talasiga

THOUGHT 1:- You are easily puzzled.

Yes. And this usage of "Arya[n]" is consistent with the Sanskritic usage which, again, is not a racial based usage.

the use of the term "Aryan" on this thread appears to revolve around a 19th century usage of it to denote a racial or genetic grouping and such usage culminated in the unfortunate turn the term had under Nazism. The modern usage of the term is to denote those <u>languages of Indo-European origin</u> ie. from Sanskrit, Ancient Persian, Ancient Greek, Latin, Old German etc Please see a good dictionary. See also a MODERN anthropology text book of your choosing.

A bit like the land mass of Europe ? A land mass with a mass of peoples and traditions no doubt ? Ever heard of "European Culture", "European History" etc ? When did Europe become <u>A</u> country ? Does it have to be a country to exist ? Huh ? You just don't get it, do you ? Ah well ..... BTW, you didn't mention the <u>Portuguese</u> and the <u>French</u> colonies in India. Probably, too much of a big picture issue.

Hind: a female deer Yes ! All glories to the Golden Hind of Dear India ! See how she ranges across Her land Crossing pathetic man-made borders drawn in the sand .....

We can apply the same order of hair splitting distinction to France Germany Poland Russia Italy China etc etc No decent historian would disagree that there is a contiguity of national identity in terms of history and culture with all these countries regardless of their changing borders, different administrations, disunity and so on at various points in time. History, is by definition, a "big picture" discipline. The details will afford greater meaning for you when you can see the big picture. Try: "A History of India" Herman Kulke & Dietmar Rothermund ISBN 0-415-04799-4 [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-19-2001).]

Your win and defeat paradigm tends to contradict your own espoused worthy approach which you set out in the "Audarya Fellowship" thread at:- http://www.indiadivine.com/ubb/Forum1/HTML/000336.html Also, your citings from other threads to denounce Satyaraja, are potentially misleading as they are taken out of context, and particularly as you have not provided the readers with appropriate HTML references so they can see for themselves. Satyaraja's contributions on this thread, however disagreeable his point of view, have been generous in their chivalrous and stimulating manner. Often it is not PRIDE but intellectual HUMILITY that prompts some to have the courage to take such views for the sake of developmental discussions without regard to the unjustified personal unpopularity that such views might bring them. The important thing is that the discussions remain relevant factually, philosophically or poetically) good spirited, and free from rude coarse language and untrue slanderous comments. Such challenges from Satyaraja should be seen as opportunities for his antagonists to polish their discursive skills as devotional service. [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-19-2001).]

Now, what do we have here ? Bhaktivinoda Acharya said this way before 1947 but according to Suryaz India didn't exist before 1947 ..... forget PBS try QED !

OKAY ! You tie my left hand an I'll tie your right !

Tarun [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 01-07-2002).]

Howz abouts some of his poems, Jijaji ? Please ?

And some do not need scripture to promote their love of God.

Ageed. I remember suckling at my mother's breast. I also remember being sick with asthma when I was using a bottle. Recently my aged mother told me that, at 6 months, I was put on cow's milk (because of some ill health she was experiencing) and I developed asthma. Have been allergic to dairy since then (yoghourt included. In those days, in Fiji, fresh milk still warm from Mother Cow, was delivered by the dairyman himself in billy cans. It was very rich cream milk, unpasteurised and our family would boil it first thing for "hygiene" considerations. According to Henry Bieler, "Food is Your Best Medicine", boiling of milk (even pasteurising) destroys the superior quality of the raw milk proteins and renders them somewhat harmful. My two children who are now fully grown were breast fed for at least 18 months and have not "inherited" any of their parent's physiological weaknesses. Also, no starch foods (particularly grains, pasta and other flour based foods) during this period except gentle vegetable starches such as potato. And definitely NO SALT !!

Excess mineral salt intake (common in India) depletes calcium. As does excessively high meat intake..... [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-19-2001).]

Mine is translated as, "<u>Vain</u> discussion should not be undertaken ..." (my underlining) from "Bhaktis[oo]tras of N[aa]rada" translated by Nandalal Sinha ISBN 81-215-0827-4 (Munshiram Manoharlal Publishers P/L)

Dear Leyh Friend of you know who On the sliding sleigh: Where did you get this translation ? I am interested in the source of your info. My translation says something a little, but significantly, different. Thank You.

Just come to the decks and see ! Swans to the starboard, swans to the portside And ducks to the starboard, ducks to the portside ! . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-15-2001).]

The Ferry of Devotion Parts the River from shore to shore Yet see how the waters are still undivided ! . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Poor gHari Asks one question Gets three in return !

Can you part with Separation ?

Those who know Him Know not where to avoid Him. Those who know wickedness Will flee it everywhere. Those who are wise know this. . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

Can you imagine jelebi-s without the concentric spaces ? They'd just be saffron lumps . Who would stuff their faces then When sweetness no longer corrals the little voids in our life ? . . . ------------------ talasiga@hotmail.com

As a seasonal fruitarian for over 30 years with some considerable experiences in healing and mitigation of the effects of serious illnesses with the application of dietary healing and other natural complementary systems, I would be inclined to view any such effects from the eating of mangoes as a cleansing crisis triggered by the healing potency of the fruit. The systematic application of a natural cleansing regime would be likely to cleanse such a body to an extent that the mango would no longer trigger such a cleansing crisis. When I was a child in tropical Fiji Islands we had several mango trees in our urban backyard which bore munificiently. Also my mother's relatives would bring us bags of mangoes from their farm. Naturally we gorged ourselves with the fruits. None of us got boils. However it was noticeable that children who usually ate little fruit and whose diets were heavily dependent on rice and other starchy foods, excessively salty accompaniments and oily foods tended to get tropical ulcers more consistently than others. In summer when I am eating mostly fruits I often enjoy raw bitter melon vitamised (blenderised) with tomato, origano, mint and lemon juice. Another simple but delicious way is to steam slices in water and douse with lemon juice before serving - no frying, no salt. For people who aren't into some strict natural dietary regime I would suggest this as a guideline (and not a rule): 1. don't mix raw juicy fruits (Satvic) with cooked foods (Tamasic). 2. eat such fruits on an empty stomach especially breakfast at least 30 minutes after your morning glass of water. 3. can be eaten with some raw nuts and/or good live yoghourt/laban etc if one can tolerate dairy. Never with anything starchy albeit raw (eg rolled oats etc).

talasiga: The essence of homeopathy is the principle that "like cures like" and the truly poetic sensibility will explore that essence rather than escape it. talasiga: The "principle" is not an "instruction" and "essence" is not an "ingredient". Try a good dictionary next time. Or, better still, start at square one and find a different monkey ..... [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-08-2001).]

Bilkul ! Satyaraja Babaji ! Bilkul ! By Lord's Grace, one need not even go near any Vedaantic text to know this..... [This message has been edited by talasiga (edited 11-08-2001).]