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  1. Are you saying that Sahajiyas are like TV Christian evangelists.. They pretend to be filled with Christ but all they are is someone seeking fame and fortune.. Acting on the guise as a Bonafide Christians.. He pretends to be full of knowledge and wisdom.. Even can quote scripture like a bonafide preacher but it's all an act..

     

    I'm confused because I see 2 diffrent arguements as to what a Sahajiya is.

    The first being the Sahajiya Vaisnava.. Who are pretty much identical to Gaudiya Vaisnava but they disagree when it comes to sex.. Sahajiya accepts Tantric views of sex.

     

    Where as the other Sahajiya is just someone who is a Heretic.. Who hides behind a guise.. Who pretends to know but really doesnt know much about Krishna or Is ignorant of Krishna but Teaches his ignorance to others.


  2. Your a Sahajiya Guru? How much experience do you have in the Sahajiya Vaishnava? Where does Krishna fit in? Do you know of Sahajiya Vaishnava Gurus?

     

     

     

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    "Why are the Sahajiyas so looked down upon? What texts do they accept and not accept? What philosophical understandings they have that is different than Gaudiyas??"

     

    Namaste. Om Tat Sat.

     

    I am a guru in the sahajiyana. I have been doing classical sadhana in this tradition [ set of traditions ] since taking high-level Buddhist and non-Buddhist initiations in 1980.

     

    Sahajiyana focuses on inner aspects of yoga. It is not ruled so much by conventions and dictates. For example, there is no caste distinction, no sense of "my countryman vs. foreigner", or male in contrast to female.

     

    Sahajiya practice focuses on whole person yoga, and wholeness and integration of yoga into all aspects on one's life. Thus, one could easily be a householder and a sahajiya, or sahajiya-adept, if one knew how to integrate yoga with the householder's life.

     

    Not many tantric Buddhists in the West know it, but the inner and most central aspects of tantric Buddhism really are Sahajiyana. Two of the most important Indian sources of Indo-Tibetan Buddhism are the Mahasiddha Tilopa and the Mahasiddha Saraha. These two yogis truly embodied - and realized - the Sahajiya type of practice, up to full Buddhahood.

     

    There are English language publications of the dohas of Saraha, and the yogas of Tilopa's lineage passed down through Naropa ( Nadapada ) to the Tibetan Pandit Marpa, to Milarepa, and down through the Karma Kagyu lineage of "Tibetan Buddhism", among other parallel lineages.

     

    In Buddhatantra, Sahajayana is directly linked to the principle of "Buddhahood Already Present" in each and all. In the Karma Kagyu school, this teaching is called Mahamudra, the Great Seal [ of Primordial Pure Being ].

     

    Sahajayana in Buddhist tantra and in Mahamudra is strongly linked to kundalini yoga and "the Six Yogas of Naropa", and the tantra of the deity Cakrasamvara, which passed down from Tilopa and Naropa to the Indo-Tibetan lineages.

     

    There are other, alternative formulations and lineages of Sahajayana in Buddhatantra. The main alternative is Atiyoga, known in Tibet as "Dzogchen". This is associated with Mahaguru Padmasambhava and the Tibetan school known as Nyingma, or the Earlier Translation.

     

    Both the Mahamudra of the Karma Kagyu and the Atiyoga of Padmasambhava are taught around the world. They are taught to four million Chinese in one Indo-Tibetan-Chinese lineage. Mahamudra / mantrayana has been taught in Japan since about 800 Common Era.

     

    All Buddhist tantric lineages overlap the Hindu lineages to some degree, greater or smaller. In ancient India at a certain time there was great overlap between Hindu and Buddhist lineages. Various specifically Hindu deities are found in all tantric Buddhist schools of Nepal, Tibet, China, and Japan.

     

    In my own case, the first inner connection is the devi Tara, who is equally Hindu and Buddhist.

     

    Here's something to think about. Westerners typically think "yoga" is a form of physical exercise only. But actually, most yoga is linked to mantra and pranayama and kundalini, and a more integrative sadhana parampara.

     

    This means that most of the classical and comprehensive teaching on yoga given in the West is actually being done by Tibetan lamas, and most of that leads pretty directly to the Mahasiddha tradition of pre-Islamic Buddhist India, and Hindu-Buddhist India.

     

    It is laughable and foolish to think that the Islamists, or Hebrews etc. are in any way connected to Sahajayana. Sahajayana is a Sanskrit-based set of lineages and practices only.

     

    Buddhist Sahajayana completely rejects the philosophy and culture of Islam and Judaism, just as Islam and Judaism completely reject all of the Buddhadharma. There is no overlap whatsoever! The basis for all Sahajayana philosophy in Buddhism is the Mahayana philosophy, which *completely* rejects caste, the "uniqueness" of a "chosen people", a "unique savior", and "a final testament of a creator god".

     

    Sarva mangalam! Siddhi rastu!

     

    Tara Devi


  3. In my research so far there are 2 types of Sahajiya.. One is the Sahajiya Vaishnava.. which is a sect (Or also known as a Cult) The other type of Sahajiya is Certain Behaivoirs that are considered Heresy.. Things like Laughing in Ecstasy. Dancing in Ecstasy.. This kind of Sahajiya reminds me of the Pentacostal Churches in Christianity


  4. I have been researching Gaudiya Vaishnavas and in my search I have found Sahajiya.. I cant find much on the subject but I have found that they arent well liked.

    Why are the Sahajiyas so looked down upon? What texts do they accept and not accept? What philosophical understandings they have that is different than Gaudiyas??


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    There is no need of getting panicked. As and when you ever happen to visit India especially Delhi, do come to my residence for two or three days for one to two hour session for learning nature based meditation from me. If you practice the same every morning and evening daily for half an hour, you should get rid of the voices coming from your teacher. Once you get self-realized through the process of kundalini awakening, and also practice the same on a regular basis, no external force can harm you due to the protective arm of your teacher. Meditation is taught at my residence free of cost.

     

    Is it at all possible you could teach me thru eMail or something?


  6. There are a number of philosophical differences between Gaudiya Vaishnava theology and that of other Vaishnava groups, although from a general perspective their core beliefs are virtually identical. The main points of difference are:

    Krishna is seen as the original form of God, the source of Vishnu and not His avatar.

    This teaching - shared by Nimbarka and Vallabha sampradayas and opposed by Ramanuja and Madhva - is based most prominently on Bhagavata Purana 1.3.28 (krsnas tu bhagavan svayam), the most important Purana for Gaudiya Vaishnavas, and elaborated on by Jiva Gosvami (one of Six Gosvamis of Vrindavan) in his Krishna sandarbha.

    Sri Radha is the adi Shakti of Krishna, the source of all other shaktis including Lakshmi Devi and Durga Devi.

    Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is the latest incarnation of Krishna to descend in this yuga (age). (Kalki comes in the yuga sandhya at its end.)

    Gaudiya Vaishnava Theology is prominently expounded by Jiva Gosvami in his Sat-sandarbhas, six elaborate treatises on various aspects of God. Other prominent Gaudiya Vaishnava theologians are his uncles, Rupa Gosvami and Sanatana Gosvami, Visvanatha Chakravarti and Baladeva Vidyabhushana, author of Govinda Bhashya, a famous commentary on Vedanta Sutra.

     

    This Article from Wikipedia helped me understand it better.


  7. Ok.. I'm trying to make sense of all this.. Krishna is an Incarnation of Vishnu but is the Supreme personality of the God Head.. Brahmans claim Brahma is the supreme.. Shiavism claims Shiva is the supreme. I do not even know the differences between these.. Morality and basic themes such as chant a mantra all seems pretty much the same thing just different words and different faces. I've been thinking about which sect is the best for me.. I decided to go with Krishna simply because it was Krishna who revealed himself to me and showed me compassion and love.. Not the other Gods..


  8. My former Buddhist Lama is still alive.. I converted to Hinduism and so now he is my former teacher.

     

    I had past life regression done and one of my lives around the 1800's was a Teenager who had Down Syndrome.. His Dad encouraged him into perverted acts with animals and other sick idea's. My past life was later Hung in front of an angry Mob because He molested small children (Not knowing it was wrong untill the day of his Hanging) So I agree with you somewhat. His Death imprinted a strong impression on my psyche.. So I know why I have voices condemning me for sexual urges that are not present.. It's the reaction in my subconscious mind of the Down Syndrome understanding of what brought him to death. So I hear the suffering cries of my past life. So if I even so much innocently looking at a child my past life interacts.

     

    What I cant figure out is why am I persecuted by the voices of spiritual leaders. I have been thinking about doing another regression but its so damn expensive.

     

    What I really need is how do I get rid of said sufferings.


  9. I can barely pull 3 rotations in 1 Hour.. I dont understand why the number of times is sooo important.. As long as your chaning.. I maybe only able to fit about 3 rotations but I still can chant for 2 hours.. Thats 2 Hours focusing on the Mantra.. As long as I'm focused during that time what difference does it make if I chant 6 rounds verses 16? Its still time spent getting closer to the Lord.

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