Bishadi

neuroscience

Neuro science is off because the model still considers chemical reactions and ionized material movement versus energy exchanges; the model is wrong! In fact all associations of living things are incorrect and I have spent a lifetime to prove it and why this will be the unifying framework because once this is universally shared, all the walls of separation will be lowered so we can see each other.

 

But we aren't programmed to do cell division to reproduce or sprout a bud. One scientific reason for this is, viruses and bacteria are so much more resiliant than human beings are. If we reproduced by split ourselves in half every few hours, then the viruses and bacteria would immediately take over, as one bacteria can make 8 million more in 24 hours.

the human intestine alone sheds and replaces 100 billion cells daily (24 hours)

So we humans are very complex animals and some of us are subjected to extremely intense urges that are biological in nature, especially when we are young. Why?

Instinct. The same path of ‘life’ in all cases; purposed to continue.

 

Not because we are sinful and bad and born from sin, but so the species can reproduce. I like the idea that God/dess is so loving that S/He understands that and even and thought ahead about what a frightening experience this would be for any sane rational teen or adult.

Thought? Comes from brain matter, show me another physical case of thought, please.

For someone raised to be good and to follow all of the rules and then: O-MI-GOD omigod omigod omigod: I have to have you!!!!...and then just play any teenaged angst song like Brandy's "Have You Ever Loved Someone?" ["Have you ever loved someone so much you can't sleep at night..."] and *sigh*.

Chocolate has the same effect on some people but I will agree that urge to continue or reproduce is about as strong as any single operative anything alive will ever have. Just think the male black widow spider dies to reproduce but does it willingly. Not to mention protecting an offspring by most species.

That is sooooo scary of a thing to have happen to you: the infatuations that can pop up when you are doing everything in your power to be good.

And be happy a “pop’ occurred or you would not be here suggesting God does not want us to reproduce. Like I said before, rules apply to all, if it was not good then why would we enjoy it so much, (hard wired) if the rules are to be absolutely followed; then the next generation is doomed! The key to understand the old teaching is that this ‘effect’ must be moderated by our consciousness and compassion to not allow this to be over indulged because this pursuit will result in a rude abusive set of unbridled instinct.

 

So I like the idea that God/dess thought ahead and "Hmmm: Well, if We are going to give Our human children these incredibly strong reproductive urges, Let's also put some stories out there to purify that strong impulse which is going to pop up and maybe even scare them with all of its strength and intensity."

God is not on a separate thrown, ‘thinking’ about anything. It was men who saw that the reproductive “instinct” of this beast “man” can be quite cruel and violent. Look at most animal on the globe, reproduction ‘rights’ are what causes most all conflicts in nature, of course second to just eating.

 

Cuz really: who would reproduce if you knew what really comes afterwards?

Nagging, kvetching, tons of bills to pay, get your kid into the right school, teenagers rebelling, too busy working to even have sex anymore: oy vey!

selfish beasts aren’t we. Each of them listed are the selfish thoughts of a person. Oh poor me! Yet you would die for that off spring in such an immediate reaction, because to continue your existence is hard wired by the total, God 'himself.'

It makes sense that this story might be told

by the elders to the younger generation in that same way that it is used in China, Japan, and Korea: to instill the values that the society's stability and well-being is more important than the individual's preferences.

It is why reproduction is absolute lest there would be no society. The ills of men are the selfish afflictions we do to another for selfish purpose but as God is compassionate and we have this direct ability, we must be compassionate to others with care and consideration, but that does not mean abstain from a necessity to continue life.

How can such a beautiful thing be bad ever, if compassion is kept? All the other items are selfish whining; I don’t want kids, school, feeding them, responsibility to nurture and teach.

What if your parents thought this way, God would never reside within to see this beautiful existence from your eyes and you would not be here. Think! The truth is easy once you release the preconception previously imposed. Just another oppressive ideal theology has created, it’s basic common sense.

Because it must be known with absolution; God is not ignorant. The total is why we are here, man is ignorant to ‘think’ he knows what God’s ‘thoughts’ are just because man cannot understand.

I like being aware of my weaknesses and I deal with them but it is just stupid to think God is back tracking on the evolution. We are conscious, we know what is good and bad and when I need help I sit in humility and contemplate removing the self for understanding within compassion. If you want the truth, sit with the total and allow the truth to be known.

 

Out of His sweet will He can enter your consciousness and you may feel, "Oh some new experience I am having within my consciousness and when He withdraws it, "Oh where did that go? I cannot find it, but I liked it very much, it was very sweet and made me exceptionally happy." That is adhoksaja. It is Absolute good. Coming in His connection nothing can remain atheist.

Always there but I like this representation. I see it as in humility of just being, the total is known and never a lie but with true knowing of this being. We become a part of the total instead of a separate selfish thing.

And as time goes by and the ability to remove the self you can live with this always. Now this can be seen of every sect of God’s children.

 

There is definitely siddhanta that can explain the esoterics of the Divine and you can look it up online, written by those much more scholarly than myself.

One of my areas of academic training and expertise is in the Expressive Arts, so my appreciation of Hinduism is colored through that lens filter.

My personal feeling is that if there is a God/dess, how much S/He must love us: how patient and kind. And if there is a God/dess, then how well S/He must understand us: the entire range of human nature, foibles and all.

And how sweet it is! that They would understand us so well and so intimately the full range of human nature, that they would gift us with these kathas.

I like the Gaudiyas' idea that if there is a God/dess then S/He must enjoy laughing, joking, singing, dancing, and telling stories as much as I do.

And I like the Gaudiyas' idea that if there really is a Supreme Personality of God/desshead : then as above, so below...the Chick is really the one in charge, and just lets the Guy act big and talk big and think that He is.

Classic! Gotta love it!

Stunning and beautiful in expressing your point of view, how nice a talent to possess.

 

the Chick is really the one in charge, and just lets the Guy act big and talk big and think that He is

Watch most any critter in the globe; same thing but nice to see this wisdom shared.

Although there may be some difference of opinion on the perspective of God, who could interrupt this logic and care towards scholarly pursuits and understanding. Soon you will know ‘him/her’ as a local immediate presence once you see ‘him/her’ as of everything. To know this Love, tenderly, help a child know a butterfly, today and see into ‘his/her’ eyes. Kiss your parents on the cheek and tell them you are thankful and your whole body will immediately know the compassion and Love of God. Walk in these footsteps and be always of knowing.

I must say these are the kids who will be our future. Thank you and keep that sparkle. My name is Todd please if there is anything I can offer, I would be honored.

 

Technically, the freedom of choice is simultaneously our greatest strength and weakness.

That's an understatement!

 

 

Atrocities across the globe are always committed by people who believe, through their reason, that their way is better, or that their thought is better than the one besides them. Not to mention the lack of reason in certain individuals leading them to believe in the wrong path of their leader.

Beautifully put but atrocities or false representations are usually either because of just being mislead or of selfishness.

 

 

Animals have no such problems, as they are continually in harmony with Nature. Humans on the whole, however, do not do so and are more or less parasites, in a pessimistic light. Freedom of choice, then, could be seen as a disastrous aspect of Humanity, leading one to believe that we would be much better off as animals.

woops.... a swing and a miss.....

 

Think about it. beast ... kill each other with no thought of feelings. We must not ...

 

Same with boinking ... what fun that would be, but our partners would be harmed by this life style.

 

So as nature seems pretty harmoneous, it is quite cruel and vial in the conscious sense of reasoning. It would be beastly but with the one side of care we also have such a selfish side, which can eclipses the cruelty of the instinctive. We have the ability to damage many others for our own selfish gain.

 

Yes, and with such freedom, a sense of responsibility can be nurtured and developed. Bringing us to fullness of stature.

Awesome! As we can create yet be responsible to gear output towards positive growth.

 

 

 

And with this sense of freedom and responsibility we can express our intrinsic individuality to it's fullest. With the quality of benignity increasing with full maturity.

 

Not sure on the 'benignity' but it rolls nicely. Freedom or Consciousness is the gift offering that knowledge of the total; God.

 

Yes I feel so to that freedom of choice is so important. It is a quality that God in wisdom has given us for all eternity to possess it seems.

 

My previous post was not referring to anything you have said. I was referring to the header of the original post in a touch of sarcasim. I must confess, sarcasim is not one of my best qualities. I think I must have been having a bad hair day yesterday. Please forgive me.

 

In fact I find your writings very positive and enlightening. I really enjoy reading your writing Bishadi. It also is good for developing my reading skills and thinking processes. Keep it coming, friend.<?xml:namespace prefix = o />

 

Friends do show care an you have. Thank you!

 

I like to view freedom of choice as that gift within consciousness. Within consciousness we can realize or feel and in doing so it implies choice.

 

This resolves to a physical applicability that this choice is how we can Love. Otherwise the only Love would be as a intent to continue living; instinctive.

 

Best put in the context that without freedom of choice we could never know Love!

 

SO yes, it is beautiful to have freedom of choice.

 

In this way, Krsna explained the duty of a woman. He also stressed the point of serving the husband:

Awe a flaw in interpretation of suggested belief or a blatant flaw in the character of the belief.

 

……"Even if he is not of very good character, or even if he is not very rich or fortunate or even if he is old or invalid on account of continued diseases, whatever her husband's condition, a woman should not divorce her husband if she actually desires to be elevated to the higher planetary systems after leaving this body.

The bond between a man and women is equal in every capacity of required responsibility to the other.

God does not set this tone. What is right is the commitment to each aware not to harm, disrespect, or otherwise cause pain to the other without regard to feelings or the most compassionate representation for the other.

There is no side. Some men are more dominant in personality and some women are more dominant; the commitment between the two is of their own accord and there is no influence or set rules other then compassion to govern the individuals responsibilities. If they walk funny and had still found Love then that is their gift but no other is to impose as to what is ‘normal.’ If they found Love so be it but it is the compassion and honesty that is the rule.

 

Besides that, it is considered abominable in society if a woman is unfaithful and goes searching for another man.

Same for a man ….. we (men) are recognized as continuously checking the menu but never ever think women do not have reproductive instincts as well.

 

Such habits will deter a woman from being elevated to the heavenly planets, and the results of such habits are very degrading.

What planets? Show it in reality or just dream because you’re reading truth. Remember equality, as women are ½ of our existence as every man or a woman born was born from women, period!

 

A married woman should not search for a paramour, for this is not sanctioned by the Vedic principles of life. If you think that you are very much attached to Me and you want My association, I advise you not to personally try to enjoy Me. It is better for you to go home, simply talk about Me, think of Me, and by this process of constantly remembering Me and chanting My names, you will surely be elevated to the spiritual platform. There is no need to stand near Me. Please go back home."

Then

 

The instruction given herein by the Supreme Personality of Godhead to the gopis was not at all sarcastic.

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Such instructions should be taken very seriously by all honest women.

This last line should read “Such instructions should NOT be taken seriously by all honest women.” And that would fix the rude assumption nicely! Honest women don’t believe the BS of ever being less then men!

 

The chastity of women is specifically stressed herein by the Supreme Personality of Godhead.

Right …. This is an incorrect interpretation~ If it was followed by all women; we would be extinct! The rules of existence are for all not just some.

 

Therefore this principle should be followed by any serious woman who wants to be elevated to a higher status of life. Krsna is the center of all affection for all living creatures.

“Krsna …. Is of all living creatures and without these creature copulating there would not be continued life for Krsna to observe this existence. Remember, Life is of Krsna in all cases whether of the instinctive critters or of us; that conscious ‘life’ that knows it exists.

Reproduction just offer us more of “Krsna” to Love.

The only reason for anything ‘chaste’ is because men and women both have a real tendency to enjoy sex, and the ills of selfish pursuits, have and do, damage others. These damages that we do for our own desires are the problem. Not God or Krsna not wanting us to procreate. That is ridiculous.

But to finish this on a biased side the purpose for putting so much on women is that men can over power women and take it, so the idea was ‘please refrain from stepping on a real weakness of man by flaunting!’

Then again watch today’s teenager’s they act just like adolescent critters of instinct. It’s natural and our instinct will take a big toll if we are not careful.

So please …. Let’s not ever think the almighty or Krsna, Vishnu or what ever would be telling us not to procreate! That is just silly!

 

This is a very nice sentiment, much appreciated Bishadi.

 

Thanks and good day, sorry about calling 'everyone' an American. I do love the place but our leaders leave much to be desired in representing my views.

 

Straight jackets tend to get a little tight around the armpits.

 

Someone once said to me, "don't let anyone put you in a box."

Good advice at the time. Still good advice now. Maybe it is an eternal truth!?

 

Anyway.....to the question of

My citizenship on my birth certificate is Australian. Much to the disappointment of my fellow patriots (and general opinion), and due to the subtle influence of Krsna consciousness teachings...I don't know if I am Autralian any more! What a pickle!

 

Maybe I, am American? Am I?

 

Since I do play alot in the science region and have real difficulty with the current model, when i open up suggestions in my less then perfect articulation, sometimes I am considered a little touched. It is why I rarely communicated in the field during the last 20 years; I waited until I was positive the framework was correct.

 

As for theology well I always knew I had a different view even as a kid, when I was told to 'do unto others as you would unto yourself.' That changed me and then from there just studied every sect I could before realizing none of them have it right. Every one have quality and wonderful insights but all of them are just a weeeeee short of getting it right.

 

So just imagine how nutty I have to be to be able to couple theology with the sciences. Maybe a little long sleeved jacket with a cute bow in the back should be in my fashion line.

 

The idea was if we are conscious we have choice. As a <?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com<st1:country-region><st1:place>USA</st1:place></st1:country-region> citizen; freedom of choice is synonymous to being an American in the view.

I know it is quite debatable and I apologize for not being clear and never wished to imply a negative other then to suggest the beauty of ‘freedom of choice.’

IN the other context of the “African” American…. If they vote then no one needs to be adding an adjective otherwise I will begin calling myself the “Best American.” See it makes no sense.

 

Equal; man, women, race, religion!

So it was my ignorance for using the analogy in more then one sense. Oops!

 

"I am an American. Where is my category and straight jacket?"

 

 

 

 

Bishadi,

You are one of the rare souls that don't fit a category.

So long as you are having some fun with the devotees, Krsna directed you.... like all of us to a very blessed path.

Stay away from the straight jackets, they limit your freedom of expression.

Real life is beautiful.

God is kind

Chant Hare Krishna

 

Thanks! The truth with as much honesty as I am capable and if what is being said is something of quality then i did something good!

 

God is everything to me!

 

why does God have to be one dimensional?

Why can't God be all of the above?

 

In fact I think we could say that God is ALL of the above and even more than that.

Sounds like person who is looking for something.

Try each "God":

Authoritarian;

 

Who's definition describes 'unfaithful' or "ungodly" .... then 'who' is going to 'punish'? From who's description?

 

I have met one African American in my life time; someone who was born their and became a citizen, here. The rest of the variant Americans born in here are just american. Any other definition of this is isolating, self preserving or just prejudice

 

Benevolent:

 

How deeply involved is involved and at what scale or interaction; Psychological? Molecular? Then by which definition or which sect?

 

Distant:

 

“God is more of a Cosmic force that set the laws of nature in motion.”

 

Not bad! So the question is, is “God” something separate at some distance?

 

Critical:

 

“unhappy” and ‘exact divine judgment’ Who? Where? How? And finally, When?

 

Then we are back to “who’s definition describes” What makes God happy? Where is God? How does God interact? And When will this judgment occur?

 

Then lastly, “American” how nice it is to be able to have the freedom of these questions as it is this ability to ask and correspond with these questions are we ever to know in a collective understanding where as eventually the scope is universal to defined principle of majority.

 

But this can not occur least until the definition of Who, What, Where and How this ever mentioned “God” is!

 

The best extrapolation so far would be the ever ending interdependence of everything argumentatively represented 2 dimensionally as ‘yin and yang’ but functionally addressed as the concept; ‘change,’ in which neither are measured nor known without the other noted.

 

So to put this in a grounded physical state; the interaction of mass and energy; which neither could exist without the other hence this resolves to observing that all of each are relevant and isometrically; One!

 

We are here! We know it! Just by that we have choice, can create and then Love, each a description used in almost every theological representation of God.

All other things follow the laws of interaction (environment) which can be seen as instinctive yet universal at every scale except with a conscious thing.

Consciousness offers the window to know all of it least the descriptive mechanisms of language because of no abilities to involve a single set of “principles of majority.”

 

I am an American. Where is my category and straight jacket?

 

 

i dont know much about the Kalki dude or can't say exactly what is His mission, only He knows fully.

But He says in BG that whenever the cycle of Karma and Dharma is affected severly in this Earth, He manisfets Himself, get rid of evil people, protects the good people and re-establishes Dharma back.

 

1) God does not Know but has to judge His own creation

Sound familiar.

Whatever you have belief on this, but please just stop believing the rubbish "Judgement Day". That seems to be completely illogical to me

 

At the least the "Judgement Day" is a waste of time and spraining of neck (looking above for the messiah) at the worst it is a major Sin, since expecting Earth (which has feed you and your so many other generations) to be destoryed.

So forgot about when Kalki will come what would be his mission, whether He will be riding white horse or black horse, whether His sword can take over the necular missile, etc., start chanting the Gods name (whatever name you like), stop the Hatred towards other living beings.

Never could I harm.

See how even one sect in a sense is sharing a similar story but please don’t put me in any pigeon hole. I represent no sect other then to say I have learned a bit from all of them.

Take a shot at reading a few line from a multitude of representations you might learn something yourself. Maybe you will find, as many suggest, return to teach the children and teach the new generations about what really is, versus what some say is real.

The only thing I could say about some judgment day is when the masses of people, are aware of what damage has been done, then people will do the punishment. Man will push the buttons.

As for me, I just tell it like it is and you should find, I won’t lie to you, ever! Bead around the bush to avoid certain items; absolutely! But nothing here in on any thread anywhere, nope, won’t be fibbing maybe rude, maybe crude, but not lies!

 

Can’t! Me, myself and I won’t let us.

Hello and good day to you,

 

Sorry but I may not be able view that article for some time but I can still offer a little conversation on these points.

 

The previous article I posted was about how electromagnetic waves can induce mystical experiences, like drugs can. If these two methods are able to induce mystical experiences, how can anyone say that mystical experiences are authentic?

 

Their article is a little short as to know any and every single atom or element that associates or shares a valance to become a molecule does so with electromagnetic radiation.

Metabolisms are firing off a whole bunch of little burst of emr constantly.

Now entangles masses are the observed ‘phenomena’ as some may still call it. An energy release can entangle neighborhood masses and one can affect the other yet the distance is not an issue.

That ‘spooky action at a distance’ Einstein was talking about.

 

While I am still trying to meditate and chant, any sort of peace I get now is destroyed simply because now I have the notion that I'm inducing this state, and that brain chemistry is involved, there is no spirit to ponder upon, no God to interact with, or contemplate upon. Any feeling of divinity, or a divine presence is merely a matter of brain chemistry, at least that's how I have come to look at it (not willingly) when I do get a calm relaxed feeling along with the feeling I am in the presence of God. This state is destroyed as soon as the notion pops into my head that it's not real.

Wow! I feel for you. Do you realize what theology has done to most on this globe? You should see the variant renditions of what God or that ‘thought’ of him or the ‘things’ that are supposed to be God are. I am so confused:>:>

God is all of it. Close your eyes and feel but quit looking. There is nothing to see and the only thing personal are the interaction you have with others.

Who you talking too?

 

I really want to believe in God, and that there's a soul,

Great! You have a love for it all and thankful, right? That is beautiful

 

 

And ‘the soul man’ is what you leave. Your existence is what you do based on this life right now. If you want to be alive in the flesh; make babies, if you want to be alive as a bird; feed them, as the rose; plant them.

If you want to perish be bad and selfish. Isolate yourself from being a quality reinforcement to this existence.

Having this set of ‘thoughts’ or memories carried over to some ultimate ‘heavenly’ location is quite selfish and please don’t get caught up into some ‘raising to the flesh’ thing.

Reincarnated, everyday! Do you shed skin cells? Are critters eating them? Otay your energy is moving on as simple as that is but the point is that is what we are; alive with choice here in this period. We are but a rock that knows it exists but as the rock is of this world we are of this universe and with this consciousness we are in fact able to know all of it at this time.

That may be tough to comprehend but let me tell you them monks on the hill are about as selfless as it gets, know exactly what I am talking about.

So in one sense reinforcing and participation is what gives and supports ‘life’ but to know God, any isolation of any interaction slows the awareness. To be capable of just being, removed of needs, wants or predeterminations; just be, take in what is, without too much thought. Recognize the interaction and learn from every one of them and life will begin to be an experience versus some search or chore. If the bowl is dirty; wash it!

 

Every mystical state that has been documented by scientists seems to have some correlation with brain activity, which can now be measured.

What’s wrong with reading brain waves during a reaction? If you closed your eyes and imagined a car crashing into you and believed it occurring (like a dream) would you react?

 

Doesn't the brain have to be completely silent in order for a mystical experience to be truly authentic? For the soul's existence to be validated?

removed of predeterminations or of needs? Yep!….. quite? Dead!

What would constitute an authentic mystical experience anyway?

Premonitions …..have to trust them … have to trust yourself and the input over the selfish thoughts. “I don’t need this ‘’ No, I am going that way…… The point is each analyze a scenario differently, the correct answer is usually quite natural but then another may be predetermined based on environment and ‘per se’ character and even logically.

And with such doubts re: the validity of these mystical experiences, how does pursuing a personal and direct experience of God constitute proof when there is a mountain of evidence to indicate that personal experience is easily a product of brain chemistry and thus most likely delusion?

The delusion is to think you have no effect and are a separate thing.

 

How can one convince himself that the experience he's having is real?

Quit thinking you are something. Be aware and alive and let ‘you’ live. Since consciousness became, compassion will do the best; you need to live the rest.

 

In case the question was pointed to me:

 

Hari OM:

 

1) Earth is still not a radioactive Hell, as far as I know

Good but do the Vedic scripts say, "radioactive Hell' ?

 

 

2) Some people may have intention to turn it like that, but intention does not immediately turns into reality, it would also need the capacity, if our Old Rishis had said that for 10000 years Kali Yuga will remain a "Golden Age" for all aspiring spirtualist then it will remain so, how much ever effort against it will not materialize (remember the multiple failed bombs over Ayodhya? )

Take the BS out and ask yourself; if everybody was aware of theri responsibility to life like the Bee is to the hive. What would we have here amongst the people of this globe?

 

 

 

Since because you don't know at the current point of time the technology means that would counteract radioactive waste it does not mean Lord Kalki , or even a man in future point of time will not also would never knew it. It may even be possible that the radioactive waste becomes a source of cleaning other pollutants , no idea. Anyhow that is a point much ahead in future instead of speculating there, it is better to accept what Chaitnya Mahaprabhu says and do the best possible to your capacity "NOW"

 

First, you like you radioactivity as something to be affraid of yet you have never once experienced it yourself as an ailment? Am I correct? Just media and the hype of what it can do, correct?

 

Second, if you know much about this Kalki dude; tell me what his main purpose or duty outside of killing people is.

 

The killing I see is that once people are aware of the full scope of understanding a relavance to what is occuring now in politics and capitalism will be made open and the people will condem the oppressors and corrupt as they will become the last in line.

 

Try the thought but read a little on this Kalki and tell us what is his mission.

Interesting analogy with wisdom yet misplaced; for example.

 

So the person who is taking very much pleasure, dancing in the sea like fish, so he is contaminating that modes of nature so that in next life he will become a fish.

As we ‘splash’ in this period, the effects are living. ‘Contaminating,’ would represent a negative, such as raping the resource or like spilling oil over the ocean and killing life. A negative that will be diluted and eventually to become extinct.

But the input of ‘love’ like them that feed the little fish and nurture and provide his energy for the benefit of the life; his life will have roots and the ‘splash’ will continue to be alive.

 

 

He'll be very free to dance with the ocean. (laughter) Now it will take again millions of years to come to the stage of human being. JalajA nava-lakSANi sthAvarA lakSa-viMzati. He has to pass through the fish life. There are 900,000 different species of life. Then you again come to the land--you become trees, plants, and so on. Two millions different forms you have to go through. That is evolution.

If an idea to leave this planet is to become a necessity based on the usefulness remaining becoming suspect, it goes to reason and if our friend here saw these things then by exposure we think, meditate and offer our most humble approach as to the comments and thoughts, that the total (God) may please offer the gift and share more for this to be better understood.

This is why it is suggested to read from all people of the globe; each has something!

 

There are many better planets.

Not yet known!

 

You can go there, heavenly planets. There you can live for ten thousands of years.

How? Oh Vedic literature, how?

 

Ten thousands of years, and that is also not our year. The higher planetary system, their one day--our six months.

Goes to reason since the planet take a long time to circle its sun that days would be longer but the effect would be opposite.

If on earth we live 100 years, it would be roughly 16 years there. Nice thought!

 

In that way you can live there for ten thousands of years. And the standard of living condition is thousand times better. Therefore it is called heavenly. So if you like, you can go there.

So that is heaven! I prefer here, I have a fishing hole that is the just the best producer and I love the flowers and the smells, sounds and well, everything. (to a point)

 

UrdhvaM gacchanti sattva-sthaH [bg. 14.18]. YAnti deva-vrataH devAn. Everything is explained.

Sure it is! Then tell us, your brethren, please how to cure diabetes. There are a bunch of kids that are suffering but if the sciences focused on how proteins associate in a physics (feshbach management) environment, then understanding how rogue (resonance/protein) polluted an organism would be easy

 

Or if you can go, if you like you can go to the PitRloka. If you want to remain here as human being, you can also remain here, but you have to work for it to keep your position, status. Just like if you become rich man, high standard of life, you have to maintain it. Not that it will continue automatically. No, that is not possible, sir. This material world is not like that: you get one position and it will continue. No. A little discrepancy, immediately deteriorate your position. So you have to maintain it.

Then, I would have people kissing my feet all the time and I don’t think that is healthy nor would it be as prophesized or seen.

Remember, each sect has seen the truth but only when honoring and pursuing these variants does a picture come into reality. The One picture of our associated existence all governed by environment and that conscious species of life, US!

We are the only thing that steps outside of laws of nature! We are in that image! We can choose and we can be opposite of good but to know that our choice whether of good support or negative is the choice and existence we will live!

Thanks. …. This was a good item to think on this am, I hope this helps at least One.

 

 

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Everybody can see if humble without selfish intent and just because that one sect you pursue stands as a rock be humble to the brethren all over the globe and see through their eyes.

No clue what ya trying to say! use formal English

 

we are all equal to know the total ‘we are conscious’ and until any is humble to learn from all man does the real scope of understanding our existence become real.

 

As you mentioned it as theology ( I never say them theology, its coined by modern day fools and rascals), its science , the science of soul.

What ever floats your boat but without the sciences we would never have had this conversation. So get real with living instead of dreaming with theology.

 

Well everything has got PERFECT meaning, but the basic requirement to learn in the spiritual science is the humblenes and surrender, well the proud people have no place here.

I disagree! Most are here to learn and no where does this forum suggest; ‘the truth is left outside.’

 

Be happy with your material science.

Never was, nor am now. Go onto the physics sites throughout the world, see me telling them they are wrong.

There is no such thing as Dark Matter or Dark Energy and energy is not a difference of potentials. I have been a physics nut since a boy and have been debating this since I was rudely rejected and then left all established learning for one purpose; the truth. I quit learning on there time and have given everything to learn because of care and compassion and a promise was made to finish the final chapter.

Many pursue based on gains, money and recognition; not this one. There is only one purpose; honesty and to give the next generations the chance we did not have. To have the ability to understand how and why we even exist.

God is the total and it is only because of honoring him does man even learn the sciences. We pursue to understand as God intended. Are you on a computer? That book didn’t make it. Learn with questions versus putting the ‘old’ foot in the ……

Greatest comp your mind; when the mind is Kaput u need a comp, see books its writen duriong the age of kali, the mind cant remember things , so needs a comp .. U see again the books have taken its part,

Do you suggest not honoring the works of our fathers?

 

afterall they are written by supreme he he

Show me one book ever in the existence of any period on this globe where God wrote something! Ever!

So now my question to you; show me one fib I wrote! And be careful, you know who, is with you and the only thing that can come from you on this will either be of selfish preservation or you show you reduced learning or exposure but if you must, try…. Read everything you can google up on Bishadi and see.

No science is immune nor any sect all over this globe; I say either print the truth or go lay by your dish because the next generation is coming into this world and finally the one single set of understanding is to be known. The majority want the truth and who cares for the BS theology has imposed. “

Who is the most renowned leader in this sect, alive? Bring him into a discussion and let’s see if I can hold true.

 

It makes no sence to citique without having the tiniest knowledge about spirit and its significance..just blabbering wont do

First, in spirit is where this was born and where I reside in absolution; I know I am a part of this existence and it is only by knowing both does it become real! [

 

Well, what I would like to know is what is going to neutralize all these thousands of tons of radioactive waste that is stored around the planet as waste from nuclear power plants? They say it takes millions of years for nuclear radioactivity from this waste to stop. As well, if we have the great nuclear war that Srila Prabhupada has even mentioned in his books and the world becomes a radioactive wasteland, then how can the be any "Golden Age" for 10,000 years if the world is a radioactive nightmare? I don't see how the Earth can have any "golden age" if a big portion of the planet is a radioactive Hell.

Can’t share much since the story is of belief but I can state there have been over 2000 above ground nuclear detonation thus far and we are still associating.

 

If another Satya-Yuga starts after Lord Kalki comes at the end of Kali-Yuga and kills as the demoniac people of the world, there is still going to be millions of tons of radioactive waste stored all over the world in bunkers and mountain caves.

Lord who? Just a guy like you and I or who ever you may wish to point out who has given to this existence with pure intent. A Lord; NO! Otherwise I should call you Lord and it is rightful to anything you create and sustain of good and quality; you are the Lord of that chain!

Yes, everyone knows that damage has been done to the environment but that is nothing compared to ‘life’ as it will continue.

 

I don't see how there can be any great Satya-Yuga if there are millions of tons af radiocative waste all over the planet leaking out and contaminating the whole planet.

 

I guess somebody is going to say that there is a partial dissolution of the universe at the end of Kali-Yuga and the Earth with be cleansed by a fire that comes out of the mouth of Anantadeva who is floating in the Garbha Ocean that fills the bottom half of the Universe?

‘that comes out of the mouth of Anantadeva who is floating in the Garbha Ocean’ sounds like a nuclear submarine maybe an ancient seer viewed and I never said these things don’t or will not occur but what is said is what ‘is’ the article or setting that will bring man together; knowledge.

Only in understanding do any of us have a chance and that understanding will and does maintain with both the sciences and theology, vindicating the old as well as establishing responsibility to the new all to be known and realized in a real existence and not in some fairy tale renditions.

In other word; not as the seers are ‘quoted’ but as it can be further described and understood!

The planets were considered roaming the night sky but now we know differently, right?

 

from krishnadasa

Honestly , i totally disagree with whatsoever theory the modern science brings out about the civilisation. On the otherhand, i firmly belive our scriptures, they dont change with time do they, but these science is very imperfect and cant see anything in the future.

Everybody can see if humble without selfish intent and just because that one sect you pursue stands as a rock be humble to the brethren all over the globe and see through their eyes.

As for the sciences; they are universal and theology are renditions of men based from knowing but without the ability to articulate for example a 6 armed Shiva or Ganasha; a man with an elephants head; the son of Shiva who is of Vishnu the supreme, some blue guy!

And you represent what?

 

Science is very imperfect, it cant even see the presence of supreme lord and his manifestation!! Maya is heavily fooling the modern scientist.... God save modern scientists......

God is the total and it is only because of honoring him does man even learn the sciences. We pursue to understand as God intended. Are you on a computer? That book didn’t make it. Learn with questions versus putting the ‘old’ foot in the ……

 

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Thats kinda sad. I was really looking forward to the end of the world. Then

everyone can be liberated from suffering, rich or poor black or white.

The 21st century is an evil period which has seen a phenomeneal rise in all

kinds of miseries like terrorism, climatic changes, increasing hostility between

various groups, perversion, complete indifference to humanity and a ludicrous

rat race for economic supremacy among nations and people alike.Truly ,this is the WORST century!!!

Kali is over!

 

What is to cure the ills of man will be knowledge, nothing supernatural no God like intervention; just a commitment by another to step over all lines for one purpose; to know and then share. Then to understanding the environment will offer a setting to prepare and continue but God is not going to stop a polar reversal even if you beg.

 

The primary cause of the dinosaur extinctions was a solar flare from the sun during one of the earth’s magnetic field reversals, (the earth had no shield) and was not caused by an asteroid as Luis Alvarez and his son suggested. The iridium came from volcanoes; the reversal cause increased tectonics, very similar to what is being recognized now.

 

Yes, we are going through another and it is the primary cause of the global warming, currently. As our magnetosphere goes through the anomalies increased solar radiation is being captured. Do a little homework and then ask as you wish. Start with the sun as it’s reversals occur every 11 years or so to get a feel for what is occurring. I said back in 82’ that the northern lights were of these solar winds and solar flares and these ions are reacting with the diatomic molecules in the atmosphere.

 

Man is going to do the most damage to his own species on this globe and it is why the idea that God will be doing it since we are the only thing that ‘knows’ it exists. God is the total, associated, a part of everything but never has or ever will be a separate thing sitting on some thrown, that is man again making renditions because to him that is where God should be.

Almost like kids strapping bombs to themselves for 72 virgin maidens. I would go with the maidens myself as my instinct is still quite the beast but some blue guy or another that suggests ‘he’ crucified his child to show us he cares.

 

The key is that what the most ‘humble’ wrote did have basis and of prophetic abilities but maybe not of true descriptions. I personally enjoy reading these and try with all humility to comprehend and have come to a conclusion; they have merit. The shit will hit the fan but not quite as some suggest. (seven headed dragon eating seals or is that opening seals, oh well I forget) but in the end the truth will rein and it will be based from the sciences offering the single unifying framework for all to know and be of this singularity; God!

 

From the lions mouth, nothing other then true compassion and care for others to learn

 

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1) We all have experience of matter and that experience is in the finitude of matter. Thus the question of the source of matter must be something outside of the argument itself. God is defined as the cause of all causes. Thus without something outside of matter we can't explain the source of matter.

An error to think any matter is separate. Once knowing the properties of mass and energy it is easy to see the physical reality that there is actually nothing separate. Once a single atom combines with another, energy is involved and from there if that energy source is captured by another atom, the two atoms irregardless to space are entangled: empirical science: property; entanglement.

 

2)Free will must be outside its own cause. If you simply believe in matter you can't believe in free will.

Best comment I have seen in a long time and it is why the Christians suggest, “in God’s image.” In other words; we are a bundle of atoms (trillions) that ‘knows’ it exists: conscious.

All existence is associated by the energy, (entangled) and it is only as a conscious ‘thing’ do we have that ability to choose. Just think without choice there would be no Love! A cow is instinctive, it lives by what it needs and that is it; governed by environment!

So ‘Yes’ free will is true and then ‘yes’ what is happening may not appear to be known but fundamentally, as mass is accelerated it’s energy ‘entangled’ sheds ‘interactions’ irregardless to time and space; so knowing of then can be consciously known now.

Einstein’s; ‘spooky action at a distance.’

 

I'm sorry but the only reason I really felt like the existence of God was possible was because I heard of mystical experiences of God, that visions by Christ, by Vedic rishis, etc. justified the existence of God. But now that very foundation of reasoning is obliterated, what's left? There is no real logical argument you can make for the existence of God, at least based on mystical experiences.

Yes there is and it is by knowing the sciences, theology and learning(s) of each sect of man. Each has had a similar representation of knowing without being of that period, (prophecy) short the ability to articulate. Nothing magical and of the science just not well understood, yet; keep reading my friend …. .

 

The existence of God can never be satifactorly arrived at by trying to analyze the eperience of others.

I disagree! It is only of the building blocks each has learned and shared that we even have education not to mention theology. Do you remember the babe? They die without you and I and hence we would go extinct!

 

The material mind's nature is to accept and reject various ideas. From this platform sometimes we will accept God and at other times reject Him.

Either of compassion and care or of selfishness or of needs for ‘me alone.’ You just hit good and evil right in the head. Good; supports existence. Evil; is selfishness; separation! What makes you and I so awesome is we can be of both instinct and consciousness. We can procreate to continue our physical life as well as teach another to continue our existence.

Now do you see why the emphasis on chastity? It is said best to exist forever then live forever but I suggest both is heaven; to be alive in both. And with this I say honor your parents with life and exists within both realms of quality.

What is needed is for each individual to have his or her own personal experience with God.

ask any monk or any mountain man … without selfish input by another, as a conscious thing ‘any’ will know God … as

God is Self-revealing.

 

We can never be sure unless He chooses to make Himself known to us. Therefore one prayer that devotees use is "Oh Lord of the universe kindly be visible unto me."

As long as you never think of God as some man or elephant headed critter or even as some thing on some thrown with 6 arms, you will never know. Why do you think some say “no images”? Because there are none. Properties of.. renditions of …. But I could just as easily call you God if that is how simple you want to be or do you prefer the elephant guy also? But come on be fair have you seen all the different ideas? Globally? Have fun, look ‘em up. Be learned to know you are not alone, brother!

Try knowing that all things are associated by the energy in which they capture or emit. Try a music concert; people go into the joint knowing they like a band, watch, sing, participate and when it is done, each begins to associate as if they knew each other, kind, caring, compassionate to each other … they captured a ‘like’ energy source and built from it almost like saying; hare hare Krishna ……. It is a harmonious association for a like cause but the point is just like listening to music all intake of energy from every source is relevant but it is ‘us’ that conscious things that accepts or disregards those inputs; we can either be of positive renditions of the input or as instinctive to defend our selfishness; yet completely entangled as parts to the total; as is the true reality!

a rock thrown into the pond! Live to know this! Plant the tree. Nurture the roots!

Live forever!

I hope this is not too direct but the fact is this; all of the globes theology are saying the same thing but men have been short to define it all but a framework completely of the sciences is emerging that not only will bring all man to understanding, combining them within the sciences, (medicine), and that all our fathers of old did have had a piece of this picture, contributing and each will be found true. (to a point)

As we stand here participants to this day, our fathers are alive now within us contributing.

Honor them with understanding these things because it is of honoring them, of all sects, that this became and to know what is from their works offers the differences to know good and evil.

The good will live forever. The evil will be diluted and eventually go extinct.

The truth is here, setting the tone to shed responsibility to each, what say you?

No sect to preach from, no rituals, no fear, no desire of things; just knowledge and understanding. It is all I have to offer.

 

i have a brief knowledge about karmas.i know that karmas get extinct when they bear their fruits of action in course of time... my doubt is that how do we clear our daily karmas...

after every karma do we say 'krishnarpanam' or at the end of the day we pray to god and offer all day's karmas to the lord?

pls clarify....

thanks

-S.

Hello Sailu,

“extinct’ Karmas ? when the fruit it bares is not sweet or when the existence is of selfish regard such as the instinctive beast reins.

Every action you offer whether by mouth or other must support the “A” list; of others prior to yourself. Be aware of being a part versus being a separate 'you.'

In training, I used to ask my self; is this for me or will this offer a better setting then before to continue? Whether it be picking up trash, offering someone a ride or even to offer a piece of information allowing another to cross a puddle.

In all aspects of interactions the best ‘balance’ is to be of comprehension that to live for the self; like an old owl, who hears but never speaks, harboring learned information for a reclusive gain; or to steel, or kill, or lie, or harm or anything which is for the self prior to taking other’s into consideration are all negatives that will go extinct; cease to live.

Where a big problem sets in is in rituals; God does not need any ritualistic junk. Your commitment is within and to ‘show’ outside to another is for selfish gain. Like painting on your face; covering skin cells to profess to others. God didn’t need that, the person wants recognition or to fit a mold and it is only of others preconceptions that the mold is there!

Not eating meat; the cow is one of the best beasts to convert grasses to protein on the planet. Honor this critter as he builds the flesh you live within. Honor your fathers who live in the cells you are made with the best sustenance known.

Here is an example; the plant is alive just as the beasts. The reasons for eating one are the same for the other. The difference does not know that!

Karma is a simple item to balance; just live! Be aware of your surrounding, be aware of those around you and whom you can nurture with the gifts you have learned but be careful of the lies because you may become a pawn within the atrocities.

So do not become complacent just to become a part of a norm or ritual. That complacency can be of ignorance versus true understanding.

To settle the score and return balance; when you harm another directly answer to them. It is best to be humble, knowing your error and asking to be forgiven, then to have it said from the one you harmed. Each error is known; each is of an extinct nature; either be of life or soon to be extinct.

Honor each as if to look into the eyes of God himself for this consciousness is that life within the flesh; aware and able to feel.

 

If a guest or member is of the same source, God, as suggested in Atlanta by Prabhupada; " Anyone who presents a science of God, it doesn't matter whether he is this man or that man; he is our guru."

 

This shows that the idea of what he speaks many may not concur but I say this is of the final chapter.

 

The point is when you do not know the basis of understanding this existance within the sciences, then the path is still not known; listen to 'he' that knows.

 

It is why I am here.

 

there is not concern of things or the idea of being special, the point is the understanding of the sciences coupled with the worlds theology is the next chapter.

 

Decribing life upon molecular structures is only understood in one absolute way, this is the same of the understanding of associations and the singularity of the total.

 

So I ask; do you understand or are you stuck on just thinking you do.

 

I returned only to see what are the questions of what was written and I find ignorance of thought governed by the isolating constraint of meaningless reasoning; selfishness of thought.

 

I will stop in from time to time and if any want to read, Google up "Bishadi"

 

the enunciation of my last name ......

 

The fact of everything written is to describe life at the beginning of atoms and energy versus adam and eve and that all life is of the same thing and purpose until we "the species" became aware, "conscious" and then the period of knowing God was born.

 

From this beginning all things in thiis existanse follow the same rules and theology was only born from knowing within the humility of compassion.

 

In other words Ganasha or Vishnu or Rama or Allah, Lord and Krishna are all renditions man provided for to describe and try undertanding but let it be real clear herein and now, these things are real but now of the sciences and now of real comprehension, vindicating our forefathers that they were of knowing and that what was said is the truth, (to a point)

 

'Anyone who presents a science of God, it doesn't matter whether he is this man or that man; he is our guru.'

 

and even your prophet knew I was coming!

 

But a single individual, registered and aware.

 

and I say be glad of my arrogance, know that it is with wellness in understanding that the obsolete will move over for the next generations.

 

A sense of the One is to cure withstanding the opression felt by the children of yesterday.

 

The children of today will have the new beginning and it is of the product of all the worlds voices that a single framework is recognized. The ability to capture this was a promise made with no desire of things but to know as this "owl" has heard and has watched but the promise is to be thankful and be appreciative of having the capacity to learn and share!

 

So that finally from the babe forward a basis of understanding can be the single beginning governing both the sciences and theology, knowing both nature and God (the total) are One!

 

Good Day and please tell the children Kali is over!

 

, shanracer <NO_REPLYwrote:

even kill the good people who have strayed

> from the path. He doesnt kill out of vengence, but Love.

 

This is a beautiful point !! yes Osho was right... but our purnanas

etc have made us so much lazy that we wait for some avtar to save us

and do nothing

 

Nature takes revenge not only on those who exploite her energies,

but also on them who were inactive, when action was needed, on those

who run away from fight, where they are required to fight

 

Inaction is equally sinful, as wrong action

 

with love

 

baba

Again this is why there is hope.

 

So if you were to see, right now, would you finish the project?

 

Are you committed and if so would you be ashamed in representing no ritual least the observed by your peers?

 

Will you stand for truth, ill regardless of norm?

 

I read a very good point on why Krishna doesnt come down to Earth now.

A person asked Osho why Krishnas wasnt incarnating, as there was so

much evil in the world, and we need a person like him? Besides he has

said in the Gita he would come to save Good people when Adharma became

high?

 

Osho replied that if you look at history, any time is perfect for

Krishna to incarnate. He could have been born in middle ages, when

India was being invaded by Turks, or in 19th century by British. He

could have come in time of 2 World Wars and saved millions of lives.

But if Krishna was to be reborn everytime we face trouble, he would

have to be born everyday! He has shown us the path, why do we expect

him to still do everthing?

 

3rdly, there will always be evil. People have misunderstood that

Krishna comes to protect good people- Krishna doesnt like cowards who

sit around and expect Gods to protect them(like he told Arjuna).

Krishna expects us to fight using his help.

 

But he only comes down when evil becomes so high that even good people

are affected by it. So in Mahabharat, even good people like Bhishma

didnt say anything when Draupadi was being stripped. So Krishna doesnt

come down to destroy evil(which he can do even from the Higher

worlds), but to protect, even kill the good people who have strayed

from the path. He doesnt kill out of vengence, but Love.

 

 

So even though there is evil in the world, there are also good people

to fight it. In Ghor Kaliyug, when even the good people have become

corrupted or tired, thats when the Kalgi Avataar will come to end the

Yuga, and take the few advanced souls to create the new World.

 

This post is a of humility. The same concept all of the truly compassionate have asked. When is the truth to be born?

 

You are here! You are where the truth is to be born! The babe needs only the seed but please keep these eyes of care and compassion even when you begin to see and never let conceit interfer.

 

Follow me a bit.

 

TRANSLATION

For the purpose of maintaining his body, a liberated sage should not act, speak or contemplate in terms of material good or bad. Rather, he should be detached in all material circumstances, and taking pleasure in self-realization, he should wander about engaged in this liberated life-style, appearing like a retarded person to outsiders.

Then to find the water while in the crowd of the thirsty, shall it be known best to choose to be of self pleasure with the benefits without sharing with others?

And if one is to lead a child to drink would is be best to suggest mud does not nourish as the clean liquid is better and show how to step into the mud to reach the clean sustenance?

To ‘appear’ as retarded is a lie by misleading when contrived with purpose. “it was written this way and I will follow” the thought could be. “this is of truth, I will learn and then share’ one is true and both contradict the argument.

I am retarded in the sense, you would never know who I am but by my life-style; to live as a part, entangled and intertwined with existence and to know this is what ‘self realize’ is all about. The sage is able to convey.

And even in the closet when I do not drink but of nourishment but when the thirst arises and in the midst of others of needed nourishment then it is important to most definitely share the quenching light on the differences of mud versus clean water.

The sage you describe is having the wisdom to reassess without offending; to offer a story in without harming “another.”

What is realized of Ganesha’s Devotion and why?

To never harm ….! Knowing that the other is of the first as we are and to selfishly harm without truth is … well … to be extinct ….. If anything of damage is attached to the messages herein, then it can be attributed to an either/or.

Either, we are of truth and although esoteric or the “I” is being selfish and can only be false.

Other then terminology, please show us something of the or?

 

Goshalas nowadays have become a cheating business. "Devotees" who run these goshalas, have become money-minded and their sole aim in running these goshalas is to make money and not really care for Krishna's cows. Goshala means taking care of cows, serving cows unconditionally even if they stop giving milk, even if they are a drain on our resources, etc.

 

One important point: What about the bulls and bull calves?

 

Many "devotees" sell them inorder not to incur a loss. If the goshala has a land to be ploughed then the bulls may be useful. If not, they just eat and eat for their whole life and the people who run the goshala are duty bound to feed them the whole life. So whatever money that is earned from selling cow's milk will be spent in feeding the bulls and bull calves. So debauchee-devotees sell the bull-calves to some "like-minded" people. In other words, the bull calves end up in slaughter houses indirectly.

 

So ultimately it is impossible to run a goshala for business or profit. What ever money comes from cow's milk will be spent on feeding the bulls. That's why Krishna uses the word, "go-raksya" [bg. 18.44]. It means cow-protection. So by protecting cows one serves cows. There is no chance of making a business by goshalas unless and otherwise the bull-calves are sold or no cow gives birth to bull-calves (which is highly unlikely).

 

These materialistic money minded theives in the guise of devotees, run the goshalas. No wonder some or even many of these goshalas are run by so-called followers of Srila Prabhupada. For example, the "devotees" at "We have the Goshala built with six cow houses each capable of accommodating 16 cows. But at the moment we have 25 female calves, 9 pregnant cows, 14 full grown mother cows, 5 milking cows. We plan to augment the stock of cows to one hundred and eight by Dec 2005."

 

My question is: Where are the bulls and bull calves? Stolen? or sold to slaughter houses? The goshalas that show only cows, female calves, pregnant cows, mother cows, milking cows and no bulls or bull calves are cheating goshalas, fraud goshalas run by debauchee-devotees who make a show of dharma or protecting cows but run them to make money.

 

Sincere devtoees should be beware of these debauchees.

 

Sun to grass. Grass to cow. This is one of the most efficient exchanges of energy to consumption besides the rabbit known.

 

Where is your seed? show me O old Oak!

Not old, only committed to ‘understanding.’ No theology to claim. No university to site papers. Just me!

But ready to subject myself to any question that may be towards the sciences or theology and their marriage.

Meaning; describing life as energy upon mass and from there forth if you know your sciences we can talk. If your questions are of understanding where God came in then which rendition of the same? Each comparably universal but to understand energy at the atomic scale and the interplay of mass and energy, then the picture is pure.

This understanding is as the 'rock thrown into the pond.' Once the pebble makes contact then we begin the healing as it flows from there forth.

To know that each single interaction is of cause is not for predicting the future but to live as a part, offering the gifts we are capable to the next generations.

Being alive is ‘existing’ as a part and selfishness is a single identity without knowing, suffering. Knowing things in physical form and establishing physical benchmarks gives each the ability to know responsibility and that their living existence is forever as they sow.

Nothing different then what our fathers had left for us but now in physical application.

The problem in today’s model is 2 fold; “energy” is described incorrectly and the ‘why’ is because of the properties such as Casimir and Entanglement have not been fully applied. Dark Matter and Dark energy do not exist! What is missing is this exchange having not been addressed at that scale. The fact is that energy associates; entangled and upon mass momentum is established.

The exchange of energy upon mass is beautiful.

The requirement to address specific interrelations is almost like the magnetic field and the perpendicular plane of energy propagating through space; when each extreme reaches its peak it birth’s the seed of its opposite …...

The interplay of the ‘yin and yang’ is not without merit. The stories are as the guru could describe but a commitment was made to learn of both sides and share.

The guru learned of knowing, within, coupled with process of learning throughout life. In following many sects of many scribes and guru’s, almost any sect is with true compassion and care, as God (the total) intended, as each surviving will be of humble compassionate people.

Yet when the babes grow within environments of instinct then a bastard scenario of beliefs begin, accepting norms and rituals to appease practitioners became a reality of theological and societal beliefs.

But the one single area to be accepted on most every theological front is the medical field. And when the framework is pursued then the physical applicability can be seen in modern application within the sciences and specifically the medical field.

Then for the framework to be of the descriptive representations of our forefathers each will be vindicated. If they are here their tree must be good and from each finally ‘raise the father’s to the flesh.’ Each metaphorical ideal is to be represented with the combined knowledge from each of the lands as they should all be of voice.

The truth will combine not separate but the selfish will sway not wanting to hear and want to keep what they have and then it will be the child teaching the old until peace is made.

This may not fit into what many of the old school stand for but the next generations are going to love it and have the chance we never did.

a rock thrown into the pond ….. do you see?