Haridasdasdas

Fluoride is mad. I know someone who is a qualified western Doctor and he's not into it. You know it's a byproduct of fertiliser or something? That's why they love it, it's cheap. Good for teeth, bad for brains maybe. Filtering should get it out I think.

Good luck with your raw rice! Seriously though, you can't just live off only raw food forever, in a few years you will have a big comedown. Read up on it.

Lord Caitanya taught that a person should chant the names of Krishna in Japa and Kirtan, and study the Bhagavatam and Gita. That was enough to make Haridas Thakur into a Bhakta, and so many others. Haridas Thakur was a Muslim who probably grew up eating cows, yet he became a great saint, so that's the power of Harinam, he wasn't interested in any Jnana. So maybe you can finally realise that what you are saying responds to your Advaita method of Sadhana, and not to other people. Muslims, Christians don't have any vedic mantras, meditation, deity worship, etc but still they have real bhakti sometimes.

The problem with you lot is you think Advaita is so complicated and that nobody who disagrees with you can understand it. That's just false ego.

Perhaps I can find the picture. If you see it you won't be able to deny it. Also Is it correct that he wears saffron but keeps a family? I don't know this one. Edit: Checked google images, the picture isn't on there. It's not a photo, it's a pinting that's a little cartooney, a bit like a lot of BBT illustrations of books.

Haha, Muslims are freedom fighters? Come on what freedom is there in a Muslim country? ...and I just read that Chandu posted the same thing in the thread. Islam has some real love of God in there, but it upsets me when I think of the bad bits.

Righht, because Maharishi never diluted anything? Really?! Not at first he didn't, but then nobody was interested when he tried to spread religion, so he changed it to a 'meditation technique' and told everyone the mantras had no meaning. Om Sri Ram? I'd like to think that has a meaning, am I wrong? TM is a watered down westernised version of Advaita Vedanta. I'm not a follower of Sri Adi Sankara, so maybe you and others can help me out here, but how often did He talk about 'Yogic hopping'? In fact how many 'TM meditators' can even name Adi Sankara? I don't know much about your Jyotir Math, but I imagine it is a proper establishment of Advaita Vedanta, and not some hodgepodge. Oh hey, Chopra has his own 'method' now right? Primordial sound meditation, where your mantra is 'goooaaaa' or something equally crazy. In response to your first point, that is your own experience, not any kind of universal truth, so come off it. Edit: I think you may have a point on what you said to Lokeshwara, about Indians being more suited to meditation and dharma. Not to say only they can practise, maybe he misunderstands you.

How can I compare? The guy has pictures drawn of himself looking like Caitanya. I mean that's obviously who they're based on. How dodgy is that? How can anyone who just rips off other people be straight up? I'm sure he teaches Bhakti and Love of God, and these are good things, and he is a good person of teaching them, and you are good for listening.

'Yes he must be God!' Oh and 'Sri Nirmala Mataji' too, the crazy lady incarnation of Shakti. Don't forget Sai Baba, the magician incarnation of Siva! Yea these people are great, and we know there weren't loads of these guys in the past, because we don't hear about them any more, right?

Convert has to be the most awful word ever. To me, all that says is a ridiculous desire to conform to social groupings and take on another material bodily designation. If you say you are this or that, this is just materialism, worthless. People think they are a Christian and so on because of some ceremony? Sincerety does not involve any stupid 'conversion'.

Because if the argument was so easily resolvable, it probably wouldn't exist.

It's one thing to say this or that about minor points and scriptural explanations, but to make laudible claims like you have is a whole different thing. You think Bhakti can onyl occur under this or that condition. What do you know? There are Christians with Bhakti, Muslims with Bhakti etc etc. They may not understand who is the personal God, but they have that love. What you are saying is basically that there is no such thing as the religious experience of others. This is ridiculous. Deepak Chopra is a new age guy who dilutes things for profit. We don't need his shit on here.

No, God is Parabrahman, whilst jivatma is brahman. You can't deny that Jiva is Brahman, it's all over the Upanisads.

I'm just trying to point it out to people. This guy is dodgy.

No, its because this guy has paintings done with him looking just like Caitanya. I saw some leaflet/brochure they had printed one time, and it was almost a picture of caitanya, you know the typical one with the arms raised. The guy calls himself Mahaprabhu. So who is making a comparison?

You'd have thought she would have visited India by now.

I'm not a qualified person, but when I read that verse I thought it only meant that the moon was a light in the night sky, like the stars, but much brighter than them, from our perspective. I don't see that it neccessarily says that the stars are just like the moon, regardless of whether or not they are.

I didn't say that I didn't understand it, I said I wasn't impressed. Don't be so egotistical that you think anyone who doesn't agree with you cannot understand you. There is your weakness. Perhaps your whole new-age 'behind religion' gimmick is just an attempt to feel better than others? You write all these words, but they're all meaningless. You write about what cannot be written about, and so you're left with a page of meaningless symbols.

Strangely enough, there does seem to be a need to point that out.

So what? You know that picture is a violation of BBT copyright? The person who painted it DID NOT wish for this man's murthi to be put over the face of Krishna. It seem's this man's followers lack the artistic ability to paint pictures themselves. Please tell me where this picture is from, it is illegal. EDIT: I have founf their website, and emailed BBT about it.

Other than a different allegiance, what does this mean? It's not about allegiances to one group or another, it's about what you are doing, and what your consciousness is. Everything else is secondary to that. So, what does this mean? What is different now and why is it different?

I don't find that terribly impressive.

I'm not going to. How many 'god men' are there out there? I never said he was a bad person, I'm sure he does good work, but he's one of many. I'm sure when you ask him about his claims to be god he simply says that actually everyone is god and he is just helping them realise that, blah blah blah. Forgive my scepticism, but it isn't hard to get people to follow you in India, theres thousands of these people, they come and go.

...because he is obsessed with material designations.