Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

[Guest guest]

Dear Girish,

 

Fulfillment of materialistic needs is

essential for spiritual growth for ordinary mortals like us. Financial

insecurity is not a nutritious ground for spiritual development. I am not

talking of a person like Shirdi Sai Baba, for whom money did not hold any value

at all and his spiritual development didn’t need it. I am talking about you and

me ordinary people.

 

Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for

money and wealth which is essential for your survival, for your family’s existence

and for future security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly

it doesn’t work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the

next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not interested

in spiritual development.

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Girish menon

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

10:46 AM

To:

 

Re:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh

Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and

> humility.

People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the

population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days

miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth

and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs.

Thanks and regards

Girish

 

--- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in>

wrote:

 

Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in>

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

Combust ?

 

Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM

 

 

Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

 

How must one pray to God ?

 

Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or

aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of

worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti or

anything else?

 

Which is most effective.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_

astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@.. .>

wrote:

>

> You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

>

>

>

> Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity

and

> humility.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> ancient_indian_

astrology

> [ancient_indian_

astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya

> Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> ancient_indian_

astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Members,

>

> In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do

> give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly

> inexpensive if done by ourselves.

>

> I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had

> asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I

go

> to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of

> those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

millions of

> people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is

> getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.

>

> Vidya

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar ji,

 

Further from Prof Choudhry on the 2012

period

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

Hello dear Mr. Hahne,

 

There is no end of life and the life goes as ever.

There would be prolonged transit influences of Rahu, Ketu,

Saturn and Jupiter and which create multiple stresses including emotional,

health, obstructions, professional problems and mental stresses wherein a

natural course is that people start searching solace in spiritual pursuits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Tuesday, December 08, 2009

4:08 PM

To:

 

 

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh ji,

 

I hold Shri Chawdhary Sahab in high esteem and as a very revered and

knowledgable personality in astrology. He must have given some freasons

for this judgement I hope.

 

regards,

 

Bhaskar.

 

,

" Santhosh "

<santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

>

>

> With regard to an earlier post from your on the year 2012, following

is a

> post on SA group:-

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear list members

>

>

>

> No major catastrophy for the human race or the world is expected

during 2012

> as propagated by some following the Mayan Calancer.

>

>

>

> But the year 2012 is likely to bringing some difficult challenges for

the

> people on economic front and some challenges in the field of health

and

> natural calamities in many parts of the world including USA and India.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Santosh ji,

 

// I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem and

ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord what

you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

comparison.//

 

I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

 

When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God is

there and (2) God is listening.

 

This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front of

Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care for

what people think of him.

 

Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, japa

are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking with God

does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of the day, when one

is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

>

>

> All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church or

> a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> differentiate between the place.

>

>

>

> Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or stotras

> or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

>

>

>

> You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on that

> mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated now)

> I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem and

> ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord

> what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

> comparison.

>

>

>

> The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it is

> silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when you

> are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

>

>

>

> You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of Agarbathis

> and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core prayer

> is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

>

>

>

> Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration from

> where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of emotion.

> Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

>

>

>

> Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a higher

> level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your heart

> at the end of the rituals.

>

>

>

> Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of

> effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer itself.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

_____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

>

> How must one pray to God ?

>

> Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or

> aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of

> worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti

> or anything else?

>

> Which is most effective.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> >

> >

> >

> > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and

> > humility.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ] On Behalf Of Vidya

> > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do

> > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly

> > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> >

> > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had

> > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go

> > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of

> > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions

> of

> > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is

> > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

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> > 01:24:00

> >

>

>

>

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Dear friends,

 

Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs

Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate.

Cant do that also without money.

 

But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones hard

work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not

there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the

satisfaction of having tried to earn money.

 

If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh

looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In

same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving

you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its

results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ?

Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not.

 

One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love.

 

Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> Dear Girish,

>

>

>

> Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for

> ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground

> for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai

> Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual

> development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people.

>

>

>

> Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is

> essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future

> security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it

> doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the

> next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not

> interested in spiritual development.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Girish menon

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM

>

> Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

Dear Santosh

> Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and

> > humility.

> People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the

> population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days

> miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth

> and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs.

> Thanks and regards

> Girish

>

> --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

> Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM

>

>

>

> Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

>

> How must one pray to God ?

>

> Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or

> aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of

> worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti

> or anything else?

>

> Which is most effective.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@

> .> wrote:

> >

> > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> >

> >

> >

> > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and

> > humility.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya

> > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do

> > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly

> > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> >

> > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had

> > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go

> > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of

> > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions

> of

> > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is

> > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

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> > 01:24:00

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You knew the answer and you were testing

me J

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

11:39 AM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Santosh ji,

 

// I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem and

ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord what

you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

comparison.//

 

I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

 

When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God is

there and (2) God is listening.

 

This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front of

Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care for

what people think of him.

 

Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, japa

are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking with God

does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of the day, when

one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

 

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

,

" Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

>

>

> All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church

or

> a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> differentiate between the place.

>

>

>

> Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

stotras

> or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

>

>

>

> You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on that

> mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated

now)

> I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem

and

> ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord

> what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

> comparison.

>

>

>

> The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it is

> silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when

you

> are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

>

>

>

> You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of Agarbathis

> and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

prayer

> is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

>

>

>

> Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration from

> where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of emotion.

> Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

>

>

>

> Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a higher

> level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your heart

> at the end of the rituals.

>

>

>

> Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of

> effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

itself.

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

>

> How must one pray to God ?

>

> Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or

> aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm

of

> worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti

> or anything else?

>

> Which is most effective.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology ,

" Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> >

> >

> >

> > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity

and

> > humility.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ]

On Behalf Of Vidya

> > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Members,

> >

> > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting

do

> > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is

fairly

> > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> >

> > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we

had

> > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when

I go

> > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of

> > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

millions

> of

> > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind

is

> > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to

waste.

> >

> > Vidya

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date:

12/09/09

> > 01:24:00

> >

>

>

>

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Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

I would like to disagree to some extent.

 

We have enough deities. Some say 33 Koti. That 'koti'

may mean Crore (10 million) or may also mean 'Quality'

(as used for quality control labs).

 

So many deities are there because people of different

qualities may relate to different deities easiliy and start

praying. A businessman would pray to Laxmi-ji & Ganesh-ji

whereas a student will pary to Saraswati-ji.

 

Let us pour our heart out to God. Let God decide what is best

for us and act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that

we know our needs more clearly than God does. And let us

not restrict ourselves in front of God. Because praying is also

a sort of purifying process.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

On Behalf Of BhaskarWednesday, December 09, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

Dear friends,Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate. Cant do that also without money.But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones hard work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the satisfaction of having tried to earn money. If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ? Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not.One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love.Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le. best wishes,Bhaskar. , "Santhosh" <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Girish,> > > > Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for> ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground> for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai> Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual> development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people.> > > > Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is> essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future> security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it> doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the> next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not> interested in spiritual development.> > > > Regards> > Santhosh> > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Girish menon> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM> > Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> Combust ?> > > > > > > Dear Santosh> Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > humility.> People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the> population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days> miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth> and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs.> Thanks and regards> Girish> > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> Combust ?> > Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM> > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,> > How must one pray to God ?> > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or> aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of> worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti> or anything else?> > Which is most effective. > > regards/Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> .> wrote:> >> > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji> > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > humility.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya> > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do> > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly> > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its> > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had> > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go> > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of> > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions> of> > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is> > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.> > > > Vidya> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> > 01:24:00> >> > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> 01:24:00>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. 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Dear Chakraborty ji

 

These 33 karod devi devatas are all manifestations of the same Trimurti, Brahma,

Vishnu and Mahesh. If one does not wish to pray to any of these but wants God,

then one can take a agarabatti and start praying in front of a cow, for its said

that in a cow there is " vaas " of all these " taintees karod devi devatas " . But

understandable we need a face to relate to, a form to love, a name to refer to,

hence one choose Lord Krishna, rama,Shankar or whatever.

 

// There is no reason to believe that

we know our needs more clearly than God does//

 

If there is no reason for us to beleieve above, then why to remind God about

money and such nonsense matters which as per your above lines, He already knows?

This is like without studying his books the student goes to his class Teacher

and tells him " Please give me good marks " . Is this right ?

 

// Let us pour our heart out to God.//

 

pouring our heart is a seperate matter. crying in love or pain is a seperate

matter. But crying for material wants is the most dirty thing one could ask God.

We must be eligible from the strength of our Karmas to receive this and not ask

God.

 

//And let us

> not restrict ourselves in front of God. //

 

Not restricting does not mean laying down a shopping List in front of Him and

telling him with tears in our eyes " What to do "

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar-ji,

>

> I would like to disagree to some extent.

>

> We have enough deities. Some say 33 Koti. That 'koti'

> may mean Crore (10 million) or may also mean 'Quality'

> (as used for quality control labs).

>

> So many deities are there because people of different

> qualities may relate to different deities easiliy and start

> praying. A businessman would pray to Laxmi-ji & Ganesh-ji

> whereas a student will pary to Saraswati-ji.

>

> Let us pour our heart out to God. Let God decide what is best

> for us and act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that

> we know our needs more clearly than God does. And let us

> not restrict ourselves in front of God. Because praying is also

> a sort of purifying process.

>

> regards

>

> Chakraborty

>

>

> ________________________________

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:50 AM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust

?

>

>

>

> Dear friends,

>

> Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs

Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate.

Cant do that also without money.

>

> But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones

hard work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not

there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the

satisfaction of having tried to earn money.

>

> If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh

looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In

same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving

you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its

results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ?

Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not.

>

> One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love.

>

> Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

>

> --- In

<%40\

groups.com>, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Girish,

> >

> >

> >

> > Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for

> > ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground

> > for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai

> > Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual

> > development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people.

> >

> >

> >

> > Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is

> > essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future

> > security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it

> > doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the

> > next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not

> > interested in spiritual development.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

<%40\

groups.com>

> >

[ <\

%40>] On Behalf Of Girish menon

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM

> > To:

<%40\

groups.com>

> > Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Santosh

> > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and

> > > humility.

> > People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the

> > population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days

> > miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth

> > and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs.

> > Thanks and regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> > To:

<%40\

groups.com>

> > Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> >

> > How must one pray to God ?

> >

> > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or

> > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of

> > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti

> > or anything else?

> >

> > Which is most effective.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@

> > .> wrote:

> > >

> > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and

> > > humility.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya

> > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do

> > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly

> > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > >

> > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had

> > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go

> > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of

> > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions

> > of

> > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is

> > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.

> > >

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09

> > > 01:24:00

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09

> > 01:24:00

> >

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask my wife

about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

 

Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am not

doing, so I know nothing.

 

Cheers,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Santosh ji,

>

> // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem

> and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord

> what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

> comparison.//

>

> I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

>

> When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God

> is there and (2) God is listening.

>

> This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front of

> Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care

> for what people think of him.

>

> Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations,

> japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking

> with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of the

> day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church

> or

> > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> > differentiate between the place.

> >

> >

> >

> > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

> stotras

> > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> >

> >

> >

> > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on that

> > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated

> now)

> > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem

> and

> > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord

> > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

> > comparison.

> >

> >

> >

> > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it is

> > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when

> you

> > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> >

> >

> >

> > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of Agarbathis

> > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

> prayer

> > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> >

> >

> >

> > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration from

> > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of emotion.

> > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> >

> >

> >

> > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a higher

> > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your heart

> > at the end of the rituals.

> >

> >

> >

> > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of

> > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

> itself.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> >

> > How must one pray to God ?

> >

> > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or

> > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm

> of

> > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti

> > or anything else?

> >

> > Which is most effective.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity

> and

> > > humility.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Vidya

> > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do

> > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is

> fairly

> > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > >

> > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had

> > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I

> go

> > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of

> > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> millions

> > of

> > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is

> > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.

> > >

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date:

> 12/09/09

> > > 01:24:00

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09

> > 01:24:00

> >

>

>

>

>

> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09

> 01:24:00

>

[Guest guest]

You a celebrity astrologer and not

earning!!! Well welll…

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

12:14 PM

To:

 

Subject:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others

share their views. Ask my wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing.

He is a time waster. "

 

Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which

I am not doing, so I know nothing.

 

Cheers,

Bhaskar.

 

,

" Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:

>

> You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Santosh ji,

>

> // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

problem

> and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

lord

> what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

> comparison.//

>

> I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with

God " .

>

> When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God

> is there and (2) God is listening.

>

> This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front

of

> Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care

> for what people think of him.

>

> Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations,

> japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking

> with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of

the

> day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

>

> best wishes,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology ,

" Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian

church

> or

> > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> > differentiate between the place.

> >

> >

> >

> > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

> stotras

> > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> >

> >

> >

> > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on

that

> > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated

> now)

> > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

problem

> and

> > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

lord

> > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

full in

> > comparison.

> >

> >

> >

> > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when

it is

> > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and

when

> you

> > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> >

> >

> >

> > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

Agarbathis

> > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

> prayer

> > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> >

> >

> >

> > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration

from

> > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

emotion.

> > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> >

> >

> >

> > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a

higher

> > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your

heart

> > at the end of the rituals.

> >

> >

> >

> > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of

> > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

> itself.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ]

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> >

> > How must one pray to God ?

> >

> > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently

or

> > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate

forsm

> of

> > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

agarbatti

> > or anything else?

> >

> > Which is most effective.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

sincerity

> and

> > > humility.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Vidya

> > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Members,

> > >

> > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

fasting do

> > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it

is

> fairly

> > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > >

> > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts

its

> > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be

what we had

> > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like

when I

> go

> > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind

any of

> > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> millions

> > of

> > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

mankind is

> > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone

to waste.

> > >

> > > Vidya

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

 

In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

 

Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms of

contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to lady. For

some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their wife will provide

shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K and plus may only

bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me wrong I do not mean

to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of what could happen in

different home with different types of ladies.

 

Cheers,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask my

> wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

>

> Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am

> not doing, so I know nothing.

>

> Cheers,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Santosh ji,

> >

> > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> problem

> > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

> lord

> > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in

> > comparison.//

> >

> > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

> >

> > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God

> > is there and (2) God is listening.

> >

> > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front

> of

> > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care

> > for what people think of him.

> >

> > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations,

> > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking

> > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of

> the

> > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church

> > or

> > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> > > differentiate between the place.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

> > stotras

> > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on

> that

> > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated

> > now)

> > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem

> > and

> > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord

> > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full

> in

> > > comparison.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it

> is

> > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when

> > you

> > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> Agarbathis

> > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

> > prayer

> > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration

> from

> > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> emotion.

> > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a

> higher

> > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your

> heart

> > > at the end of the rituals.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of

> > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

> > itself.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > >

> > > How must one pray to God ?

> > >

> > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or

> > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate

> forsm

> > of

> > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> agarbatti

> > > or anything else?

> > >

> > > Which is most effective.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity

> > and

> > > > humility.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Vidya

> > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do

> > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is

> > fairly

> > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > >

> > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we

> had

> > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when

> I

> > go

> > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of

> > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> > millions

> > > of

> > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is

> > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to

> waste.

> > > >

> > > > Vidya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

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> > 12/09/09

> > > > 01:24:00

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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> >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Bhaskar-ji,

 

Yes, we need to have something (face / idea) to relate to, revere to

and pray to.

 

Most of the times, we wish for wrong things...because our

root identification was wrong. Like asking for 1 million dollar

(we have thought that money would make us happy and happiness

that we do desire) rather than asking for happiness.

 

Tagore had written somewhere that

 

'Jaha chai taha bhul kore chai

jaha chai ta paina'

 

(Jo chahte hain, woh galat chahte hain

Jo chahte hain..woh milta nahin).

 

So, it is much easier to pray to God saying that this

is my condition. Please do something about it..

 

I am not asking anybody to give laundry list.

Once somebody starts praying regularly with sincere

heart, he will undergo some changes from inside. And

if we can not talk freely to God...then with whom would

we talk freely ?

 

Some people will always pray to God for thousand things.

Thankfully, God has not give me enough wisdom so that i

can judge them

 

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of BhaskarWednesday, December 09, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

Dear Chakraborty jiThese 33 karod devi devatas are all manifestations of the same Trimurti, Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. If one does not wish to pray to any of these but wants God, then one can take a agarabatti and start praying in front of a cow, for its said that in a cow there is "vaas" of all these "taintees karod devi devatas". But understandable we need a face to relate to, a form to love, a name to refer to, hence one choose Lord Krishna, rama,Shankar or whatever.// There is no reason to believe thatwe know our needs more clearly than God does//If there is no reason for us to beleieve above, then why to remind God about money and such nonsense matters which as per your above lines, He already knows? This is like without studying his books the student goes to his class Teacher and tells him "Please give me good marks". Is this right ? // Let us pour our heart out to God.//pouring our heart is a seperate matter. crying in love or pain is a seperate matter. But crying for material wants is the most dirty thing one could ask God. We must be eligible from the strength of our Karmas to receive this and not ask God.//And let us> not restrict ourselves in front of God. //Not restricting does not mean laying down a shopping List in front of Him and telling him with tears in our eyes "What to do "regards/Bhaskar. , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar-ji,> > I would like to disagree to some extent.> > We have enough deities. Some say 33 Koti. That 'koti'> may mean Crore (10 million) or may also mean 'Quality'> (as used for quality control labs).> > So many deities are there because people of different> qualities may relate to different deities easiliy and start> praying. A businessman would pray to Laxmi-ji & Ganesh-ji> whereas a student will pary to Saraswati-ji.> > Let us pour our heart out to God. Let God decide what is best> for us and act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that> we know our needs more clearly than God does. And let us> not restrict ourselves in front of God. Because praying is also> a sort of purifying process.> > regards> > Chakraborty> > > ________________________________> On Behalf Of Bhaskar> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:50 AM> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?> > > > Dear friends,> > Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate. Cant do that also without money.> > But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones hard work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the satisfaction of having tried to earn money.> > If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ? Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not.> > One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love.> > Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le.> > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > <%40>, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear Girish,> >> >> >> > Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for> > ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground> > for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai> > Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual> > development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people.> >> >> >> > Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is> > essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future> > security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it> > doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the> > next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not> > interested in spiritual development.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Santhosh> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> > <%40>> > [ <%40>] On Behalf Of Girish menon> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM> > <%40>> > Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > Combust ?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Santosh> > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > > humility.> > People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the> > population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days> > miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth> > and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs.> > Thanks and regards> > Girish> >> > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > Combust ?> > <%40>> > Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM> >> >> >> > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,> >> > How must one pray to God ?> >> > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or> > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of> > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti> > or anything else?> >> > Which is most effective.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> > .> wrote:> > >> > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji> > >> > >> > >> > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > > humility.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Santhosh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya> > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > Combust ?> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > >> > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do> > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly> > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.> > >> > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its> > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had> > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go> > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of> > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions> > of> > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is> > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.> > >> > > Vidya> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> > > 01:24:00> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> > 01:24:00> >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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[Guest guest]

So it all boils down to money and ladies

eh!!

Don’t worry I wont venture any

guesses J

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

12:39 PM

 

Subject:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

 

In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

 

Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms of

contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to

lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their wife

will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K and

plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me wrong

I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of what could

happen in different home with different types of ladies.

 

Cheers,

Bhaskar.

 

,

" Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:

>

> You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask

my

> wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster.

"

>

> Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money "

which I am

> not doing, so I know nothing.

>

> Cheers,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology ,

" Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ]

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Dear Santosh ji,

> >

> > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> problem

> > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

the

> lord

> > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

full in

> > comparison.//

> >

> > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with

God " .

> >

> > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that

(1)God

> > is there and (2) God is listening.

> >

> > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in

front

> of

> > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not

care

> > for what people think of him.

> >

> > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

recitations,

> > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

Talking

> > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime

of

> the

> > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

> >

> > best wishes,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a

X'tian church

> > or

> > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't

definitely

> > > differentiate between the place.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or

tantras or

> > stotras

> > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

 

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically

and

> > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative

remark on

> that

> > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not

moderated

> > now)

> > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

problem

> > and

> > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

the lord

> > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more

power full

> in

> > > comparison.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel

the

> > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as

when it

> is

> > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart

and when

> > you

> > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> Agarbathis

> > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the

core

> > prayer

> > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and

concentration.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of

concentration

> from

> > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> emotion.

> > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very

effective.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present

to a

> higher

> > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from

your

> heart

> > > at the end of the rituals.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a

level of

> > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the

prayer

> > itself.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > >

> > > How must one pray to God ?

> > >

> > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited

silently or

> > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate

> forsm

> > of

> > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> agarbatti

> > > or anything else?

> > >

> > > Which is most effective.

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

sincerity

> > and

> > > > humility.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Vidya

> > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > Re: Is Mercury to

be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Members,

> > > >

> > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

fasting do

> > > > give good results if performed with complete

sincerity..Plus it is

> > fairly

> > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > >

> > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we

doubts its

> > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not

be what we

> had

> > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just

like when

> I

> > go

> > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning

behind any of

> > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You

can see

> > millions

> > > of

> > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

mankind is

> > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever

gone to

> waste.

> > > >

> > > > Vidya

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Sir,

 

In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

 

Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But

otherwise be honest.

 

Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

 

I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you remove

both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? (Now dont

get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

 

But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

>

> Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

>

> In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

>

> Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms

> of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to

> lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their wife

> will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K and

> plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me

> wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of

> what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

>

> Cheers,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask

> my

> > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

> >

> > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am

> > not doing, so I know nothing.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > >

> > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > problem

> > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

> > lord

> > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full

> in

> > > comparison.//

> > >

> > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

> > >

> > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that

> (1)God

> > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> > >

> > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in

> front

> > of

> > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not

> care

> > > for what people think of him.

> > >

> > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

> recitations,

> > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

> Talking

> > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of

> > the

> > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian

> church

> > > or

> > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> > > > differentiate between the place.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

> > > stotras

> > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on

> > that

> > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated

> > > now)

> > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> problem

> > > and

> > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

> lord

> > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full

> > in

> > > > comparison.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it

> > is

> > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and

> when

> > > you

> > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> > Agarbathis

> > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

> > > prayer

> > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration

> > from

> > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> > emotion.

> > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a

> > higher

> > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your

> > heart

> > > > at the end of the rituals.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of

> > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

> > > itself.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Bhaskar

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > > >

> > > > How must one pray to God ?

> > > >

> > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently

> or

> > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate

> > forsm

> > > of

> > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> > agarbatti

> > > > or anything else?

> > > >

> > > > Which is most effective.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

> sincerity

> > > and

> > > > > humility.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Vidya

> > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered

> as

> > > > > Combust ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting

> do

> > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is

> > > fairly

> > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its

> > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we

> > had

> > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like

> when

> > I

> > > go

> > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any

> of

> > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> > > millions

> > > > of

> > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind

> is

> > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to

> > waste.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vidya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> > > 12/09/09

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My Dear Friend,

 

I am 100% with you on this.

 

Regards]

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

1:37 PM

 

Subject:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

Sir,

 

In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

 

Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But

otherwise be honest.

 

Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

 

I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you remove

both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? (Now dont

get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

 

But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

,

" Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:

>

> So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

>

> Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

>

> In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

>

> Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms

> of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady

to

> lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their

wife

> will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K

and

> plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me

> wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of

> what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

>

> Cheers,

> Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology ,

" Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ]

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views.

Ask

> my

> > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time

waster. "

> >

> > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good

money " which I am

> > not doing, so I know nothing.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > >

> > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on

our

> > problem

> > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest

to the

> > lord

> > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more

power full

> in

> > > comparison.//

> > >

> > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with

God " .

> > >

> > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith

that

> (1)God

> > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> > >

> > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting

in

> front

> > of

> > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God

does not

> care

> > > for what people think of him.

> > >

> > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

> recitations,

> > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life,

but

> Talking

> > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him

anytime of

> > the

> > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling

alone.

> > >

> > > best wishes,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a

X'tian

> church

> > > or

> > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't

definitely

> > > > differentiate between the place.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or

tantras or

> > > stotras

> > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the

heart.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras

mechanically and

> > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative

remark on

> > that

> > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am

not moderated

> > > now)

> > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate

on our

> problem

> > > and

> > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't

suggest to the

> lord

> > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more

power full

> > in

> > > > comparison.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I

feel the

> > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive

as when it

> > is

> > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your

heart and

> when

> > > you

> > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with

lots of

> > Agarbathis

> > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if

the core

> > > prayer

> > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and

concentration.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of

concentration

> > from

> > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with

lots of

> > emotion.

> > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very

effective.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody

present to a

> > higher

> > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate

from your

> > heart

> > > > at the end of the rituals.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into

a level of

> > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being

the prayer

> > > itself.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Bhaskar

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > Re: Is Mercury to

be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > > >

> > > > How must one pray to God ?

> > > >

> > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited

silently

> or

> > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship,

elaborate

> > forsm

> > > of

> > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just

lighting an

> > agarbatti

> > > > or anything else?

> > > >

> > > > Which is most effective.

> > > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with

utmost

> sincerity

> > > and

> > > > > humility.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Vidya

> > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > > Re: Is

Mercury to be considered

> as

> > > > > Combust ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > >

> > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers,

puja, fasting

> do

> > > > > give good results if performed with complete

sincerity..Plus it is

> > > fairly

> > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > > >

> > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or

we doubts its

> > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may

not be what we

> > had

> > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is

just like

> when

> > I

> > > go

> > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the

meaning behind any

> of

> > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it.

You can see

> > > millions

> > > > of

> > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of

worship so mankind

> is

> > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is

ever gone to

> > waste.

> > > > >

> > > > > Vidya

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Thank You,

 

We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and

have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions(Not in

details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man

out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till

now, which is why we see less of action here.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> My Dear Friend,

>

>

>

> I am 100% with you on this.

>

>

>

> Regards]

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

>

> Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But

> otherwise be honest.

>

> Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

>

> I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you

> remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?

> (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

>

> But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

> >

> > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

> >

> > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

> >

> > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms

> > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to

> > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their

> wife

> > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K

> and

> > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me

> > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of

> > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask

> > my

> > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

> > >

> > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I

> am

> > > not doing, so I know nothing.

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Bhaskar

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > > >

> > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > > problem

> > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

> the

> > > lord

> > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full

> > in

> > > > comparison.//

> > > >

> > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

> > > >

> > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that

> > (1)God

> > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> > > >

> > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in

> > front

> > > of

> > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not

> > care

> > > > for what people think of him.

> > > >

> > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

> > recitations,

> > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

> > Talking

> > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime

> of

> > > the

> > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian

> > church

> > > > or

> > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> > > > > differentiate between the place.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

> > > > stotras

> > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on

> > > that

> > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not

> moderated

> > > > now)

> > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > problem

> > > > and

> > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

> > lord

> > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

> full

> > > in

> > > > > comparison.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when

> it

> > > is

> > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and

> > when

> > > > you

> > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> > > Agarbathis

> > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

> > > > prayer

> > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration

> > > from

> > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> > > emotion.

> > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a

> > > higher

> > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your

> > > heart

> > > > > at the end of the rituals.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level

> of

> > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

> > > > itself.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Bhaskar

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered

> as

> > > > > Combust ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > How must one pray to God ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently

> > or

> > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate

> > > forsm

> > > > of

> > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> > > agarbatti

> > > > > or anything else?

> > > > >

> > > > > Which is most effective.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

> > sincerity

> > > > and

> > > > > > humility.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Santhosh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> > > Behalf

> > > > Of Vidya

> > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be

> considered

> > as

> > > > > > Combust ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

> fasting

> > do

> > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is

> > > > fairly

> > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts

> its

> > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what

> we

> > > had

> > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like

> > when

> > > I

> > > > go

> > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any

> > of

> > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> > > > millions

> > > > > of

> > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

> mankind

> > is

> > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to

> > > waste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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[Guest guest]

So its like a few of left here is it? It

is like all our family member have gone to another place for some marriage or

something, except that it is not such an auspicious function. What are they

discussing about so seriously and which is the group?

 

I am also into Kerala astrology group and Sureshji

is teaching Kalachakra dasa now. We have just begun the preliminaries.I am only

on these two groups and nowhere else.

 

In KP I have seen that both day lord and

hour lord can be considered as RP. Which do you consider?

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

2:47 PM

 

Subject:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

Thank You,

 

We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and

have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions(Not

in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that

man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling

till now, which is why we see less of action here.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

,

" Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:

>

> My Dear Friend,

>

>

>

> I am 100% with you on this.

>

>

>

> Regards]

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

>

> Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter.

But

> otherwise be honest.

>

> Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

>

> I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you

> remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?

> (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

>

> But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology ,

" Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

> >

> > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ]

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

> >

> > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

> >

> > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in

terms

> > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from

lady to

> > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month,

their

> wife

> > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even

Rs.50K

> and

> > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont

get me

> > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just

informing of

> > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their

views. Ask

> > my

> > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time

waster. "

> > >

> > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good

money " which I

> am

> > > not doing, so I know nothing.

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Bhaskar

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > Re: Is Mercury to

be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > > >

> > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and

concentrate on our

> > > problem

> > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't

suggest to

> the

> > > lord

> > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more

power full

> > in

> > > > comparison.//

> > > >

> > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking

with God " .

> > > >

> > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith

that

> > (1)God

> > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> > > >

> > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person

sitting in

> > front

> > > of

> > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with

God does not

> > care

> > > > for what people think of him.

> > > >

> > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras,

Stotras,

> > recitations,

> > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones

Life, but

> > Talking

> > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with

Him anytime

> of

> > > the

> > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is

feeling alone.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer

in a X'tian

> > church

> > > > or

> > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power

doesn't definitely

> > > > > differentiate between the place.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras

or tantras or

> > > > stotras

> > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of

the heart.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras

mechanically and

> > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any

negative remark on

> > > that

> > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I

am not

> moderated

> > > > now)

> > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and

concentrate on our

> > problem

> > > > and

> > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't

suggest to the

> > lord

> > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be

more power

> full

> > > in

> > > > > comparison.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud,

I feel the

> > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as

intensive as when

> it

> > > is

> > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into

your heart and

> > when

> > > > you

> > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible,

with lots of

> > > Agarbathis

> > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be

effective if the core

> > > > prayer

> > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and

concentration.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of

concentration

> > > from

> > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and

with lots of

> > > emotion.

> > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be

very effective.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody

present to a

> > > higher

> > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to

communicate from your

> > > heart

> > > > > at the end of the rituals.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter

into a level

> of

> > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras

being the prayer

> > > > itself.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Bhaskar

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > > Re: Is

Mercury to be considered

> as

> > > > > Combust ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > How must one pray to God ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be

recited silently

> > or

> > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual

worship, elaborate

> > > forsm

> > > > of

> > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just

lighting an

> > > agarbatti

> > > > > or anything else?

> > > > >

> > > > > Which is most effective.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com,

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done

with utmost

> > sincerity

> > > > and

> > > > > > humility.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Santhosh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com] On

> > > Behalf

> > > > Of Vidya

> > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40>

ps.com

> > > > > > Re: Is

Mercury to be

> considered

> > as

> > > > > > Combust ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like

prayers, puja,

> fasting

> > do

> > > > > > give good results if performed with complete

sincerity..Plus it is

> > > > fairly

> > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is

lacking, or we doubts

> its

> > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It

may not be what

> we

> > > had

> > > > > > asked for but something good is always

rewarded..It is just like

> > when

> > > I

> > > > go

> > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the

meaning behind any

> > of

> > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing

it. You can see

> > > > millions

> > > > > of

> > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of

worship so

> mankind

> > is

> > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort

is ever gone to

> > > waste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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I consider only 4 Planets. LSRD.

 

The lagna star I take only when necessary.

If I take the hour Lord, then it will make it 6 planets in the RP's. What is the

sense of so many planets, is what I feel.

 

The Lagna Lord itself suffices for the Hour Lord. the Day Lord is important in

some cases though it appears last in order of importance.

 

Aap jaaiye " Jyotish group " mein aur fight join kar leejiye. HaHaHa.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> So its like a few of left here is it? It is like all our family member have

> gone to another place for some marriage or something, except that it is not

> such an auspicious function. What are they discussing about so seriously and

> which is the group?

>

>

>

> I am also into Kerala astrology group and Sureshji is teaching Kalachakra

> dasa now. We have just begun the preliminaries.I am only on these two groups

> and nowhere else.

>

>

>

> In KP I have seen that both day lord and hour lord can be considered as RP.

> Which do you consider?

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:47 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Thank You,

>

> We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

> members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum

> and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their

> discussions(Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not

> been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they

> may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action

> here.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > My Dear Friend,

> >

> >

> >

> > I am 100% with you on this.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards]

> >

> >

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > [ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sir,

> >

> > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

> >

> > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter.

> But

> > otherwise be honest.

> >

> > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

> >

> > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you

> > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?

> > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

> >

> > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

> > >

> > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

> > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

> > >

> > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

> > >

> > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in

> terms

> > > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to

> > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their

> > wife

> > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K

> > and

> > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get

> me

> > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing

> of

> > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

> > > >

> > > > Regards

> > > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Bhaskar

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <%40>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views.

> Ask

> > > my

> > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

> > > >

> > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I

> > am

> > > > not doing, so I know nothing.

> > > >

> > > > Cheers,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Bhaskar

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <%40>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered

> as

> > > > > Combust ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > > > problem

> > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

> > the

> > > > lord

> > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

> full

> > > in

> > > > > comparison.//

> > > > >

> > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

> > > > >

> > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that

> > > (1)God

> > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> > > > >

> > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in

> > > front

> > > > of

> > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does

> not

> > > care

> > > > > for what people think of him.

> > > > >

> > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

> > > recitations,

> > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

> > > Talking

> > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime

> > of

> > > > the

> > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

> > > > >

> > > > > best wishes,

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian

> > > church

> > > > > or

> > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't

> definitely

> > > > > > differentiate between the place.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras

> or

> > > > > stotras

> > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically

> and

> > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark

> on

> > > > that

> > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not

> > moderated

> > > > > now)

> > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > > problem

> > > > > and

> > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

> the

> > > lord

> > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

> > full

> > > > in

> > > > > > comparison.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as

> when

> > it

> > > > is

> > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart

> and

> > > when

> > > > > you

> > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> > > > Agarbathis

> > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the

> core

> > > > > prayer

> > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of

> concentration

> > > > from

> > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> > > > emotion.

> > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to

> a

> > > > higher

> > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from

> your

> > > > heart

> > > > > > at the end of the rituals.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level

> > of

> > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the

> prayer

> > > > > itself.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Santhosh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On

> > > Behalf

> > > > Of Bhaskar

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <%40>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be

> considered

> > as

> > > > > > Combust ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > How must one pray to God ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited

> silently

> > > or

> > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship,

> elaborate

> > > > forsm

> > > > > of

> > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> > > > agarbatti

> > > > > > or anything else?

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Which is most effective.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com,

> > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

> > > sincerity

> > > > > and

> > > > > > > humility.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Santhosh

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

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> > > > > > <%40>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com]

> On

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> > > > > Of Vidya

> > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <%40>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be

> > considered

> > > as

> > > > > > > Combust ?

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

> > fasting

> > > do

> > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it

> is

> > > > > fairly

> > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts

> > its

> > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be

> what

> > we

> > > > had

> > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like

> > > when

> > > > I

> > > > > go

> > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind

> any

> > > of

> > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> > > > > millions

> > > > > > of

> > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

> > mankind

> > > is

> > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone

> to

> > > > waste.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

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Dear Bhaskar jiCan you please tell which forum is itRegardsGirish--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM

 

 

Thank You,

 

We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here.

 

regards/Bhaskar.

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@.. .> wrote:

>

> My Dear Friend,

>

>

>

> I am 100% with you on this.

>

>

>

> Regards]

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> Sir,

>

> In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

>

> Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But

> otherwise be honest.

>

> Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

>

> I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you

> remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?

> (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

>

> But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

> ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

> >

> > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com

> > [ancient_ indian_

> <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> astrology@grou ps.com

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

> >

> > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

> >

> > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms

> > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to

> > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their

> wife

> > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K

> and

> > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me

> > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of

> > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

> >

> > Cheers,

> > Bhaskar.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

> > >

> > > Regards

> > >

> > > Santhosh

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > [ancient_ indian_

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf

> Of Bhaskar

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > Combust ?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask

> > my

> > > wife about me. She will say "he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

> > >

> > > Boss knowing in this material world means "Earning good money" which I

> am

> > > not doing, so I know nothing.

> > >

> > > Cheers,

> > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_

> <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > > [ancient_ indian_

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

> Behalf

> > Of Bhaskar

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > > > ancient_indian_

> <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > > > Combust ?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > > >

> > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > > problem

> > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

> the

> > > lord

> > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full

> > in

> > > > comparison./ /

> > > >

> > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer,"Talking with God".

> > > >

> > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that

> > (1)God

> > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> > > >

> > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in

> > front

> > > of

> > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not

> > care

> > > > for what people think of him.

> > > >

> > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

> > recitations,

> > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

> > Talking

> > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime

> of

> > > the

> > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

> > > >

> > > > best wishes,

> > > > Bhaskar.

> > > >

> > > > ancient_indian_

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian

> > church

> > > > or

> > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

> > > > > differentiate between the place.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

> > > > stotras

> > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

> > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on

> > > that

> > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not

> moderated

> > > > now)

> > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > problem

> > > > and

> > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

> > lord

> > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

> full

> > > in

> > > > > comparison.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when

> it

> > > is

> > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and

> > when

> > > > you

> > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> > > Agarbathis

> > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

> > > > prayer

> > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration

> > > from

> > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> > > emotion.

> > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a

> > > higher

> > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your

> > > heart

> > > > > at the end of the rituals.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level

> of

> > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

> > > > itself.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Santhosh

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > _____

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

> > Behalf

> > > Of Bhaskar

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

> as

> > > > > Combust ?

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > > > >

> > > > > How must one pray to God ?

> > > > >

> > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently

> > or

> > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate

> > > forsm

> > > > of

> > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> > > agarbatti

> > > > > or anything else?

> > > > >

> > > > > Which is most effective.

> > > > >

> > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > > > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

> > sincerity

> > > > and

> > > > > > humility.

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Santhosh

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > _____

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

> > > Behalf

> > > > Of Vidya

> > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

> considered

> > as

> > > > > > Combust ?

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Members,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

> fasting

> > do

> > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is

> > > > fairly

> > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts

> its

> > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what

> we

> > > had

> > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like

> > when

> > > I

> > > > go

> > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any

> > of

> > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> > > > millions

> > > > > of

> > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

> mankind

> > is

> > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to

> > > waste.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Vidya

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com

> > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date:

> > > > 12/09/09

> > > > > > 01:24:00

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> > > > >

> > > > >

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aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele.

 

 

 

, Girish menon <horamag

wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji

> Can you please tell which forum is it

> Regards

> Girish

>

> --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

Combust ?

>

> Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM

>

 

>

>

>

Thank You,

>

>

>

> We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and

have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not

in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that

man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling

till now, which is why we see less of action here.

>

>

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ .>

wrote:

>

> >

>

> > My Dear Friend,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I am 100% with you on this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Regards]

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Santhosh

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > _____

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

>

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

>

> > Combust ?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Sir,

>

> >

>

> > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

>

> >

>

> > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But

>

> > otherwise be honest.

>

> >

>

> > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

>

> >

>

> > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you

>

> > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?

>

> > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

>

> >

>

> > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

>

> >

>

> > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

>

> > >

>

> > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Regards

>

> > >

>

> > > Santhosh

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > _____

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com

>

> > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

>

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com

>

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

>

> > > Combust ?

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

>

> > >

>

> > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

>

> > >

>

> > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms

>

> > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to

>

> > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their

>

> > wife

>

> > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K

>

> > and

>

> > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me

>

> > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of

>

> > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

>

> > >

>

> > > Cheers,

>

> > > Bhaskar.

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

>

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Regards

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Santhosh

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > _____

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

Behalf

>

> > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

>

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

>

> > > > Combust ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask

>

> > > my

>

> > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I

>

> > am

>

> > > > not doing, so I know nothing.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Cheers,

>

> > > > Bhaskar.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

>

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > _____

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

>

> > Behalf

>

> > > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

>

> > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Dear Santosh ji,

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

>

> > > > problem

>

> > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

>

> > the

>

> > > > lord

>

> > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full

>

> > > in

>

> > > > > comparison./ /

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that

>

> > > (1)God

>

> > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in

>

> > > front

>

> > > > of

>

> > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not

>

> > > care

>

> > > > > for what people think of him.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

>

> > > recitations,

>

> > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

>

> > > Talking

>

> > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime

>

> > of

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > best wishes,

>

> > > > > Bhaskar.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

>

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian

>

> > > church

>

> > > > > or

>

> > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely

>

> > > > > > differentiate between the place.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or

>

> > > > > stotras

>

> > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and

>

> > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on

>

> > > > that

>

> > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not

>

> > moderated

>

> > > > > now)

>

> > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

>

> > > problem

>

> > > > > and

>

> > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the

>

> > > lord

>

> > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

>

> > full

>

> > > > in

>

> > > > > > comparison.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

>

> > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when

>

> > it

>

> > > > is

>

> > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and

>

> > > when

>

> > > > > you

>

> > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

>

> > > > Agarbathis

>

> > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core

>

> > > > > prayer

>

> > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration

>

> > > > from

>

> > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

>

> > > > emotion.

>

> > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a

>

> > > > higher

>

> > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your

>

> > > > heart

>

> > > > > > at the end of the rituals.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level

>

> > of

>

> > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer

>

> > > > > itself.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Regards

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Santhosh

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > _____

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

>

> > > Behalf

>

> > > > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

>

> > as

>

> > > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > How must one pray to God ?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently

>

> > > or

>

> > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate

>

> > > > forsm

>

> > > > > of

>

> > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

>

> > > > agarbatti

>

> > > > > > or anything else?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Which is most effective.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

>

> > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

>

> > > sincerity

>

> > > > > and

>

> > > > > > > humility.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Regards

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Santhosh

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > _____

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com]

On

>

> > > > Behalf

>

> > > > > Of Vidya

>

> > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

>

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

>

> > considered

>

> > > as

>

> > > > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Dear Members,

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

>

> > fasting

>

> > > do

>

> > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is

>

> > > > > fairly

>

> > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts

>

> > its

>

> > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what

>

> > we

>

> > > > had

>

> > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like

>

> > > when

>

> > > > I

>

> > > > > go

>

> > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any

>

> > > of

>

> > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

>

> > > > > millions

>

> > > > > > of

>

> > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

>

> > mankind

>

> > > is

>

> > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to

>

> > > > waste.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Vidya

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

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[Guest guest]

Don’t worry, we both will remain

here, wont we girish?

 

I think it is something to do with

uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti?

 

I wonder what they would gain by

establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about

some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested

to join that group.

 

So you tick to 4 RP

Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon

sign

Am I right?

 

Can you please expand LSRD?

 

Regards

 

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

3:10 PM

 

Subject:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan

par kya karoonga akele.

 

,

Girish menon <horamag wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji

> Can you please tell which forum is it

> Regards

> Girish

>

> --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as Combust ?

>

> Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Thank You,

>

>

>

> We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and

have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not

in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that

man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling

till now, which is why we see less of action here.

>

>

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh "

<santhosh@ .> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > My Dear Friend,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I am 100% with you on this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Regards]

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Santhosh

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > _____

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf

Of Bhaskar

>

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

>

> > Combust ?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Sir,

>

> >

>

> > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

>

> >

>

> > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may

matter. But

>

> > otherwise be honest.

>

> >

>

> > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

>

> >

>

> > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if

you

>

> > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent

preferences ?

>

> > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but

serious).

>

> >

>

> > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

>

> >

>

> > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@>

wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

>

> > >

>

> > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Regards

>

> > >

>

> > > Santhosh

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > _____

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com

>

> > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

>

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com

>

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

>

> > > Combust ?

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

>

> > >

>

> > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

>

> > >

>

> > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level

or in terms

>

> > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and

from lady to

>

> > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per

month, their

>

> > wife

>

> > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even

Rs.50K

>

> > and

>

> > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now

dont get me

>

> > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just

informing of

>

> > > what could happen in different home with different types of

ladies.

>

> > >

>

> > > Cheers,

>

> > > Bhaskar.

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com,

>

> > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well

welll…

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Regards

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Santhosh

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > _____

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com

>

> > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com] On Behalf

>

> > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

>

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com

>

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

>

> > > > Combust ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share

their views. Ask

>

> > > my

>

> > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a

time waster. "

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning

good money " which I

>

> > am

>

> > > > not doing, so I know nothing.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Cheers,

>

> > > > Bhaskar.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com,

>

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > _____

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com

>

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com] On

>

> > Behalf

>

> > > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com

>

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to

be considered as

>

> > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Dear Santosh ji,

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and

concentrate on our

>

> > > > problem

>

> > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way

(don't suggest to

>

> > the

>

> > > > lord

>

> > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be

more power full

>

> > > in

>

> > > > > comparison./ /

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a

prayer, " Talking with God " .

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed

that faith that

>

> > > (1)God

>

> > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a

person sitting in

>

> > > front

>

> > > > of

>

> > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks

with God does not

>

> > > care

>

> > > > > for what people think of him.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras,

Stotras,

>

> > > recitations,

>

> > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in

ones Life, but

>

> > > Talking

>

> > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk

with Him anytime

>

> > of

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is

feeling alone.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > best wishes,

>

> > > > > Bhaskar.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com,

>

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a

prayer in a X'tian

>

> > > church

>

> > > > > or

>

> > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power

doesn't definitely

>

> > > > > > differentiate between the place.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use

mantras or tantras or

>

> > > > > stotras

>

> > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the

bottom of the heart.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the

mantras mechanically and

>

> > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any

negative remark on

>

> > > > that

>

> > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially

since I am not

>

> > moderated

>

> > > > > now)

>

> > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and

concentrate on our

>

> > > problem

>

> > > > > and

>

> > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way

(don't suggest to the

>

> > > lord

>

> > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer

can be more power

>

> > full

>

> > > > in

>

> > > > > > comparison.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is

loud, I feel the

>

> > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as

intensive as when

>

> > it

>

> > > > is

>

> > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper

into your heart and

>

> > > when

>

> > > > > you

>

> > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible,

with lots of

>

> > > > Agarbathis

>

> > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be

effective if the core

>

> > > > > prayer

>

> > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion

and concentration.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a

level of concentration

>

> > > > from

>

> > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart

and with lots of

>

> > > > emotion.

>

> > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will

be very effective.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes

everybody present to a

>

> > > > higher

>

> > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to

communicate from your

>

> > > > heart

>

> > > > > > at the end of the rituals.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to

enter into a level

>

> > of

>

> > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and

mantras being the prayer

>

> > > > > itself.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Regards

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Santhosh

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > _____

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com] On

>

> > > Behalf

>

> > > > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is

Mercury to be considered

>

> > as

>

> > > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > How must one pray to God ?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to

be recited silently

>

> > > or

>

> > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual

worship, elaborate

>

> > > > forsm

>

> > > > > of

>

> > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or

just lighting an

>

> > > > agarbatti

>

> > > > > > or anything else?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Which is most effective.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com,

>

> > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is

done with utmost

>

> > > sincerity

>

> > > > > and

>

> > > > > > > humility.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Regards

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Santhosh

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > _____

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com] On

>

> > > > Behalf

>

> > > > > Of Vidya

>

> > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

>

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is

Mercury to be

>

> > considered

>

> > > as

>

> > > > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Dear Members,

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like

prayers, puja,

>

> > fasting

>

> > > do

>

> > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete

sincerity..Plus it is

>

> > > > > fairly

>

> > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is

lacking, or we doubts

>

> > its

>

> > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some

results. It may not be what

>

> > we

>

> > > > had

>

> > > > > > > asked for but something good is always

rewarded..It is just like

>

> > > when

>

> > > > I

>

> > > > > go

>

> > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know

the meaning behind any

>

> > > of

>

> > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by

doing it. You can see

>

> > > > > millions

>

> > > > > > of

>

> > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/

place of worship so

>

> > mankind

>

> > > is

>

> > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human

effort is ever gone to

>

> > > > waste.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Vidya

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

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Saath jiyenge saath marenge--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote:Santhosh <santhoshRE: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:45 AM

 

 

 

 

Don’t worry, we both will remain

here, wont we girish? I think it is something to do with

uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti? I wonder what they would gain by

establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about

some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested

to join that group. So you tick to 4 RP Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon

sign Am I right? Can you please expand LSRD? Regards Santhosh

 

 

 

ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

3:10 PM

ancient_indian_ astrology

Subject:

[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan

par kya karoonga akele.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology,

Girish menon <horamag > wrote:

>

> Dear Bhaskar ji

> Can you please tell which forum is it

> Regards

> Girish

>

> --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:

>

> Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...>

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as Combust ?

> ancient_indian_ astrology

> Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Â

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Thank You,

>

>

>

> We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and

have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not

in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that

man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling

till now, which is why we see less of action here.

>

>

>

> regards/Bhaskar.

>

>

>

>

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh"

<santhosh@ .> wrote:

>

> >

>

> > My Dear Friend,

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > I am 100% with you on this.

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Regards]

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Santhosh

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > _____

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf

Of Bhaskar

>

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

>

> > ancient_indian_ astrology

>

> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

>

> > Combust ?

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> >

>

> > Sir,

>

> >

>

> > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

>

> >

>

> > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may

matter. But

>

> > otherwise be honest.

>

> >

>

> > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

>

> >

>

> > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if

you

>

> > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent

preferences ?

>

> > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but

serious).

>

> >

>

> > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

>

> >

>

> > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> >

>

> > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com, "Santhosh" <santhosh@>

wrote:

>

> > >

>

> > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

>

> > >

>

> > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Regards

>

> > >

>

> > > Santhosh

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > _____

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com

>

> > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

>

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > astrology@grou ps.com

>

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

>

> > > Combust ?

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > >

>

> > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

>

> > >

>

> > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

>

> > >

>

> > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level

or in terms

>

> > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and

from lady to

>

> > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per

month, their

>

> > wife

>

> > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even

Rs.50K

>

> > and

>

> > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now

dont get me

>

> > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just

informing of

>

> > > what could happen in different home with different types of

ladies.

>

> > >

>

> > > Cheers,

>

> > > Bhaskar.

>

> > >

>

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com,

>

> > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > >

>

> > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well

welll…

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Regards

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Santhosh

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > _____

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com

>

> > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com] On Behalf

>

> > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

>

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com

>

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

>

> > > > Combust ?

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > >

>

> > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share

their views. Ask

>

> > > my

>

> > > > wife about me. She will say "he knows nothing. He is a

time waster. "

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Boss knowing in this material world means "Earning

good money" which I

>

> > am

>

> > > > not doing, so I know nothing.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > Cheers,

>

> > > > Bhaskar.

>

> > > >

>

> > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com,

>

> > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > _____

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com

>

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com] On

>

> > Behalf

>

> > > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com

>

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to

be considered as

>

> > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Dear Santosh ji,

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and

concentrate on our

>

> > > > problem

>

> > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way

(don't suggest to

>

> > the

>

> > > > lord

>

> > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be

more power full

>

> > > in

>

> > > > > comparison./ /

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a

prayer,"Talking with God".

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed

that faith that

>

> > > (1)God

>

> > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a

person sitting in

>

> > > front

>

> > > > of

>

> > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks

with God does not

>

> > > care

>

> > > > > for what people think of him.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras,

Stotras,

>

> > > recitations,

>

> > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in

ones Life, but

>

> > > Talking

>

> > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk

with Him anytime

>

> > of

>

> > > > the

>

> > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is

feeling alone.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > best wishes,

>

> > > > > Bhaskar.

>

> > > > >

>

> > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com,

>

> > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a

prayer in a X'tian

>

> > > church

>

> > > > > or

>

> > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power

doesn't definitely

>

> > > > > > differentiate between the place.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use

mantras or tantras or

>

> > > > > stotras

>

> > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the

bottom of the heart.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the

mantras mechanically and

>

> > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any

negative remark on

>

> > > > that

>

> > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially

since I am not

>

> > moderated

>

> > > > > now)

>

> > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and

concentrate on our

>

> > > problem

>

> > > > > and

>

> > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way

(don't suggest to the

>

> > > lord

>

> > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer

can be more power

>

> > full

>

> > > > in

>

> > > > > > comparison.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is

loud, I feel the

>

> > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as

intensive as when

>

> > it

>

> > > > is

>

> > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper

into your heart and

>

> > > when

>

> > > > > you

>

> > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible,

with lots of

>

> > > > Agarbathis

>

> > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be

effective if the core

>

> > > > > prayer

>

> > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion

and concentration.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a

level of concentration

>

> > > > from

>

> > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart

and with lots of

>

> > > > emotion.

>

> > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will

be very effective.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes

everybody present to a

>

> > > > higher

>

> > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to

communicate from your

>

> > > > heart

>

> > > > > > at the end of the rituals.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to

enter into a level

>

> > of

>

> > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and

mantras being the prayer

>

> > > > > itself.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Regards

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Santhosh

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > _____

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com] On

>

> > > Behalf

>

> > > > Of Bhaskar

>

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

>

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is

Mercury to be considered

>

> > as

>

> > > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > How must one pray to God ?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to

be recited silently

>

> > > or

>

> > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual

worship, elaborate

>

> > > > forsm

>

> > > > > of

>

> > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or

just lighting an

>

> > > > agarbatti

>

> > > > > > or anything else?

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > Which is most effective.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

>

> > > > > >

>

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com,

>

> > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is

done with utmost

>

> > > sincerity

>

> > > > > and

>

> > > > > > > humility.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Regards

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Santhosh

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > _____

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

>

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com] On

>

> > > > Behalf

>

> > > > > Of Vidya

>

> > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

>

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

>

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

>

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

>

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is

Mercury to be

>

> > considered

>

> > > as

>

> > > > > > > Combust ?

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Dear Members,

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like

prayers, puja,

>

> > fasting

>

> > > do

>

> > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete

sincerity..Plus it is

>

> > > > > fairly

>

> > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is

lacking, or we doubts

>

> > its

>

> > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some

results. It may not be what

>

> > we

>

> > > > had

>

> > > > > > > asked for but something good is always

rewarded..It is just like

>

> > > when

>

> > > > I

>

> > > > > go

>

> > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know

the meaning behind any

>

> > > of

>

> > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by

doing it. You can see

>

> > > > > millions

>

> > > > > > of

>

> > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/

place of worship so

>

> > mankind

>

> > > is

>

> > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human

effort is ever gone to

>

> > > > waste.

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > > Vidya

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

> > > > > > >

>

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// I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period.

I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand

much and so not interested to join that group.

//

 

For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for what

what others might think around me.

 

Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand

whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind.

 

I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive language

once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members nonsense

talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit vluntarily,

informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high expectations

from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the stick always

falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my back. (Remember

that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and Prans

matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ?

 

 

 

-- In , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:

>

> Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish?

>

>

>

> I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara

sankranti?

>

>

>

> I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period.

I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand

much and so not interested to join that group.

>

>

>

> So you tick to 4 RP

>

> Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign

>

> Am I right?

>

>

>

> Can you please expand LSRD?

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust

?

>

>

>

>

>

> aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology , Girish menon <horamag@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji

> > Can you please tell which forum is it

> > Regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

Combust ?

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology

> > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> >

> >

> > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and

have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not

in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that

man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling

till now, which is why we see less of action here.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ .>

wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > My Dear Friend,

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I am 100% with you on this.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards]

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Santhosh

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > _____

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> >

> > > Combust ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Sir,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter.

But

> >

> > > otherwise be honest.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you

> >

> > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?

> >

> > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

> >

> > >

> >

> > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Regards

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > _____

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com

> >

> > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

> >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com

> >

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> >

> > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in

terms

> >

> > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady

to

> >

> > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their

> >

> > > wife

> >

> > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K

> >

> > > and

> >

> > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get

me

> >

> > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing

of

> >

> > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Cheers,

> >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> >

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Regards

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > _____

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

Behalf

> >

> > > Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> >

> > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views.

Ask

> >

> > > > my

> >

> > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I

> >

> > > am

> >

> > > > > not doing, so I know nothing.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Cheers,

> >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> >

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > _____

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

> >

> > > Behalf

> >

> > > > Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> >

> > > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Dear Santosh ji,

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> >

> > > > > problem

> >

> > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > > lord

> >

> > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

full

> >

> > > > in

> >

> > > > > > comparison./ /

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that

> >

> > > > (1)God

> >

> > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in

> >

> > > > front

> >

> > > > > of

> >

> > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does

not

> >

> > > > care

> >

> > > > > > for what people think of him.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

> >

> > > > recitations,

> >

> > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

> >

> > > > Talking

> >

> > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime

> >

> > > of

> >

> > > > > the

> >

> > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> >

> > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian

> >

> > > > church

> >

> > > > > > or

> >

> > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't

definitely

> >

> > > > > > > differentiate between the place.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras

or

> >

> > > > > > stotras

> >

> > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically

and

> >

> > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark

on

> >

> > > > > that

> >

> > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not

> >

> > > moderated

> >

> > > > > > now)

> >

> > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> >

> > > > problem

> >

> > > > > > and

> >

> > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

the

> >

> > > > lord

> >

> > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

> >

> > > full

> >

> > > > > in

> >

> > > > > > > comparison.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the

> >

> > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as

when

> >

> > > it

> >

> > > > > is

> >

> > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart

and

> >

> > > > when

> >

> > > > > > you

> >

> > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> >

> > > > > Agarbathis

> >

> > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the

core

> >

> > > > > > prayer

> >

> > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of

concentration

> >

> > > > > from

> >

> > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> >

> > > > > emotion.

> >

> > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to

a

> >

> > > > > higher

> >

> > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from

your

> >

> > > > > heart

> >

> > > > > > > at the end of the rituals.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level

> >

> > > of

> >

> > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the

prayer

> >

> > > > > > itself.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Regards

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > _____

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com]

On

> >

> > > > Behalf

> >

> > > > > Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered

> >

> > > as

> >

> > > > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > How must one pray to God ?

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited

silently

> >

> > > > or

> >

> > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship,

elaborate

> >

> > > > > forsm

> >

> > > > > > of

> >

> > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> >

> > > > > agarbatti

> >

> > > > > > > or anything else?

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Which is most effective.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> >

> > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

> >

> > > > sincerity

> >

> > > > > > and

> >

> > > > > > > > humility.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > _____

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com]

On

> >

> > > > > Behalf

> >

> > > > > > Of Vidya

> >

> > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM

> >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

> >

> > > considered

> >

> > > > as

> >

> > > > > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

> >

> > > fasting

> >

> > > > do

> >

> > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it

is

> >

> > > > > > fairly

> >

> > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts

> >

> > > its

> >

> > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be

what

> >

> > > we

> >

> > > > > had

> >

> > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like

> >

> > > > when

> >

> > > > > I

> >

> > > > > > go

> >

> > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind

any

> >

> > > > of

> >

> > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see

> >

> > > > > > millions

> >

> > > > > > > of

> >

> > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

> >

> > > mankind

> >

> > > > is

> >

> > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone

to

> >

> > > > > waste.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Vidya

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

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> >

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My goodness,

Comparing it to that movie really gave me

the laughs..

 

I don’t think anybody around you would

have thought much about you laughing aloud. They probably have a certain view

about you and what you did would have perfectly fit into that viewJ

 

Regards

Santhosh

 

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

Wednesday, December 09, 2009

3:38 PM

 

Subject:

Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?

 

 

 

 

 

// I wonder what they would gain by establishing

something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year.

Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join

that group.

//

 

For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for what

what others might think around me.

 

Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand

whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind.

 

I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive language

once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members nonsense

talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit vluntarily,

informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high expectations

from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the stick always

falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my back. (Remember

that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and Prans

matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ?

 

-- In ,

" Santhosh " <santhosh wrote:

>

> Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish?

>

>

>

> I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara

sankranti?

>

>

>

> I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early

period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too

didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group.

>

>

>

> So you tick to 4 RP

>

> Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign

>

> Am I right?

>

>

>

> Can you please expand LSRD?

>

>

>

> Regards

>

>

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

 

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as Combust ?

>

>

>

>

>

> aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga

akele.

>

> ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology ,

Girish menon <horamag@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Bhaskar ji

> > Can you please tell which forum is it

> > Regards

> > Girish

> >

> > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> >

> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as Combust ?

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology

> > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Â

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Thank You,

> >

> >

> >

> > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the

important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another

forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their

discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been

able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be

and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here.

> >

> >

> >

> > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ancient_indian_ astrology,

" Santhosh " <santhosh@ .> wrote:

> >

> > >

> >

> > > My Dear Friend,

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I am 100% with you on this.

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Regards]

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Santhosh

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > _____

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On

Behalf Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> >

> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> >

> > > Combust ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Sir,

> >

> > >

> >

> > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may

matter. But

> >

> > > otherwise be honest.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of

above ?

> >

> > >

> >

> > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none

if you

> >

> > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent

preferences ?

> >

> > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but

serious).

> >

> > >

> >

> > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > >

> >

> > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh "

<santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Regards

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > _____

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com

> >

> > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

> >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> >

> > > astrology@grou ps.com

> >

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> >

> > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort

level or in terms

> >

> > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house

and from lady to

> >

> > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per

month, their

> >

> > > wife

> >

> > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates

even Rs.50K

> >

> > > and

> >

> > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade.

Now dont get me

> >

> > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses.

just informing of

> >

> > > > what could happen in different home with different types of

ladies.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > Cheers,

> >

> > > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > >

> >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com,

> >

> > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well

welll…

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Regards

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > _____

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com] On Behalf

> >

> > > Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_

indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to

be considered as

> >

> > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others

share their views. Ask

> >

> > > > my

> >

> > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He

is a time waster. "

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means

" Earning good money " which I

> >

> > > am

> >

> > > > > not doing, so I know nothing.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > Cheers,

> >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > > >

> >

> > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40.

com> ps.com,

> >

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > _____

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com] On

> >

> > > Behalf

> >

> > > > Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is

Mercury to be considered as

> >

> > > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Dear Santosh ji,

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and

concentrate on our

> >

> > > > > problem

> >

> > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way

(don't suggest to

> >

> > > the

> >

> > > > > lord

> >

> > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer

can be more power full

> >

> > > > in

> >

> > > > > > comparison./ /

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a

prayer, " Talking with God " .

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already

formed that faith that

> >

> > > > (1)God

> >

> > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a

person sitting in

> >

> > > > front

> >

> > > > > of

> >

> > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who

talks with God does not

> >

> > > > care

> >

> > > > > > for what people think of him.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required.

Mantras, Stotras,

> >

> > > > recitations,

> >

> > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline

in ones Life, but

> >

> > > > Talking

> >

> > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can

talk with Him anytime

> >

> > > of

> >

> > > > > the

> >

> > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one

is feeling alone.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > best wishes,

> >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> >

> > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com,

> >

> > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be

a prayer in a X'tian

> >

> > > > church

> >

> > > > > > or

> >

> > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine

power doesn't definitely

> >

> > > > > > > differentiate between the place.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you

use mantras or tantras or

> >

> > > > > > stotras

> >

> > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the

bottom of the heart.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the

mantras mechanically and

> >

> > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without

making any negative remark on

> >

> > > > > that

> >

> > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone

(especially since I am not

> >

> > > moderated

> >

> > > > > > now)

> >

> > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes

and concentrate on our

> >

> > > > problem

> >

> > > > > > and

> >

> > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible

way (don't suggest to the

> >

> > > > lord

> >

> > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such

prayer can be more power

> >

> > > full

> >

> > > > > in

> >

> > > > > > > comparison.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when

it is loud, I feel the

> >

> > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not

be as intensive as when

> >

> > > it

> >

> > > > > is

> >

> > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go

deeper into your heart and

> >

> > > > when

> >

> > > > > > you

> >

> > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as

possible, with lots of

> >

> > > > > Agarbathis

> >

> > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not

be effective if the core

> >

> > > > > > prayer

> >

> > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of

emotion and concentration.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to

a level of concentration

> >

> > > > > from

> >

> > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your

heart and with lots of

> >

> > > > > emotion.

> >

> > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting

will be very effective.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes

everybody present to a

> >

> > > > > higher

> >

> > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy

to communicate from your

> >

> > > > > heart

> >

> > > > > > > at the end of the rituals.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means

to enter into a level

> >

> > > of

> >

> > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and

mantras being the prayer

> >

> > > > > > itself.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Regards

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > _____

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com] On

> >

> > > > Behalf

> >

> > > > > Of Bhaskar

> >

> > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

> >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is

Mercury to be considered

> >

> > > as

> >

> > > > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > How must one pray to God ?

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited,

mantras to be recited silently

> >

> > > > or

> >

> > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras,

ritual worship, elaborate

> >

> > > > > forsm

> >

> > > > > > of

> >

> > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder,

or just lighting an

> >

> > > > > agarbatti

> >

> > > > > > > or anything else?

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > Which is most effective.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> >

> > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com,

> >

> > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it

is done with utmost

> >

> > > > sincerity

> >

> > > > > > and

> >

> > > > > > > > humility.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Regards

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Santhosh

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > _____

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> >

> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com] On

> >

> > > > > Behalf

> >

> > > > > > Of Vidya

> >

> > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16

PM

> >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%

40. com> ps.com

> >

> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology]

Re: Is Mercury to be

> >

> > > considered

> >

> > > > as

> >

> > > > > > > > Combust ?

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Dear Members,

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies

like prayers, puja,

> >

> > > fasting

> >

> > > > do

> >

> > > > > > > > give good results if performed with

complete sincerity..Plus it is

> >

> > > > > > fairly

> >

> > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity

is lacking, or we doubts

> >

> > > its

> >

> > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some

results. It may not be what

> >

> > > we

> >

> > > > > had

> >

> > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always

rewarded..It is just like

> >

> > > > when

> >

> > > > > I

> >

> > > > > > go

> >

> > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't

know the meaning behind any

> >

> > > > of

> >

> > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness

by doing it. You can see

> >

> > > > > > millions

> >

> > > > > > > of

> >

> > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/

place of worship so

> >

> > > mankind

> >

> > > > is

> >

> > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no

human effort is ever gone to

> >

> > > > > waste.

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > > Vidya

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

> > > > > > > >

> >

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Bhaskar ji,//Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand

whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind.//yes i second you in this.The tragedy of mankind is majority live/think either past or future and miss the PRESENT FROM GOD.....and seek astrologers!!!....-gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> // I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group.> // > > For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for what what others might think around me. > > Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind.> > I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive language once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members nonsense talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit vluntarily, informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high expectations from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the stick always falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my back. (Remember that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and Prans matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ?> > > > -- In , "Santhosh" santhosh@ wrote:> >> > Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish?> > > > > > > > I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti?> > > > > > > > I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group.> > > > > > > > So you tick to 4 RP> > > > Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign> > > > Am I right?> > > > > > > > Can you please expand LSRD?> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM> > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele.> > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , Girish menon <horamag@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji> > > Can you please tell which forum is it> > > Regards> > > Girish> > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?> > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@ .> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My Dear Friend,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But> > > > > > > otherwise be honest.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you> > > > > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?> > > > > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com> > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms> > > > > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to> > > > > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their> > > > > > > wife> > > > > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me> > > > > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of> > > > > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf> > > > > > > Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask> > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > wife about me. She will say "he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means "Earning good money" which I> > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On> > > > > > > Behalf> > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our> > > > > > > > > problem> > > > > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > comparison./ /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer,"Talking with God". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that> > > > > > > > (1)God> > > > > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in> > > > > > > > front> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not> > > > > > > > care> > > > > > > > > > for what people think of him.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,> > > > > > > > recitations,> > > > > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but> > > > > > > > Talking> > > > > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian> > > > > > > > church> > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely> > > > > > > > > > > differentiate between the place.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or> > > > > > > > > > stotras> > > > > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and> > > > > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on> > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not> > > > > > > moderated> > > > > > > > > > now)> > > > > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our> > > > > > > > problem> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the> > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power> > > > > > > full> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > comparison.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the> > > > > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and> > > > > > > > when> > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of> > > > > > > > > Agarbathis> > > > > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core> > > > > > > > > > prayer> > > > > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration> > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of> > > > > > > > > emotion.> > > > > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a> > > > > > > > > higher> > > > > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your> > > > > > > > > heart> > > > > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer> > > > > > > > > > itself.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On> > > > > > > > Behalf> > > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate> > > > > > > > > forsm> > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an> > > > > > > > > agarbatti> > > > > > > > > > > or anything else?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost> > > > > > > > sincerity> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > humility.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On> > > > > > > > > Behalf> > > > > > > > > > Of Vidya> > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be> > > > > > > considered> > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,> > > > > > > fasting> > > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is> > > > > > > > > > fairly> > > > > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts> > > > > > > its> > > > > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. 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kya kahna chahte ho Bhai ??? Kaise kaise dil todne waale majaak karte ho ji aap

..

 

, " Santhosh " <santhosh

wrote:

>

> My goodness,

>

> Comparing it to that movie really gave me the laughs..

>

>

>

> I don’t think anybody around you would have thought much about you laughing

aloud. They probably have a certain view about you and what you did would have

perfectly fit into that view:-)

>

>

>

> Regards

>

> Santhosh

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:38 PM

>

> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust

?

>

>

>

>

>

> // I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early

period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t

understand much and so not interested to join that group.

> //

>

> For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for

what what others might think around me.

>

> Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand

whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind.

>

> I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive

language once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members

nonsense talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit

vluntarily, informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high

expectations from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the

stick always falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my

back. (Remember that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and

Prans matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ?

>

> -- In ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> >

> > Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish?

> >

> >

> >

> > I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara

sankranti?

> >

> >

> >

> > I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early

period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t

understand much and so not interested to join that group.

> >

> >

> >

> > So you tick to 4 RP

> >

> > Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign

> >

> > Am I right?

> >

> >

> >

> > Can you please expand LSRD?

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards

> >

> >

> >

> > Santhosh

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology [ancient_indian_

<%40> astrology ]

On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology

> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

Combust ?

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele.

> >

> > ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, Girish menon

<horamag@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Bhaskar ji

> > > Can you please tell which forum is it

> > > Regards

> > > Girish

> > >

> > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:

> > >

> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>

> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

Combust ?

> > > ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com

> > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Â

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important

members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and

have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not

in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that

man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling

till now, which is why we see less of action here.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@

..> wrote:

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > My Dear Friend,

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > I am 100% with you on this.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Regards]

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Santhosh

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > _____

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of

Bhaskar

> > >

> > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM

> > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology

> > >

> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as

> > >

> > > > Combust ?

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Sir,

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter.

But

> > >

> > > > otherwise be honest.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you

> > >

> > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences

?

> > >

> > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious).

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > >

> > >

> > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> > >

> > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Regards

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Santhosh

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > _____

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> > >

> > > > astrology@grou ps.com

> > >

> > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> > >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar

> > >

> > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM

> > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40.

com>

> > >

> > > > astrology@grou ps.com

> > >

> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> > >

> > > > > Combust ?

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in

terms

> > >

> > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady

to

> > >

> > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month,

their

> > >

> > > > wife

> > >

> > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even

Rs.50K

> > >

> > > > and

> > >

> > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get

me

> > >

> > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing

of

> > >

> > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > > >

> > >

> > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> > >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> > >

> > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well

welll…

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Santhosh

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > _____

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > >

> > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> > >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On

Behalf

> > >

> > > > Of Bhaskar

> > >

> > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM

> > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology

%40. com>

> > >

> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > >

> > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered

as

> > >

> > > > > > Combust ?

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views.

Ask

> > >

> > > > > my

> > >

> > > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster.

"

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which

I

> > >

> > > > am

> > >

> > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > Cheers,

> > >

> > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> > >

> > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > _____

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > >

> > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_

> > >

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com]

On

> > >

> > > > Behalf

> > >

> > > > > Of Bhaskar

> > >

> > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM

> > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > >

> > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com

> > >

> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

considered as

> > >

> > > > > > > Combust ?

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji,

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on

our

> > >

> > > > > > problem

> > >

> > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest

to

> > >

> > > > the

> > >

> > > > > > lord

> > >

> > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power

full

> > >

> > > > > in

> > >

> > > > > > > comparison./ /

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " .

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith

that

> > >

> > > > > (1)God

> > >

> > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting

in

> > >

> > > > > front

> > >

> > > > > > of

> > >

> > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does

not

> > >

> > > > > care

> > >

> > > > > > > for what people think of him.

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,

> > >

> > > > > recitations,

> > >

> > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but

> > >

> > > > > Talking

> > >

> > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him

anytime

> > >

> > > > of

> > >

> > > > > > the

> > >

> > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling

alone.

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > best wishes,

> > >

> > > > > > > Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > >

> > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

> > >

> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,

> > >

> > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a

X'tian

> > >

> > > > > church

> > >

> > > > > > > or

> > >

> > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't

definitely

> > >

> > > > > > > > differentiate between the place.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or

tantras or

> > >

> > > > > > > stotras

> > >

> > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the

heart.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically

and

> > >

> > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative

remark on

> > >

> > > > > > that

> > >

> > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not

> > >

> > > > moderated

> > >

> > > > > > > now)

> > >

> > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our

> > >

> > > > > problem

> > >

> > > > > > > and

> > >

> > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to

the

> > >

> > > > > lord

> > >

> > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more

power

> > >

> > > > full

> > >

> > > > > > in

> > >

> > > > > > > > comparison.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel

the

> > >

> > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as

when

> > >

> > > > it

> > >

> > > > > > is

> > >

> > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart

and

> > >

> > > > > when

> > >

> > > > > > > you

> > >

> > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of

> > >

> > > > > > Agarbathis

> > >

> > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the

core

> > >

> > > > > > > prayer

> > >

> > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and

concentration.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of

concentration

> > >

> > > > > > from

> > >

> > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of

> > >

> > > > > > emotion.

> > >

> > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very

effective.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present

to a

> > >

> > > > > > higher

> > >

> > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from

your

> > >

> > > > > > heart

> > >

> > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a

level

> > >

> > > > of

> > >

> > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the

prayer

> > >

> > > > > > > itself.

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> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

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On

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> > > > > Behalf

> > >

> > > > > > Of Bhaskar

> > >

> > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM

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> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

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> > >

> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be

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> > >

> > > > as

> > >

> > > > > > > > Combust ?

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> > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ?

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited

silently

> > >

> > > > > or

> > >

> > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship,

elaborate

> > >

> > > > > > forsm

> > >

> > > > > > > of

> > >

> > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an

> > >

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> > >

> > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > Which is most effective.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.

> > >

> > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_

> > >

> > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>

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> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com>

ps.com,

> > >

> > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote:

> > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji

> > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost

> > >

> > > > > sincerity

> > >

> > > > > > > and

> > >

> > > > > > > > > humility.

> > >

> > > > > > > > >

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> > > > > > > > > Dear Members,

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> > > > > > > > >

> > >

> > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,

> > >

> > > > fasting

> > >

> > > > > do

> > >

> > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus

it is

> > >

> > > > > > > fairly

> > >

> > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.

> > >

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> > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we

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> > >

> > > > > when

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> > >

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> > >

> > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind

any

> > >

> > > > > of

> > >

> > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can

see

> > >

> > > > > > > millions

> > >

> > > > > > > > of

> > >

> > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so

> > >

> > > > mankind

> > >

> > > > > is

> > >

> > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone

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> > >

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