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    This is because lay Hindus often do not follow any specific sampradaya. This may be due to the breakdown of brahminical authority in relatively recent times

    Raghu got more explicit now.While many of the things he wrote are true the spolier lies in the above quote.

     

    Raghu, tell me how can a lay hindu trust "brahminical authority" which manufactured and doctored various puranas to tighten their hold on divinity.I can quote many examples like dadeechi,brigu etc.


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    This is conversation with an Actual CRISTIAN SCHOLAR and Satyaraja Dasa:

     

    http://www.vconline.biz/2004/04novdec/garuda%20vs%20cherub%20short%20version.pdf

     

    Mount of Yahweh..etc IS described INDEED.

     

    Chandu...I have read some of the bible...and it only leads to one thing: God is Infinitely kind and we should Love Him.

     

     

    The pdf link, if you cared to read says

     

    quote Rev. Hart:

     

    “Thou shalt have no other gods before Me” (Exodus 20.3).

     

    ..... Thou shalt not bow down to them, nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a jealous God. (Exodus 20.4-5)

     

    Now what this has relevance to Lord Krishna??.

     

    Is Krishna a jealous god???

     

    Krishna says he grants wishes of people who worship other god(s).

     

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    Gita 7.22: Endowed with such a faith, he endeavors to worship a particular demigod and obtains his desires. But in actuality these benefits are bestowed by Me alone.

    7.21: I am in everyone's heart as the Supersoul. As soon as one desires to worship some deva(god), I make his faith steady so that he can devote himself to that particular deity.


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    Your main problem is ..

    You win.By the way i am writing a book and one of my favorite line in that book is

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    . but christian god is personal non-anthropomorphic .

     

     

    Christian god is anthropomorphic.

     

    Genesis 1:27 :So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.

     

    Exodus 24:9-11:<sup id="en-NKJV-2187" class="versenum" value="9">9</sup> Then Moses went up, also Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel, <sup id="en-NKJV-2188" class="versenum" value="10">10</sup> and they <u>saw the God of Israel. And there was under His feet</u> as it were a paved work of sapphire stone, and it was like the very heavens in its clarity. <sup id="en-NKJV-2189" class="versenum" value="11">11</sup> But on the nobles of the children of Israel He did not lay His hand. So they saw God, and they ate and drank.


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    The mount of Yahweh(or jehovah ?) resembles Garuda...There are some few other things too....I will produce them if i find them

     

    Where did you get the description of Mount of Yahweh?.Do you know Yahweh cannot be referred by his name.The jews refer him with fear writing god as go-d.


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    yes i agree with you , it could be that it have happened in other parts of world but dont you think that if such a big disaster had happened then India would have not been left out. the rising water level would definetly have sunk the coastal areas and plane part of India.

     

    I am not an expert in oceanology and floods but the source of flood tales is in and around europe and mediterranean areas.


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    Aryabhatt was a great astrologer we cant point out a finger on his knowlege and his ability.before aryabhatt we used to have approximate time of mahabharat war but he predicted the exact time of war on the basis of his calculation of position of stars. and as far as war is concerned if some thousand people were killed it would not be as famous as it is. I am not saying that nobody was left children, ladies and old age people were left out.

     

    I am talking about number of people participated in warnot Aryabatta's prediction on the dating of war.

     

    The one crucial thing to be understood is The war is fought in the BATTLE FIELD.There is no evidence that noncombatants are pursued and attacked.


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    thanks sir for the reply

    but the great war of mahabharata took place around 5000 years back . Aryabhatt has predicted the exact time of mahabharta war. and I have also heard that almost 66 crore people were killed in that war and nearly all young people were died in that war, only children and old age people were left out. it means that if at the time of mahabharat the population of India would be around 80-90 crore. so if that flood disaster is true it would have happened 40-50 thousand years back from mahabharat war . because atleast this much time is needed to reach the population from 1-2 person to 80-90 crore people, as nobody was left out after that flood except two people.

     

    I think you are reading lot of fiction.Aryabhatta was born abt 1500 years back, so anything attributed to his prediction regarding mahabharat should be false.Leaving aside The number of people participated in mahabharat war there is no reason to suspect that no people are left to procreate.Mahabharat war is between two ARMIES and Civilians are left unharmed.This is not a war between beleivers and unbeleivers where civilians are killed and looted of their properties for being unbeleivers(heathens).

     

    The flood stories of various civilizations(outside of india) are of relatively recent origin like abt 4000 years back but the evidence is not conclusive regarding dating.


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    No.You don't become bhakta if you don't know what the Acharyas have set down as facts through scriptural revelation.....

     

    But still,it is mandatory to know tattva.

     

     

    Gita 18:66 Abandon all varieties of religion and just surrender unto Me. I shall deliver you from all sinful reactions. Do not fear.

     

    :smash:


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    yes i agree with this, as i came to know about same story of flood by some christian propagator during my childhood. Also we have the historical record of all major activities after mahabharat war. we have Name of all Kings from Yudhister to Vikramaditya .In that record disaster like this flood is not mentioned anywhere. so when did it happen.?

     

    The flood might have happened in other parts of world probably around 4000 years back.That flood was not similar to the yugantha flood.


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    of course it isnt a sanskrit name.

    Dont you know that.

     

    What you have to understand is, this adam and eve purana was written in 19th century probably with some british missionary inputs.This story is a bad concoction of adam and eve story mixed with the much later flood story.Look before you leap.

     

    No scholar worth his name has commented on this so called purana.If you start quoting the innumerable puranas of doubtful authors you will be lost.


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    I do not to the view that "a MOODA can not attain the lotus feet of the Lord."

     

    I don't either to that view.

     

     

    And I believe that Sri Chithanya Maha Prabhu, Tukaram and other saints whom I revere never said such a thing.

     

    Correct, if that bhakti is restricted to pursuit of bhakthi alone.

     

     


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    Yet they did bother to leave us tons of philosophical literature. Was it for no reason?

     

    Of course they left tons of thoughts for the inquiring mind.For the less intelligent with closed minds there is always blind faith(mooda bhakthi).What Prahlada demonstrated is Strong faith not blind faith.Strong faith is the hall mark of enlightened souls.Strong faith cannot be equated with blind faith.

     

    Just my thoughts.:)

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