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sathya sai claims to be an avataar of shiva

 

 

He revealed that the Sai Avatar is a triple incarnation of the Shiva-Shakthi Principle – Shiva as Shirdi Sai Baba, Shiva and Parvathi embodied as Sri Sathya Sai Baba and the Shakthi Principle that will incarnate as Prema Sai in the Mandya District of the state of Karnataka.

http://www.srisathyasai.org.in/Pages...troduction.htm

Offensive all the way; this claim.

I remember reading a book where he claims he is Rama and krishna.Now, it appears things have changed.

Take a look at this blog

http://bdsteel.tripod.com/More/doss2claims.htm

See how he twists Bhagavadgita verse and says

"the wicked will not be destroyed"

I thought he claimed to be an avtar of shiva.

You assume too many things; don't you?.

There was a Tantrik in my grand father's village who used to cure(free of charge) people suffering from snake and scorpion bites.

Too bad those people didn't consider him an avtar. :D

HKs are far better than the pseudo-Hindus who snipe at everyone.

If you don't mind Here is my view.

HKs are far better than the pseudo-Hindus who are derisive of hinduism.Hks are atleast loyal to their faith unlike the neohindus.

Malice toward one and all.

Lol.Example of personal attacks.

So do you have a proble.Just look at the amount of people praying to shirdi sai baba.

He is talking about Puttaparthi Saibaba who claims to be an avathar of Rama and krishna.

Are you challenging their faith.He must be some avtar..

Must be..hmmm.I have a problem if Puttaparthi Saibaba claims to be an Avtar of vishnu in the line of Rama and krishna.It is an insult.Do you get it.

I find the following in bible(Nt) to support what jeffster said in post 14

Matthew 15:24: "But he [Jesus] answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel.

. i just showed them the incorrect interpretation of the word ...a-vidhi .

Here are the translations of Avidhi

abnormal, anomalous,perverted,anomaly,aberration.

May be you can provide a better translation with reference.

http://spokensanskrit.de/index.php?script=HK&tinput=avidhi&country_ID=&trans=Translate&direction=AU

: They are right, and they do not need to provide any evidence to back it up.

I find the Hks slightly better than the neohindus here.

If you question any neohindu here they/he will go berserk and start personal attacks and worse trash entire hinduism if you don't agree with the version of his guru/mentor.

The neohindus are completely sure of what they say but if you question them then hell breaks loose.

Sorry, but I don't take instructions from people who claim to God. Especially when they can't get a decent web page. :-)

Hahahahahaha.

Why not read what God told about Descending on to the earth?.

Gita 4:6: Although I am unborn and My transcendental body never deteriorates, and although I am the Lord of all sentient beings, I still appear in every millennium in My original transcendental form.

4:7 Whenever and wherever there is a decline in religious practice, O descendant of Bharata, and a predominant rise of irreligion--at that time I descend Myself.

4:8: In order to deliver the pious and to annihilate the miscreants, as well as to reestablish the principles of religion, I advent Myself millennium after millennium.

Brendan,

In Hinduism one relates to god with love and reverence.

I am at a loss to understand the friendship concept.

Are you by any chance referring to Psalm 25:14 NLT?.

Show the Love that you preach. Don't preach the Love.

Can't you understand satire .

There is a small ceremony called VRATYASTOMA.

You can get in touch with nearest hindu organisations like VHP or Arya samaj.

1 Corinthians 13:1-13, " Love is patient. Love is kind. It does not envy. It doesn`t boast. It is not proud. It is not rude. It is not self-seeking. It is not easily angered. It keeps no record of wrongs.

Plenty of love in corinthians; forget for a moment leveticus, duetoronomy etc

Corinthians 16:22,10:7, 10:10, 7:21- 23

I have heard of sadhana yoga or sadhana bhakti but never sadhana 'hindu'.

Hindu sadhanas.You haven't heard it?

That is until I read the 11th chapter of Bhagavad-gita where God's fearsome feature as time was consuming all the world's, crushing everyone between his teeth..

That is to make Arjuna feel detached from his actions in performing his duties as a kshatriya who assembled to fight.

So we have a choice of relating to that feature of God (death is said to be God to the atheist) or a more attractive feature, like Syamasundara.

How do you relate to that feauture?.Jatasya maranam dhruvam.That is what krishna is telling arjuna in chapter 11.

Krishna gave options to reach him,By worshipping him in his form(as krishna) or the formless god bg:12:1-4.

That is not a jealous god.

Ok thanks for comment.

 

But my doubt is to recite a mantra or other deity of saraswate I have to creativity in business. You know a mantra?

Saraswati is a giver of knowledge.Knowledge in itself may not help in business.

Sadhana Hindu? Sorry never heard of that.

Then it must not be existing.

Didn't quite shake off the image of a tyrant , brutal and jealous god.Did you?.

Let me pretend to be brave and try to answer your queries to the best of my knowledge.

What is the beginning of Hindu love and walking with the divine as friends? What about sin and being separated from friendship?

Taking Bhagavadgita as reference (Bg 12:01-4), Hindus express love to god by worshiping him either in his personal form(Like krishna) or in his impersonal form.Also the devote hindu while worshiping God WILL also engage in welfare of ALL creatures.

Being friendly to all living beings is also stressed in BG 11:55

God becomes saviour of his devotee by freeing him from the cycle of death and birth.(BG 12:6-7)

And what about turning back from sin, why would one, how so? What crosses to disunion? Where does the will and strength come from?

Can you be forgiven and have a clear conscience again, like a small child, and the hope of all good things restored? What happens and how?

Shalom.

Krishna says selfishness is the root cause of sin and he says The devotee shall do his duty (5:10) without expecting rewards and surrender himself to god.

Those who do selfless work will not be touched by sin(2:39).

Theist, Buddha is mentioned by prabhupada in his purport.SB 4.19.37doesnt say anything about Buddha or about the much abused śaktyāveśa-avatāra concept.

It should be of interest to you to read quote from Bhagavad-gītā (4.8): regarding what Krishna said about Avatar(s).

The existence of Vanara kingdom in Ramayana clearly states that Ramayana should have happened during the period when Lemuria existed.

Should have happened?. and then

Humans like us do not have the physical strength to take control of these creatures(Vanaras) which were described to be very much stronger and larger.

So what?.Lord Rama is not in ordinary human form.

So the lord (rama) should be incarnated into the body of a species which should be larger in size and stronger than the human beings. These species should have possesed mystic force or great armoury or plutonium or machine guns to have control over these creatures.

plutonium or machine guns?.This is an animalistic mind running riot.

Lemuria's existence was proved in south indian literature which is 2000 years old, about a massive land mass covering the bulk of Indian Ocean.

 

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kumari_Kandam

 

one cannot argue with literature as there was no need for the writer to lie.

You call that proof?.Have you even read the wiki article you quoted?

Lemuria was supposed to have submerged 25,000 years ago...and blah blah

Supposed to have?.Just a paragraph earlier you said there is a proof of lemuria.

No one can tell the world could come to an end by 2012 or move to 2013

So, what are you crying about?.

I'm trying to help out people who are knocking the doors of darkness for light.

HOW?

This not a threat but the reasons for the end to be close overweigh the redemption of this world.

What are you driving at? confused animalist.How do you propose to redeem the world?.Are you by any chance advocating eating human meat instead of Animal meat?

Admin may consider creating a trash bin to move silly threads like this.

There is a difference between detachment and using the concept as an escape from harsh realities of life.

Those who achieve sthithapragna(Gita) can attain detachment.

The story of Dhruv(as mentioned by AM) makes it clear one cannot forsake his responsibilities to feel closer to god.

This pest is going on and on in circles.I don't understand how admin allow hijacking of forums.

http://www.stephen-knapp.com/lord_rama_fact_or_fiction.htm

 

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human"]This might bring light into the world of ignorance.

If you read the quoted article in full you would know the uncertainity in dating ramayana.

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"For example, Vedic astrologer Nartaka Gopala devi dasi points out that "Regarding the calculation of Lord Rama’s birth as 10th of January 5114 BCE - Birth Day of Rama, Observation at 12.30 PM, there are 2 reasons why this cannot be correct. .....

This also corroborates why we who follow the Vedic calendar celebrate Lord Rama's appearance in April-May each year. So the traditional date appears accurate."

unquote

Ignorance is the result of an animalistic mind

Can anybody identify the chapter and verse in Rigveda?.

Another blind man.

 

Was Hindus (and Indians in general) starved in their own home land over 5,000 years ago?

Have their rights to practise what they believe taken away from them 5,000 years ago?

Have India become 2nd in number of those infected by AIDS or other diseases such as that which was transmitted sexually?

 

If the answers for this are NO, then what the hell are you talking about?

 

As for your statement that Homo Sapiens have NOT changed for the past 200,000 years, THAT IS A LOAD OF BS and you can ask ANY BIOLOGISTS and they WILL say the same thing.

Perhaps he remembers his days as Vanara(ape like humanoid) during Rama's time.Surely, there must be some good for nothing monkeys in those days.

Edit: double post.