amanpeter

From a popular song: "It would take, I know, A Michaelangelo; And he would need, The glow of dawn, That paints the skies above, To try and paint A portrait of my Love."

Interview With God Interview With God: http://www.reata.org/flash.html ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

Let's see if I get this right. The justification for conversion is `we are the only way/truth/light` therefore we are completely justified in doing anything and everything, but those who resist are `satanic/demonic` and therefore we're authorized in using any and all means to destroy them. Somehow I can't restrict this attitude to Christianity. The stronger such a `faith` is, the more divisive it becomes! Mayadevi rules in the name of religion! ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

Then we mix all this philosophy in a futile attempt to evade personal responsibility for our actions, as a kind of pseudo-liberation, while remaining increasingly more attached to the material concept of reality, though all the while believing we're progressing on the spiritual path! Beauty! Mayadevi rules! ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

Good point Shvu! Ideally, the devotee `dovetails` this propensity to a personal concept of God in the most intimate relationship, thus feeling that they belong exclusively to each other. As this connection becomes more clear, faith gets firmer and the individual begins to actually see his/her beloved everywhere in everyone. Such Divine Love expands into selfless unity whereas mundane love narrows to become restrictive and selfish, based on material bodies and their various clumps; which include not only families, but religions, cultures, etc. ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

From Tripurari Maharaja (Sanga): Q. In a recent Sanga you wrote, 'Krsna has a chance of experiencing the bhava of Radha and in his madness to taste this, jivas also get the opportunity to know about it.' How can a jiva taste the bhava of Sri Radha? Isn't manjari-bhava the highest a jiva can attain? A. The manjaris of Sri Radha taste her bhava. This is the secret of Gaudiya Vaisnavism. The very bhava that Krsna himself yearns for and has difficulty tasting can be experienced by sadhakas following in the line of Sri Rupa. Manjari bhava is a kind of dasya bhakti within sringara rasa. Handmaidens of Radha are so identified with her sentiments that they themselves taste those sentiments vicariously. They are 'Radha snehadhika,' or more affectionate towards Radha than they are towards Krsna. They worship the object of Krsna's worship. This is unique in the religious world. Every religion teaches that God is the most venerable object, but we teach about the worshipable object of God, Sri Radha. How dear to Krsna must Radha's handmaidens be? And how magnanimous is Sriman Mahaprabhu for announcing this to the world and thus opening the door to this opportunity? This is explained in greater detail in my book, 'Aesthetic Vedanta: The Sacred Path of Passionate Love'

O.K. Atma, on behalf of the entire male race, WE GIVE UP!!! You win O WONDROUS WOMAN OF WIT!!! Have mercy on us poor, woefully inadequate beasties!!! ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

I believe that any open honest relationship between two adults is acceptable, but it is always better to follow one's heart. Life itself is a hard struggle for most, if not all, of us. Should your friend choose to enter into some mutual agreement with this man, I would advise her to consult a lawyer and have the complete terms of their arrangement clearly defined legally on paper, for the benefit of both parties. Who knows, maybe love will come later. Then again, her Prince Charming may show up at any moment. Personally, I wish I'd married when I had the chance. Growing old alone, without ever having had children, just doesn't seem right somehow. ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

You're getting close to the main vein here, Dasanudas prabhu. Remember Srila Sridhar Maharaja speaking of his `crying club`? ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

You're getting close to the main vein here, Dasanudas prabhu. Remember Srila Sridhar Maharaja speaking of his `crying club`? ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

Me offended? Read the signature again, prabhu. Yet another example of muddle-brained misunderstanding projecting offensively back at others! Oh well, don't worry, Krsna and guru will protect you from all nasty consequences... p.s. Didn't you just say that you weren't talking to me anymore? Guess this post means I'M obsessively following YOU around, too! I'll continue praying to Radharani for all the confused ex-I$KCON `devotees`. ------------------ No offense meant to anyone... [This message has been edited by amanpeter (edited 06-05-2001).]

Me offended? Read the signature again, prabhu. Yet another example of muddle-brained misunderstanding projecting offensively back at others! Oh well, don't worry, Krsna and guru will protect you from all nasty consequences... p.s. Didn't you just say that you weren't talking to me anymore? Guess this post means I'M obsessively following YOU around, too! I'll continue praying to Radharani for all the confused ex-I$KCON `devotees`. ------------------ No offense meant to anyone... [This message has been edited by amanpeter (edited 06-05-2001).]

Since my back was broken in 1979, I have had extensive experience with chiropractors and acupuncturists. Both can be amazingly effective for physical and emotional problems. However, you should consider your personal feelings about the practitioner and realize that these treatments are as much an art as a science, so there can be a big difference between therapists. There are other somewhat similar treatments such as shiatsu, which is like acupuncture without needles. I found the most powerful effects were from acupuncture using electricity.

Which is exactly what is meant by saying religion is the opiate for the masses ( No offense meant to anyone). Just out of curiosity, who is actually giving it all up? In my opinion, the count will be a single digit number ( Again no offense meant to anyone). Cheers Hey Shvu, Thanks for the idea! With so many `vaisnavas` taking offense so easily I thought my signature needed changing... ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

Which is exactly what is meant by saying religion is the opiate for the masses ( No offense meant to anyone). Just out of curiosity, who is actually giving it all up? In my opinion, the count will be a single digit number ( Again no offense meant to anyone). Cheers Hey Shvu, Thanks for the idea! With so many `vaisnavas` taking offense so easily I thought my signature needed changing... ------------------ No offense meant to anyone...

Meanwhile...

Meanwhile...

I found that growing a short beard covers a lot and helps a bit with the melting face...old age definitely sucks in so many ways.

I found that growing a short beard covers a lot and helps a bit with the melting face...old age definitely sucks in so many ways.

whew! What a relief! It only affects females!

Hey MC, wait'll you get to India! Those eyes! Real women compared to Barbi-dolls (not talking about devotees, here). Danger at every step, prabhu! I can really identify with your previous post. My only shelter was/is Radhika. To get out of the rain, I was forced to dive into the ocean! Now a little water has minimal effect, if you follow my analogy, since I remain fully soaked. ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

Hey MC, wait'll you get to India! Those eyes! Real women compared to Barbi-dolls (not talking about devotees, here). Danger at every step, prabhu! I can really identify with your previous post. My only shelter was/is Radhika. To get out of the rain, I was forced to dive into the ocean! Now a little water has minimal effect, if you follow my analogy, since I remain fully soaked. ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

From "Sri Vidagdha-madhava" by Sri Rupa Goswami: Seeking to meditate for a moment upon Krsna, The sage wrests his mind from the objects of sense; This child draws Her mind away from Him To fix it on mere worldly things. The yogi yearns for a tiny flash of Krsna in his heart; Look--this foolish girl strives to banish Him from Her's! (2.17) Just yesterday She was playing in the dust, Her ears newly pierced, Her hair, barely as long as a cow's ear, tied with a colored thread; Oh, where has this Radha learned such proficiency in the ways of love That She has conquered the unconquerable! (7.44) Now assuming a steadfast pose, now showing signs of wavering, One moment uttering scornful sounds, the next, words of eagerness, Now with a look of innocence, now with glance bewitching Radhika is split in two swayed now by anger, now by love. (4.51) Words of protest filled with passion, Gestures of resistance lacking force, Frowns transmuted into smiles, Crying dry of tears--friend, Though Radha seeks to hide Her feelings, Each attempt betrays Her heart's Deep love for demon Mura's slayer. (7.38) Bold employ of teeth and nails By one experienced in love sports; Radha's show of opposition Gives Hari immeasurable delight. (7.39) ******************************** Unlike Candravali, whose deferential reserve indicates greater awareness of Krsna's lordly majesty (aisvarya) and constrains Him to show similar courtesy toward her, Radha responds primarily to Krsna's sweet charm (madhurya), and their more intimate love affords Him the greater delight. (from "A Sanskrit Portrait" by Donna Marie Wulff, p.39) ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

"Love Hurts" (popular song): I'm young, I know, but even so I know a thing, or two, I've learned from you I've really learned a lot, I've really learned a lot Love is like a stove, burns you when it's hot Love hurts, oh-oh-oh love hurts. Some folks sing of happiness, foreverness, togetherness Some folks fool themselves, I guess, But they're not fooling me. I know it isn't true, know it isn't true Love is just a lie, made to make you blue Love hurts, oh-oh-oh love hurts... ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!

Prabhu, I would be grateful if you could post the explanation of our only being interested in Krsna because of Radhika, as explained in "Loving Search For The Lost Servant" (p.97). Your personal realizations and experience are also welcomed. Thank you. ------------------ Radhe Radhe ALWAYS Radhe!