amanpeter

From a recent talk by Srila Narayana Maharaja: "Krsna, the Cupid of cupids, entered Vrndavana near the bank of the Yamuna, which was full with fragrant flowers. Standing under the shade of a Vamsivata tree, He played on His flute, and all were attracted. Some of the gopis had been sleeping, some had been making capatis, and some were decorating themselves, and at that time this messenger came - the very sweet and very attractive flute-sound. It came and entered in the houses of the gopis. Then, it went through the door of their hearts. It forcibly took their hearts, and they began running towards Krsna. The gopis thought, "Krsna is a very big thief. He is like a dacoit. He has taken everything and not left us anything. He has taken our hearts. How can we live? How can we maintain our lives?" As they ran to follow that flute-sound, they called to Krsna, "You should return our hearts, otherwise we will continue to follow You." They had no time to tell others that they were going. They all simply ran to follow Krsna's flute-sound. They wondered from where this flute-sound was coming, and they said, "O very beautiful, marvelous Cupid of cupids! You should return our hearts, otherwise how can we return home? We cannot return now. Without our hearts we can never return. After that rasa began, and Krsna danced with each gopi. There were lakhs and lakhs gopis, and Krsna also became lakhs and lakhs. Why? All the gopis had left their husbands and their chastity. They had given up their houses, wealth, reputation, shyness, and everything else. In India, a lady cannot give up these things. She will prefer to die rather than give up her chastity. This is a special quality in Indian ladies. They can give up anything, but they would prefer to die than give up their shame. The gopis, however, left even this, and therefore Krsna wanted to satisfy them all. He manifested Himself with each gopi simultaneously, attracting them all by dancing with them in various dance postures. If He did not do so, He would have been reni, indebted to them. He was obligated to try to satisfy them - and the scene was very wonderful. Krsna always tells all the gopis, especially Srimati Radhika, "O, you are My most beloved." During the rasa dance Radhika saw that, "He is a very cunning cheater, liar, and debauchee. He just told Me, 'You are most beloved. There is no one like You.' but now He is dancing with all the gopis - right in front of Me." She could not tolerate this, and She thus disappeared from the dance arena. Krsna thought, "If there is no Radhika, there can be no dance. For whom is this dance, and for whom is this rasa? Krsna therefore pursued Her, lamenting, "Where has Srimati Radhika gone?" He played on His flute, "O Radhika, where are You, where are You? I cannot tolerate Your separation." Somehow He found Her. He decorated Her and begged Her pardon, "I promise I will not offend You anymore. Be pleased with me. Be merciful to Me." He then placed His flute and peacock-feathers in Her hands and said, "You are My master, You can use Me in any way." na paraye 'ham niravadya-samyujam sva-sadhu-krtyam vibudhayusapi vah ya mabhajan durjara-geha-srnkhalah samvrscya tad vah pratiyatu sadhuna ["I am not able to repay My debt for your spotless service, even within a lifetime of Brahma. Your connection with Me is beyond reproach. You have worshiped Me, cutting off all domestic ties, which are difficult to break. Therefore please let your own glorious deeds be your compensation." (SB 10.32.22)] Radhika became pacified and satisfied. Later, after Radhika and the other gopis sang Gopi-gita, Krsna returned in their midst. At that time the gopis, who were also clever - even more so than Krsna - began to ask Him something. They inquired, "We have heard about a certain kind of person who loves others only as much as others love him. He thinks, 'If you love me, I will love you.' Another kind or love and affection is this: 'Whether or not you love me, I will love you.' There is also a third type of person. Whether anyone loves him or not, still he does not love anyone. In this way there are three kinds of persons. O Krsna, in what category are You? Please explain this to us." The gopis were cleverly creating such an atmosphere that Krsna would admit whether He was doing prema or not. Having heard their inquiry, Krsna smiled very slyly and cunningly. He is the guru of the cunning. He said, "Those who 'love for love' are not real lovers or beloveds. They are businessmen. Those who give some coins to a shopkeeper and take something in return, like rice, dahl, and so on, are business persons. Theirs is not pure love." Do you understand? Krsna is saying, "If someone loves a person, and he wants that the person he loves should also love him in return, he is like a business person. I am not in this category. Next, regarding the person who, whether or not someone loves him he loves that other person, this is very good. O gopis, you are like this. Whether I love you or not, you are giving your love to me. "This is fatherly or motherly love and affection. A father and mother never demand any love from their children, and they always support them. Even if the children are doing any nonsense, as soon as the say, "O mother, O father!" the parents will forget everything for their sake. This is very pure, and you are like this. Whether I am loving you or not, you are loving Me. I am not like that. I am not in that category. Regarding the third type, I am also not among those who do not love others, whether others love them or not." Who are they? There are four kinds of persons in this category, and two of them are those who are atmarama and those who are aptakama. Sri Sukadeva Gosvami is an example of one in this category. Whether anyone loves him or not, what does he do? He has no such love because he is always thinking about the Lord and he is very satisfied in that. He has no time, no other vision, to notice whether one is loving or not loving." Our love is worldly love. He is in transcendental love, serving Krsna, and therefore he is happy. He is called atmarama. Those in the category of aptakama are those whose desires have all been satisfied. How? By remembering, chanting, and serving Krsna. Krsna informed the gopis, "I am neither atmarama nor aptakama." The third and fourth kind in this category are guru-drohi and akrtagya (ungrateful). If your father and mother and guru-jana (superiors) are supporting and nourishing you from childhood, but you are not serving them, you are akrtagya. Never be ungrateful to them. Only in the case where they are against Krsna and krsna-bhakti can you avoid their service. Otherwise, you should always serve them. Don't be ungrateful. The guru-drohi is he who, with or without reason, gives sufferings to their superiors. Don't give any sufferings or problems to your father or mother or gurudeva - especially gurudeva. Time is very short, so I am telling this in brief. Krsna told the gopis, "There are many guru-drohis, but I am not among this category. I am also not atmarama.Why not? You are the Supreme Lord. You are more than Sukadeva Gosvami.Oh, I am not atmarama because I played on the flute and called you all. I am not happy without you, and therefore I am not atmarama. You are My atma, you are My soul. I want to please you and you want to please Me; so I am not atmarama. "I am also not aptakama, because my desires have not been fulfilled. That is why I am praying to you, 'Don't be angry with Me.' I am praying to you so that I can be satisfied. One who is atmarama or aptakama cannot pray like this. How can you tell Me that I am atmarama or aptakama? In My boyhood I used to steal butter from here and there, and if My mother was engaged in her household duties and did not give me all her attention, I used to be very angry. You know? I once made a hole in the pot of yogurt, and at that time My mother became very angry with Me and followed Me with a bamboo stick. So how am I atmarama? I am not. "I like you, I am attached to you, and that is why I am pacifying you. I am praying to you, and this shows that I am not atmarama. "You may think that I am a guru-drohi or akrtagya, but I am not. I was grateful to My mother, and I was grateful to my friends. So I am not among any of these categories." The gopis then asked, "Then who are You? In what category are You?" Krsna replied, "Oh, I like you. I want to glorify you throughout the world. You gopis are my best friends. I will not be able to repay you in lakhs and lakhs births. I cannot repay you." Then the gopis said, smiling, "You have repaid us because You have taken shelter at our lotus feet, and You are saying, 'I am defeated by you.' This is what we wanted." What is this? It is unnatojjvala rasa. The way in which the gopis satisfied Krsna with their love is called unnatojjvala rasa. This is the highest love, and it is only in Radhika - in Her mahabhava. It is not in anyone else. The fraction of Srimati Radhika's mood to please Krsna should be our objective, otherwise Krsna cannot be fully controlled. Caitanya Mahaprabhu came especially to give this. The mood of Radhika should not be our object. Our only goal is to serve those who have this mood - the gopis. This is the mood of the manjaris. How shall we serve Radhika? We shall attain Her service by serving Her sakhis like Lalita, Visakha, Rupa Manjari, and others. We want the mood of Rupa Gosvami internally and externally, as he has explained in his Vidagda Madhava and Lalita Madhava. You should know that the beauty of unnatojjvala rasa is the mood of the kinkiris, the manjaris, the maidservants of Srimati Radhika. This is the highest objective for us. It is our sadhya. ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe! [This message has been edited by amanpeter (edited 06-02-2001).]

I've found it helpful to hold the dentist's hand mirror up so I can watch what is happening during the drilling. I also request that she explain everything in detail before and during. These enable me to take a more objective view of my body. I rarely use anaesthetic since it has a strongly negative emotional effect on me, so she always has to be careful and also warn me before causing too much pain. I look on this body as a mechanical conveyance that requires regular maintenance inspections, etc. from professionals. The more I can understand technically, the easier it is to accept what is needed and co-operate. I do agree, however, that our position as isolated individuals stuck in deteriorating bodies amidst so many others in an everchanging world is `vewy vewy scawy`. Helps me to turn inside and work internally on the root of the problem. Chanting silently is a BIG help. Sometimes Maha-mantra, sometimes Radhe Radhe, and sometimes simply Jesus. We are never alone, prabhu, and like any child we have a right to feel secure in our parents' love. We shouldn't settle for anything less.

Peter prabhu, You have received the information of the bhajan from Dr.Jaya who has already informed about the bhajan before the translation was sent to you. Please check your past mail. Here again is the whole web site dedicated to Saint.Mirabai and the one who created it is Dr. Prayaga Narayan Misra originally from Allahabad, UP, India, currently settled in Chandler, Arizona, USA. He is a very respected scholorly devotee, both material and spiritual. He has provided me the bhajan tape sung beautifully by the vocal artists, after my ardent repeated requests. He is very dedicated to ACBVSP and currently helping the ISKCON at Phoenix, AZ. His email address <Wwti@aol.com> or <pnmisra@hotmail.com> Please get more information about this gentleman at: Dear Friends and Music Loving Devotees of Lord Krishna! Please visit the webpages of Saint Mirabai and enjoy the Nectar of Krishna Love!! http://msnhomepages.talkcity.com/RightWay/pnmisramira humbly yours, Jaya Sri Radhey!

Do you mean diluted drugstore hydrogen peroxide or 35% healthfood store stuff?

Beautiful story, prabhu. Thanks for sharing. Peter (valaya)

Beautiful story, prabhu. Thanks for sharing. Peter (valaya)

Just kiddin', Mr. D! Got a little giddy when you mentioned Sri Radha personally intervening like that. I do believe, though, you may just have the entire parampara firmly bound in your heart of hearts... ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

That is one awfully sad `joke`, prabhu.

Definitely not a gargle or mouthwash! It'll burn your skin immediately. Can be diluted and used to rinse/soak vegatables and fruits or internally as well. Also to clean kitchen surfaces, etc. Check your local health store for a long list of uses.

`Thrown to the acharyas`! That's a good one, prabhu! Have you got a few locked up out back then, mate? As for the personal intervention of Srimati Raharani Herself--WOW! Hip Hip Hooray! Radhe Radhe! Please tell me more. ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

quote: Uddhava went to Vrndavan, where he realized the glories of the gopis.He had previously thought, "I am superior to all other devotees."But when he came to Vrndavana he understood that,"Krishna has sent me to learn somthing in this prema school,the devotional school of the gopis. Narayana Maharaja Pinnacle of Devotion pg.106 YS MC Excellent point, prabhu! ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

Looks like you're wrong again, Satyaraj prabhu. From Srimati Mirabai herself: "ab to hari naam dhun lo laagee, saadho! saba jaga bolata maakhan choraa, naam dharo vairaagee! kaha chaadi vahu mohan murali? kaha chaadi saba gopi? mora mundaayi gora kati bandhee, maane na maanee gopi ! maata yasomati maakhan choran baandhi jaaki baaha, shyaama kishore bhaye nava goraa, caitanya jaako naam ! pitaambar ko bhaava dikhaavai, kati kaupeena base, gore krishna ki daasi meeraa, jasa na krishna bane na bane! ab to hari naam dhun lo laagee! " Meaning (Bhaavaartha) - O pious souls! Now, my consciousness is absorbed into the Divine vibration of the Names of my Hari! I surrender myself to His Holy Name! The entire world addresses Him as the 'Butter Thief'. But now, He has earned another popular Name for Himself, as 'Vairaagi'- the dispassionate wandering monk! (Sanyasi) O my dearest Mohan ( Enchanter,Krishna)! Why have You discarded Your intimate companion, (Priya-Sakhi)- the Divine Flute? And why have You renounced all Your eternal Sweethearts, Gopis? You appear now with shaven head and ochre cloth at Your waist! But this clever Gopi understands Your disguise and doesn't care to conceal it ! Now it seems like Mother Yasoda has tied up the both arms of Butter Thief ! Alas,no more mischievous tricks! My Dark Beloved has now reappeared as the newly fresh Golden Lord Whose blessed Name is 'Caitanya' ! Though clad Himself in skimpy rags, His Pitambara (Yellow Divine Attire) as well as His inner most Divine Love Sentiments are revealed to me. Now Meerabai is the Hand-Maid of the Golden Krishna, whether the Glory of My Krishna is recognized by all or not! ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

There are at least two editions. For the newer one you might try Mandala Publishing. ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe! [This message has been edited by amanpeter (edited 05-28-2001).]

There's a new areosol spray that permanently removes smells from fabric, so now we're left with only the `filthy but wearable category`! It's called `Febreeze` for all you happy bachelors out there.

Examples of why the English language is so hard to learn: 1) The bandage was wound around the wound. 2) The farm was used to produce produce. 3) The dump was so full that it had to refuse more refuse. 4) We must polish the Polish furniture. 5) He could lead if he would get the lead out. 6) The soldier decided to desert his dessert in the desert. 7) Since there is no time like the present, he thought it was time to present the present. 8) A bass was painted on the head of the bass drum. 9) When shot at, the dove dove into the bushes. 10) I did not object to the object. 11) The insurance was invalid for the invalid. 12) There was a row among the oarsmen about how to row. 13) They were too close to the door to close it. 14) The buck does funny things when the does are present. 15) A seamstress and a sewer fell down into a sewer line. 16) To help with planting, the farmer taught his sow to sow. 17) The wind was too strong to wind the sail. 18) After a number of injections my jaw got number. 19) Upon seeing the tear in the painting I shed a tear. 20) I had to subject the subject to a series of tests. 21) How can I intimate this to my most intimate friend? Let's face it - English is a crazy language. There is no egg in eggplant nor ham in hamburger; neither apple nor pine in pineapple. English muffins weren't invented in England or French fries in France. Sweetmeats are candies while sweetbreads, which aren't sweet, are meat. We take English for granted. But if we explore its paradoxes, we find that quicksand can work slowly, boxing rings are square and a guinea pig is neither from Guinea nor is it a pig. Why is it that writers write, but fingers don't fing, grocers don't groce and hammers don't ham? If the plural of tooth is teeth, why isn't the plural of booth beeth? One goose, 2 geese, so one moose, 2 meese? One index, 2 indices? Doesn't it seem crazy that you can make amends, but not one amend. If you have a bunch of odds and ends, and get rid of all but one of them, what do you call it? If teachers have taught, why haven't preachers praught? If a vegetarian eats vegetables, what does a humanitarian eat? Sometimes I think all the English speakers should be committed to an asylum for the verbally insane. In what language do people recite at a play and play at a recital? Ship by truck and send cargo by ship? Have noses that run and feet that smell? How can a slim chance and a fat chance be the same, while a wise man and a wise guy are opposites? You have to marvel at the unique lunacy of a language in which your house can burn up as it burns down, in which you fill out a form by filling it in and in which an alarm goes off by going on. English was invented by people, not computers, and it reflects the creativity of the human race (which, of course, isn't a race at all). That is why, when the stars are out, they are visible, but when the lights are out, they are invisible.

Really, Atma, you are TOO much!!!

I concur completely. The broad brush of GM strikes again. Some can do no wrong, apparently, while others can do no right. Why bother distinguishing other than between `us` and `them`? So much simpler that way! ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

I concur completely. The broad brush of GM strikes again. Some can do no wrong, apparently, while others can do no right. Why bother distinguishing other than between `us` and `them`? So much simpler that way! ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

jndas: Precisely why I do not find anything `funny` about that Email or the ignorance it expressed. [This message has been edited by amanpeter (edited 05-25-2001).]

Cry with Radha! ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

I never got past "groovy", fact I didn't get quite that far, either. Hung-up somewhere between "cool" and "hip", I think.

Very sweet indeed! Here in Toronto, Canada the local ISKCON temple is called New Remuna and the dieties are Sri Sri Radha Ksira-cora Gopinath. http://www.iskcon.net/toronto/index.html ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

Is tat so? Sorry, jndas prabhu, but I know how you like a good joke...

JAI MOST MERCIFUL NITYANDA PRABHU!!!