Amlesh

We are within Him and yet He is aloof.

Rightly said Bija. Alone, each individual spirit is not God, when all united, we contitute God. The same Hari / Ram / Krishna.

It's THE question.

Nope, only Gita has the copyright for Bhakti [+ Ramayana, Bhagvatam et all]. Not even Vedas. That's why in Bhagvatam it is said, for the Bhakta, he does not even care to read the Vedas, he just carry on with my work. And Krishna mentioned about Pushpitam Vaacham concerning the Vedas. Gita is beyond Pavriti and Nivriti. It does not mean I despise the Vedas, I do like them very much.

Even the Gita started with the level of understanding of Arjuna. First of all Krishna, said win the battle, you'll enjoy bliss on earth or even if you get Veer-Gati, you'll enjoy higher bliss on some planets.... but in the end you'll understand that the real bliss is not found elsewhere except having Hari always on our mind. Knowing a person's mind and advising till his intellect or better, his consciousness permits him, is the real way. Krishna revealed his Supremacy after the conversation grew a little bit longer not before. Why he did that? By that time, Arjuna was in measure to know that blissful Truth.

Nope, Buddhism does not reject Bhakti, cause they don't even know what is Bhakti. If His audience had the capacity to learn the Highest Truth, Buddha would not have stopped continuing with His lesson. Buddha is an Avatar of Hari; understand why he did that.

Hey Ram.

No Buddha came to explain in detail Nirvana, which Krishna mentioned 5000 years back. Nirvana is one of the steps towards Bhakti. A more careful analysis of the Gita will reveal all the different Branches of Thoughts, and will in the end reveal the highest of them all. Gita cannot be sectarian, for those who think so. Nirvana was mentioned in the Divine song, which later Buddha Himself came to explain for not-so-clever but better-than-many people.

I do agree, the Director does make sure that his scripts do contain substance before actually making a movie. Swades was indeed nice, i even liked Jodha Akbar. (Does anyone know which film did win?) ...... by stonehearted If I'm not wrong, it's no mansland.

Experience speaks it all. We still need much from you to share. Thanks Mahak. Hare Krishna

A mind twisting question, Srikanth. But a nice one.

You need to be on the battlefield inorder to receive First Class Mukti, not by intelligence or opulence [but directed by Hari]. The Vedas teaches Pavriti and Nivriti. The Devaki Putram Gitam is the knowledge that binds Man to God.

...in brief, is the difference between Jnana Yoga and Bhakti Yoga. Jnanis will meditate on their own atman (Akshara) and realise themselves (ie, their atman) to be the body of the indwelling paramatmA. Ayam Atma Brahma is one such example of a meditative vakya - First the AtmA, then Brahman is realised...... by Dark Warrior Exactly, the Jnany is in search of the absolute Truth and therefore his quest is more focussed on solitary meditation under a Banyan Tree or Himalaya. For the Bhakta, he already know the Absolute Truth, his quest for knowledge ends; he starts working for the Lord; in other words, for the welfare of all living entities. But to be chosen by Krishna for a Karya, you need to be really special; in other words, you'll be chosen only by His Grace or the Grace of his Beloved. That's why Prahalad maharaj says, it is much better to work for the benefit of Sarva Bhutani rather than doing some selfish solitary acts for Mukti in the Himalaya.

...and DW too.

The same Ram and Sita dwell in the heart of Hanumatha. The Pure Self is Hari Himself. Hanumatha got the privilege to prove it.

In fact Sri is the greatest contributor to this thread. His critical mind is mind blowing. He never accepts anything blindly. All his questions and analysis will be helpful to the kids coming afterwards [maybe later years]. Through him only, that we got to know some of the secrets in DW's mind. Arguing with Sri is really superb, he does not let the law of probability of any kind of interference. And about you Bhaktajan, your contribution is the your Cut and Paste abilities. The kids will find the answer through you. Srimad Bhagwatam is indeed the crestjewel of the Vedic literatures. To be frank, I count myself among the kids. The only thing, I hope the kids will have the same capabilities as the swan, they can separate milk and water. Even then I liked your fightings, it was indeed sweet.

Nice observation Sri.

It's because he knows the 5 irreligious principles: 1. Vidharma 2. Para-dharma 3. Abhasa 4. Upadharma 5. Chala-Dharma When he argues on these Issues, it's only with the Vaishnavas. He never argues; if someone does not consider Vedas.

Thanks Suchandra, I just viewed some of the songs. Mind blowing.

It reminds me of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi; he said, "I'm in a war, but this time the weapon is different." The weapon he referred to was "Ahimsa [indirectly Truth]". Very few these days have that same spirit power as that of Gandhiji, and thinking about waking up US makes me think about another phrase of the Mahatma, "We can wake up someone if he is really sleeping".

It reminds me of Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi; he said, "I'm in a war, but this time the weapon is different." The weapon he referred to was "Ahimsa [indirectly Truth]". Very few these days have that same spirit power as that of Gandhiji, and thinking about waking up US makes me think about another phrase of the Mahatma, "We can wake up someone if he is really sleep"

Like you said, it's twisted logic.

Agreed. Those who are meant to understand. Have understood. For those, whom Bhagwad Praapti is not yet in their Destiny, the Glory of the Lord will still be a mystery. But they are on the way.

I suppose we have very few Brahmins here. Concerning the Sun God, as far as I know, you are the first one to refer him as Prominent [in this Forum I mean]. You are the lucky first, if I'm not wrong. Truly, you were the only one missing in this Forum, Unity in Diversity. Welcome to Audarya.

But not many have been graced by such eyes. Thanks for the enlightenment.