Bhakta Don Muntean

'Hamas' and 'Islamic Jihad' and other smaller political [legitmate] 'groups' are Hearing the Historic - 'Call to Peace' - NO they are NOT '...ticking time bombs...regrouping...' - the embattled peoples are asking for clear requirements: "...list of requirements of Israel, including that it stop all "acts of aggression" against Palestinians &#8212; including arrests and killings of accused militants and that it release all "political prisoners" and lift its travel restrictions on Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader..." [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/28/international/middleeast/28CND-MIDE.html?ex=1057820289&ei=1&en=98dd3fb10e601741] --- It isn't that Israel wishes to never resolve this serious problem - I am sure they are most especially feeling evermore calculated over the last twenty two years - acting under the impetus of the U.S. based 'cash cult' - they are "set-up" - we can see they have been ill-led - [most recently by] Bush and Co. - now they can see the many generations of the 'group' [who have been] operating out of the U.S. State [no matter who is elected over the last 22 years - the U.S. has become a kind of 'home' to many of the dejected leaders forming the new world order state - leaders who may not want the changes they know are coming] - so we see that for a price the U.S. has been 'fixing' the U.N. process - interference leading to a lack of U.N. actions and/or reprisals on Israel for violations of so many resolutions in connection to the occupation - by this time - Israel must see 'who' has been thus engaging them in an corner not expected - nor desired.... Israel must NOT continue to ignore the present - 'Call to Peace' - because this "time" is the real deal - instead Israel MUST ignore Bush and Co. - otherwise everything may be lost... It is obvious to the world that Arab States do not now [never did] wish to eradicate the world's [re]New[ed] Jewish State - as it would've been a such different reality over the last 55 years - what's happening is - most especially since 1967 - the pain and frustration of these 'occupied peoples and their well-wishers' is at times sounding like that - but that isn't the case - without doubt there can be no real [full] formal acceptance of the RE'new'ED 'Jewish' State - by the Arab [or other] nations - until there is a FULL and independent Palestine. ---- We must look at this situation in the light of our history in north america - when the 'white man' first came here - there were 'red men' already here - white man tried to kill them off [when that failed] - they disrupted their 'system' with guns, booze and [fake] missionaries - and at last they created 'reserves'- where the 'occupied peoples' were deprived and forced to stay - these places were called - 'land settlements' - now let's look at our situation here today - there are still 'reserves' [most in poverty!] and yes - the 'occupied peoples' - so long ago - have had their - >'Right of Return'< - into this 'new' society - Now today we have many of these indigenous peoples [rightly] wanting their own 'original' State [in some form] 'here now' - because [for many] they have not seen as much success [as promised to them] through 'this' integration. ---- Thus the [canadian] government have created recent ideas of 'native self governance' etc., to deal with this - all so much complicity for governments [and peoples!] now and later... ---- I ask the people of Palestine and Israel to think about this 'RIGHT OF RETURN' in this light - it isn't something that future generations are going to appreciate - one might even think that by taking so much territory over the last 36 years there is a potential that Israel - under extreme pressure from the U.S. - will thus calculate the exiles a 'right of return' into the 'jewish state' [under the guise of it being "a provisional palestinian state in training"] - THE RETURN SHALL BE INTO 'SELECT AREAS' TAKEN 36 YEARS AGO... ---- It will become a 'walled' - 'meager reserve' - "THERE" - no State of Palestine - for how many generations to come.... ---- Logic says PALESTINE SHOULD GIVE UP THEIR "RIGHT OF RETURN" DEMANDS -- they can and should avoid so much hell to come and settle for the instant creation of a FULL and INDEPENDENT STATE... ---- We must immediately get on with the fact that a REAL end to this Occupation must come NOW ---- the State of Palestine has been too long 'stalled' over the Jerusalem issue. ---- We must face the reality that part of the 'Justice' here 'naturally demands' that Jerusalem is going to have be again a fully Israeli City. ---- This city is the Hebrew 'Spiritual Center' [or 'teather'] - indeed Muslims in particular can see why it is thus important to them - through comparison to their own 'Spiritual Center' - 'Mecca'. ---- Will this reality [of a change for jerusalem] be - 'need fully' concluded - "Honorably" and through - "Justice" - or "dishonorably" - through the so-called leaders of the World's 'singular' Superpower - cultivating a future 'need less' "Violence and Urban War"? There is the matter of the FULL justice to be fully rendered to the suffering Palestinians and the 'historic move' of the 'Dome and Alaqsa Mosque' to its new location - before the building of the third temple can begin. ---- ANYONE &#8220;clearing&#8221; [or even thinking of attempts to] the "Temple Mount" - of the ancient and Sacred &#8220;Dome of the Rock&#8221; [and compound] with a so-called 'Errant&#8217; Rocket attack - [during an impending 'all-out' Urban War which will certainly one day soon break out in Jerusalem &#8211; ANYONE doing this will be punished EXTREME severe by KRISHNA [God has His 'ugly side' too - just test Him!?] - He sees us in our world - in the throws of the Age of Quarrel - He sees that our world cannot afford any such activity - it is time NOW - Israel, Great Britain and America [the original 'Partners in Partition'] should 'rightly' and &#8220;instantly&#8221; pay out the Billions of Dollars needed to move the 'Dome of the Rock' and the adjoining Mosque Compound -- &#8216;Stone by Stone&#8217;; HERE IS THE CLINCHER -- to move them onto the &#8220;Judicious and Auspicious&#8221; border of Jordan &#8211; &#8216;there&#8217; the Palestinian peoples must be - &#8220;Empowered by the World Community&#8221; [and (in real time) financed by Israel, Great Britain and America - with 'other' international help] to create a NEW &#8216;State of the Art Capital City&#8217; - THIS must be done for the Palestinians - they must now get their deserved New State. A State whose &#8220;borders&#8221; must NOT be marginalized into &#8220;a few miles&#8221; or into a &#8220;city-state&#8221;. ---- Thus - if old Jerusalem can EVER see her new 'third' Temple &#8211; then an offering of 'this' honorable &#8220;move&#8221; is Israel's FIRST step &#8211; if it be a so-called &#8216;Errant&#8217; Rocket [with yet more peoples displaced in a future "Transfer"] which gets their Temple &#8220;building process&#8221; underway [all this recent rocket attack activity directed at Hamas - could look like a scene leading to an eventual errant one or two...?] -- then the laws of material nature and common sense logic dictate sure results: NO amount of Diplomacy or Political Maneuvering shall promote &#8220;Resolution&#8221; - what to speak of &#8220;Peace&#8221; and &#8220;Security&#8221; FOR A VERY LONG TIME. -'our' ever so 'little' world we have now seen Bush and Co. abuse the U.N. - at one point [for once it was admitted!] they were employing counter intelligence personal and who knows what technologies to needlessly spy on their own allies [to calculate them]! ---- We will see escalated fighting continue - if there are any more assassination attempts by the Likud "party" on the Hamas "party" - will such very stupid moves restore hope? - Israel cannot go on and on like this - they have come to the cross roads - Krishna shall show 'them' the way to peace too - if they seek it. ---- If they ignore this - how long then before there isn't enough resolve in anyone to permit a resolution of this 5+ decades long Palestinian Occupation without a Bush and Co. 'seeded' global chaos? [is 'that' at the heart of Bush and Co.'s plan - or is it simply a time delayed method to another 'darker' plan?] ---- Time to expand this vague "road map" to Palestinian Statehood - and Global Peace! Other issues and Nations need to be included! ---- When these 'historic decisions' - to bring the two 'equal' States into Secure and Peaceful co-existence are concluded [and it'll be sooner than they think!] - the 'decision makers' must present a clear Plan to these parties - a plan which includes a FULL CUT AWAY from each other - there must be TWO "Independent" States [not that one is 'provisional' and the other is not] - with a 50/50 - 'non fragmented' - allocation of the territories [***minus the city of Jerusalem***] - a 50/50 share in water/sea ports and ALL other natural resources - a 60/40 [israel gets 60%] share of existing national/international market and investment segments/sectors [without this can they have any real economy - they would've had 'that' and more by now - had there not been the [cash cult] 'games' over all these years?] - the new Palestinian currency trades on instant 'par' with Israel's. ***Palestine must receive [without debt] as 'instantly' as possible - a comprehensive new "State of the Art" Capital City*** - and proper infrastructure - with international assistance to create full [supporting] Urban and Rural Communities - for two plus million exiles [in addition to the possibility of one to three million living within their Capital] - there must be FULL 'Reparations' in ALL Respects... ----- >>>>>>NO MORE anyone trying to KILL anyone to make things happen [or not happen]! [last part edited cause Acts10 was fixated on it] ---- Is the State of Israel ready to see the - "Arm of the Lord"... http://forums.arabia.com/WebX?14@156.Iuunal3Bnxy.0@.1dea90d7!content=EN&page=1&sort=recent&view=expanded

'Hamas' and 'Islamic Jihad' and other smaller political [legitmate] 'groups' are Hearing the Historic - 'Call to Peace' - NO they are NOT '...ticking time bombs...regrouping...' - the embattled peoples are asking for clear requirements: "...list of requirements of Israel, including that it stop all "acts of aggression" against Palestinians &#8212; including arrests and killings of accused militants and that it release all "political prisoners" and lift its travel restrictions on Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader..." [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/28/international/middleeast/28CND-MIDE.html?ex=1057820289&ei=1&en=98dd3fb10e601741] --- It isn't that Israel wishes to never resolve this serious problem - I am sure they are most especially feeling evermore calculated over the last twenty two years - acting under the impetus of the U.S. based 'cash cult' - they are "set-up" - we can see they have been ill-led - [most recently by] Bush and Co. - now they can see the many generations of the 'group' [who have been] operating out of the U.S. State [no matter who is elected over the last 22 years - the U.S. has become a kind of 'home' to many of the dejected leaders forming the new world order state - leaders who may not want the changes they know are coming] - so we see that for a price the U.S. has been 'fixing' the U.N. process - interference leading to a lack of U.N. actions and/or reprisals on Israel for violations of so many resolutions in connection to the occupation - by this time - Israel must see 'who' has been thus engaging them in an corner not expected - nor desired.... Israel must NOT continue to ignore the present - 'Call to Peace' - because this "time" is the real deal - instead Israel MUST ignore Bush and Co. - otherwise everything may be lost... It is obvious to the world that Arab States do not now [never did] wish to eradicate the world's [re]New[ed] Jewish State - as it would've been a such different reality over the last 55 years - what's happening is - most especially since 1967 - the pain and frustration of these 'occupied peoples and their well-wishers' is at times sounding like that - but that isn't the case - without doubt there can be no real [full] formal acceptance of the RE'new'ED 'Jewish' State - by the Arab [or other] nations - until there is a FULL and independent Palestine. ---- We must look at this situation in the light of our history in north america - when the 'white man' first came here - there were 'red men' already here - white man tried to kill them off [when that failed] - they disrupted their 'system' with guns, booze and [fake] missionaries - and at last they created 'reserves'- where the 'occupied peoples' were deprived and forced to stay - these places were called - 'land settlements' - now let's look at our situation here today - there are still 'reserves' [most in poverty!] and yes - the 'occupied peoples' - so long ago - have had their - >'Right of Return'< - into this 'new' society - Now today we have many of these indigenous peoples [rightly] wanting their own 'original' State [in some form] 'here now' - because [for many] they have not seen as much success [as promised to them] through 'this' integration. ---- Thus the [canadian] government have created recent ideas of 'native self governance' etc., to deal with this - all so much complicity for governments [and peoples!] now and later... ---- I ask the people of Palestine and Israel to think about this 'RIGHT OF RETURN' in this light - it isn't something that future generations are going to appreciate - one might even think that by taking so much territory over the last 36 years there is a potential that Israel - under extreme pressure from the U.S. - will thus calculate the exiles a 'right of return' into the 'jewish state' [under the guise of it being "a provisional palestinian state in training"] - THE RETURN SHALL BE INTO 'SELECT AREAS' TAKEN 36 YEARS AGO... ---- It will become a 'walled' - 'meager reserve' - "THERE" - no State of Palestine - for how many generations to come.... ---- Logic says PALESTINE SHOULD GIVE UP THEIR "RIGHT OF RETURN" DEMANDS -- they can and should avoid so much hell to come and settle for the instant creation of a FULL and INDEPENDENT STATE... ---- We must immediately get on with the fact that a REAL end to this Occupation must come NOW ---- the State of Palestine has been too long 'stalled' over the Jerusalem issue. ---- We must face the reality that part of the 'Justice' here 'naturally demands' that Jerusalem is going to have be again a fully Israeli City. ---- This city is the Hebrew 'Spiritual Center' [or 'teather'] - indeed Muslims in particular can see why it is thus important to them - through comparison to their own 'Spiritual Center' - 'Mecca'. ---- Will this reality [of a change for jerusalem] be - 'need fully' concluded - "Honorably" and through - "Justice" - or "dishonorably" - through the so-called leaders of the World's 'singular' Superpower - cultivating a future 'need less' "Violence and Urban War"? There is the matter of the FULL justice to be fully rendered to the suffering Palestinians and the 'historic move' of the 'Dome and Alaqsa Mosque' to its new location - before the building of the third temple can begin. ---- ANYONE &#8220;clearing&#8221; [or even thinking of attempts to] the "Temple Mount" - of the ancient and Sacred &#8220;Dome of the Rock&#8221; [and compound] with a so-called 'Errant&#8217; Rocket attack - [during an impending 'all-out' Urban War which will certainly one day soon break out in Jerusalem &#8211; ANYONE doing this will be punished EXTREME severe by KRISHNA [God has His 'ugly side' too - just test Him!?] - He sees us in our world - in the throws of the Age of Quarrel - He sees that our world cannot afford any such activity - it is time NOW - Israel, Great Britain and America [the original 'Partners in Partition'] should 'rightly' and &#8220;instantly&#8221; pay out the Billions of Dollars needed to move the 'Dome of the Rock' and the adjoining Mosque Compound -- &#8216;Stone by Stone&#8217;; HERE IS THE CLINCHER -- to move them onto the &#8220;Judicious and Auspicious&#8221; border of Jordan &#8211; &#8216;there&#8217; the Palestinian peoples must be - &#8220;Empowered by the World Community&#8221; [and (in real time) financed by Israel, Great Britain and America - with 'other' international help] to create a NEW &#8216;State of the Art Capital City&#8217; - THIS must be done for the Palestinians - they must now get their deserved New State. A State whose &#8220;borders&#8221; must NOT be marginalized into &#8220;a few miles&#8221; or into a &#8220;city-state&#8221;. ---- Thus - if old Jerusalem can EVER see her new 'third' Temple &#8211; then an offering of 'this' honorable &#8220;move&#8221; is Israel's FIRST step &#8211; if it be a so-called &#8216;Errant&#8217; Rocket [with yet more peoples displaced in a future "Transfer"] which gets their Temple &#8220;building process&#8221; underway [all this recent rocket attack activity directed at Hamas - could look like a scene leading to an eventual errant one or two...?] -- then the laws of material nature and common sense logic dictate sure results: NO amount of Diplomacy or Political Maneuvering shall promote &#8220;Resolution&#8221; - what to speak of &#8220;Peace&#8221; and &#8220;Security&#8221; FOR A VERY LONG TIME. -'our' ever so 'little' world we have now seen Bush and Co. abuse the U.N. - at one point [for once it was admitted!] they were employing counter intelligence personal and who knows what technologies to needlessly spy on their own allies [to calculate them]! ---- We will see escalated fighting continue - if there are any more assassination attempts by the Likud "party" on the Hamas "party" - will such very stupid moves restore hope? - Israel cannot go on and on like this - they have come to the cross roads - Krishna shall show 'them' the way to peace too - if they seek it. ---- If they ignore this - how long then before there isn't enough resolve in anyone to permit a resolution of this 5+ decades long Palestinian Occupation without a Bush and Co. 'seeded' global chaos? [is 'that' at the heart of Bush and Co.'s plan - or is it simply a time delayed method to another 'darker' plan?] ---- Time to expand this vague "road map" to Palestinian Statehood - and Global Peace! Other issues and Nations need to be included! ---- When these 'historic decisions' - to bring the two 'equal' States into Secure and Peaceful co-existence are concluded [and it'll be sooner than they think!] - the 'decision makers' must present a clear Plan to these parties - a plan which includes a FULL CUT AWAY from each other - there must be TWO "Independent" States [not that one is 'provisional' and the other is not] - with a 50/50 - 'non fragmented' - allocation of the territories [***minus the city of Jerusalem***] - a 50/50 share in water/sea ports and ALL other natural resources - a 60/40 [israel gets 60%] share of existing national/international market and investment segments/sectors [without this can they have any real economy - they would've had 'that' and more by now - had there not been the [cash cult] 'games' over all these years?] - the new Palestinian currency trades on instant 'par' with Israel's. ***Palestine must receive [without debt] as 'instantly' as possible - a comprehensive new "State of the Art" Capital City*** - and proper infrastructure - with international assistance to create full [supporting] Urban and Rural Communities - for two plus million exiles [in addition to the possibility of one to three million living within their Capital] - there must be FULL 'Reparations' in ALL Respects... ----- >>>>>>NO MORE anyone trying to KILL anyone to make things happen [or not happen]! [last part edited cause Acts10 was fixated on it] ---- Is the State of Israel ready to see the - "Arm of the Lord"... http://forums.arabia.com/WebX?14@156.Iuunal3Bnxy.0@.1dea90d7!content=EN&page=1&sort=recent&view=expanded

'Hamas' and 'Islamic Jihad' and other smaller political [legitmate] 'groups' are Hearing the Historic - 'Call to Peace' - NO they are NOT '...ticking time bombs...regrouping...' - the embattled peoples are asking for clear requirements: "...list of requirements of Israel, including that it stop all "acts of aggression" against Palestinians &#8212; including arrests and killings of accused militants and that it release all "political prisoners" and lift its travel restrictions on Yasir Arafat, the Palestinian leader..." [http://www.nytimes.com/2003/06/28/international/middleeast/28CND-MIDE.html?ex=1057820289&ei=1&en=98dd3fb10e601741] --- It isn't that Israel wishes to never resolve this serious problem - I am sure they are most especially feeling evermore calculated over the last twenty two years - acting under the impetus of the U.S. based 'cash cult' - they are "set-up" - we can see they have been ill-led - [most recently by] Bush and Co. - now they can see the many generations of the 'group' [who have been] operating out of the U.S. State [no matter who is elected over the last 22 years - the U.S. has become a kind of 'home' to many of the dejected leaders forming the new world order state - leaders who may not want the changes they know are coming] - so we see that for a price the U.S. has been 'fixing' the U.N. process - interference leading to a lack of U.N. actions and/or reprisals on Israel for violations of so many resolutions in connection to the occupation - by this time - Israel must see 'who' has been thus engaging them in an corner not expected - nor desired.... Israel must NOT continue to ignore the present - 'Call to Peace' - because this "time" is the real deal - instead Israel MUST ignore Bush and Co. - otherwise everything may be lost... It is obvious to the world that Arab States do not now [never did] wish to eradicate the world's [re]New[ed] Jewish State - as it would've been a such different reality over the last 55 years - what's happening is - most especially since 1967 - the pain and frustration of these 'occupied peoples and their well-wishers' is at times sounding like that - but that isn't the case - without doubt there can be no real [full] formal acceptance of the RE'new'ED 'Jewish' State - by the Arab [or other] nations - until there is a FULL and independent Palestine. ---- We must look at this situation in the light of our history in north america - when the 'white man' first came here - there were 'red men' already here - white man tried to kill them off [when that failed] - they disrupted their 'system' with guns, booze and [fake] missionaries - and at last they created 'reserves'- where the 'occupied peoples' were deprived and forced to stay - these places were called - 'land settlements' - now let's look at our situation here today - there are still 'reserves' [most in poverty!] and yes - the 'occupied peoples' - so long ago - have had their - >'Right of Return'< - into this 'new' society - Now today we have many of these indigenous peoples [rightly] wanting their own 'original' State [in some form] 'here now' - because [for many] they have not seen as much success [as promised to them] through 'this' integration. ---- Thus the [canadian] government have created recent ideas of 'native self governance' etc., to deal with this - all so much complicity for governments [and peoples!] now and later... ---- I ask the people of Palestine and Israel to think about this 'RIGHT OF RETURN' in this light - it isn't something that future generations are going to appreciate - one might even think that by taking so much territory over the last 36 years there is a potential that Israel - under extreme pressure from the U.S. - will thus calculate the exiles a 'right of return' into the 'jewish state' [under the guise of it being "a provisional palestinian state in training"] - THE RETURN SHALL BE INTO 'SELECT AREAS' TAKEN 36 YEARS AGO... ---- It will become a 'walled' - 'meager reserve' - "THERE" - no State of Palestine - for how many generations to come.... ---- Logic says PALESTINE SHOULD GIVE UP THEIR "RIGHT OF RETURN" DEMANDS -- they can and should avoid so much hell to come and settle for the instant creation of a FULL and INDEPENDENT STATE... ---- We must immediately get on with the fact that a REAL end to this Occupation must come NOW ---- the State of Palestine has been too long 'stalled' over the Jerusalem issue. ---- We must face the reality that part of the 'Justice' here 'naturally demands' that Jerusalem is going to have be again a fully Israeli City. ---- This city is the Hebrew 'Spiritual Center' [or 'teather'] - indeed Muslims in particular can see why it is thus important to them - through comparison to their own 'Spiritual Center' - 'Mecca'. ---- Will this reality [of a change for jerusalem] be - 'need fully' concluded - "Honorably" and through - "Justice" - or "dishonorably" - through the so-called leaders of the World's 'singular' Superpower - cultivating a future 'need less' "Violence and Urban War"? There is the matter of the FULL justice to be fully rendered to the suffering Palestinians and the 'historic move' of the 'Dome and Alaqsa Mosque' to its new location - before the building of the third temple can begin. ---- ANYONE &#8220;clearing&#8221; [or even thinking of attempts to] the "Temple Mount" - of the ancient and Sacred &#8220;Dome of the Rock&#8221; [and compound] with a so-called 'Errant&#8217; Rocket attack - [during an impending 'all-out' Urban War which will certainly one day soon break out in Jerusalem &#8211; ANYONE doing this will be punished EXTREME severe by KRISHNA [God has His 'ugly side' too - just test Him!?] - He sees us in our world - in the throws of the Age of Quarrel - He sees that our world cannot afford any such activity - it is time NOW - Israel, Great Britain and America [the original 'Partners in Partition'] should 'rightly' and &#8220;instantly&#8221; pay out the Billions of Dollars needed to move the 'Dome of the Rock' and the adjoining Mosque Compound -- &#8216;Stone by Stone&#8217;; HERE IS THE CLINCHER -- to move them onto the &#8220;Judicious and Auspicious&#8221; border of Jordan &#8211; &#8216;there&#8217; the Palestinian peoples must be - &#8220;Empowered by the World Community&#8221; [and (in real time) financed by Israel, Great Britain and America - with 'other' international help] to create a NEW &#8216;State of the Art Capital City&#8217; - THIS must be done for the Palestinians - they must now get their deserved New State. A State whose &#8220;borders&#8221; must NOT be marginalized into &#8220;a few miles&#8221; or into a &#8220;city-state&#8221;. ---- Thus - if old Jerusalem can EVER see her new 'third' Temple &#8211; then an offering of 'this' honorable &#8220;move&#8221; is Israel's FIRST step &#8211; if it be a so-called &#8216;Errant&#8217; Rocket [with yet more peoples displaced in a future "Transfer"] which gets their Temple &#8220;building process&#8221; underway [all this recent rocket attack activity directed at Hamas - could look like a scene leading to an eventual errant one or two...?] -- then the laws of material nature and common sense logic dictate sure results: NO amount of Diplomacy or Political Maneuvering shall promote &#8220;Resolution&#8221; - what to speak of &#8220;Peace&#8221; and &#8220;Security&#8221; FOR A VERY LONG TIME. -'our' ever so 'little' world we have now seen Bush and Co. abuse the U.N. - at one point [for once it was admitted!] they were employing counter intelligence personal and who knows what technologies to needlessly spy on their own allies [to calculate them]! ---- We will see escalated fighting continue - if there are any more assassination attempts by the Likud "party" on the Hamas "party" - will such very stupid moves restore hope? - Israel cannot go on and on like this - they have come to the cross roads - Krishna shall show 'them' the way to peace too - if they seek it. ---- If they ignore this - how long then before there isn't enough resolve in anyone to permit a resolution of this 5+ decades long Palestinian Occupation without a Bush and Co. 'seeded' global chaos? [is 'that' at the heart of Bush and Co.'s plan - or is it simply a time delayed method to another 'darker' plan?] ---- Time to expand this vague "road map" to Palestinian Statehood - and Global Peace! Other issues and Nations need to be included! ---- When these 'historic decisions' - to bring the two 'equal' States into Secure and Peaceful co-existence are concluded [and it'll be sooner than they think!] - the 'decision makers' must present a clear Plan to these parties - a plan which includes a FULL CUT AWAY from each other - there must be TWO "Independent" States [not that one is 'provisional' and the other is not] - with a 50/50 - 'non fragmented' - allocation of the territories [***minus the city of Jerusalem***] - a 50/50 share in water/sea ports and ALL other natural resources - a 60/40 [israel gets 60%] share of existing national/international market and investment segments/sectors [without this can they have any real economy - they would've had 'that' and more by now - had there not been the [cash cult] 'games' over all these years?] - the new Palestinian currency trades on instant 'par' with Israel's. ***Palestine must receive [without debt] as 'instantly' as possible - a comprehensive new "State of the Art" Capital City*** - and proper infrastructure - with international assistance to create full [supporting] Urban and Rural Communities - for two plus million exiles [in addition to the possibility of one to three million living within their Capital] - there must be FULL 'Reparations' in ALL Respects... ----- >>>>>>NO MORE anyone trying to KILL anyone to make things happen [or not happen]! [last part edited cause Acts10 was fixated on it] ---- Is the State of Israel ready to see the - "Arm of the Lord"... http://forums.arabia.com/WebX?14@156.Iuunal3Bnxy.0@.1dea90d7!content=EN&page=1&sort=recent&view=expanded

We would like to share these Pictures of God that are taken from the Ancient Vedic Texts -- The first shows God in a Protective Fighting Spirit -- as half Man half Lion The others are an assortment of Him -- you have seen God's photo album! "O son of Kunti, declare it boldly that My devotee never perishes." [bg. 9.31] PLEASE Pray to God for Help in Everything -- HE WILL PROTECT ALL WHO ASK WITH SINCERITY http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-126.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-96732.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-96205.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-20418.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-85551.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-53421.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-11426.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-24052.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-30595.jpg http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-47630.jpg

Dear Saskatchewan neighbors: I was hit by a car in 1998 in Moose Jaw and that was the start of my hell... Sakatchewan Government Insurance is an on-going NIGHTMARE -- SGI's ill-inspired no-fault policies and processes -- are matters which affect all of us -- and will continue to -- unless we say something to them to let our government know that calculation -- is NOT what Saskatchewan needs. Get a hearty Laugh [and learn at the same time] at our government elect [through my expression of a satirical rendering of my SGI/NDP experiance] and its REAL?? Government non-elect?? -- SGI has them, you and me -- everyone in this Province -- calculated! I beg that you call (306) 787-6478 to the Office of the Minister Responsible and the Premier at (306) 787-9433 (Call Collect Outside Regina) and express your dissatisfaction to this government that SGI's proposed changes to the Automobile Accident Insurance Act in January 2003 will leave out "their" victims created from January 01, 1995 through January 01, 2003 -- and these proposed changes will further marginalize future accident victims -- forget their "choice" coverage propaganda! Saskatchewan citizens need FULL NEW management at SGI! Without these management changes any Amendments to the Automobile Accident Insurance Act will be of little consequence -- they will create further problems. These posters cover a range of my frustrated emotions in this connection and some are a little rude -- yet accurate from the victims vantage point! SGI's 'despot' poster deleted as a goodwill gesture to the Premier http://i.keen.com/listingphotos/8455381-66318.jpg UPDATE -- GOVERNMENT CHANGED AUTOMOBILE ACCIDENT INSURANCE ACT ON 01/01/03 WITH NO CONSIDERATION FOR THE NO-FAULT VICTIMS!! Thank you for your time!

Quote: If you are working too long, then you must be poor. That means you are not the son of the richest person of the universe. Or you are lost. [Ram] Reply: What? "you must be lost"? So if he is poor -- he must be lost? Please clarify what exactly you meant by such a remark. Bhakta don

Here is some information that will make this even more interesting: www.uhcg.org/Quest/messiah.html

Dear Friends: Do you have questions about your Future? For Countless Ages people have turned to the spiritual and the meta-physical for answers. A Mastery of the Tarot -- combined with Vedic Knowledge -- provide for Deep and Powerfull Readings: http://www.keen.com/calls/callimage.asp?sid=5231245&ImageType=1 A portion of remunerations gained by this link will be donated to indiadivine.org to continue its important work. It is worth your call... Your Servant,

All Glories to Srila Prabhupada The fact is the Personality of Kali calculated Columbus' mission of violent conversion -- to intercpet India during the childhood pastimes of Lord Chaitanya -- who was only 7 [not 8] years old in 1492. It is pretty easy to understand who blew them far away off course and WHY... YS, Bhakta don [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 05-15-2002).]

Dear Rati: Please accept my humble obeisances All Glories to Srila Prabhupada I like this idea -- networks are good! You're a very Bright Soul! Myself and my godbrother wish to open a restaurant/center -- we have made a proposal -- could you tell us what you think of it -- if we send it to you? YS, Bhakta don

Nice points! YS,

Yes -- you are soooooooo correct! YS, Bhakta don

Dear Brothers and Sisters: All Glories to Srila Prabhupada Here is a link to a very good and heated discussion: http://www.krishna.org/comments/?articleID=332 Your Servant, Bhakta don

Testing testing -- does the string move up? Oh it does! [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 03-31-2002).]

Please note that my Original post in this string has been edited. I noted the one post of that one devotee who is inspired to preach -- when he sees his Guru Maharaja -- Jayapataka Swami -- this devotee was concerned for me that I was angry or something and that is not true -- I was expressing that there are very strained relations growing between Vaishnavas -- and we all must work on that. I thank everyone for their concerns.... My situation is really not important. Your Servant, Bhakta don [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 03-31-2002).]

Dear beemasane: >>>Please tell me who Srila Prabhupada is. insert answer here please: ( ). thank you very much Reply: You do not know who he is but under the "say NO to initiations" string you surmise that you know WHY I posted it? The last comment you left under said string -- may also be suspect. How new are you to this? Your Servant, Bhakata don [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 03-24-2002).]

Dear Brothers and Sisters: Please accept my humble obeisances All Glories to Srila Prabhupada I have edited this post to reflect a spirit of cooperation with Devotees who's life it is [and has been for many years] to serve Srila Prabhupada's ISKCON. OF course I do not think that everyone is taking initiation cheaply! I decided to leave the last point I made in the original post. If we focus only on service and preaching -- and leave off the rest to some distant future -- do we desire the big success -- or the status quo?! Your Servant, Bhakta don [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 03-30-2002).]

Dear Gaurachandra: All Glories to Srila Prabhupada This is a cool string you are giving good service. As you have noted this faith is growing among affluent people esp. Americans. The features of this faith that are attractive are as you pointed out: 1. Who doesn't want to be God? 2. The Temples and seceret rituals. The reality is the Mormon church is much different than the calculated tv ads pushing family first etc., ideas. You mentioned that there is a connection to masonic ritual -- there is outright occultisim at the center of the mormon faith. At least the masonic platfrom is a 'universal' non-denominational group seeking illumination -- not godhood. It should be noted that the baptisim of the dead is really a ritual and opportunity for disembodied entities to recieve a body without the birth process. The God of the bible is Brahma the creator -- any amount of reading in the torah will reveal that. Lord Jesus is an impowered incarnation of God. Yet I believe that he is the son of Brahma and he is from Brahma Loka. Lord Jesus did not start an institution -- Saul the zealous hebrew did when he was so-called saved one day. The history of what happened to the original followers of Lord Jesus is well knowen. There is a point also that mormons are doing the cow sacrifices in the temples as well -- as in ancient solomon temple in Jerusalem. It is not only water that is used in those baptismals... There is more to be said on this and I will soon I have not enough time here... Your servant, Bhakta don

This is not true! Your servant,