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It was not devious of the woman, it was foolish of the men. :-) Jai Sri Krishna!

It does not matter what the name means here. What mattrers is that she was a great devotee of Krishna. Krishna to her was her husbahd. Meera was a princess and queen. Being so, the custom of the time would not allow her to walk and dance in public. (Even now royal families do not do it.) Meera gave up the kingdom, the rolay family, and the social boundary. She would dance and sing freely in public among the sadhus and praise Krishna. Her songs are full of pain of separation from krishna, love for kirhsna, renounciation, and bhakti and gyana. In India the name Meera invokes this great devotee's pastimes. People of lower guna and karma do not keep Meera name. The meeaning of Meera is her character and bhakti. some of her songs are: govindo pran amaaro re mane jaga lagyo kharo re Translation: Govind (Krishna) is my life, and the sansara has tasted salty/bitter to me. ranoji kagal mokale re dejo mirane haath sadhuni sangat chhodi mira tame vaso amaari saath The king (her hesband) send a letter to meera: "give up the association of sadhus and live with me." Meerabai kagal mokale re dejo ranane haath. raja patha chhdi rana tame vaso amaari shath. Meere sends a reply to the king: "O rana, you give up the kingdom and come live with us and glorify Krishna." Every one in Gujarat and Rajasthan sings Meera's bhajans. Jai Sri Krishna!

It does not matter what the name means here. What mattrers is that she was a great devotee of Krishna. Krishna to her was her husbahd. Meera was a princess and queen. Being so, the custom of the time would not allow her to walk and dance in public. (Even now royal families do not do it.) Meera gave up the kingdom, the rolay family, and the social boundary. She would dance and sing freely in public among the sadhus and praise Krishna. Her songs are full of pain of separation from krishna, love for kirhsna, renounciation, and bhakti and gyana. In India the name Meera invokes this great devotee's pastimes. People of lower guna and karma do not keep Meera name. The meeaning of Meera is her character and bhakti. some of her songs are: govindo pran amaaro re mane jaga lagyo kharo re Translation: Govind (Krishna) is my life, and the sansara has tasted salty/bitter to me. ranoji kagal mokale re dejo mirane haath sadhuni sangat chhodi mira tame vaso amaari saath The king (her hesband) send a letter to meera: "give up the association of sadhus and live with me." Meerabai kagal mokale re dejo ranane haath. raja patha chhdi rana tame vaso amaari shath. Meere sends a reply to the king: "O rana, you give up the kingdom and come live with us and glorify Krishna." Every one in Gujarat and Rajasthan sings Meera's bhajans. Jai Sri Krishna!

To answer directly - what would Jesus drive, I would say Jesus is not likely to come personally on this earth, although any one is free to believe so. So, no need to address the question. Suppose he comes on earth today, I think that then Pope would give him ride in his vehicle. Just as Pope does not drive him self, Jesus will not drive himself. Now to addrerss environmental issues on any pretex is good. To become less and less dependent on oil is good. However, oil is a strategic commodity. It means that any country who does not have it, will loose in war. The Vedic society did not depend on oil, and it was happy. Now that the world knows there is oil, everyone wants to get hold of it. Devas and Danavas cooperated to churn the ocean to get amrita (necter) so that by drinking it they can become immortals. Similarly, the world countries are fighting to get oil so that they have enough power to win a war. Also having oil means economic progress. Unfortunately very few countries think of spiritual progress. The right thing is to think of both now. To remain economically poor means to be a victim of Islamists or others who want you to give up your chosen religion. So, the right thing to do is be strong in every way and then practice dharma. om pUrna midah pUrna midam pUrnaat pUrnam udachyate pUransya pUrnamaadaaya pUranmevaa vashisyate So, we on this world have everything we need. If all understand this view, then there will not be national boundaries. Conseqeuntly there will not be OPEC. But because we have oil, and boundaries, see the irony! US has cars and no oil. Saudis or Iraq, etc. have no cars but oil and sand only. In addition they have Wahabism that no other non-Islam country can accept. So, the struggle/strife/war is un-avoidable. To remain neutral is to be taken over by who ever is the winner. The time demands to practice Kshatriya dharma when necessary. How others think about this please? Jai Sri Krishna!

My thoughts about it are: Gujna plant or bush grows in vrindavan and other places. Gopis might be giving gunja seed mala to Krishna. so this tradition continues. It reminds vrindvan and the pastimes of Krishna. Jai Sri Krishna!

This is very nice if Jacson understood gita. let us hope he spreads Gita's message everywhere, specially to Bin Laden and his party. Jai Sri Krishna!

Guest wrote: <<I don't know if I can wait another 427,000 years. >> I would try to give some thoughts that may help. Never worry or complain about something that cannot be changed. Most vaishnavs believe kali is here for 432000 (minus 5000) years. (A yogi, Yukteswar, however says with good reasoning that we are already out of Kali.) This yuga is not specially created by god for you or me alone. The erason we both are in this kali is because of our past karma and teh law of karma or prikriti. Maharaja parikshit did not kill personified kali when he saw a positive side of Kali: Just by chanting the name of Krishna with loe and devotion one can get moksha. It is not that easy in other yugas. So, let us accept this situation created by god, and with love chant Hare Krishna. However, I would say that when the Islamists have imposed global war (jeehad) oer the world, the priority is different. Everyone has to fight this asura in any possible ways they can. There are many non violent ways to fight, and to fight violently is kshatriya dharma also. When the house is on fire, priority is not to chant or sit for meditation, but to fight the fire. Jai Sri Krishna!

Guest wrote: <<I don't know if I can wait another 427,000 years. >> I would try to give some thoughts that may help. Never worry or complain about something that cannot be changed. Most vaishnavs believe kali is here for 432000 (minus 5000) years. (A yogi, Yukteswar, however says with good reasoning that we are already out of Kali.) This yuga is not specially created by god for you or me alone. The erason we both are in this kali is because of our past karma and teh law of karma or prikriti. Maharaja parikshit did not kill personified kali when he saw a positive side of Kali: Just by chanting the name of Krishna with loe and devotion one can get moksha. It is not that easy in other yugas. So, let us accept this situation created by god, and with love chant Hare Krishna. However, I would say that when the Islamists have imposed global war (jeehad) oer the world, the priority is different. Everyone has to fight this asura in any possible ways they can. There are many non violent ways to fight, and to fight violently is kshatriya dharma also. When the house is on fire, priority is not to chant or sit for meditation, but to fight the fire. Jai Sri Krishna!

<<"Satan fears and trembles before humble souls." (Padre Pio) >> The Islamist satans delight when they find humble ones because it is so easy to kill them so that they (Islamists) can go to haven to enjoy their 72 hauris (virgins) or to convert them by force of a weapon. Other than the above comment, I am pleased with your inspiration posts here. Spirituality or God is not any one's monopoly. You have found many of these quotes from Christian world, and you will find a lot in the Vedic world too. Jai Sri Krishna!

If one wants to buy a product or service, one shops around and picks the best one could get for the price one is willing to pay. The same should be done by each person who wants to follow a religion or sampradaya. Instead, what is happening is that parents impose their religion on their children. Hindus and Christioans and some others do give freedom to their children to pick another religion when they grow. But Islam does not do it. If a Muslim quits Islam, then Koran says the he must be killed. In contrast, Hinduism says that when one is born, one is an animal only. When some sanskaras are done per vedic procedure, then only one becomes a human being. Hinduism gives full freedom for one to think and act freely. Islam gives no such freedom. So, if any HK wants to worship Mohammed, the wise thing to do is to study Koran and Hadith and the Hisntory of Islam well first to see if you like it compared to what Krishna says in Gita. Without studying Koran, Hadith, and Islam history in India and else were, it would be very foolish to say Islam is just as good as Hinduism or Christianity. Because of what Hinduism teaches, Hindus have never invadeded others country or caused any genocide. This cannot be said of Islam. So, who wants to follow Islam (Mohammed) after knowing Koran and Hadith? Jai Sri Krishna!

There several reasons why they hate HK's. I can give a few reasons: - Their ignorance. - They may be advaiti, and intolernt. - HK's do not join Hindus in deva/devi worship. HK's condemn deva/devi worship. - Prabhupada has said thing like: "We are not HIndus, we are not preaching Hinduism, etc." I wish he should not have said such thigns. Instead, he could have said, "we are teaching only a branch of Hinduism - Krishna Bhakti - in its pure form." Then no Hindu would have complained about him or Hks. - Consequently most HK's look down on Hindus, and this is not fair. Prabhupada was a Hindu, no matter what he said. What he preached IS a major branch of Hinduism. So, not giving due credit to the mother/source Hinduism was not fair/right. A Krishna bhakta is a Hindu no matter where is he born. So, if the HK's tell Hindus that Hk's also are Hindus and they do not have any problem if other Hindus worship deva/devis, then Hindus would feel good about HKs. - Also understand that Islam has caused many Hindu genocide in India. Every one in India has practiced kicking the Hindus (majority) in their own home land. So now finally the Hindus have woke up, and Hindu nationalism has come in strength. When HK' are also Hindus (being Krishna devotees) they also need to join Hindu nationalists in their struggle to (non violently) kick aggresive ideologies out of Bharat, the land of Krishna. This is very proper, because Prabhupada also has said something like, "If our movement gets in financial trouble, contact Hindus, they will help." And Hindus do support HK movement and temples. Being so, it is very proper that HK's join Hindus in their struggle as well. Not joing them does not help in any way because HK's are just as kafirs (non muslims) to Islamist as the Hindus are. Hindu temples have been attaked recently, and HK temples are not any more sacred to the Islamists. Every HK, I wish/pray, should think that the Islamist attack on Akshardham temple and Rabhunath temple are attack on their HK temple. If HK's do not care for these attacks being Krishna devotees, then it is a serious insult to the Hindus who kept Vaishnavism alive for thousands of years despite Islamist attacks for 1000 years in India. I really pray that HK's understand this and change their position and attitide towards the Hindus. I like Prabhupada very much, but I do disagree with his position on Hindus or Hinduism. jai Sri Krishna!

<<So in fact everything belongs to God. >> True. We Vedic people say: isavasya idam sarvam Everything belongs to God, Krishna. Muslims say: Everything belongs to Allah. However while Krishna says: Use what you have for Krishna and his devotees or others, Allah says to Muslims to take back the land and possessions of the kafirs (non muslims) any possible ways because it is their illegal possession just bacause they are not believing in allah. Basically Islam is not a tolerant but is very intolerant religion. So, a solution is that Hare Krishnas need to go to Muslim countries to preach Krishna's message. How? Muslims countries mostly do not allow it. So then what is the solution? Jai Sri Krishna!

<<So in fact everything belongs to God. >> True. We Vedic people say: isavasya idam sarvam Everything belongs to God, Krishna. Muslims say: Everything belongs to Allah. However while Krishna says: Use what you have for Krishna and his devotees or others, Allah says to Muslims to take back the land and possessions of the kafirs (non muslims) any possible ways because it is their illegal possession just bacause they are not believing in allah. Basically Islam is not a tolerant but is very intolerant religion. So, a solution is that Hare Krishnas need to go to Muslim countries to preach Krishna's message. How? Muslims countries mostly do not allow it. So then what is the solution? Jai Sri Krishna!

A quote from above: <<Nationalism itself is a byproduct of this illusion.>> A nationalism could be bad, good or mix, just as a religion could be so. If you say it is absolutely bad, then it means the kshatriyas of the Vedic were doing adharma only. Note that "Americanism" is also a nationalism. Another quote from above some where (in my words): <<In India no one knows Gita.>> This is far from truth. Almost every one knows what Gita is. Some may not have a copy in their possession. Remember that when Mahabharata was brpadcast on TV in India, the trains at many cities like Mubbai just stopped. People just would not go in train, and see the TV on the rail stations. However, I agree that most do not know well the message given in Gita. All know Krishna and Rama, etc. Whe Western Krishna devotees I wish should speak bad of India. No matter how it is, it has kept the Sanatana Dharma alive despite 1000 years of Islamists' efforts to kill it completely. As a result Parbhupada and others could bring that religion to the West. So, speaking bad of India, the source of Vaisnavism or Yoga/yogis or Aayurveda, is not fair. Those who understand dharma well and practice it well, need to encourge Indians in friendly manner to do the same when they are receptive. Jai Sri Krishna!

Some speak to impress how much they know or how smart they are. others speak to communicate, transer their knowledge or message in a way the listener(s) can understand. Jai Sri Krishna!

Krishna says, "every one follows my path". He also says prikriti (nature/maya) with her three modes is also under Him. Those who are under the mode of ignorance follow books like Koran. Those who live by Krishna's instructions given in Gita well, are in the mode of goodness and eventually become above the three modes. So there are two kinds of people, those who follow and live by Krishna's word. They are called suras. The others are under the full control of maya, slave of their senses, who are called asuras. They alwasy fight with each other in this material world. Gita Chapter 16 describes divine (sura) and demoniac (asura)natures. So, the fight or wars in this world cannot be avoided. One just to decide on which side one want to fight. The fight could be nonviolnet or violent, but the world alwasy would have it. When a follower of Koran says Allah and Krishna are same, then he should be willing to follow Krishna's message well also. The concept of Allah and his message in Koran is very different from the concept of Krishna and His message in Gita. That is the couse of the current global war. Jai Sri Krishna!

Krishna says, "every one follows my path". He also says prikriti (nature/maya) with her three modes is also under Him. Those who are under the mode of ignorance follow books like Koran. Those who live by Krishna's instructions given in Gita well, are in the mode of goodness and eventually become above the three modes. So there are two kinds of people, those who follow and live by Krishna's word. They are called suras. The others are under the full control of maya, slave of their senses, who are called asuras. They alwasy fight with each other in this material world. Gita Chapter 16 describes divine (sura) and demoniac (asura)natures. So, the fight or wars in this world cannot be avoided. One just to decide on which side one want to fight. The fight could be nonviolnet or violent, but the world alwasy would have it. When a follower of Koran says Allah and Krishna are same, then he should be willing to follow Krishna's message well also. The concept of Allah and his message in Koran is very different from the concept of Krishna and His message in Gita. That is the couse of the current global war. Jai Sri Krishna!

One who decides to commit suicide does not think there is any hope for his problems' solution. So, he does not have faith that God could help him either. So, he will not be able to chant or think of god at his last moment. If he has faith in god and His message, he would know that suicide is not a good idea, but is sin. Doing suicide and mechanically chanting does not help. Jai Sri Krishna!

The Nar-Narayan incarnation occured a long time ago before Krishna inarnation. Both are same - vishnu tatva. Vaishnav aacharya believe that the original God is Krishna who appeared and displayed his full opunelce when he came as Himself - Krishna. The lilas of both are different. Jai Sri Krishna!

Hardly any Muslim thinks to follow Ramkrishna or any other religion. Due to Ramkrishna's practice of Islam, the Hindus got the illusion that Islam is as good as Hinduism or all religions are same. That and guruless sadhanas did not help any one, could not help. Jai Sri krishna!

How to get koshar milk? There is Horizon Dairy that claims they treat cows humanely. So, our family uses that product. Does any one know first hand how they tret cows? Another alterntive is that A vaishnav org. or a rich vaishnav should go in dairy business, and some cow worshippers should provide free or low cost seva to the dairy to keep price competitive. or the vaishnavas who purchase the milk should willingly pay higher price for this koshar milk. Finally, do not buy milk and be happy. Jai Sri Krishna!

He said, "karisye vachanam tava". Very nice brahamsatra on this thread. Jai Sri Krishna!

I can see here that asuras come in disguise of suras and tell us Islam is very good. Some even tell or will tell "Islam is tolerant and religion of love and peace." Note that they tell it to the Hindus, who are already non violent. They do not tell it to Bin Laden and his party. So, when any one preaches Islam here or tells it is tolerant or just as good a Hinduism, then we need to tell him or her, to go first to Bin Laden and party to preach them, and never come here untill Laden and party give up violence and cross border terrorism. The Vedic people cannot be fooled any more. The Hindus and Bharat are the victims of Islam for 1000+ years. So, to know what Koran and Hadith say, we need to see the sources presented on Hindu web sites. Or, we can find which translstion Saudi Arabia's wahabis says is corrcet. Those who know Islam and Hinduism would say that these two are 180 degree apart like north and south poles. See the half page at: http://islamexposed.com/ Jai Sri Krishna!

J N Prabhu wrote: <<In summary, the present caste system has been manufactured by men for the purpose of exploiting society. >> I believe that it is going away now. Every Hindu org. needs to stop malpractice and promote correct practice of dharma. Jai Sri Krishna!

When one uses intelligence to get something to satisfy physical senses, then it is material intelligence. Whent the intelligence is used to get something according to Krishna's instructions to please Him, then that intelligence is spiritual intelligence. Intelligence is a God given tool like a knife, e.g. It can be used for good or bad purpose. To not use for Krishna and for the sense gratification only is to do bad karma. Jai Sri Krishna!