Pankaja_Dasa

Bg.8.21: That supreme abode is called unmanifested and infallible, and it is the supreme destination. When one goes there, he never comes back. That is My supreme abode. __

Bhagavad-gita AS IT IS. Bhagavad-gita-Diacritic.zip [684Kb] Balarama-Fonts.zip [1126KB] A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada. Audio Provided by Kamlesh Patel www.gitamrta.org

It says in Bhagavatam that in the eternal spritual sky this Universe is like a small black cloud. So it is very easy to understand it.

Of the same facts, like in Gayatri mantra, everybody chants this. But they understand it in different ways according to thier inclination and consciousness. Depending on your level thats the way you know it. According to Vaishnavas the highest understanding is Gayatri Mantra describes the Vraja-lila.

When are you are dreaming. ___ ...the fact is that each and every living entity is covered by two kinds of bodies, one subtle and one gross. So the subtle body causes the living entity to take another gross body. We have got experience that in dreaming the gross body is inactive while the subtle body is continuing activities; and again in deep sleep the subtle body is continuing activities. The living entity after being carried by the subtle body to another gross body, it sometimes remains in deep sleep in the womb of the mother. Then gradually the subtle body begins to act within another gross body. When this gross body is fully developed befitting to come out of the mother's body, that is called another birth. Again he changes to another gross body imperceptibly. Just like in the film thousands of pictures are moved imperceptibly. It looks that the body in the picture is moving, but the audience cannot understand that there are so many pictures in the spool. They think that the picture is moving. Similarly every second every moment we are changing the body. Letter to: Svarupa Damodara, Los Angeles, 23 June, 1975 Personally unless I can find more, this 'out of body' exeperience is not that the soul leaves the body, if it did you'd be dead. See Gita 6.15: Here

If you want make your own Radio. Put all these file in a NOTEPAD file or Text File. And name it as NVD.m3u Or just download them lol. http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya00_intro.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_01.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_02.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_03.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_04.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_05.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_06.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_07.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_08.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_09.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_10.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_11.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_12.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_13.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_14.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_15.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_16.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_17.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/Mahatmya_18.mp3 http://www.vaisnava.com/cgi-bin/st/ax.pl?http://www.vaisnava.com/books/NbdwpBhavataranga.mp3

I actually had the same question. Talk about a complicated affair. Unless somebody tells you these facts. It's like seaching for a needle in a massive hazeystack. Thx for the info. I think Sridhara Maharaha says, it's a twisty affair Guru-parampara. Anyway I told one devotee that knowing all this can be like Jnana-yoga which he agreed with because then you may spend too much time finding this out. Good point.

I haven't met many that think it was Not Okay. They maybe many but they are mosly Muslims who don't practice thier religion anyway [is that ironic or what?]. I heard they hate the western ways or drinking, clubs etc. But here in my city, many Muslims goto Nightclubs etc. These are the ones who think it's bad what they are doing, go figure that out.. because I can't. Maybe it's the 'leaders fault' if the cleris say it is okay, then young minds can be brainwashed. Besides that I heard Muslims are from a Vedic point of view not even 5th class in Varna system [no idea]. So they not very intelligent even then most people. It's so weird it is like thier own religion is killing them. Maybe it's time for another incarnation. Dunno how anybodies going to stop it. You know how many Muslims countries there are? A muslims asked me? I dunno I said. 45!! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

Why should I speculate about what Prabhupada said? Always devotees say what did Prabhupada say about it, Prabhupada gave the Bhagavatam! and Gita! Take a look in their.. Sorry I am far away, anyway. I didn't mean any offence. Ps. I live in a predominent Muslims town [very famous in Uk! for the wrong reasons /images/graemlins/tongue.gif]. While I was in school years ago [12 years ago] their were riots in India when those Muslims broke Lord Rama temple. And I was probably the only indian besides about 3, and in class [and whole school] they were writing on the Blackboard Kill all Indians.' Me and my indian friend were right there, he was like laughing [his clever fellow]. I was fuming inside. Thinking here I am ****kos [sorry needs to be said how I was feeling]. Then the teacher came back to the class and as if in a sureal devopolment. She called us out. And we went to the hall-way with all the people from the class. They looked so scared I thought they has . in thier pants. Anyway they said sorry to us. What really hurt was most of them I knew for YEARS in class. And that they had no compassion. But when the Headmaster [who I must say handled the sitaution with amazing speed]. Told them he would have to SHUT down the school in case somebody started a riot or something. No clue what he told them. After that the people that did it were nice to me. But inside I hated thier guts, anyway my real 'friends' in the school [mosly muslims anyway] were ok.

Dates for your country /images/graemlins/shocked.gif

Anybody?

Nityananda Trayodasi, Ekadasi fasting is again observed and Lord Nityananda can be glorified any time of the day or night.

When we meet a muslims whos the highest class of Vaishnava, and offend him. So for Ghari whos senior devotee to say those things is bewildering to me. After all these years, to have hate for others is not purebhakti.

To Vaishnavaisum. Like we are meant to do. What you said Prabhupada never said. Basically it is your own speculations. I am seeing many devotees being against Muslims, but Prabhupada never actually taught this. Neither did Gauranga Mahaprabhu ever kill any muslims. In fact they were converted to Vaishnavaisum.

They are the Original Books in Library of Vedic Culture.

He was taking the picture? No clue Prabhu

Bhagavatam Canto 9 TEXT 48 TEXT jata nirmucya vidhivat kula-vrddhaih samam guruh abhyasincad yathaivendram catuh-sindhu-jaladibhih SYNONYMS jatah--the matted locks of hair on the head; nirmucya--shaving clean; vidhi-vat--according to regulative principles; kula-vrddhaih--the elderly persons in the family; samam--with; guruh--the family priest or spiritual master, Vasistha; abhyasincat--performed the abhiseka ceremony of Lord Ramacandra; yatha--as; eva--like; indram--unto King Indra; catuh-sindhu-jala--with the water of the four oceans; adibhih--and with other paraphernalia for bathing. TRANSLATION The family priest or spiritual master, Vasistha, had Lord Ramacandra cleanly shaved, freeing Him from His matted locks of hair. Then, with the cooperation of the elderly members of the family, he performed the bathing ceremony [abhiseka] for Lord Ramacandra with the water of the four seas and with other substances, just as it was performed for King Indra.

This came in a Forum. I was surprized as you when I saw it.! Sorry:( I know one devotee from that temple I talk with his going to India later. ... _ Ps. I thought i posted this on the other thread, but accidently posted it here.

Bg.8.22: The Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is greater than all, is attainable by unalloyed devotion. Although He is present in His abode, He is all-pervading, and everything is situated within Him. all-prevading. Bg.11.47: O universal Lord, I wish to see You in Your four-armed form, with helmeted head and with club, wheel, conch and lotus flower in Your hands. I long to see You in that form. Vishnu. SB.2.6.42: TEXT adyo 'vatarah purusah parasya kalah svabhavah sad-asan-manas ca dravyam vikaro guna indriyani virat svarat sthasnu carisnu bhumnah SYNONYMS adyah--first; avatarah--incarnation; purusah--Karanarnavasayi Visnu; parasya--of the Lord; kalah--time; svabhavah--space; sat--result; asat--cause; manah--mind; ca--also; dravyam--elements; vikarah--material ego; gunah--modes of nature; indriyani--senses; virat--the complete whole body; svarat--Garbhodakasayi Visnu; sthasnu--immovable; carisnu--movable; bhumnah--of the Supreme Lord. Karanarnavasayi Visnu is the first incarnation of the Supreme Lord, and He is the master of eternal time, space, cause and effects, mind, the elements, the material ego, the modes of nature, the senses, the universal form of the Lord, Garbhodakasayi Visnu, and the sum total of all living beings, both moving and nonmoving. purusah--Karanarnavasayi Visnu Eh thy can't be al the same can they? Try to little intelligent next time.. ! Karana and Garbo are not concocted words, they appear many times in Vedabase.

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My Parents brought back a 'stone' round in size from Govardhana, is that a 'sila'? Is it ok to worship it. Without much effort? Or is it same as Radha-Krsna worship. Govardhanara Gopala /images/graemlins/grin.gif

The mode of ignorance. I don't know why they are more in ignorance then say i.e western people [non-religious[?], I think thier leaders misintrepretate thier scriptures, like I saw this so-called Muslim on Tv saying Qu'ran says something about killing, and you become martered. The other person asked what about the Muslim girl who died in the Bus [London Bombings] he said their family will get 'blood money[?]. And she is martered. So for thier own cause they willing to kill fellow Muslims. ? I don't think that is mentioned in the Qu'ran [?]. If it is then I am sure there is somebody who will find it! Remember Islam is about Peace. [how you intrepreatet that is your own business!]. I think most of them are speculating for want of trying to follow praying 5 times a day [which means about 1.30 Hrs]. Who knows.. If thier was an ideal Muslim then..

I want to know what version of 'Vedabase I have [$15 version]. I thought all this time I had the Original works, but having come across this, and comparing it to words file on www.bvml.org [Prabhupada Original pre77 Books]. Anyway can some devotees let me know. Original Cc. Antya 5.131 Purport: nasta-prayesv abhadresu nityam bhagavata-sevaya bhagavaty uttama-sloke bhaktir bhavati naisthiki "As one regularly hears the Bhagavatam or renders service unto the pure devotee, all that is troublesome to the heart is practically destroyed, and loving service unto the glorious Lord, who is praised with transcendental songs, is established as an irrevocable fact." (Bhag. 1.2.18) Cc. Antya 5.131 Purport: Complete Works of Srila Prabhupada [meant to be original Works]: nañöa-präyeñv abhadreñu nityaà bhägavata-sevayä bhagavaty uttama-çloke bhaktir bhavati naiñöhiké “By regularly hearing the Bhägavatam and by rendering of service to the pure devotee, all that is troublesome to the heart is almost completely destroyed, and loving service unto the Personality of Godhead, who is praised with transcendental songs, is established as an irrevocable fact.” (Bhäg. 1.2.18) DO any devotees have the Liberary of Vedic Culture? And can tell me which of the above, Translation are on thier disk. Maybe I have the wrong Cd-rom?.

Birmingham Sri Gour Govinda Gaudiya Math 176-A Alcester Road Moseley Village Birmingham B13 8HJ Tel: (0121) 449 2676 [+44 For Uk] gourgovinda@hotmail.com 'hari boll to all baisnav and baisnabi this is one byasapuja photos from our temple here in birmingham .we have near 100 people got blesing from guruden in his abirvab tithi .jay srila gurudev ki jay'