Maitreya

JRdd, sure, no need to ask.

didn't nemo end up at the bottom of the sea? ps peter, it is about time you added the third nyuck.

atma, Not sure what letter but mis-identification is the problem. Eternal servants of Krishna is our proper ID. We sure are in a strange predicament here.A dual life kinda.Trying to keep an outer life together while cultivating a proper understanding of who we are.Ain't easy. [This message has been edited by Maitreya (edited 09-06-2001).]

duplication of above.It's not my fault.I am a victim of BBS,bad brain syndrome. [This message has been edited by Maitreya (edited 09-06-2001).]

I hope she told them that their existence is justified because they are part of Krishna and that is what makes their existence spiritual.The state of their sex organs or lack thereof is irrelevant to their inherent spiritual constitution.That is true self esteem. In other words anal sex and cleaning the house. "Fluidthird sex",give me a break.Is there a translator for Madhu speak in the house? If you want to be compassionate and accept people for what they are, then accept them as part and parcel of the Supreme Lord. Anything less is an insult to any living being. Hare Krishna MC edited for proper quotation [This message has been edited by Maitreya (edited 09-06-2001).]

Is VNN having some tech problems or did it go bye bye?I hope not.

leyh, Please reread the post from Bhaktavasya.There is the mean spirited energy. Anyone else I would challenge to back it up but I have learned it is useless to get into it with her. Hare Krishna MC

Not sure le, it is a series called MSNBC Investigates. The rest of the show is valueless.

Inspire what?Worship?Yeah right,that's why I watch them too.

Looks great Krishnacandra.I am sure I will receive much pleasure from reading it this evening when I have more time. Hare Krishna MC

Looks great Krishnacandra.I am sure I will receive much pleasure from reading it this evening when I have more time. Hare Krishna MC

So Satyaraja just go sit on a stump somewhere and wait for Hari's mercy.Oh, and no fair taking any books with you to read.And no praying either.Also no sravana kiratanam smaranam vishnoh because those are limbs of sadhana. Just sit on your stump and wait. ps bring a thick pillow you may be there a while.

Keep them rolling in bro.

Gauracandra said:

Nice reference Peter.

Then there is this from The Teachings of Lord Caitanya: To these thirty-five items, another four can be added: (1) marking one’s body with sandalwood pulp to show that one is a Vaisnava, (2) painting one’s body with the holy names of the Lord, (3) covering one’s body with the remnants of the Deity covers, (4) accepting caranämrta, the water which washes the Deity. These four additional items make thirty-nine items for devotional service in all,... To be honest also one reason I have shyed away from permanent markings like tattoos is that you can be identified easily by govt.agencies. Call me paranoid, but I took movies like Logan's Run,Farenhiet 451 etc. and the ideas behind them seriously.My motto was always have an alias ready to go.

I know what you mean about name calling peter. Imagine people who agree with Srila Prabhupada's words being labeled as 'homophobic paranoids'. Is there no decency left?

Mark what ever you decide to do you will do.The thing is just don't pretend.Be honest with yourself. You are not alone in experiencing material dilemnas.Material life means confusion, lonliness etc.Everyone is going through some version of it.Your mind has some demands that are not dovetailable.Your homosex thing like my desire for promiscuous sex with no responsibility are simply outside the prescribed rules of conduct for executing proper sadhana-bhakti.We are both physicaly celibate and yet plagued still by the minds desires.Tough for us.We have to suffer the mess we made for ourselves.That is just how it goes.So we do what we can to try and move towards Krishna. Many years ago I was maintaining the rules and sadhana pretty well for a while,and then started working and living in Waikiki.I was selling jewelry on the beach and started falling down on a regular basis.I compounded this mistake by trying to pretend I was still keeping up a higher standard then I really was.My friends could sense something was up but I denied it.Women?What women?Not me.I just couldn't admit my failure to myself. Finnaly this one devotee friend looked me in the face and asked me a question.It was this:"Do you want to know the truthWell yes I said, of course"His answer:"Then stop lying". It was a real slap in the face, but the effect was good.Real friends just don't go along with your games, they will help you see past them. You must know homosex is unnatural.I am asking your intelligence and not your feelings.Stop lying to yourself. Any attempt to try and change Prabhupada's teachings on this matter will just be met with resistence.And people should understand that this resistence is not going away, it will only get stronger. Hare Krishna MC

Coolest thing just happened.I have the TV on tuned to MSNBC and they are doing now a story on tattoos. All of a sudden I heard a Kirtan coming from the TV and when I look it showed the inside of a temple with a kirtan going and then the picture went to a murti of Srila Prabhupada.Then to this devotee who has all these devotional tattoos.Showed a young bhaktin with some on her arm also.Three or four different bhaktas showing their Krishna body art.I think it was filmed in New York. This is a direct message from Supersoul telling me to go tattoo my full body just as atma suggested.No doubt about it.My life now has a mission. It was cool though.

She fiddled while Waco babies burned.

Full back Nrisimhadeva? Alright!Great minds think alike.Was that before or after he was chased by the mob? Tarun, why is fire not acceptable?It seems so clean.I know there must be authorized methods for Deities in these situations, I just have no idea what they are.

There are different degrees of lust Mark.Just because one is presently not having gross sex doesn't mean he isn't in lust. I experience it just being around a woman that is attractive even though I may never speak to her.I am also being tortured by this disease of lust.Lust can be very subtle.We are advised to never be alone with a woman even in dreams. Householder life is meant to work through that as jijaji said before.There is no example in any scripture I have read where Lord Caitanya approved homosex householders.What is being objected to is the concoction of homosex marriage,not you as a soul. JNdas has reminded us that real love devoid of lust is with Krishna then it is extended out to all others as His parts and parcels and has nothing to do with any designation of this material world. I appreciate very much your desire to control the senses.The mind is also a sense.Until it is controled[fixed on Krishna]it will only torment us in various ways. If you feel like a woman inside why not become attracted to the ultimate male?

...and so the speculation begins! The Great Homo Hunt is on! Why DO you continue to live in San Francisco anyway, MC? Better hunting grounds? No peter, I live in Berkeley.If someone continualy refers to his guru maharaja as the one granting this license then he should name him.There is a strong implication in that statement that it is parampara approved.Quotes have been offered from Srila Prahupada to the contrary. By the way does the phrase passive aggressive mean anything to you?

Well randOM let's see now, who else?Hmmmm...I know!Boy George!