Govindaram

HK You can listen & talk to Gopal Krishna Goswami /images/graemlins/laugh.gif Today at 13:00est USA time.....or 6:00pm UK time, Sunday 06 July 2003 Haribol! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

HK I suspect theres a Islamic person going around this forum, posing as a Hare Krishna, anyone else spottted this?!

HK Just as a devotee can't live without Krishna, so Krishna can't live without His devotee...Krishna will be very pleased with you (what to say of Lord Siva!) if you worship Lord Siva as the greatest pure Vaisnava....Haribol!

HK This may NOT help at all, but years ago a friend of a friend, had a bad drug (heroin) problem, so my friend told everyone (in an intelligent way) that this person was on Heroin, and this person got more and more ashamed of his addiction and finally gave up in time, so I guess what I'm trying to say is, whoever is drinking make them 'feel' ashamed of their actions, make them regret, and contemplate what thy are doing, then maybe they can see by Krishna's grace what they are doing.....Haribol!

HK I have learned a lot from these forums, as far as good merit is concerned, don't think you should look at it that way, but learn form the word of the different Prabhus, and seek out devotee association and try to be austere by chanting maha-mantra and living by principles of devotional service as best you can, as Srila Prabhupada said-AND READ THE BHAGAVAD-GITA , and Srimad Bhagavatam....Haribol! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

HK That is such a nice way to look at-following the teachings of a spiritual master....immerse ourselves in his vani /images/graemlins/smile.gif, very nice prabhuji......Haribol!

Hk Folio III 'The Way of God' /images/graemlins/grin.gif ____________________

can this be true? Haribol!

HK Thats me asking about rudrakshas Prabhu, I heard they can give you a lot of help in spiritual life, if you were one around your neck. And Srila Parabhupada did chant Maha-Mantra on rudraksha beads!

Purport to Jaya Radha Madhava (New York, July 20, 1971) by Srila A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada [sings Jaya Radha-Madhava.] Listen while you read /images/graemlins/smile.gif Srila Prabhupada: So this is the original nature of Krsna, original nature of Krsna. He is Radha-Madhava. He is the lover of Srimati Radharani. And kunja-vihari, always enjoying the company of the gopis within the bushes of Vrdavana forest. Radha-madhava kunja-vihari. So He's not only lover of Radharani, but braja-jana-vallabha. The whole residents of Vrndavana, they love Krsna. They do not know anything else. They do not know whether Krsna is God, or not; neither they are very much harassed, that "I shall love Krsna if He is God.He may be God or He may be whatever He is. It doesn't matter, but we love God, Krsna." That's all. That is called unnalloyed love. "If Krsna is God, then I shall love Him" -- this is conditional love. This is not pure love. Krsna may be God or whatever He may be, but by His wonderful acts, the Vrajavasi, they are thinking, "Oh Krsna, He is very wonderful child, maybe some demigod. Maybe some demigod." Because people are generally under impression that the demigods are all-powerful. They're powerful within this material world. But they do not know that Krsna is above all of them. Isvarah paramah krsnah sac-cid-ananda-vigrahah [bs. 5.1]. The highest demigod, Brahma, is giving his opinion, "The supreme controller is Krsna." So as the residents of Vrndavana, they love Krsna without any condition, similarly, Krsna also loves them without any condition. Vraja-jana-vallabha giri-vara-dhari. When the inhabitants of Vrndavana were in danger because they stopped Indra-yajna and Indra became very angry, and he sent very great, powerful cloud and rained over Vrndavana incessantly for seven days, so when the inhabitants became very much disturbed, Krsna, although He was only seven years old boy, He saved them by lifting the Govardhana Hill. So He taught Indradeva, demigod, that "To stop your disturbance is the business of My little finger. That's all." So he came down to his knees. These things you'll find in Krsna book. So as the Gopi-jana-vallabha, His only business is how to protect gopi-jana. So our Krsna consciousness movement is how to become one of the gopi-jana. Then Krsna will save us from any danger, even by lifting a hill or mountain. Krsna is so kind and so powerful. When Krsna lifted the hill, He did not practice some yoga system. And that is God. Although He was a child, He was playing like a child, He was dealing like a child, but when there was need, He was manifesting as God. That is Krsna. That is Krsna, not that He has to go and practice some yoga system. Then He becomes God. No. He's not that type of God, not manufactured God. He's God. So gopi-jana-vallabha giri-vara-dhari. And as a child, as beloved child of Yasoda, Yasoda-nandana,... Krsna likes to be a child of a devotee. He wants to be chastised from His devotee father and mother. Because everyone worships Him, nobody goes to chastise Him, so He takes pleasure when a devotee chastises Him. That is Krsna's service. If Krsna takes pleasure being chastised, so the responsibility is taken by a devotee: "All right, I shall become Your father and chastise You." When Krsna wants to fight, one of His devotees becomes Hiranyakasipu and fights with Him. So all activities of Krsna is with His devotees. He is... Therefore, to become associate of Krsna, to develop Krsna consciousness... Yasoda-nandana vraja-jana-vallabha, vraja-jana-ranjana. His only business is how to satisfy... As braja-jana's business is how to satisfy Krsna, similarly, Krsna's business is how to satisfy braja-jana. This is reciprocation of love. Yamuna-tira-vana-cari. Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, is wandering on the banks of Yamuna to please the gopis, the cowherd boys, the birds, beasts, calves. They are not ordinary birds, beasts, calves or men. They are on the top of self-realization. Krta-punya-punjah. After many, many lives they got that position, to play with Krsna. So our Krsna consciousness movement is so nice that everyone can go to Krsnaloka and become His associate, as a friend or so many other things, as a servant, as father, as mother. And Krsna is agreeable to any one of these propositions. These things are described very nicely in our Teachings of Lord Caitanya. So Krsna does not go even a step from Vrndavana. The original Krsna is Vrndavana. That is described in the Brahma-samhita, cintamani-prakara-sadmasu kalpa-vrksa- laksavrtesu surabhir abhipalayantam laksmi-sahasra-sata-sambrahma-sevyamanam govindam adi-purusam (tam aham bhajami) [bs. 5.29] Brahma is accepting the Supreme Personality of Govinda, Krsna in Vrndavana. Venum kvanantam: "He is engaged in playing flute." (venum kvanantam) aravinda-dalayataksam barhavatamsam asitambuda-sundarangam kandarpa-koti-kamaniya-visesa-sobham govindam adi-purusam tam aham bhajami [bs. 5.30] So take advantage of these books, this knowledge, and this prasadam, this chanting, and be happy and go to Krsna. So nice thing. All right.

HK This thread has just been added.....Haribol!

HK Here are some links prabhu /images/graemlins/smile.gif srila-prabhupada-books. index-books Haribol!

/images/graemlins/smile.gif..but please engage us in the service of your pure devotee-without delay! /images/graemlins/laugh.gif

HK depends on what kind of fish y r /images/graemlins/grin.gif

HK <font color="red">Remember my Words! the wrath will surely sieze you!and it will come from a direction from where you will not perciev but a little. Is it not the truth that you denied? </font color> Fear/Wrath/Hell/.....Haribol! /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

Just some service to His devotee, would make me feel happy, as far as Lord Krishna is concerned I think that would please him MORE! /images/graemlins/smile.gif

no sorry /images/graemlins/confused.gif.. it went way over my HEAD!

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HK How long is a fish's memory? 3 seconds How long is a sharks memory? 6 seconds How long is blue whales memory? 9 seconds How long is a timigala fish's(bigger the whale) memory Long enough! /images/graemlins/mad.gif... /images/graemlins/frown.gif... /images/graemlins/ooo.gif.... /images/graemlins/mad.gif... /images/graemlins/smile.gif.... /images/graemlins/confused.gif

HK I used to think when people said SP is my spiritual master and I don't need anyone else, I thought they were being a bit sentimental, because you need a living Guru, but after having read about 'other' stuff, I can only say that Srila Prabhupada is alive through his book, tapes etc. But what gets me is how aspiring disciples can accept a siksha spiritual master so quickly, wouldnt it be better to be initiated into the Maha-Mantra through SP (diksha) and then wait for ? years and check out the 'competition'. After all a spiritual master is for life and not just for Christmas!

HK "Gadadhara! In a very short time I'll become such a Vaisnava that Lord Brahma and Lord Siva themselves will come to My door." /images/graemlins/smile.gif

HK You say you can fill 'our' room, well we can fill your 'room*' as well, care to give out your url?* *we will get back to you on that one, goodbye 2:190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

HK Just found a link which explains everything, very nicly Please check it out Prabhus & Mata's /images/graemlins/smile.gif Diksha, Siksha, Initiation

HK Isn't it that also that Lord Visnu is blue, so to make people know Krishna is Visnu, Krishna is depicted as blue Ps I thought he was black....Haribol

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