Maitreya

Yes not just seeking.I had said extracted.It would have been more clear had I used the wordassimilated as it conveys better what I was trying to say. Shika in pocket.LOL.You are a funny one.How about with one of those rubber tips[like on play arrows] so it could be stuck back on at home and taken off in public?Just a thought. Thanks I'll try for that rememberance. MC [This message has been edited by Maitreya (edited 09-17-2001).]

Concerning that letter to a terrorist;I think we should let Ted Kaczynski[aka the Unibomber]mail it in his own special way.

I think Saddam started a war in Kuwait karthik_v.Also they have been allowed to sell enough oil to take care of basic human needs but somehow it doesn't seem to filter down from the top.Saddam gased the Kurdish population in Iraq.Was that also the fault of the US?I also find it interesting in your attempt to take the broad view,[which is the right approach I believe]you neglect to mention the innocent victims in Isreal who have died via these suicide bombers. Please explain how the US is responsible for lives lost in India. Tibet?Might be more fair to blame the Chinese. Sudan?Are you refering to Clinton's destroying that chemical plant?We do owe the world an apology for Clinton. I didn't vote for him but on behalf of my misguided countrymen,I apologize. By watching the Taliban and Osama we see they are religious fanatics to a far extreme. Given the chance what do you think they would have in plan for India? Hare Krishna

Letter to: Tripurari -- Bombay 16 January, 1975 75-01-16 Atlanta My dear Tripurari das, Please accept my blessings. I am in due receipt of your letters dated Jan. 1st and 5th, 1975 and have noted the contents. My general request is that you all distribute as many books as possible and at the same time be very careful in dealings with others so that they may not become irritated with us. Your book sale statistics are astounding. I am so much pleased. Please continue distributing such nice quantities and try to enthuse others more and more. You are sincere, so Krishna will give you all intelligence, strength and everything else you may need to distribute millions and millions of books. I have written letters to Ramesvara and Rupanuga in regards to the recent controversies about book distribution methods to be used by our men. You may refer to those letters if you like. Regarding the two boys you mentioned, they can receive initiation in Mayapur as long as they are recommended by the temple president or GBC. I hope this meets you in good health. Your ever well-wisher, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Svami ACBS/ps

At this time money was being collected in the name of feeding hungry children in India.No books were being sold just collecting.And the money wasn't being sparately accounted for and used for the promised purpose. It was used, I suppose for Temple maintenance,and imaginative and innovative minds saw that as OK.I even did it a few times but stopped when I learned of this letter. Letter to: Ramesvara -- Bombay 1 January, 1975 75-01-01 Los Angeles My dear Ramesvara, [snip] Whatever fund is collected for food distribution should be sent to India. Why is it not sent? The other funds coming from sales of books can be accounted for properly, so where is there any fraud? Sometimes a salesman can say something extraordinary in order to sell something, but that is not fraud. Just like they are selling this oil, saying that if you rub it on your bald head, hair will grow. Where is the case where a bald man's hair grew from this oil? But the government is not charging with fraud. Don't use these UNICEF cards, that will not be good. You can make ISKCON FOOD RELIEF cards. But the money collected using this card must be sent to India where we are actually feeding people. If we simply speak nicely to a person and try sincerely to get him to take the book he'll take it. Why should we adopt unfair means? We should not do anything which will create a bad impression or make us unpopular. People are after these books, they are hankering for them. We don't need to take cheating method. I never had to use any cheating method when I first began. I simply presented the real thing. Basically and practically speaking everything that is done sincerely for Krishna's satisfaction is perfect. But we have to be very very careful in our dealings with others so that they will not take the wrong view. Just like the gopis. They left their homes in the dead of night to go and meet this young boy Krishna for kissing and embracing. To the ordinary person, this is sinful, but to the devotee, it is worshipable and it is considered the highest form of devotion even by Lord Caitanya who was himself a very strict sannyasi. Therefore we are very careful not to discuss this rasa-lila in the presence of ordinary men because they will only misunderstand and commit offense. While dealing with the ordinary men, we must spread this movement in such a way that they will not misunderstand us and take offense. Try to sell as many of my books as possible to your best ability. I hope this meets you in good health. Your ever well-wisher, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami ACBS/ps

I believe one of the most mis-used saying of His Divine Grace was the "by hook or crook".It seems to me to be a big step from using one's intelligence and even aggressive salesmanship to perpetuating a fraud. This is from a letter to Rupanuga Jan 9 1975:

Bdas, I'm not sure exactly what you were pointing to, but I assume it was to change of dress. But then not all change of dress was acceptable.Not like hippies, but ordinary American gentlemen. Was this your point or did I miss it?

mr.dasji, I'm convinced it was Osama.Either way he is a good place to start. You know I am really surprised to see people in other lands offer their condolances and support to the US.I thought they all hated us over here.

leyh, Speaking for just myself, I find this to be the basic underlying principle of my life.Deep rooted resentment towards Krishna. I caught a strong glimpse of this within myself once in this 'waking state' and more or less had a nervous breakdown. Most of us are in a mixed state It is very confusing and troubling.Impossible to find solid internal footing at this level and the recognized contradictions are unnerving. We try to avoid these realizations in so many ways.Even sadhana practices can used as a clever way of hiding by the mind.Or is it by the soul, hiding in the mind? The conscious portion of our mind is very clever and deceitful at times.When the sub-conscious is more to the fore as it is in dreams,sometimes it displays before us important messages in the form of dream plays.Mostly its just nonsensical images. This one of yours was certainly very straight forward and I suspect humbling.We are at war within and now you have a clearer vision of whom you are contending with in this great battle. I've seen the enemy and the enemy is me. I believe a dream like the one you described, was really right from the Supersoul and should be accepted and meditated on with gratitude. Only my speculations of course. Hare Krishna, MC

2.Krishna Book

You need a bib for your keyboard.One with the letters and such printed in the proper order and size so you could still type.

That's right Suryaz,Krishna is calling you to His dance.

Didn't your momma tell you not to type with your mouth full. Careful don't let the honey and jam get into the keyboard.I can see it drippin'from here.

Some vibratory fequencies are exceptions. You always have a food response JR.

Nothin' gets past my tin foil jump suit, nothin'.

I just picked 21 out of the air. Pity the poor virgins no matter what the number.

Bdas, Perhaps you would include this post and any other comments you may have on the innovation thread. Where innovation and change may become deviation? Who is to say and institute such change etc. That was always close to the heart of this discussion.perhaps by removing the homo topic we could approach it in a new way. MC

The topic is innovation deviations changes etc.Bhaktyavasya.Do you have anything to add?

Letter to: Yadunandana -- Perth, Australia 14 May, 1975 75-05-14 Dallas My dear Yadunandan, Please accept my blessings. I have just been informed by my servant, Srutakirti, that the young children, under twelve, are not allowed to use their japa beads while chanting. This policy is not good. Why this change has been made? I never said they should not use their beads. That is our business. They must be taught how to respect their beads. How they can learn unless they use them? That is the trouble with you westerners, always changing. No changes should be made without first consulting with my GBC representative. So, the children should immediately be allowed to chant on their japa beads. I hope this meets you in good health. Your ever well-wisher, A. C. Bhaktivedanta Swami ACBS/sda

Thanks for the bon voyage stoneheart. JR,I guess true, but the juries still out.

Sorry.I am not that Maitreya.The devil just sent me to sully his name. I an not initiated and just took the name Maitreya Christian because I wanted to, and it reminded me of Krishna devotees.

I was thinking you are Gaursundar.

Reminds me of one of my favorite Prabhupada conversations.When Gaurasundar visted him in Vrindaban.You can just feel how thick the love Srila Prabhupada has for his son and how pleased he was that Gaurasundar was reengizing his practice of Krishna consciousness. Remember that "stonehearted".Must bring tears.

Taliban warns US that they will retaliate if we respond against them. These poor chumps don't get it.They won't be around anymore to respond.