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It does say that the supreme lord comes to our planet after every yuga, and it does say in other scriptures that Krishna will come as Kalki. However, I do not think Mohammed is Kalki, because Mohammed established a completely different religion and did not call himself God. When Kalki arrives, every one will agree that he is God and he will say that He is God and He will appear normal like you and me... Anyway, the point is this, dear Muslim guest, please get the controversial topics from the Vedas and other hindu scriptures so that we can have a discussion among them as you wish. But don't explain to me what this samaj or that samaj does... there are thousands of samajs that form due to the ignorance of the very nature of that is human. The word Samaj literally means a group in Hindi. Entonces senor, it would be wonderful if you show the reference that shows the denial of Idol worship in Vedas. /images/graemlins/grin.gif because then we can start going in the path that would look pleasant to you, however, I did read parts of the vedas and I did not find the denial of Idol worship of the supreme lord.

First of all, you pose many good questions, however, such questions are easily answerable. First of all , Bhagavath Gita was not written by Valmiki, It was written by a great Rishi named Vyasa. Vyasa was the writer of mahabharat too. He was also the father of Dritharashtra, Pandu, and other major characters in Mahabharat. Anyway, I did not understand what these Arya Samaj scriptures are... If they are in existence, they are probably trying to scare other people from going in different ways that do not take Vedas into reference. Can you please tell me the Origin of Arya Samaj, thank you ,I would appreciate that. Also , by the quotes again, they are explaining to the brahmans that they hold no Special Importance because we are all God's children. This would mean that these guys dwelt in the middle ages and probably some people follow this now. If you wish to explain that our own vedas prove us wrong, please get stuff from these four vedas "Yajur VedaSama Veda" or "ArthavaVeda" or the "Rig Veda". It is great that you believe that Quran is God Written book... But you see, If God wanted to teach his people through love for them, would he come down here and talk to us or would he write a book and say, "Hey , follow this buddy" Krishna came down here, then he himself explained how people should live. Now, you might argue that he was only talking to only one guy. But then we would have to argue that he is the one who created such a dillemma for Arjuna, he is the one who gave Vyasa the power to see all this and he is the one who let Vyasa make a book about it. If you say , vyasa did not exist, well you are wrong, because we have many places where vyasa went. I went to such a place on my last visit to India, it was an 2 years ago. If you say Hindu texts are not written by God himself , you are right, because why would God write, when he can come down here and tell it to you himself. All they did was take notes /images/graemlins/smile.gif Even though this will seem far fetched, there are references of his coming down even today. Oh yeah, don't feel that it is a pity that you being a muslim have found such a piece of text in our "religion". Actually I am glad you found it. /images/graemlins/smile.gif But please, tell me if it is from the vedas, or from other valid hindu scriptures. Muchas gracias senor.

I was only asking a sincere question... but ok, if you only wish to discuss hinduism, it is fine by me /images/graemlins/smile.gif Hold on, i will try to answer the questions which you put in for us /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Why do we emphasize on how the organization of ISKCON is run, our main goal is to go to krishna, isn't that enough who cares if people follow the ritvik system or some other system , as long as we all get to one goal that is reaching krishna.

why is Islam so sexually inclined... For example, how come there is more emphasis on sex in the heaven of Islam . The Heaven of Islam looks more like the Heaven of Indra, but the Heaven kingdom of Indra is temporary.

So now we are finally on one track here guest. I am glad you understand my statements , muchas gracias. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Impure thoughts are not impure in reality, they are really pure. If krishna is everything, then why worry about impure thoughts and pure thoughts. Pure is impure, and impure is pure, so then the pure and impure is nothing but a conditioned notion. Stool is impure, but then again it is the most purest thing for a pig. So, the point is, pure and impure are just notions which are entertained in the mind due to the bodies that we wear... nothing more than that. However, chanting will take us to a mode of goodness, such things are not important when compared to the love for krishna.

Knock Knock /images/graemlins/smile.gif whos there /images/graemlins/confused.gif Hare krishna /images/graemlins/smile.gif Hare krishna who /images/graemlins/confused.gif Hare krishna! /images/graemlins/smile.gif Hare Krishna who /images/graemlins/smile.gif I said Hare krishna! /images/graemlins/mad.gif I said Who's there! /images/graemlins/mad.gif I said Hare krishna! /images/graemlins/mad.gif I said who's there! who is hare krishna! /images/graemlins/mad.gif Its me hare krishna /images/graemlins/confused.gif HARE KRISHNA WHO /images/graemlins/confused.gif Hare krishna, leaves with out finishing his joke... /images/graemlins/mad.gif Kids : /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/grin.gif

Here is another joke you won't understand /images/graemlins/smile.gif Knock Knock /images/graemlins/smile.gif Who's there /images/graemlins/grin.gif ..........

In our philosophy, for some extent, the Creator is non different from the Creation. Thus proving that the creator is creation and vice versa /images/graemlins/smile.gif. So, you can worship the creator through creation. /images/graemlins/grin.gif So, You can worship cows, plants , seeds, because they are non different from creation thus being nondifferent from the creator itself. /images/graemlins/smirk.gif However, such things will just give you material results because you are worshiping the external material energy of the lord. What you need to do , is worship the internal energy. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

/images/graemlins/mad.gif--------why is that guy so funny----------/images/graemlins/mad.gif

Anyway, the point remains the same, I think I have answered your question. But I think I know what you are doing, but I will not say anything due to the simple fact that explaining to you would be like creating a standing wave in physics. Standing waves appear to be really going somewhere but they really don't, they keep moving back and forth /images/graemlins/smile.gif However, when you are trying to make me say that I am not sure of what I am getting into because of the ignorance in respect to other religions... think again. The reality remains the same, if you look at it from the ground, from the air or from underwater. The same reality that you see in Islam is the same reality that we see in Hinduism, except it is from a different perspective. If you want to say that I(who is a hindu) is looking at the unreality due to the fact that it is a different perspective , well you are wrong, because reality does not change, what we are doing is looking at it as a different perspective. So, Mr. Guest, you are welcome here , however to condemn one's religion to make your's look good would be ignorance. If I ask you that are you sure you want to follow Islam , you would probably say yes. If you ask me that am I sure that I want to follow ISKON (not hinduism) then I would probably say yes. /images/graemlins/smile.gif Why? (the answer to this question would look very familiar to your answer ) because I think this is the truth and I have investigated into religions like Christianity, Islam, Buddhism, Jainism and Hinduism with Impersonal brahman philosophy and I have found them giving me only pieces of the truth, not the whole truth. You will probably answer that the truth lies in Islam, thats great, but also check out Jewist sites, they have more truth than Islam. If you still want more knowledge and think that the Ideas they give are very vague , then go to Christian Sites, after that travel through the sites posted by every religion. I am sure that they will give you more truth than Islam. Please check sites from Iskcon and hinduism too...If you still think they don't give you the perspective of the reality that you seek, then please by all means follow Islam. Islam is a great religion to follow, they say so many nice things about my krishna. /images/graemlins/grin.gif Thank you.

/images/graemlins/blush.gif I want to joke around ! /images/graemlins/blush.gif In a clean way... Hmm, But my jokes have no brooms or swifer jets. /images/graemlins/smile.gif

RK /images/graemlins/wink.gif Radha Krishna. I am spoiling your thread and blaming it on my krishna. /images/graemlins/blush.gif Never mind govindaram, you are confused that I see... /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Its not me who is spoiling your thread, its krishna!!! ah! stop it krishna!!! stop spoiling govindaram's thread !!! /images/graemlins/wink.gif Hare krishna, you need to be conditioned into finding humour in these jokes. /images/graemlins/grin.gif Other wise, its not possible

I wear shoes, can I walk with out them? ....its the same thing with the brain-soul situation. I wear a hat, Can I not wear it and still be there? ... its the same thing with the heart- soul situation.

Then you will understand there is God, Why? You know what they say, there is no atheist in a fox hole /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Do you believe there is air? if you do... where is it? I can't see it! where is it! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif just the same, where is the light? I have closed my eyes, so I declare that the world has no light. Just the same, where is god? I have closed my spirituality links so i declare there is no god. thank you have a nice day /images/graemlins/smile.gif

Jokester: Why did Orange stop in the middle of the street? /images/graemlins/smile.gif Children: why?! /images/graemlins/confused.gif Jokester: because it ran out of juice. /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/tongue.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif Children : /images/graemlins/laugh.gif /images/graemlins/cool.gif /images/graemlins/smirk.gif /images/graemlins/wink.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/smile.gif /images/graemlins/laugh.gif 2) why did the chicken cross the street? /images/graemlins/grin.gif Children: why ? /images/graemlins/ooo.gif Answer: Because its a free country! /images/graemlins/shocked.gif /images/graemlins/mad.gif it can do what ever it wants, if it wants to cross the street it will! who are you to ask? /images/graemlins/shocked.gif ____ /images/graemlins/smile.gif

In hinduism , there are many beliefs , 1) The first belief is that if you worship the demigod so much , to relish that love the true god will come in that form to connect with you.- this was said by my grandfather, he was like an acharya in South India. 2) The second belief is that if you worship the demigods then you go to their planets to live there until your punya has run out. - thats what vaishnavas believe. Because, As you have said, there is only one God who controls even the Demigods. The demigods are for his enjoyment. To think of it, demigods are like angels in Islam. They carry out their functions. I think this makes sense, kind of for you. If not please consult a person who is really an expert in this religion, because I am not that person. /images/graemlins/crazy.gif Anyway, thanks for reading. /images/graemlins/grin.gif Gotta run and study for my SATs.

when we are trying to reach our goal through devotional service, it is wise to concentrate on one thing, so the rest of the ways are ignored, but they are not rejected as if they are untrue .

I can read for S.A.T.s and then leave the result for krishna, can it be brought down to that of a simple level? So can that be self situated thing to do ?

would be when we give up the result of the actions and carry on daily activities? or is it doing stuff in the temple and everything?

It is a state of non attachment...? Non attachment to anything...?

I can't find the exact place but i am going to use Ghari's postings ... [METHOD 1] Just fix your mind upon Me, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, and engage all your intelligence in Me. Thus you will live in Me always, without a doubt. My dear Arjuna, O winner of wealth, if you cannot fix your mind upon Me without deviation, then [METHOD 2] follow the regulative principles of bhakti-yoga. In this way develop a desire to attain Me. If you cannot practice the regulations of bhakti-yoga, then just try to [METHOD 3] work for Me, because by working for Me you will come to the perfect stage. If, however, you are unable to work in this consciousness of Me, then try to [METHOD 4] act giving up all results of your work and try to be self-situated. If you cannot take to this practice, then [METHOD 7] engage yourself in the cultivation of knowledge. Better than knowledge, however, is [METHOD 6] meditation, and better than meditation is [METHOD 5] renunciation of the fruits of action, for by such renunciation one can attain peace of mind. Thanks Ghari, I hope you don't mind /images/graemlins/grin.gif and thanks living entity, please clear this up /images/graemlins/grin.gif