja Dasa If you be vegetarian Where is the danger in touching the food with your hands - Do garbanzos bite ? And what of urinating and defecating on the ground ? Would you have it that they be emitted into the high air ? Why , where then would we place our farts ? Don't you know that the Vedanta is silent about common sense ? It is common sense that keeps the world and Vedanta is what ends it .......... ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Dear Friends and Maitreya From his very first posting we know that "Faithless Devotee" already 1. chants "Hare Krsna" but his "heart still hasn't been captured" (cf. with verse 2 of Shikshaashtak of Lord Chaitanya). 2. knows that having the same degree of faith and belief as some may purport to have "would just be a miracle". 3. discerns so many perplexities "that get in the way of the philosophies validity". 4. queries that the conception of a "higher consciousness may just be some sort of secondary maya keeping us from another truth of some inconceivable nature". 5. is gracious enough to wish all well on their spiritual paths. So .............. what more can we teach him ? . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-29-2001).]

Silliness is the ART which frustrates impostors and amuses the wise . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-29-2001).]

Dear Valaya: valaya: Please forgive any wrong assumptions or misperceptions on my part. I do like what you write, though often I'm not at all sure of my ability to grasp much of your meaning. talasiga: It is not my meanings that need to be grasped. The "poems" may be mine but I can neither own their meanings nor ever know them all. I can only respectfully ask that you approach the serious ones openly and honourably. Thank You. _______ valaya: You are obviously a deep, sensitive devotee and that's why I originally reached out for a closer personal connection by phone. talasiga: I am sorry but I dont get much deeper in communication than most of what I write here. Please see URL=http://www.indiadivine.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000017.html]http://www.indiadivine.com/ubb/Forum6/HTML/000017.html which you have ignored. ______ valaya: I sense that you may appreciate the value of painful separation in love which enables each one of us to individually relate emotionally with Srimati Radharani. talasiga: I have no choice. ______ valaya: That, as you and everyone else here must know by now, is my sole area of interest which I see as the key to everything else. talasiga: Personally, I find your tendency to align your deepest feelings to some stifling dialectic a little frightening. ______ valaya: What does bother me is that sometimes a poetic response may not be appropriate and can even seem trite. Certainly, too much of even a good thing can provoke a negative reaction. talasiga: Sometimes I am bothered by this also. Actually I do not mostly set out to write some poetry. I tend to respond to things from, what I would best describe as, an intuitive point and, in honouring that intuitive response, try not to clutter it too much with a lecture style of writing. This honouring process may incidentally result in "poetry" or poetic prose. ______ valaya: Do you really want to communicate or just be cute? talasiga: Show me anything significantly cute and I will respond to this. ______ valaya: Others here use flowery glorification of gurus, or vast scriptural quotations, to avoid truly personal sharing. talasiga: I cannot answer for them. Generally, that style of writing does not suit me but I cannot condemn it. Krishna may require such a style of me sometime. ______ valaya: After awhile those that appear to be refusing/unable to go deeper on a more intimate level start appearing to me as more like Krsna than Radhika, and my concern is only with Her. talasiga: From the perspective of my personal experience, this is a very limited appreciation of Radha Krishna. Regretably, as I do not have any qualification to be your Guru I cannot help you in any deliberate capacity. ______ valaya: Since I believe we are all part and parcel of the internal potency personified as Sri Radha, those who hold onto Krsna exclusively and actually begin to emulate Him, even at His most charming, quickly become distasteful to me. talasiga: Please trust your Intuition. If you intuit that I am emulating Him, avoid me like the plague. At another time, Intuition may review the situation for you and you may see me differently if at all relevant. ______ valaya: This includes provocative teasing beyond a certain point... talasiga: I don't think comical responses such as "if you dont like what I write you will hate me when I ring" are provacative. There is even an element of self deprecatory humour in them. Any humour does not diminish the heartfelt truth in them. <u>If the truth is unpalatable it is not the teasing that makes it so.</u> ______ valaya: My position is absolutely clear: when Krsna's `playfulness` brings pain and tears to Radharani and Her girlfriends, including His abandoning them to leave Vrndavana, my sympathies lie ONLY with them; while my anger, resentment, bitterness, etc. focus ENTIRELY on HIM. I am not at all interested in hearing any philosophical or shastric explanation that these are just `playful pastimes`. For those that are involved, they are very serious indeed. At least that's my reality. talasiga: This may be a gutsy focus for some gestalt therapy session. Emotional integration need never be an impediment to spiritual living ______ valaya: Maybe when I become more purified, I will see things in a wholly different perspective. For now, I take this as deadly serious and my entire emotional self is firmly committed at the expense of everything else, including close relationships with other human beings (family, friends, romance, etc.). talasiga: This tends to CONTRADICT your proclaimed striving to establish a closer personal connection with me..... So, need we continue further with this ? Your unphony correspondent Talasiga [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-28-2001).]

Oh ! Begging your pardon, Sahib ! I hope I didn't startle you. Ah ! But of course ! You naughty naughty actor you - so many months you have fooled me.

Personally speaking some of the things I have seen people eating in certain parts of the world I would not even touch with my feet

yeah thats right and still screaming "dude" hey somebody please give this kid some goat's dude

Non non non Cherie Sirona Gauracandra never said he didn't have the right. She just said she was startled by seeing him do this. I agree: of course American actors are humans. Startling but true ! ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Getting paranoid in your youth ? Hey kiddo ! Your nappy is over your mouth and I'll change it as often as I have to (but never in advance) Yawn zzzzzzzzzzz [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-28-2001).]

Well put up the mast and unfurl the sail.....

What Seduction ! You have taken me Where I've not been ! Following my fallen heart Under the waters of ecstasy I see weightless heart moves freely. . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Prayer 6 (prayer of the confused) Hail Self of the Selfish ! Infuse my confusion With the strength of refusal Keep at bay friends in wolve's clothing ! ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

No, I don't think so. Actually, definitely not. Just a fall on shelter. Yes, they are sirens on the reef. Pull harder on your oar.....

If you don't like what I write You will hate me when I ring ! ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

In a trial the plea of non compos mentis may variously go towards exempting from trial or towards mitigating guilt or lessening the penalty of the person purported to be "not of sound mind". NOTA BENE: For this purpose, the being "not of sound mind" must be to the extent that the prosecuted does not have the capacity to understand or appreciate the nature or quality of the alleged crime. It does not simply mean someone of insane disposition. In the circumstances, your continued use of the term is incorrect and when correctly understood tends to undermine the very point about culpability that you are putting forward. ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Dear Suryaz <u>The Importance of Language (as you say)</u> 1. It is not just the spelling which you have still got wrong but also your pretension to a meaningful use of the term, "not of sound mind", whose application in your arguments appears very muddled, if not totally incorrect. 2. Your statement: "I will not let it happen again" and the statement (notionally within the ambit of your negative criticism): "I will not let her seduce again", have remarkably similar syntax. Namely, Subject will not let Object(other) do X. (ie chaste S VERSUS evil O) Your linguistic bud ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-27-2001).]

The whole world is ringing And you are so hung up on the telephone ? ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Ah ! Randomji ! It is so very good to see you are not bringing your boots into the spiritual discussion room any more. But, PLEASE, you must be leaving your <u>SANDALS</u> at the door also ! Thanking you.....

Making Headway is When we are saying less and hearing more ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

It is actually non compos mentis, (latin) meaning "not of sound mind", mostly used in legal parlance. Sometimes people use such terms to flag their neo graduate status but this characteristic is often ironed out by the process of life after academia. (Of course, I don't know if this is the case here). Most linguistic experts are not in favour of "latinisms" in common parlance unless there is no adequate substitute for a particular latin term and unless they are used precisely and correctly. Throwing in a bit of latin and then spelling it wrongly tends to burn the affectation. some references: Osborn's Concise Law Dictionary ISBN 0-421-29680-1 Pbk Longman Guide to English Usage ISBN 0-582-55619-8 ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 09-27-2001).]

Whats that ? Who's that giggling and carrying on you ask ? Hey don't worry about her - she's just the court jester in the Doggerel Palace.....

Dearmost Sirona If the above websites don't satisfy Plant a neem tree near your window Watch closely your dreams Tree the Tor Tree the Tor ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Honesty is the seduction of sound by silence ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

For every two who bathe in friendship Always one other whose heart does burn ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

No No No No NO No No No No No No No No NO No No No No No NO NnnnnnnnnnooooOh ! Wrong question my dear Rishi...... You should ask, <u>"What is your agenda ?"</u> It is more politically correct and more meeting like, if you know what I mean. ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com