[Sephiroth]

by Amlesh

No. I've not done anything.
Who was complaining about this and that?
I've put forward only the fact..

Unless you're an qualified expert in Hindusm, your "facts" remains nothing but words, written by a Net user. That is all. In another word, you talked, but did nothing.

I don't have a religion first of all, and I view all other religions as important constituents. I like to let everyone happy in their lala land...

Another word - you're an atheist who is busy wasting other people's time. Well, Good bye.

[Sephiroth]

by learner5612

Samudraullangna (crossing ocean) is considered to be Sin, ... This is completely scientic and it is mentioned in Geeta to have a Saadhu sanga, which means to be with vegie people and also in an environment, where there is a controlled material desire and lust.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:" /><o:p></o:p>

I have no idea what a Samudraullangna supposed to mean. I have check on the Net and got this as result :

http://www.google.com.my/search?hl=e...le+Search&meta=

Which means that the term probably does not exist.

As for your so-called Saadhu Sanga thing ... well, that is merely creation of Vaishnavist followers, not the actual Bhavagad Gita (which I have already mentioned that I have read it).

Thats after the age of Kali started. There has been constant travel across the ocean after the age of Kali started.

No, Age of Kali started when people like you were born. People who does not know crap about Hindusm, or what stated in Bhavagad Gita or what stated by Sri Krishna.

You proclaimed that crossing the ocean is a sin, but forgot that in many incidents, Sri Krishna Himself had involved in various feats which required crossing a body of Water.

When attacked continously by His enemy in Madurai, what did Sri Krishna do? He created Dwarka - a city in the middle of the Indian Ocean (very much like the legendary Atlantis). He took His people ACROSS the Ocean to the new place for their protection.

Also Sri Krishna have asked Arjuna to come and rescue His people from Dwarka when it was about to sink. Sri Krishna Himself HAD crossed the ocean, reached India where He have passed away back to Vaikuntha.

In both incidence, it is evident that Sri Krishna did not follow what He had preached in Bhavagad Gita OR this nonsense about Crossing the Sea does not exist and merely created by people during the Kali Age to ensure that the Hindu society remains in India, never to look outside India and see how others are progressing.

Remember this - As long as Hindus remains isolated and with backwatered mind-set, Hindusm will remain weak, and they will be enslaved by enemies of Hindusm.

[Amlesh]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth Unless you're an qualified expert in Hindusm, your "facts" remains nothing but words, written by a Net user. That is all. In another word, you talked, but did nothing.

You need not be an expert to see what is front you. About the expertise, I meant on means to be perfect in what I'm supposed to be... It's progressive I guess.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth Another word - you're an atheist who is busy wasting other people's time. Well, Good bye.

You are right in this sentence but you forgot to put a blank space between
a and theist in the word atheist. The rest is good, no doubt about that.

Ciao

[Sephiroth]

Originally Posted by Amlesh You are right in this sentence but you forgot to put a blank space between a and theist in the word atheist. The rest is good, no doubt about that. Ciao

The distance of space between a and theist in an Atheist is as far as between Common Sense and Uncontrolled Emotions.

Theism required humans to think within a certain limit, to do what is right and wrong and remember that they WILL be judged according to the actions they have taken (or did not take).

Atheism is animalism - it required Humans to behave like animals - do whatever they please and make whatever excuses they like in order to fool themselves into thinking that they will escape the Judgement of God and this World. Such people is a waste of my time.

[Amlesh]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth The distance of space between a and theist in an Atheist is as far as between Common Sense and Uncontrolled Emotions.

Another definition of Theism is Bhava for God--Uncontrolled Emotions for God.
It seems a bit of contradiction.
It seems that you are filled with uncontrolled emotions concerning of what is happening around in this world.
You know the meaning of Dhira.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth Theism required humans to think within a certain limit, to do what is right and wrong and remember that they WILL be judged according to the actions they have taken (or did not take).

Rise yourself from Vice and Virtue...
A person who has reached the stage of Nirguna or better Bhakti is not afraid of Rewards or Punishment knowing that the cause of all causes is none other than Keshava.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth Atheism is animalism - it required Humans to behave like animals - do whatever they please and make whatever excuses they like in order to fool themselves into thinking that they will escape the Judgement of God and this World. Such people is a waste of my time.

Atheist can be fools but even then they are servant of God...
That only those who see the Lord in everyone's heart can perceive that.

[Amlesh]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth The distance of space between a and theist in an Atheist is as far as between Common Sense and Uncontrolled Emotions.

Another definition of Theism is Bhava for God--Uncontrolled Emotions for God.
It seems a bit of contradiction.
It seems that you are filled with uncontrolled emotions concerning of what is happening around in this world.
You know the meaning of Dhira.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth Theism required humans to think within a certain limit, to do what is right and wrong and remember that they WILL be judged according to the actions they have taken (or did not take).

Rise yourself from Vice and Virtue...
A person who has reached the stage of Nirguna or better Bhakti is not afraid of Rewards or Punishment knowing that the cause of all causes is none other than Keshava.

Originally Posted by Sephiroth Atheism is animalism - it required Humans to behave like animals - do whatever they please and make whatever excuses they like in order to fool themselves into thinking that they will escape the Judgement of God and this World. Such people is a waste of my time.

Atheist can be fools but even then they are servant of God...
That only those who see the Lord in everyone's heart can perceive that.
They can't be a waste of Time as you were from time without a beginning.
Atheist will become ATheist with a space in between A and Theist some day or the other.

[mysticmani]

[Sephiroth]

by Amlesh

Another definition of Theism is Bhava for God--Uncontrolled Emotions for God.

In my opinion, there is no need for uncontrolled emotions when dealing with God. Rationalism and Logic itself are enough.

You know the meaning of Dhira.
No Sir, I do not.

A person who has reached the stage of Nirguna or better Bhakti is not afraid of Rewards or Punishment knowing that the cause of all causes is none other than Keshava.

And we not for certain that most people do not reach the stage of Nirguna or Bhakti. Some do but majority do not. So why pretend you are any wiser when you are living in a World full of ignorant people?

Atheist can be fools but even then they are servant of God...
Nope, an Atheists serves no one but themselves. Yet they blame everyone (including God) for their suffering, BUT themselves. That is why they are fools.

Even a theists who do not know his God is a waste of time. Chanting and singing with blind faith does not render one faithful. Time have come when the faithful MUST use logic and rationalism, rather than blind faith, to show their faith to God.

[Amlesh]

Originally Posted by Sephiroth by Amlesh Another definition of Theism is Bhava for God--Uncontrolled Emotions for God. In my opinion, there is no need for uncontrolled emotions when dealing with God. Rationalism and Logic itself are enough. You know the meaning of Dhira. No Sir, I do not. A person who has reached the stage of Nirguna or better Bhakti is not afraid of Rewards or Punishment knowing that the cause of all causes is none other than Keshava. And we not for certain that most people do not reach the stage of Nirguna or Bhakti. Some do but majority do not. So why pretend you are any wiser when you are living in a World full of ignorant people? Atheist can be fools but even then they are servant of God... Nope, an Atheists serves no one but themselves. Yet they blame everyone (including God) for their suffering, BUT themselves. That is why they are fools. Even a theists who do not know his God is a waste of time. Chanting and singing with blind faith does not render one faithful. Time have come when the faithful MUST use logic and rationalism, rather than blind faith, to show their faith to God.

It took you quite a long time to respond to that.
Anyways... I like to be in the read only mode these days.