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No prob, bro, just a short explanation. Via medium is in al relationships. Offend the son, and the father is not pleased, offend the father, the son has nothing to do with you. The key is what many christians cannot grasp for lack of submissive inquiry unto a lover of god. Jesus did nothing but demonstrate his relationship of love with his father, the relationship (rasa)is everything. So of course, there is no spiritual life while neglecting the relationship between the lover and the beloved. So, leyh citation is ever valid. haribol, ys, mahak

Haribol, satyaraja, good topic (I think). You state: "Sanatana Dharma as a universal tradition has room for all faiths and all religious and spiritual practices regardless of the time or country of their origin. It is the oldest, most complex and enigmatic of the world's major system of philosophies, theologies and beliefs and the most atypical compared to predominant Western belief systems According to Sanatana Dharma, or the universal tradition, evolution should be the progressive unfoldment of the capacities of the soul toward the ultimate goal of Self-realization." mahak comment: sanatana dharma is actually devoid of religiosity, for it is not springing from anywhere but the self. Sanatana dharma cannot be joined, nor quit, excommunication is impossible. Sanatana dharma is who we actually are, and defines as the "eternal function of the self". Any "evolution" must be thought of as a project of "memory revival", not an injection of dogmatic beliefs. You ask: "Does Sanatana-dharma accept Prophets and Messiahs?" Mahak comment: Prophets, messaihs, gurus, acaryas, mullahs, are seen by the "self" as such in regard to the power of reviving memory of sanatana dharma. If one uses the phrase "sanatana dharma" to designate a religious belief or eccliastic system, then the meaning of the phrase is moot. You ask: "Are there any dogmas within Sanatana-dharma?" mahak comment: again, if your use of the phrase "sanatana dharma" is to separate it from actual self realization, that becomes dogmatic in itself. However, one who has memory partially restored to the actual self will accept universal truth because it is true, not by dogmatic "who has said this" or "which sect has approved this" etc. I, myself, also accept the truth of bhagavad gita because of practical application and time tested reliability. A bible banger may object, but I have accepted many things from western scripture as reality as well, despite protests of my vaisnava tradition peers. You ask: "What is the role of sects such as Vaisnavas' within Sanatana-dharma?" mahak comment: While I agree that there has been sectarianizing of vaisnava tradition, I do not regard Vaisnavism as a sect, but as a vehicle for reviving memory of sanatana dharma. The self must conclude that a superior self exists, and this is called theism. Atheists have no need to discuss these things, so, to continue discussion here, we all must be theists. Vaisnavism may refer to Lord Vishnu, which may indicate a hindu god, but if Vaisnavism is meaning the "Supreme Person" without equal, this hump may be overcome. as far as sects, schools, centers, temples, mosques, churches, etc. go, they are valuable only to the extent they help revive the memory of the actual self. If a church stresses membership at the automatic exclusion of others, it is useless, and may very well cause de-evolution in regard to sanatana dharma. Practices of yoga, mantra meditation, kirtana, these are very helpful to the memory revival process, and a sect that emphasizes such practice can be seen as quite valuable. Though some events such as deity worship are viewed by some as mechanical, such mechanics has a true purpose if it leadsa to sanatana dharma. If the practices themselves become supreme, all may well be lost is such mechanics. Haribol, ys, mahaksadasa

Haribol, satyaraja, good topic (I think). You state: "Sanatana Dharma as a universal tradition has room for all faiths and all religious and spiritual practices regardless of the time or country of their origin. It is the oldest, most complex and enigmatic of the world's major system of philosophies, theologies and beliefs and the most atypical compared to predominant Western belief systems According to Sanatana Dharma, or the universal tradition, evolution should be the progressive unfoldment of the capacities of the soul toward the ultimate goal of Self-realization." mahak comment: sanatana dharma is actually devoid of religiosity, for it is not springing from anywhere but the self. Sanatana dharma cannot be joined, nor quit, excommunication is impossible. Sanatana dharma is who we actually are, and defines as the "eternal function of the self". Any "evolution" must be thought of as a project of "memory revival", not an injection of dogmatic beliefs. You ask: "Does Sanatana-dharma accept Prophets and Messiahs?" Mahak comment: Prophets, messaihs, gurus, acaryas, mullahs, are seen by the "self" as such in regard to the power of reviving memory of sanatana dharma. If one uses the phrase "sanatana dharma" to designate a religious belief or eccliastic system, then the meaning of the phrase is moot. You ask: "Are there any dogmas within Sanatana-dharma?" mahak comment: again, if your use of the phrase "sanatana dharma" is to separate it from actual self realization, that becomes dogmatic in itself. However, one who has memory partially restored to the actual self will accept universal truth because it is true, not by dogmatic "who has said this" or "which sect has approved this" etc. I, myself, also accept the truth of bhagavad gita because of practical application and time tested reliability. A bible banger may object, but I have accepted many things from western scripture as reality as well, despite protests of my vaisnava tradition peers. You ask: "What is the role of sects such as Vaisnavas' within Sanatana-dharma?" mahak comment: While I agree that there has been sectarianizing of vaisnava tradition, I do not regard Vaisnavism as a sect, but as a vehicle for reviving memory of sanatana dharma. The self must conclude that a superior self exists, and this is called theism. Atheists have no need to discuss these things, so, to continue discussion here, we all must be theists. Vaisnavism may refer to Lord Vishnu, which may indicate a hindu god, but if Vaisnavism is meaning the "Supreme Person" without equal, this hump may be overcome. as far as sects, schools, centers, temples, mosques, churches, etc. go, they are valuable only to the extent they help revive the memory of the actual self. If a church stresses membership at the automatic exclusion of others, it is useless, and may very well cause de-evolution in regard to sanatana dharma. Practices of yoga, mantra meditation, kirtana, these are very helpful to the memory revival process, and a sect that emphasizes such practice can be seen as quite valuable. Though some events such as deity worship are viewed by some as mechanical, such mechanics has a true purpose if it leadsa to sanatana dharma. If the practices themselves become supreme, all may well be lost is such mechanics. Haribol, ys, mahaksadasa

I wish that ramadan gives all muslims the ability to accept that they are not muslims at all, but are really servants of the Supreme Allah devoid of all the sectarian hatred that affects all those who falsely identify with mundane religion. I pray that all christians, hindus, jews and muslims give up all varieties of religion and simply surrender to the Supreme Lord, who is never away for the blink of an eye.

Haribol, mateo, I am about to leave your topic here, but I must first challenge something you state. "I repeat here for the nth time.As a re- presentative of our Lord Jesus Christ, I`m not challenging anyone who profess the Hindu or Muslim faith. " In the vaisnava tradition, statements like this are regarded as key to the cheating propensity. I question your position as "representative" of Lord Jesus Christ. Is this representation decided by a diploma from a theological institution, a self-appointment, or actual empowerment by He Who sent His Son. You may disagree with my attempt here, but authority is demonstrated by Lord Jesus Christ's own words. You have presented yourself as authority, so if I put you to the test, you should not object. In Vaisnava tradition (which also includes the teachings of Lord Jesus Christ absent the eccliastic pollution), "representation" and empowerment is shown by humility, first and foremost. The more one feels unqualified to represent the Supreme Lord, the more qualified (s)he becomes. The fully accepted acaryas, those whose empowerment is unquestioned, are those who truely feel the least qualified to represent the Supreme Lord. So, your qualifications are hereby questioned, because I do not artificially accept you as the representative of Lord Jesus Christ. You have acted as his disciples when they became worried about seemingly competitive preachers they had heard. Lord Jesus did not approve of their comparisons and disdain, and admonished them saying, "Those who are not preaching against us are with us." In questioning your self-stated authority, I am trying to follow the teachings of Lord Jesusw Christ that deal with authority. I cite them here, with short commentary following. (Matt 10:25-30) Lord Jesus Christ Prayed, "I praise You, Abah (Father), Lord of heaven and earth, because You hide from the learned scholars while revealing Yourself to the poor and needy. You have turned everything over to the Son, and nobody knows the Son except the Father, nor does anybody know the Father except the Son and those with ears to hear from the Son and are pleasing to the Son. All you poor and needy, come to the Son and I will refresh you. Take My Yoke (Yoga) upon you and learn from Me, because I am meek and modest and you may confide in Me. My Yoke is comfortable and My load is light." Comment: This is a lesson of "gurudeva patita pavana". Guru's yoke is Yoga, His relationship with the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and His desire is that the poor and needy share in the comfort of this relationship. The connection, yoke, yoga, linkage, is available to all, but only the vanquished can surrender. Those cursed with matter addiction (karmis), self-importance from academic success (jnanis), or mystic imitation of the Supreme Lord (yogis) do not attend the festivities of His calling, by their own foolish choices, thus Lord Jesus Christ is truely patita pavana, dearmost friend of those bereft of material fortune. (Mark 11: 27-33) The scholars, elders and priests were questioning Lord Jesus Christ thus: "Who gives You the power to do these things?" He responded, "I will answer on the condition you answer whether the baptism of John is heaven-sent or of human origin?" The church leaders conferred among themselves, deciding both possible answers threatened their positions. Heaven-sent meant they denied the Will of the Supreme, human origin meant that they were to be attacked by the people, so they diplomatically answered, "We cannot tell." Lord Jesus Christ then said, "Then I won't tell you either." Comment: The lesson here is that authority of Gurudeva is never discussed among the faithless. (Matt 8: 5-13) As Lord Jesus Christ entered Capernaum, a Roman officer approached and requested His healing mercy. He agreed, and began following him, but the official said, "My Dear Lord, I have folks who are required to follow my orders, but You, Sir, are much beyond this realm. I do not deserve Your mercy, but, if You wish, say only the word and my son will be healed." The Lord said to His followers, "I have not seen such trust in all of Judea. I predict that folks from East and West will dine with Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, with My Father, but for those who may think that the Spiritual Realm belongs to a segment of society will be left in darkness. Go, My friend, your son is well and awaiting your arrival." Comment: Sri Gurudeva comes to give Love of God to all without discrimination, he is never bound by sectarian ideas or imprisoned by the cultural bars of the ignorant. (Matt 16: 15-19) One day, Lord Jesus Christ asked His disciples, "Who do the people say that I am?" Looking to Simon Peter, He asked, "Who do you say I am?" Simon responded, "You are the annointed one, the Son of the Living Lord." In response, The Lord said, "You are to be congratulated, Simon, son of Jonah, because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father. You are the foundation of My mission that no one can overcome, and you possess the keys to both the eternal and temporal kingdoms. But you must not tell others that I am the annointed, for they must come to Me in the same way." Comment: Only by the grace of God, one gets Guru. This is actual guru-tattwa, no appointment, election or permission needed, this is the empowerment of the disciple by the Supreme Lord Himself to have the ears to hear from His representative, purchased by the sincerity of the disciple alone. (John 5: 60-65) A certain teaching of Lord Jesus Christ caused some of the followers to question the content. Some grumbled that the teachings were offensive. The Lord knew who the grumblers were, and pointed out this fact: "This is why I told you. People cannot come to Me unless My Father has granted this." Comment: This clear description of the fact, "By the grace of God, one gets guru", indicates that the sincerity of the disciple is absolutely necessary in the equasion called guru-tattwa. After this event, many of those who were pretending to follow, attracted by populist notions, left Him for good. He then asked His apostles, "Do you want to leave Me too?" Their response was evidence that their attraction to guru was based on the prerequisite sincerity, that the Supreme Father Himself empowered not only His Son to be Guru, but also empowered the disciples to hear from Him. (John 7: 6-18) The Judeans, always criticizing Lord Jesus Christ, were quite amazed at His preaching skills. Some said, "Here is a good man", while others scoffed, calling Him a cheater. They were thus fighting among themselves about His position. He then delivered a powerful lecture that stunned them all. They asked Him, "You are uneducated, how can You be so articulate?" The Lord responded, "What I am teaching does not originate from Me but with He Who sent Me. Anyone who does the Will of My Father knows well enough whether this teaching originates with God or whether I am speaking on My own authority. All who speak on their own authority are after praise for themselves. But for he who is only concerned with the praise of the One Who sent Him-He is truthful, there is nothing false about Him." Comment: This is a clear, truthful description of Sri Gurudeva. He gives what He has been given, intact. His mastery is proven by His service, thus disciplic succession is the true guru-tattwa. (John 8: 54) "If I were to glorify Myself, that glory of Mine would mean nothing. But, in fact, My Father glorifies Me, and all who do His Will will see this relationship." Comment: Lord Jesus Christ spoke these words to the masses who would do Him harm, those too conditioned to doing their own wills to be eligible for spiritual life. Similarly, if we so choose to remain entangled by our own desires, Guru remains unavailable, the lack of sincerity prevents one from associating with Guru, and all "official" gurus such materialists may "honor", by show only, have no empowerment to deliver. A bonafide spiritual master and the bonafide disciple are never separated, any such separation exists only in the imagination of the pretenders. The sadhu, Lord Jesus Christ, actually teaches us all, as does Srila Prabhupada and His bonafide disciples, that YOGA means relationship, devoid of any ideas of lonliness. There is no possibility of being alone if one sincerely attempts to do the Will of the Supreme Person, for Guru Tattwa immediately takes place upon sincere desire to please Him, Sri Gurudeva becomes available at once to such fortunate souls who have become alive by the sounds of Harinama. So, Mateo, I mean no offense here, but do declare that your attempt to show difference in Vaisnava philosophies is inappropriate. If you are in the service mode to "convert" those who are hedonists, or those who think God is illusory or that God Himself comes under the power of illusion, you have nothing but support from this writer. But if you use your small fund of knowledge to create sectarianism, then you are a great enemy of actual spiritual life. hare krsna, ys, mahaksadasa

Mercy Ship c.1993, mahaksadasa You came into my life from oh so far, Riding through my mind in Subhadra's car, Without a single purpose but to save the world. Your Song has mor power than all the missles they have hurled. All the holy men came to show the way. Many people listened to what they had to say. Some of them insane, some just went to other things, Not knowing the difference between soldiers and Kings. They wanted to steal my mind, take away my land, A trade for a philosophy no one can understand. They prey on people' greed, take advantage of their fear. They say anything the people want to hear. Tricks, treachery, cheap words, and smiling nods, Are needed to convince the ignorant they are gods. Crime, poverty, death, gods exposed as fools, Tossed around like ants into giant whirlpools. But You did not come to advertize Your name. You had no pressing needs to strive for selfish fame. You have what you are given, and to me You bring, Matchless Gifts, if I would only dance and sing. You have gone back to Vrndavana, left me all alone, On these streets of Armageddon, weary to the bone. Yet You leave Your loving Lifeline, waiting for my grip. Through these dreadful waters, You guide the Mercy Ship.

Ill gladly follow Lord Jesus Christ, but only As He Is. The idea that god has come under the authority of the romans is ludicrous, and the idea that the son is the father is sumarily rejected by Lord Jesus Christ himself. So, it is one thing to follow the sadhu, the vaisnava acarya, by scrutinizingly understanding and becoming submissive with inquiry to such an authority, but all this show-bottle pledges of being his is adequately described by Lord Jesus Christ, when he clearly states "There will be many who claim to be mine, but I say to them 'Get away from me, you workers of evil, for you fail to do the will of my Father Whos has sent Me'" So, the attitude of the real follower of Lord Jesus Christ is fully present in Psalm 40, in which there is confidence that our works in His service are recognized, but at the same time, full understanding of our actual plight prevents all such puffed up declarations of actually being HIS. I will gladly speak about Lord Jesus Christ to anyone, but not with someone polluted by eccliastic idealism and sectarian "I am better than thou" attitudes. I will gladly share the good news (gospel) with someone who recognizes that "epistles" are perfunctory and absent theology altogether. If I lost you here, then so be it. mahak

Lord Jesus Christ may well be MY LORD, but Ill never agree to call Him Our Lord unless the character of the entire "our" is analyzed. I suggest that the so called "Jesus" people try to understand His actual position, minus the phony pledges of allegiance that even He cringes at, or haven't you read His teachings at all? mahak Haribol, Valaya, enjoyed your posts about the gatherings with you-know-who's friends and students. Hope all is well with you and give them all my regards.

Doggone, I thopught you were inviting me for talks on the Trident Nuclear Missile System. Oh well, at least I got to read som Bono here, say howzit to me braddah, di edge.

Propaganda of the firefighters is continuing. These frauds cost hundreds of lives who were already orderly retreating the WTC. These gung ho cowboys got in the way, blocked the escape routes, and even ordered folks back into their offices. If I hear another "poor heroic firefighter" story, Im gonna heave chunks. They were not heroes, they were stupid, and I dont shed a tear for their corpses. The mayor is intelligent, dump those carcasses immediately before cholera and other horrible disease kills whats left of lower manhatten. Throw them punk &%$ anti-heroes in jail and let them rot. Someone tell the TRUTH about 911, and throw them liars brokaw, rather, and jennings off the air. Want better news, go BBC, CBC, or anything not covered by 50 USC or NSA. Hell them bodies are rat stool by now anyway, whats the problem. mad mahax

no, you cannot become a hindu, nor would you want to. These are but temporary designations not related with the self, just bodily and mental designations. Religion is the destruction of the world, and the only way out is to give up all varieties of religion and surrender to the Supreme Lord, Call his name like a helpless child cries for his mother. If you do this, even once, you transcend the greatest "hindu" and surpass any reward he may have received by mundane religious practice. Hare Krsna, mahaksadasa

Haribol, Namah, the thanks is all mine to you. I write all the time, and sometimes my least favorite author on these forums is myself, but I am a writer, what else can I do. When I hear your approach to reading the writers who take the time and effort to attempt to engage in Krsna Katha by commentary on this philosophy, up to the extent of personal tried-and-true realization shared like soft violin music or the blaring of horns and pounding of drums, I can only offer obiesancies to those who approach the devotee with intent of submissive inquiry. The ones whose attitude reflects the spirit of humility, and excitement at the prospect of gleaning pure nectar from an assembly of devotees far outweighs the approach of condecension shown by the habitual soothsayers like myself. Hope to read all of your realizations as expressed soon and often. Welcome aboard, this place has become better by your entry into the frey, hare krsna, ys, mahaksadasa

Opinions! Everyone's got one, and everyone is entitled to mine. Phony liberals are the disdain of my hero of youth, Malcolm X. You may say Im off track all you want, but so-called liberals are BFSkinner types, Carnigie types who favor all kind of phony science over any type of search for reality. Im in the middle of an article on the subject that plastic fantastic lovers will never defeat, and Ill publish here first. To intrigue yall, it is titled, OJ Simpson meets Charles Darwin. Yall will see how bad science leads to the greatest illusion ever perpetrated on humankind. Just as OJ came first all all evidence was geared toward his conviction, just the opposite of the way criminal investigative science is supposed to have the evidence point to the perp, similarly, all science has been geared to support the conclusions of Charles Darwin rather that being a force for new discovery. Anyway, yall will see how this man will make many long held secrets vanish and will not let paradigmous philosophy stand in the way of his pledge of National Service. I wont bother comparing him to clinton because monkeys and buffoon baboons, no matter how they imitate humans, still just have bananas and sex while the world burns around them, these plastic fantastic lovers. At least GWB can take the bull by the horns and bring him to the ground. But I still lub ya bro tarun, hope ye be well, have a kirtana at ground zero and Ill be with ya in spirit, ys, mahak

Quote--"Why is lust negative? it is the "innate mechanism for the survival of the species". Lust is a natural, biological factor. It is not something that is learnt." Biology is not negative, it is just a very limited truth. The very basis of spiritual understanding has, at the very beginning stages, the acceptance of the "ghost in the machine". This means acceptance that the material manifestation is an arena for the living entity to "ride in" and not the life form itself. So, lust, as a biological pushing, is accepted as just that by one of spiritual understanding, not artificially rejected, rather, seen as inferior to the emotion that lust is a shadow of, the real Love Exchange. Lust and love cannot be accepted as the same thing, even in the biology world. Anyone who has "fallen" in love knows this, and though the physical expression of love often arouses lusty desire, the love is real if the lust has no effect on the expressed relationship. So, sex in love is not at all to be considered the same as lust, which is nothing more than having the senses dictate to the mind and not much more spiritually advanced than those in animal bodies. Love, sex, and lust are three separate subjects, and if one cannot see distinctions in the three and interchange the words as if synonomous, a discussion of the subject will never get anywhere. Actually, my personal "belief" (which I consider realization due to the concept being brought to beyond reasonable doubt) is tha Jesus and Lord Brahma are one and the same. The virginity of Mary can remain intact by the siddhis of Lord Brahma, who has the distinction of being the only begotten son of the Supreme Father, Lord Narayan, who gave to Lord Brahma from the lotus without the need of a female spouse. Anyway, apologies to SHVU for being a bit rough due to what I perceived as a slam on the other channel. Hope you will remain to feel free to express yourself without fear of such reprisal even though I may have a sharp tongue now and then. Hare Krsna, ys, mahaksadasa

I believe your hocus-pocus comment, but you ruin your credibility entirely by your closing statement. First, you slam the faultless Axumite mother of Lord Jesus Christ, and then you slam Srila Prabhupada in the sense that you deny that appearance of the Supreme Lord, whether plenary incarnation or empowered avatara, happens transcendentally without the necessity of material biological consideration. In the Krsna Book, it is described that mundane sexual contact was not the influence of the appearance of Krsna in the womb of Mother Devaki, that this arrangement was completely arranged by inconceivable internal potency of the will of the Supreme Lord. No one cares if you "believe" in the virgin birth of Lord Jesus Christ, no one cares if you "believe" that Krsna danced on the head of Kaliya serpant and accepted the homages from his half-human, half snake Nagapatnis. What my issue here is is your utterly humanistic and materialistic approach to spiritual understanding, but considering the content of your posts, I dont particularly care about you, period.

Haribol, well, I hope Im wrong about 10-18-01, but I was hoping that India and Pakistan could bury the hatchet in favor in furthering the cause of religion in alliance against the sacriledge called terrorism. But no, their idiocy is bringing them to the brink of war tomorrow, something that is not needed and will muddy the waters greatly. US Security? Dont bet on it. Where I work, there are sleeping sentries, white powder being "swept under the rug" without analysis (Yeah, there are many hoaxes out there, but maybe the one you see is the weapons grade stuff, yeah, the kind that hits you in six weeks, right during flu season, and youll say "it cant happen here, to me". So, youll have the flu, be really sick, and then the next day, youll feel much better. The third day, youll wake up gasping for breath, with water in your lungs, but dont bother calling 911, by ther time they arrive, youll be dead.) Today, there was a suit inspecting the vent system, and when a friend asked him for a badge, he showed him a NIS badge (Naval Investigative Service). He had a name plate without photo ID, and the NIS badge had no photo, but my friend did not push the issue because his boss previously told him it is not his job to check badges. Well, I can get a NIS badge from any paramilitary magazine Mail Order, and it is our job to check badges, especially when we handle nuclear warheads every day. I would have not only told my boss that he was giving absurd instructions to his subordinates, I would have pushed the issue until he was run out of here for good. The world as we knew it ended on 9-11-01, and though it may have been sweet to live in naievity, the war is on our front lawns. Yall can say that bush and bin laden need Bhagawatam, but without us to give adequate example and follow the ORDER to become guru and save the world and instead spend our lives discussing how everyone else is not guru, no one will ever come to their senses, and Kali Yuga will exert itself until we live in caves and draw crude pictures of what our world used to be on the walls for future anthropologists to analize our primitive cultures........ mad mahax Hope to be writing more positive stuff soon.

Conyers had found chandra levy. She was in hiding because she had a lot of info about scandal in the House. Conyers arranged to have her stay in an office until arrangements could be made for her important disclosures. Unfortunately, she was staying in an office suite in tower seven of the WTC on 9-11-01, and is now "missing". This is conyers story, anyway. Funny how news stuff that we cannot live without are easily forgotten.

Haribol. I write this article to thank our friend Bhutabhavana dasa for his unrelenting support of our president GW Bush. I am quite proud to say that this man is after my heart, even though Im still a bleedin heart liberal. Fact is, GW Bush is the most compassionate person to sit in the Oval Office. He doesnt spout rhetoric of liberalism, but has signed executive orders affirming the difference between Afghan citizens and the demon West Afrikan-Indonesian-Saudi terrorists that have victimized this very unfortunate Nation for many years. Those who are politically astute will know the answer to a question of whether the Afghanis will view us like turn-of-the-century Brits or 80s Russians. Afghanis regard Americans as their freedom fighters and their only grievance against us is that we failed to help them during the horrible crimes of the Taliban as it happened. Today I read another Executive Order at the Federal Defence Facility in which I am employed. It clearly stated the government intolerance against anyone who makes offense to honest lovers of God who practice various religions. So, BB, I think about clinton and gore every now and then, and actually remember them as the types my liberal sixties friends used to regard with the utmost disdain. What was that ol Jefferson Airplane Line "Plaqstic Fantastic Lovers". I like Malcom X line of "Oreo cookie, black on the outside but pure honkie cracker within." Or how bout the stones, "You dont always get what ya want, but ya get what ya need". My Hipster generation hated phony liberals, and the idiots we just threw out are epitomes of the problem. GW Bush is real, genuine, and count me in as a 92 %er who fully support his handling of these troubling times. GWB is the first prez from my generation who has acted with the vibe of what the world mostly wants, peace, love, and justice. Just some thoughts from the mudmon, ys, mahak

Haribol, jij, cool wave ya drew, wheres my 5'2" brewer slammer jammer with solid fin. Hope you be well and happy, ys, mahak

Haribol, jij, cool wave ya drew, wheres my 5'2" brewer slammer jammer with solid fin. Hope you be well and happy, ys, mahak

She who is always in the hands of Srimati Radharani and simultaneously at the feet of Lord Govinda is the soul of both, and represents the essence of Bhakti Yoga. All glories to Srimati Tulasi devi. Hare Krsna, ys, mahaksadasa

I dont debate idiots and psychos, but a Krsna Copnscious ruler, first and foremost, would "welcome the religious impulse in humankind", as did Srila Prabhupada. A Krsna Conscious ruler would have complete religious freedom in his kingdom, including freedom to be an atheist, because such a person has faith in the process designed by God to reach an individual (guru tattwa). The reason that religious freedom is tolerated by a Krsna Conscious individual is because the person knows that loving God is based on free will and the choice to render service. Any force and coercion applied to another to enforce sectarian belief is known and seen by the sane to be thoroughly against the laws of spiritual love. Forced love is called rape, and God does not rape anyone. Satyarajas offensive attempt of humor is misplaced and shows him to be not of sound religious principle. His total approach is to discredit an important Vaisnava Acarya and seldom offers anything of value to any conversation. His hatred of one who is universally recognized as a bonafide authority on Vaisnavism is intolerable, and I request the moderator to again ban this individual from sane conversation held here. There is no problem debating issues, even questioning various philosophical points presented by various authorities, but to make such an offensive remark and trying to analogize Srila Prabhupada with anti-Allah fanatics is most reprehensible. No one needs to curse you, bro, you are already living in the worst condition imaginable. Hare Krsna, ys, mahaksadasa

do cigarettes help? headaches come from leaving the "falling in love" status and entering the "I love only sensation" CATAGORY. haribol mahak

2008 years prior to 9-27-2001, (7 B.C.), was the appearance of Lord Jesus Christ. Combined with the fluctuation of the solar ejecta as well as the blood red full moon, I was calculating this date as eventual. On this date there was a serious plan to unleash HAZMAT upon unsuspecting citizens, but the US is very fast and is rounding up the culprits all over the world. However, there is another date to consider, that is on 10-18-01. Another solar flare, and battle lines are being drawn, canisters are being prepared. Mindinao is a center of the offenders to Allah and the most ruthless fanatics reside there. Out of the 3500 organizations that are dedicated to the fanatic viewpoint that is now newsworthy, only 11 of these groups have the dedication to use suicide in their heinous quest. But these unholy eleven are very large groups and are located in about 40 countries, with large contingencies in US and Canada. Some of these groups are now at war with each other because the WTC was a financial backbone to many of them. BTW, there are large Vaults in the basement of WTC containing $250,000,000,000 in gold bars and boullion. The La Cosa Nostra is diverting many refuse trucks working on the clean-up operastions. WTC debris also contains many state secrets, as it was the main office of US Secret Service. There are documents and mind boggling intelligence info waiting to be found. By the way, the cloud of smoke covering lower Manhattan for days contained high levels of PCBs and asbestos fibers, so the actual toll of human destruction is unfathomable. October 18, I hope Im wrong like the 27th, I hope prevention takes place like the arrest of the demons with their designs on HAZMAT trucks and were incarcerated on the 26th. Divine intervention is always possible, as western scripture prophesizes a battlefield where the combatants forget what the war is about and lie down, unable to move. Sounds like ELF or loss of magnetic field to me, the result of solar flare or Tesla weaponry gone awry. How do ya kill a man in a cave? Striker weapons will blow his brains out in his sleep, but I hope their aim is good. Be good, this is very important now. Hey BB, son got a good commission, small boat with big guns, protecting Puget Sound. Twofold orders to craft with ill intention, stop and allow capture or go to allah immediately. haribol, mad mahax

Bogus list. No Malcolm X? No Didymous Thomas? No St. Augustine? No Jeanne d'Arc? Islam gets too much recognition. Muhammed is properly listed, but Suliman is just as influential, and would have conquered the entire world if not for the black plague. What about the Huns? What about Chief Joseph? What about Kamehameha the Great? Bogus list. mad mahax