Bhakta Don Muntean

Post Afternote: I would like to say that these points from TARUNS post should be here in my Reply: >"Keep in mind: some Jews not all. Reply: That hardly Covers the 'Obvious' Slant to anti-semitisim. >JNdAsji: before you delete this one consider it's relevance to this particular thread topic. Reply: Tarun You could have edited portions of the message you were re-posting--but somehow you wanted us to read them. And added "some jews not all"--not a word really on the neo-nazi Ideas guised as an 'Expose' on the Illuminati. >Let us discuss and/or dispute what is written below. Reply; Which is what follows in these replies--and the Comments from 'Stonehearted' that follow in the Thread sort of over-look these Points. All Glories to Shrila Prabhupada Dear Tarun: >Dear kindred and fellow Aryans Reply: Do not call yourself an Aryan--You are not! Neither are you "Kindred" to anyone here. >I am sure most of you know who stands behind the current blight which is striking our countries. The evil forces and their lemmings, the politicians, call it globalization or free movement of money and products. Reply: Are you for Real? Freedom of Commerce--an "evil" thing??!! Listen--the Actual Cause of the 'current blight' is--the influence of 'Kali Yuga'--the present 'Age of Quarrel'. This is COMPOUNDED by an Obsessive Slant to Godlessness--IN PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF. >Who are these people? Well most of them are freemasons, and some are known as members of the Bilderberg Group. Reply: You have not a clue about the "Authority" of such a Group--'Puny Nationalistic Thinking' is 'Blinding' you to what is 'Best' for this World. What is wrong with the "Freemasons"? They are a misrepresented Group--they are not in any way "bad"--as Hate Mongers like you tend to imply. They may delve into things which are 'Secret'--but they are doing this for the 'Good of the World'. >te real satans, however, are behind the screen; as always, there are some Jews among them. Reply: So here you show more Ignorance--the real cause of the unfolding of all events in the World is Karma--which you seem to have a 'LOT' of! Figure out the 'pun'! >Let us look at the Bilderberg Group. Here you can read a brief characterization of the Bilderberg Group, the shadowy cabal dedicated to one-world government. Reply: Again--what is 'wrong' with a Global Government? You never did mention it! Do not the Leaders of the 'Free World'--enjoy their 'Freedoms' along with their 'kindred'? Why then--if 'Globalization' is so Terrible a 'Scam'--they are 'FOR' it? You will see one day--this limited 'Regional World' is a 'Place of the Past'--and a serious cause of Global Imballance. We need a 'Group'--with the True Moral Dignity and 'Guts'--to make Global Government a Reality. >The Bilderberg Group: Took its name from the hotel in Holland where the group first met in 1954. The group meets every year at various locations in US and Europe, always in extreme secrecy, often at resorts controlled by either the Rockefeller or Rothschild families. The Rothschild family is the leading European force within the Bilderberg Group, sharing its power with >the American-based Rockefeller empire. Reply: So what? Does any of this prove the 'bad intentions' of which you are Muttering? >The Bilderberg Group maintains an extremely low profile and never publishes reports or studies under its own official aegis. Reply: That is due in part to--too many people under the Influence of Propagandists like yourself--Wait Little Man--in due course of time--the Choice will be clear to all 'Enlightened' Citizens of the World--and to Hell with the rest of you! >Who opposes the Bilderberg Group? Reply: People with Little or No 'Vision'! People with a 'Regional Superiority Complex'. >During the recent demonstrations against globalization, we have had the opportunity to study the opponents. Who they are? Reply: These are People who have 'Little to No Understanding' of the Real Problems of this World--at times some of them even listen to--and follow--Right Wing Hate Mongering Idiologies a.k.a--Idiots! >They call themselves anarchists, members of Troski's group, communists, feminists and other professional demonstrators. Reply: Well I guess 'they' are a Group we can rely on! THEY have 'all' our Answers--right? >Anarchism has always been a profession of Jewish activists. Reply: So the Jews are against Globalization now? You best make up your mind!! >they will not lose the battle of the people They will, after the battle of globalization, be on the winning side. Reply: So all of us shall be on that side--if we are not Foolish enough to Listen to the likes of you and your non-sense. >If the freemasons/Bilderberg Group misses, they want to be among the winners as activists. Reply: NO--We'll not 'miss'! >If the politicians loses, the Jews will point to the Bilderberg Group and >say, "They wanted globalization; we the Jews did not want it. We fought with the people!". Reply: What happens when YOU lose? At your Present Rate 'you' will lose to all Sides... >Where did the Rockefellers and Rothschilds make their money? Reply: Where did 'you' get yours? >Both of these Jewish families were among the dealers of opium in Hong Kong back in 1700 and early 1800. Both families lost opium when the Chinees [sic]Emperor decided to burn all opium stored in Cantong in 1847.. Reply: Don't 'waste' our time! >Those of you wanting to learn the background of both these families must read the story of the Opium War written before 1940. Here you will find names and records of profit from the traffic. Reply: There were as many anti-semitic asuras writing in the 1940's as there are now oh, and--who Cares? >Do they still deal in drugs? I have never heard of a Jew who gave up a good business. Yes, I think they are behind the traffic of drugs even today. Reply: YOU think!?? Let me assure you--you 'cannot' pronounce so-called Judgement from the 'Prison-house'! >I do not think they are dealers or buyers anymore, but they are the owners... Reply: Sounds more like YOU are a drug dealer--'Halucinating' some Competition! We all know you can't work an honest Occupation--do you work for your Local Slaughterhouse or Meat Packers? >Why can small European countries not prevent the illegal entrance of drugs? Because the police are instructed not to. Even in a country as large as the US, the drug traffickers could be stopped if the police were allowed to act against them. But someone is preventing the police from working effectively. Reply: The whole 'War on Drugs' is a waste of time! It is NOT the way to deal with the 'drug' problem--you'll see one day. Just think--if the Police were to be given the Authority to round-up asuras like you?!!! >Hurry up - get rid of the Jews Reply: --into the next room--we have a Great Party planned! Did anyone remember the Hats? We are Celebrating the Fact that Asuras like YOU--are on the 'Decline'. >The more I learn about the Jews and their wheeling, dealing and crimes, the more I want to participate as they are brought to justice. Reply: Be not surprised when you find yourself--in a 'Pinch to Escape' Future Bondage! >I therefore urge the youth to start up not only defending their countries.. Reply: I urge the Youth--to see the 'Insanity' of such a Plea! If they are to Defend anything 'it' should be a Future--where our World--'Acts as One'. >Not to their courts but to ours, where we are the judges, prosecutors and executors. I would like to be one of the prosecuters. Reply: You will 'again' have to go to the Court of Yamaraja--what will you tell Him 'this' time? You do indeed--have a Long Dark Path ahead! >I think I qualify for such a job. Reply: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA HA AHAHA HA AHAHA HA HA HA HAH HAHA HAH!!!! >My credentials are: not feeling sorry for a dead Jew Reply: I ask you--are you Inbred? You Must be! So Tarun--if you can Muster-up enough 'Healthy Brain' to read on--you might see some Genuine Perspective to this Issue: Shrila Prabhupada had an interesting Room Conversation in regard to a Perfect "Dictator" with Lord Fenner-Brockway in London July 9, 1972: Breaking in on the conversation........ Prabhupada: No, democracy we don't approve. Lord Brockway: We don't...? Devotee: Approve. Lord Brockway: Hm? Devotee: Approve. Lord Brockway: Of what? Devotee: Democracy we don't approve. Lord Brockway: Oh, I approve of it very, very strongly. Very strongly. It must be...It must be the basis of all, of all good. Prabhupada: No, basis... Now, suppose if a people in general, they are not advanced, by their votes, somebody is elected, he may not be also advanced. That is the defect of democracy. Mass of people, they are not advanced. So simply by their vote, if somebody is elected, then they will have to repent. Just like Nixon. He's elected, but these people are again decrying him, that "No, you are not good." So why do you, did you elect him? You elect, and again you reject. That is the defect of democracy. that people are not advanced. They can commit mistake, elect somebody wrong. And then they will lament. This is the defect. But monarchy, as it was approved by the Vedic culture, the monarchy, if the king is first-class, God conscious... A king should be like that. That is the ideal king. They are described in the Bhagavad Gita: rajarshi. The king should be "just like saintly person", although he's king. Rajarshi. (Bg. 4.2). And just like Maharaja Yudhishtira. He was rajarshi. All the kings in those days, they were trained up in such a way that they were saintly persons, although they were the king. Not debauch. So one person, if he's authorized... Just like the communists, they are thinking of dictatorship. This is also another kind of dictatorship. But if the dictator, or the king, is a perfect man, then his dictatorship or royal power is quite... But that, that is not possible at the present moment. But at the present moment, the democracy is also not perfect. Because the mass of people, they have no perfect knowledge. By sentiment. So it may be they're electing a wrong person. That is the defect of democracy. Lord Brockway: No, I'm not saying that democracy as we have it is perfect. I am saying that a people will advance only as it is a reflection of the progress of thepeople themselves, and that they, and that they cannot be changed by an external pressure... Prabhupada: That is not possible. Lord Brockway:...which is dictatorship. And even... Prabhupada: No, dictatorship, I told you... Lord Brockway: And even a, a good dictatorship is a bad thing. I would rather have... Prabhupada: No, how good dictatorship can be a bad thing? Lord Brockway: I would rather have people make mistakes when they had self-government than if you had a dictatorship which didn't make mistakes and imposed it's own... Prabhupada: No, but my proposition is that they should NOT commit, either the king or the elected person should NOT commit mistake. But if you try to educate the mass of people to become educated to elect the right person, that is very difficult. But if a king, a person, is educated nicely, that is easier. That is my point of view. Lord Brockway: Yes. Yes, but the mass of people in poverty, the... Prabhupada: No, everything will be all right. Because the man on the head is perfect, he'll manage, he'll manage. But if he's not perfect, then it is not possible. Therefore the endeavor should be made... Either call it dictator or president or king, it doesn't matter. The man on the top of the executive must be a perfect man. Lord Brockway: Now, in taking your view that all men and women are the children of God, they've got God within them, then the advance of mankind must be by giving the opportunity of God in all men and women. Prabhupada: Yes. Lord Brockway: To come to fulfillment. Prabhupada: Yes. That is our mission. Lord Brockway: And at the present time you haven't got those conditions. Because of inequalities, because of poverty, because of hunger, because of war, you haven't got those conditions. Prabhupada: No, I... Lord Brockway: And therefore, therefore, it is not only the goodness of an individual which you want. You want, combined with the goodness of an individual, of an understanding of the causes... Prabhupada: Yes. Lord Brockway: ...which lead to hunger and poverty and war. Prabhupada: That... Lord Brockway: It's only when you have those two things together... Prabhupada: Yes, we have got... Lord Brockway: ...that you can bring about a solution. Prabhupada: Because people are Godless at the present moment, they're suffering. Lord Brockway: It's not only because of that. Prabhupada: Eh? Lord Brockway: It's not only... Prabhupada: That is the only cause. Lord Brockway: No..., Prabhupada: That we can, that we can give very scientific evidence. That is the only cause. Lord Brockway: No, it's not the only cause. Prabhupada: No, that we have to understand. Lord Brockway: No, please. I know, I know of people who are very God conscious, beautiful people, kind in all their human relations, but they haven't got a beginning of an understanding of how one can bring brotherhood and peace to the world. Prabhupada: Hmmm. Then... Lord Brockway: And therefore, in addition to God consciousness, you must have understanding, knowledge. Prabhupada: Yes, that understanding, that required. So that is needed. People have no opportunity to understand. Just like if you speak... Lord Brockway: Yes. Prabhupada: ...they'll talk of universal brotherhood, but they'll send the poor animals to the slaughterhouse. Lord Brockway: They...? Prabhupada: To the slaughterhouse. Devotee: Animals. Prabhupada: Animals. Lord Brockway: Yes. Prabhupada: That means they have no right understanding of universal brotherhood. Lord Brockway: No. With that I agree. Prabhupada: Yes. So what is the use of talking of universal brotherhood when you actually do not treat like that? Lord Brockway: Yes. Prabhupada: But that is due to his lack of God consciousness. He'll talk very high words, but practically he cannot do it. Devotee: No information. Prabhupada: Yes, no information. Just like the commu... Even in communist country. They, they are thinking that national, everything should be national. So what is the meaning of national? Means any living entity born in that country is national. So why the poor animals are not nationals? That is, means lack of God consciousness. He does not know. He thinks simply human being national. Lord Brockway: Oh, I agree. I'm a vegetarian. [and he was born in 1886! Prabhupada in 1896] Prabhupada: [laughs] Thank you. Hare Krishna. So this is all due to lack of God consciousness. Therefore the only remedy is to make people God conscious, thoroughly, perfectly. Then everything will be all right. Lord Brockway: That I don't accept. God consciousness plus understanding. Prabhupada: Now, God conscious means understanding. Without understanding, how there can be God consciousness? Lord Brockway: And you, you may easily have a person who is very God conscious, beautiful in their own lives, beautiful to all the group around them, who have no understanding of the problems of the world at all. Prabhupada: That is not perfect God conscious. That is partial. END So let's Pray to Lord Narahari for such a Situation! PS: Please remember this: Prabhupada: "No, everything will be all right. Because the man on the head is perfect, he'll manage, he'll manage. But if he's not perfect, then it is not possible. Therefore the endeavor should be made... EITHER CALL IT DICTATOR OR PRESIDENT OR KING, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The man on the top of the executive MUST be a perfect man." It could happen by the Grace of Lord Sri Chaitanya and the Mercy of Shrila Prabhupada, to defeat this Kali Yuga's heavy influence 'The Illuminati--The New World Order' could "Fit" this Perfect 'Position'! Your Servant in Shrila Prabhupada Bhakta don [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-27-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-27-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-28-2001).]

Post Afternote: I would like to say that these points from TARUNS post should be here in my Reply: >"Keep in mind: some Jews not all. Reply: That hardly Covers the 'Obvious' Slant to anti-semitisim. >JNdAsji: before you delete this one consider it's relevance to this particular thread topic. Reply: Tarun You could have edited portions of the message you were re-posting--but somehow you wanted us to read them. And added "some jews not all"--not a word really on the neo-nazi Ideas guised as an 'Expose' on the Illuminati. >Let us discuss and/or dispute what is written below. Reply; Which is what follows in these replies--and the Comments from 'Stonehearted' that follow in the Thread sort of over-look these Points. All Glories to Shrila Prabhupada Dear Tarun: >Dear kindred and fellow Aryans Reply: Do not call yourself an Aryan--You are not! Neither are you "Kindred" to anyone here. >I am sure most of you know who stands behind the current blight which is striking our countries. The evil forces and their lemmings, the politicians, call it globalization or free movement of money and products. Reply: Are you for Real? Freedom of Commerce--an "evil" thing??!! Listen--the Actual Cause of the 'current blight' is--the influence of 'Kali Yuga'--the present 'Age of Quarrel'. This is COMPOUNDED by an Obsessive Slant to Godlessness--IN PEOPLE LIKE YOURSELF. >Who are these people? Well most of them are freemasons, and some are known as members of the Bilderberg Group. Reply: You have not a clue about the "Authority" of such a Group--'Puny Nationalistic Thinking' is 'Blinding' you to what is 'Best' for this World. What is wrong with the "Freemasons"? They are a misrepresented Group--they are not in any way "bad"--as Hate Mongers like you tend to imply. They may delve into things which are 'Secret'--but they are doing this for the 'Good of the World'. >te real satans, however, are behind the screen; as always, there are some Jews among them. Reply: So here you show more Ignorance--the real cause of the unfolding of all events in the World is Karma--which you seem to have a 'LOT' of! Figure out the 'pun'! >Let us look at the Bilderberg Group. Here you can read a brief characterization of the Bilderberg Group, the shadowy cabal dedicated to one-world government. Reply: Again--what is 'wrong' with a Global Government? You never did mention it! Do not the Leaders of the 'Free World'--enjoy their 'Freedoms' along with their 'kindred'? Why then--if 'Globalization' is so Terrible a 'Scam'--they are 'FOR' it? You will see one day--this limited 'Regional World' is a 'Place of the Past'--and a serious cause of Global Imballance. We need a 'Group'--with the True Moral Dignity and 'Guts'--to make Global Government a Reality. >The Bilderberg Group: Took its name from the hotel in Holland where the group first met in 1954. The group meets every year at various locations in US and Europe, always in extreme secrecy, often at resorts controlled by either the Rockefeller or Rothschild families. The Rothschild family is the leading European force within the Bilderberg Group, sharing its power with >the American-based Rockefeller empire. Reply: So what? Does any of this prove the 'bad intentions' of which you are Muttering? >The Bilderberg Group maintains an extremely low profile and never publishes reports or studies under its own official aegis. Reply: That is due in part to--too many people under the Influence of Propagandists like yourself--Wait Little Man--in due course of time--the Choice will be clear to all 'Enlightened' Citizens of the World--and to Hell with the rest of you! >Who opposes the Bilderberg Group? Reply: People with Little or No 'Vision'! People with a 'Regional Superiority Complex'. >During the recent demonstrations against globalization, we have had the opportunity to study the opponents. Who they are? Reply: These are People who have 'Little to No Understanding' of the Real Problems of this World--at times some of them even listen to--and follow--Right Wing Hate Mongering Idiologies a.k.a--Idiots! >They call themselves anarchists, members of Troski's group, communists, feminists and other professional demonstrators. Reply: Well I guess 'they' are a Group we can rely on! THEY have 'all' our Answers--right? >Anarchism has always been a profession of Jewish activists. Reply: So the Jews are against Globalization now? You best make up your mind!! >they will not lose the battle of the people They will, after the battle of globalization, be on the winning side. Reply: So all of us shall be on that side--if we are not Foolish enough to Listen to the likes of you and your non-sense. >If the freemasons/Bilderberg Group misses, they want to be among the winners as activists. Reply: NO--We'll not 'miss'! >If the politicians loses, the Jews will point to the Bilderberg Group and >say, "They wanted globalization; we the Jews did not want it. We fought with the people!". Reply: What happens when YOU lose? At your Present Rate 'you' will lose to all Sides... >Where did the Rockefellers and Rothschilds make their money? Reply: Where did 'you' get yours? >Both of these Jewish families were among the dealers of opium in Hong Kong back in 1700 and early 1800. Both families lost opium when the Chinees [sic]Emperor decided to burn all opium stored in Cantong in 1847.. Reply: Don't 'waste' our time! >Those of you wanting to learn the background of both these families must read the story of the Opium War written before 1940. Here you will find names and records of profit from the traffic. Reply: There were as many anti-semitic asuras writing in the 1940's as there are now oh, and--who Cares? >Do they still deal in drugs? I have never heard of a Jew who gave up a good business. Yes, I think they are behind the traffic of drugs even today. Reply: YOU think!?? Let me assure you--you 'cannot' pronounce so-called Judgement from the 'Prison-house'! >I do not think they are dealers or buyers anymore, but they are the owners... Reply: Sounds more like YOU are a drug dealer--'Halucinating' some Competition! We all know you can't work an honest Occupation--do you work for your Local Slaughterhouse or Meat Packers? >Why can small European countries not prevent the illegal entrance of drugs? Because the police are instructed not to. Even in a country as large as the US, the drug traffickers could be stopped if the police were allowed to act against them. But someone is preventing the police from working effectively. Reply: The whole 'War on Drugs' is a waste of time! It is NOT the way to deal with the 'drug' problem--you'll see one day. Just think--if the Police were to be given the Authority to round-up asuras like you?!!! >Hurry up - get rid of the Jews Reply: --into the next room--we have a Great Party planned! Did anyone remember the Hats? We are Celebrating the Fact that Asuras like YOU--are on the 'Decline'. >The more I learn about the Jews and their wheeling, dealing and crimes, the more I want to participate as they are brought to justice. Reply: Be not surprised when you find yourself--in a 'Pinch to Escape' Future Bondage! >I therefore urge the youth to start up not only defending their countries.. Reply: I urge the Youth--to see the 'Insanity' of such a Plea! If they are to Defend anything 'it' should be a Future--where our World--'Acts as One'. >Not to their courts but to ours, where we are the judges, prosecutors and executors. I would like to be one of the prosecuters. Reply: You will 'again' have to go to the Court of Yamaraja--what will you tell Him 'this' time? You do indeed--have a Long Dark Path ahead! >I think I qualify for such a job. Reply: HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA AH HA HA AHAHA HA AHAHA HA HA HA HAH HAHA HAH!!!! >My credentials are: not feeling sorry for a dead Jew Reply: I ask you--are you Inbred? You Must be! So Tarun--if you can Muster-up enough 'Healthy Brain' to read on--you might see some Genuine Perspective to this Issue: Shrila Prabhupada had an interesting Room Conversation in regard to a Perfect "Dictator" with Lord Fenner-Brockway in London July 9, 1972: Breaking in on the conversation........ Prabhupada: No, democracy we don't approve. Lord Brockway: We don't...? Devotee: Approve. Lord Brockway: Hm? Devotee: Approve. Lord Brockway: Of what? Devotee: Democracy we don't approve. Lord Brockway: Oh, I approve of it very, very strongly. Very strongly. It must be...It must be the basis of all, of all good. Prabhupada: No, basis... Now, suppose if a people in general, they are not advanced, by their votes, somebody is elected, he may not be also advanced. That is the defect of democracy. Mass of people, they are not advanced. So simply by their vote, if somebody is elected, then they will have to repent. Just like Nixon. He's elected, but these people are again decrying him, that "No, you are not good." So why do you, did you elect him? You elect, and again you reject. That is the defect of democracy. that people are not advanced. They can commit mistake, elect somebody wrong. And then they will lament. This is the defect. But monarchy, as it was approved by the Vedic culture, the monarchy, if the king is first-class, God conscious... A king should be like that. That is the ideal king. They are described in the Bhagavad Gita: rajarshi. The king should be "just like saintly person", although he's king. Rajarshi. (Bg. 4.2). And just like Maharaja Yudhishtira. He was rajarshi. All the kings in those days, they were trained up in such a way that they were saintly persons, although they were the king. Not debauch. So one person, if he's authorized... Just like the communists, they are thinking of dictatorship. This is also another kind of dictatorship. But if the dictator, or the king, is a perfect man, then his dictatorship or royal power is quite... But that, that is not possible at the present moment. But at the present moment, the democracy is also not perfect. Because the mass of people, they have no perfect knowledge. By sentiment. So it may be they're electing a wrong person. That is the defect of democracy. Lord Brockway: No, I'm not saying that democracy as we have it is perfect. I am saying that a people will advance only as it is a reflection of the progress of thepeople themselves, and that they, and that they cannot be changed by an external pressure... Prabhupada: That is not possible. Lord Brockway:...which is dictatorship. And even... Prabhupada: No, dictatorship, I told you... Lord Brockway: And even a, a good dictatorship is a bad thing. I would rather have... Prabhupada: No, how good dictatorship can be a bad thing? Lord Brockway: I would rather have people make mistakes when they had self-government than if you had a dictatorship which didn't make mistakes and imposed it's own... Prabhupada: No, but my proposition is that they should NOT commit, either the king or the elected person should NOT commit mistake. But if you try to educate the mass of people to become educated to elect the right person, that is very difficult. But if a king, a person, is educated nicely, that is easier. That is my point of view. Lord Brockway: Yes. Yes, but the mass of people in poverty, the... Prabhupada: No, everything will be all right. Because the man on the head is perfect, he'll manage, he'll manage. But if he's not perfect, then it is not possible. Therefore the endeavor should be made... Either call it dictator or president or king, it doesn't matter. The man on the top of the executive must be a perfect man. Lord Brockway: Now, in taking your view that all men and women are the children of God, they've got God within them, then the advance of mankind must be by giving the opportunity of God in all men and women. Prabhupada: Yes. Lord Brockway: To come to fulfillment. Prabhupada: Yes. That is our mission. Lord Brockway: And at the present time you haven't got those conditions. Because of inequalities, because of poverty, because of hunger, because of war, you haven't got those conditions. Prabhupada: No, I... Lord Brockway: And therefore, therefore, it is not only the goodness of an individual which you want. You want, combined with the goodness of an individual, of an understanding of the causes... Prabhupada: Yes. Lord Brockway: ...which lead to hunger and poverty and war. Prabhupada: That... Lord Brockway: It's only when you have those two things together... Prabhupada: Yes, we have got... Lord Brockway: ...that you can bring about a solution. Prabhupada: Because people are Godless at the present moment, they're suffering. Lord Brockway: It's not only because of that. Prabhupada: Eh? Lord Brockway: It's not only... Prabhupada: That is the only cause. Lord Brockway: No..., Prabhupada: That we can, that we can give very scientific evidence. That is the only cause. Lord Brockway: No, it's not the only cause. Prabhupada: No, that we have to understand. Lord Brockway: No, please. I know, I know of people who are very God conscious, beautiful people, kind in all their human relations, but they haven't got a beginning of an understanding of how one can bring brotherhood and peace to the world. Prabhupada: Hmmm. Then... Lord Brockway: And therefore, in addition to God consciousness, you must have understanding, knowledge. Prabhupada: Yes, that understanding, that required. So that is needed. People have no opportunity to understand. Just like if you speak... Lord Brockway: Yes. Prabhupada: ...they'll talk of universal brotherhood, but they'll send the poor animals to the slaughterhouse. Lord Brockway: They...? Prabhupada: To the slaughterhouse. Devotee: Animals. Prabhupada: Animals. Lord Brockway: Yes. Prabhupada: That means they have no right understanding of universal brotherhood. Lord Brockway: No. With that I agree. Prabhupada: Yes. So what is the use of talking of universal brotherhood when you actually do not treat like that? Lord Brockway: Yes. Prabhupada: But that is due to his lack of God consciousness. He'll talk very high words, but practically he cannot do it. Devotee: No information. Prabhupada: Yes, no information. Just like the commu... Even in communist country. They, they are thinking that national, everything should be national. So what is the meaning of national? Means any living entity born in that country is national. So why the poor animals are not nationals? That is, means lack of God consciousness. He does not know. He thinks simply human being national. Lord Brockway: Oh, I agree. I'm a vegetarian. [and he was born in 1886! Prabhupada in 1896] Prabhupada: [laughs] Thank you. Hare Krishna. So this is all due to lack of God consciousness. Therefore the only remedy is to make people God conscious, thoroughly, perfectly. Then everything will be all right. Lord Brockway: That I don't accept. God consciousness plus understanding. Prabhupada: Now, God conscious means understanding. Without understanding, how there can be God consciousness? Lord Brockway: And you, you may easily have a person who is very God conscious, beautiful in their own lives, beautiful to all the group around them, who have no understanding of the problems of the world at all. Prabhupada: That is not perfect God conscious. That is partial. END So let's Pray to Lord Narahari for such a Situation! PS: Please remember this: Prabhupada: "No, everything will be all right. Because the man on the head is perfect, he'll manage, he'll manage. But if he's not perfect, then it is not possible. Therefore the endeavor should be made... EITHER CALL IT DICTATOR OR PRESIDENT OR KING, IT DOESN'T MATTER. The man on the top of the executive MUST be a perfect man." It could happen by the Grace of Lord Sri Chaitanya and the Mercy of Shrila Prabhupada, to defeat this Kali Yuga's heavy influence 'The Illuminati--The New World Order' could "Fit" this Perfect 'Position'! Your Servant in Shrila Prabhupada Bhakta don [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-27-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-27-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-28-2001).]

All Glories to Shrila Prabhupada Darwin! What a difference Prabhu! You almost looked 'Haunted' in the Before Picture. AS you noted you have some issue with the sleep cycle--you DO look tired. Please do not run yourself down. You cannot do service that can really satisfy your Heart--if you are laid-up. Nice Neck Beads! I have only One Humble Request--if I could? Please do away with the 'we evolved from apes' stuff on your Website. I am sure you do not still '' to the limited ideas of modern anthropology and archeology. You could do so much with your Website as per demonstrating that the scientific basis of Krishna Consciousness exists--and is acceptable. Also, you look 'too' thin--EAT 'more' Prashadam! Your Servant, Bhakta don PS: ALL THE FOLLOWING EDIT TAGS ARE FROM FIXING ERRORS I REALLY SHOULD USE PREVIEW! [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-26-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-26-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-26-2001).]

Many many non-Jewish Devotees have told this to me! I also belive this to be true. Shrila Prabhupada did say this: Prabhupada: ...in the human society the Jews are most beautiful. Is it a fact? Jews? Yehudi.(?) Satsvarupa: Each group says that they're the most beautiful. (laughter) The blacks say they are beautiful, and the whites say... Prabhupada: No, impartially. That everyone will say, "I am beautiful....". (July 30, 1975 Dallas) Your Servant, Bhakta don PS: I am neither Jewish or good looking! Satyaraj Das a famous Jewish Devotee is a Genius--His books are very good. [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-22-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-24-2001).]

Many many non-Jewish Devotees have told this to me! I also belive this to be true. Shrila Prabhupada did say this: Prabhupada: ...in the human society the Jews are most beautiful. Is it a fact? Jews? Yehudi.(?) Satsvarupa: Each group says that they're the most beautiful. (laughter) The blacks say they are beautiful, and the whites say... Prabhupada: No, impartially. That everyone will say, "I am beautiful....". (July 30, 1975 Dallas) Your Servant, Bhakta don PS: I am neither Jewish or good looking! Satyaraj Das a famous Jewish Devotee is a Genius--His books are very good. [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-22-2001).] [This message has been edited by Bhakta Don Muntean (edited 11-24-2001).]

All Glories to Shrila Prabhupada Will People just leave them alone! It is clear that if they did not deserve to be a wealthy and influential as they are--they would not be. It has been said that the Brightest Devotees are Jewish! Your Servant, Bhakta don

All Glories to Shrila Prabhupada Will People just leave them alone! It is clear that if they did not deserve to be a wealthy and influential as they are--they would not be. It has been said that the Brightest Devotees are Jewish! Your Servant, Bhakta don

All Glories to Shrila Prabhupada Dear Darwin: >>>"Some of you must have been praying for me. Over the last 2 weeks...Been chanting quite allot more than I had been...." Reply: I am very Happy to hear this! It has been some time since we have Communicated--I have been (since we first made contact) Praying to Shrila Prabhupada and Lord Krishna for your Advancement--this is so cool! Clearly, in your Heart you have allways had some Very Sincere Desire and Lord Krishna is Delivering on it! Your Gratefull Servant, Bhakta don PS: Looking forward to more communication--I still remember the Dream that you told me about in the E mail that time--very significant now!!!