Is it true?

July 2, 2003

Hare Krishna,

You mooslims should be careful. Be careful otherwise I will expose all the filth in your religion. Go back to your place and never return to this site and mess with our people here. We Hindus practise our religion without forcing our views on anybody. We expect the same from others. If you mess we will be forced to do the same.

Mr. Mo was nothing more than a terrorist. Your own Hadiths prove this point. One word and that is Al Azl(Coius interruptus). Mr. Mo allowed his companoions to do this to captured slave women. What kind of prophet would allow to do such a oorible practise. Quran explicitly allows owning female slaves captured as booty for the sole purpose of SEX.

http://www.coran.org.ar/ingles/sahij/book8/022.htm

Look at the heartless brute nature of your prophet. He did not even try to protect the women.

http://muhammadanism.org/Hadith/Topics/Adultery.htm

Qur'an

Also (forbidden are) women already married, except those (captives and slaves) whom your right hands possess. Thus has Allâh ordained for you. All others are lawful, provided you seek (them in marriage) with Mahr (bridal money given by the husband to his wife at the time of marriage) from your property, desiring chastity, not committing illegal sexual intercourse, so with those of whom you have enjoyed sexual relations, give them their Mahr as prescribed; but if after a Mahr is prescribed, you agree mutually (to give more), there is no sin on you. Surely, Allâh is Ever All-Knowing, All-Wise. Surah An-Nisâ' 4:24 (Translated by Muhammad Al-Hilali and Muhammad Khan.)

July 2, 2003

I am really starting to think that their scriptures have been compromised. I have seen just too much that I cannot accept as being orders from God or His prophet.

Why do they kid themselves talking about Him. There is no Him. Allah is an It according to them. It is all very unsatisfying. They should keep calling It an It until they realize that you can't have a relationship with an It. They only prolong the farce with using the word Him.

Granted, he was talking to the people who had rejected both Judaism and Christianity. So we are not talking about the most elevated amongst man. Who knows what had to be said to sway the brutal hearts of such creatures? Mohammed?

July 2, 2003

This article is being circulated around the internet by email and through many Islamic websites referring to a book by one Prof. Pundit Vaid Parkash, which purportedly says that Kalki, the last Avtar of Vishnu and for Hindus who is the Awaited One, is none but the Prophet Mohammed.

I ignored them earlier as the matter proclaimed in the article is completely based on imaginary facts, similar to the fake quatrains of Nostradamus which were being circulated after 9/11. A lie repeated thousand times is gradually accepted as truth. It is time that someone tackle this issue head-on. It has come to such a situation that a person searching the Net for Kalki will come up only with the (mis) information that Prophet Mohammed was mentioned in the Hindu scriptures as the Awaitred One.

The article can be read in a number of Islamic websites. One such URL is the following : http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Park/6443/Hindu/islam_essays_prophet_hindu.htm . I am not repeating the texts. Other sites basically copy the same article along with their own commentaries.

The problem with the prophecies relating to Kalki is that very few people know the details of these prophecies. Due to this, it is quite easy to mislead people by presenting certain imaginary facts and interpretations. Judging from some of the Islamic websites, it seems that some of them really believe Prophet Mohammed was mentioned in the Hindu scriptures as Kalki, simply relying on that article, without bothering to verify the facts. Here is a line by line rebuttal on why it is not so. I may not be the authority on Kalki but at least I’ve read the original book. The English translation of parts of the “Kalki Puran” in this site is quite good and I have referred to those below while presenting my points.

Para-1 : It has been wrongly said that Kalki has been mentioned in the Vedas. Nowhere in the four Vedas has Kalki been ever mentioned. Kalki has been mentioned in the “Puranas” – namely, the “Vishnu Puran” (one of the 18 major Puran) and the “Kalki Puran” (a minor Puran).

Para-2: I have not heard any hue and cry about this purported book in India in Hindi and I’m a Hindi speaking guy. About putting the author in jail had he been a Muslim, well many Muslims in India regularly write such things about Hindu religion and still go scot-free. And when Muslims write such things about Islam, their books get banned. Example – Salman Rushdie for writing “Satanic Verses”. You see, in a democracy, politicians are overtly conscious about minority rights but forget about majority sentiments.

Para-3: No one has ever heard of a “Pundit Vaid Parkash” in India. It’s a concocted name and there is surely no renowned Sanskrit scholar of that name in India. He is said to be holding an important portfolio in “Ilahabad University”, which I take to be Allahabad University. The website of that University is http://www.allduniv.edu . Check out the faculty list of that university (I hope he was not a student  ). No such person in the faculty. The guy writing the article thought he was clever. But everything’s online these days.

The said “Pundit Vaid Parkash” is said to be coming from the “Bengali race”. The fact is that Bengalis don’t have names like “Pundit Vaid Parkash”. Ask any Bengali. And why would a Bengali write a book in Hindi? He could have used English (which would have a greater readership all over India) or even Bengali.

Para-4: Here comes “Eight great Pundits”. Who are they and what are their names? Maybe the author of the article could not devise more Hindu names other than “Pundit Vaid Parkash”.

Para-5: “All Hindus should embrace Islam … should not wait for any other Kalki Autar” – Ha ! that’s the whole idea behind this (mis)information, isn’t it? Caught ya !

In Kalki Puran the birth place of Kalki is in a village called “Sambhal”. Do you think it is a codename for Mecca in some way? Beats me.

Para-6 (Sl.1) : It is the Purans, namely the Vishnu Puran and Kalki Puran and not the Vedas which said that Kalki will be the last Avtar of Vishnu. How does it make him Mohammed? Islamic texts themselves prophesize the second coming of the Christ (Isa, son of Mariam) in the future! This “well known scholar” cannot distinguish between the Vedas and the Puranas which every ordinary Hindu can !

Para-7 (Sl.2): Which Hindu prophecy says that Kalki will be born in an Island? Kalki Purana mentions that Kalki will be born in “Sambhal” village which is in the mainland; only during his marriage with “Padma” he will travel to the island “Sinhala”.

Para-8 (Sl.3): Absolute .! The father of Kalki, according to both Vishnu Puran and Kalki Puram is “Vishnujasha” (not Vishnu Bhagat, as the Islamic rumormongers claim) and the name of his mother is “Sumati”, not Somanib. To quote Kalki Puran -

Afterwards, Sumati, the wife of Vishnujasha became pregnant.... Kalki descended to earth (as a human) in the month of Baisakha on the 12th day after the full moon

~ Kalki Purana, I[2], Verses 11 and 15

Obviously, the twisting of the names had been done to make their names look like the translation of the names of the parents of Prophet Mohammad. Even that translation is faulty.

Para-9 (Sl.4): Every avtar of God is true and honest. That’s not the sole prerogative of Prophet Mohammed. As for Kalki living on olive and dates, this is completely fictitious. In fact in Kalki Purana Chapter III[17], Verse 43, Kalki and his wife is shown to have been feasting on rice, curd and other milk products.

Para-10 (Sl.5): All avtars are born in a noble and respected family (not dynasty – the term is applied to royal families. Kalki was not born in a royal family). How does that make Kalki the same person as Prophet Mohammed? Was Mohammed the only person to be born in a noble and respected family?

Para-11 (Sl.6): Kalki was taught by his “Guru” named Ram in the “mahendra” mountain. Nowhere is it said in Kalki Puran that his Guru was a messenger of God. Ram lived on a mountain – but nowhere is it mentioned that either he or Kalki lived in a cave.

Para-12 (Sl.7): Did Prophet Mohammed have two horses? Well Kalki will be provided only one. And I do not think Mohammed managed to ride to heaven and skies with his horses.

Para-13 (Sl.8): It’s a foregone conclusion that an incarnation of God on earth will have the powers of God. How does that make Kalki the same as Prophet Mohammed? By the way, Kalki is an incarnation of God Himself. As per Islamic tradition, Mohammed was God’s messenger.

Para-14 (Sl.9): A very foolish conclusion. Even today, military personnel in many parts of the world are taught horse riding and swordsmanship during their training as part of military tradition and valour. Does that mean that they fight with these weapons? In a prophecy, weapons of the future are described in the nearest term understandable at that time. Similar terms had been used by Nostradamus too in his prophecies. And if you think that Kalki Puran mentions Kalki fighting with ancient weapons, how about this?

Soon they entered the city of Bishasan, the capital of Koli, and burnt down the city using fiery missile. Alongwith the city, Koli too was burnt and his sons and relatives were destroyed.

~ Kalki Purana, III[7], Verses 9 & 10

I hope that the para-wise rebuttal above is sufficient to prove that the concocted article, purportedly written by a Hindu Pundit yet prominently being displayed in various Islamic websites is nothing but a trash of lies and was devised with an obvious ulterior motive in mind.

Before concluding I will provide some more quotes from Kalki Purana to show its modern context and that it could not have spoken about Prophet Mohammed –

1. Soon, Garga (an associate of Kalki) and his army killed 6000 Buddhist soldiers. Bharga and his soldiers killed and injured 11 million enemy soldiers and his mighty allies killed 2500 of them. Kobi along with his sons killed 2 million enemy soldiers, Pragya killed 1 million and Sumantu killed 5 million soldiers ~ Kalki Purana, II[7], Verses 5, 6, 8, 9

It seems that Kalki and his allies kill or injure an army which is almost 20 million strong. How many million men did Mohammed kill in his battles? In fact this type of huge army can be conceived in the modern times only. Also, did Mohammed ever fight this many Buddhists or anyone at all?

2. This island (Sinhala) is situated on the other side of the shore. The island has pure water and is full of people. Full of various types of Aircrafts and decorated with jewellery. The beauty of the island is enhanced by huge buildings and flags and gates decorated in front of them ~ Kalki Purana, II[1], Verses 39, 40, 41

The interesting part of the description of the island where Kalki's wife-to-be stays is that apart from the huge buildings that the island city has, its sky is also full of Aircrafts! Was there aircrafts in Prophet Mohammad’s time? In the later chapters of Kalki Puran, Kalki himself was said to be traveling on such an Aircraft. Did Mohammed do that?

3. Lord Kalki, along with his soldiers armed with various types of weapons engaged in war with Kok and Bikok. These two brothers are supreme demons, great fanatics and adept in the art of war. These brothers are intimately connected, powerful, hard to defeat and are even feared by the Gods.

~ Kalki Purana, III[6], Verses 43 & 44

The surprise elements here are the description of the war with brothers called "Kok and Bikok", who are allied with Koli. These are surely Gog and Magog described in the Biblical book of Revelations and "Yajooj and Majooj" described in the Islamic prophecies. This is the final nail in the coffin for the mischievous article. The Yajooj/Majooj war (Gog/Magog in the Bible) is the war, in which Christ during His second coming will fight during the end of the world. Prophet Mohammed did not fight this war. This war is predicted for the future in the Islamic and Biblical prophecies.

We can thus definitely conclude that Kalki will appear in the future and is not Prophet Mohammed by any means. Claiming so can only be the work of a deceiver. However, it is the Muslims who are only deceived by all these ., not the Hindus.

July 2, 2003

Hadith 3.723

The Prophet said, "He who has a slave-girl and teaches her good manners and improves her education and then manumits and marries her, will get a double reward; and any slave who observes Allah's right and his master's right will get a double reward."

What are Allah's rights ? Allah rights are that she should not show herself to others for lust.Allah says when you marry, it should not be lust.

Why dont you say truth except lie,mention number first when you are stating falsehood may your own people deny your falsehood.Illegal sexual intercourse is strictly prohibbited in Islam thats why Islam allowed 4 wives which is the most best number of wives ask the researchers if it does not millions of women will get husbands and they will commit illegal sex.What filth you are talking ask those who dont have knowledge of sex and purity they are in diseases incurable.We muslim dont feel shame in the least bit because what ever message was given was for our betterment .Muhammad was totally open .how he bath ,what was the recuirments of worshiping after having sex does your falsehood gives this much explaination?

didnt its mentioned above that english translation are not always correct

24 Also (prohibited are) women already married except those whom your right hands possess. Thus hath Allah ordained (prohibitions) against you: except for these all others are lawful provided ye seek (them in marriage) with gifts from your property desiring chastity not lust. Seeing that ye derive benefit from them give them their dowers (at least) as prescribed; but if after a dower is prescribed ye agree mutually (to vary it) there is no blame on you and Allah is All-Knowing All-Wise.

the brackets are especially used to insert translators own word since Quran is totally poetic like your scriptures if translators try to directly translate then it would become some what difficult to understand and Quran is read with Hadith Quran is theory Sunnah Hadith are practical.

next time when you try to bring some falsehood so please mention number so that unbelievers may understand what the hack you utter from your mouths

our religion is totally checked there is not a single word in Quran or Hadith which is unscientic or illogical

as for yours if you say to pick some falsehood from yours we are ever ready and you will start crying the number of pornography contained in your false hood. does your religion sets a limit on clothes they are getting smaller and smaller a time will come when you all will be naked in a gathering where you will find free sex, than you will find nor christians ,jews ,hindus , and whoever is the enemy of Allah and deny his messenger nothing but false hood in their reliogion

Al Mulk

8 Almost bursting with fury: every time a Group is cast therein its Keepers will ask "Did no Warner come to you?" 5565

9 They will say: "Yes indeed: a Warner did come to us but we rejected him and said `Allah never sent down any (Message): ye are in nothing but an egregious delusion!' " 5566

10 They will further say: "Had we but listened or used our intelligence we should not (now) be among the Companions of the Blazing Fire!" 5567

is it not sufficient evidence that you denied both science and signs?

I proclaim to you glad tiding of a great fire where you will nighther live nor die! and be you among those who are cursed by all of the creatures

You soon shall know when the sun will rise from west and Jesus will declare truth or you may die before that than you will remembers how many came to warn you!

Now nothing can save you

Hadith 4.551

The Prophet said, "Allah will say to that person of the (Hell) Fire who will receive the least punishment, 'If you had everything on the earth, would you give it as a ransom to free yourself (i.e. save yourself from this Fire)?' He will say, 'Yes.' Then Allah will say, 'While you were in the backbone of Adam, I asked you much less than this, i.e. not to worship others besides Me, but you insisted on worshipping others besides me.' "

July 2, 2003

Just wait for few days the things which you are denying there older copies are also availabe irf has a complete library about what the false hood you are saying.you deny one you deny two just wait when it will come as a whole mountain then you will not be able to utter a single false hood

[41:53]Soon will we show them our signs in the whole universe and within themselves until it will become menifest to them that it is the truth.

It is a thing stated 1400 Years ago and now it is fulfilled now just wait for a day when you will be asked about what you were used to deny!

we are everready what false hood you may bring we are ever ready

Surah As Saf

8 Their intention is to extinguish Allah's Light with their mouths: but Allah will complete His Light even though the Unbelievers may detest.

I_love_krishna_ · July 2, 2003

Thats all i need! now get lost.

July 2, 2003

Quran is single and your books are many "altered"

Kaliki Avtar

Q. Hindus believe that the final Avtar will visit this world in Kali-Yug and they are still awaiting Kalki Avtar or the Final Avtar. But the Muslims believe that our Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) is the final and last messenger of Allah and no more Prophets are going to come. Could you shed some light on this so that we could remove the misconception among our friends?

Khalid, Bangalore.

Srimad Bhagvat Maha Puran

Hindus believe that there are a total of 10 Avtars (In some of their traditions, this number is 24) for the eradication of evils. All but one of them have had their visits, in the past ages i.e. Satyug, Treta-Yug and Dvapar-Yug. The present Yug is Kali-Yug in which the last and the final Avtar is to visit this world as Kalki Avtar. The starting of the present age Kali-Yug for which Kalki Avtar was destined, dates back to a time ranging from many thousand years to a few lakh years from now, according to different Hindu scholars. Hindus are still waiting for Kalki Avtar or the Final Avtar. Now let us examine the signs of the Kalki Avtar in Srimad Bhagvat Puran. "After the expiry of a great part of Kali-Yug, the nature of the people will resemble that of donkeys. They will engulf themselves in carrying the burden of the material life.

At such a time, for the protection of the truth, Bhagvan will take Avtar." (12:216).

There is a general misconception among Hindus that God Himself visits the earth as Avtar. It can be conclusively proved by the Hindu scriptures that the visit of a Prophet (Pbuh) of God was allegorically described as God’s own visit. This, again is a lengthy topic. Anyway, see the next relevant shlokas.

Shambhalgramm ukhyasya Brahmanasya Mahatmanah; Bhavane Vishnu Yashsah Kalki Pradurbhavishyati

"In those days there will be a great man of good character (in the family of) the chief priest in ‘Shambhal’ village, by the name of Vishnu Yash. Kalki would take birth in his home." (12:2:18)

Now let us analyses the above shloka

1. Kalki will be born in ‘Shambhal’ village. There are three meanings of the word ‘Shambhal’, as per Sanskrit grammar [Refer. pp.29-30; Dr.Ved Prakash Upadhyay; Kalki Avtar Aur Mohammad Sahab]

(a) the place of peace. (Makkah is known as Darussalam which means ‘the home of peace’).

(b) Which attracts people. (There is no other place in the world except Makkah where such a large gathering, at a time, of about 25 lakh people is made, from all over the world. In fact if there were not restrictions from the respective governments, the gathering would have been in crores despite the financial hazards. In fact the word ‘Makkah’ has become the proverb for the centre of attraction in other languages also e.g.., ‘Lords is the Mecca of cricket’).

2. The name of the father of Kalki Avtar would be Vishnu Yash. Vishnu is not the name of a god in a trinity. It is the name of one of the attributes of One God (Rigveda 2:1:3; also R.V. 1:164:46). Yash means slave. Vishnu Yash means the slave of God. (The name of the father of Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was Abdullah which means the slave of God. He was a man of a very sound character, is a part of history. Vishnu Yash would be a man of character, was prophesied in the above shloka).

3. Kalki Avtar would be born in the family of the Head-Priest of Shambhal village. (The grand father Abdul Muttalib of the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh) was the Head Priest of Ka’aba in Makkah city).

Ashva mashugamaruhya Devadattam Jagatpati;

Asin assadhudaman amashtaishvaryaguna nvitah.

"He is the lone hope of all good qualities, the man of Ashtsiddhi (eight divine characteristics). He, the Jagatpati (leader of the world), riding the horse named Devadat will destroy the wicked by his sword'. (12:2:19)

Analysis

1. The man of eight divine characteristics. [Mahabharata has described the eight characteristics as : Pragya (divine knowledge). Kuleenta (belonging to noble family), Indriyadaman (to keep all senses in one control), shrut (divine revelation), Parakram (Physically strong), Abhubhashita (the temperament of speaking less), Dan (giving alms to poor), Kritagyata (acknowledging favour of any benefactor).

I don’t think I need giving you the detailed proof of each one of the above qualities abundantly found in Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh). I advise you to collect at least one specific example of each one of the above from the like history of the Prophet (Pbuh) before talking to your friends. Ask any Maulvi or religious scholar if you are unable to quote specific events yourself in support of above.

2. He will be Jagatpati. The equivalent Urdu word for Jagatpati is Sarwar-e-Alam which is very popularly used for the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh).

3. He would be a horse rider. Horses are no more used in the battles in the present day world, so the hope of the arrival of a horse rider to lead in the battle field to destroy the wicked in the present age of tanks and planes, is ridiculous. We shall have to search for the Kalki Avtar in the horse’s age.

4. Sword would be his weapon. Again, hoping in future, when even the nuclear arsenal and missiles may become obsolete, for a personage who is wielding a sword is ridiculous. You will certainly have to go back to a few centuries in search of Kalki Avtar.

5. He would ride a Devadat (divine) horse. The Prophet (Pbuh) had ridden a divine horse, Burraq to visit Jerusalem and the heavens. The relevant event can be seen in the books of Hadiths.

6. He would destroy the wicked. No man on the face of earth, in his own life time, in a short span of two decades has such a record of conquering vast empires of evils as is accredited to the Prophet Muhammad (Pbuh).

Vichrannashuna Chhonyam Hayenapratimadhyuti;

Nripalingachhde Dasyun Kotisho Nihanishyati

"His whole body would emit incomparable splendour. He on his speedy horse shall ride along the earth and shall destroy the robbers disguising as kings." (12:2:20)

Analysis

1. Emission of splendour from his body. The following two Hadiths would suffice for the explanation;

"Narrated Mohammad, s/o Ammar s/o Yasir that Rabi d/o Muawwiz told her; son, I had you seen him (the Prophet), you would have thought you had seen the bright sun." (Darami)

"Narrated Jabir s/o Samra thus: I was gazing at the face of the Prophet (Pbuh) of God on a moonlit night. I kept comparing the face of the Prophet with moon and I found his splendour was greater than of the moon". (Tirmizi, Darmi) Qur’an has called the Prophet (Pbuh) by the name Sirajam Munira (the brilliant sun) (Q. 33:46)

2. Destroyed the robbers in disguise of kings. (All the tribal heads of Makkah were robbers in disguise of kings. They had accumulated fortunes by making a whole community of people untouchable. The worst sufferers of untouchability in India are in a far better condition than the untouchable slaves of that society. The Prophet’s (Pbuh) revolution in two decades brought about a change unparalleled in history so much so that Bilal, who was dragged bare-bodied on the burning sand with a chain around his neck, was elevated to such heights that he was revered and called Sayidna (our master) by the highest of the high castes.

Ath Tesham Bhavishyanti Manansi Vishdani Vai;

Vasudevangaragati punyagandhan ilasprisham;

Paurjanapadanam vai Hatesvakhildasyushu

"When all the robbers will be destroyed, the hearts of the city and the whole country would be filled by righteousness and piousness because the atmosphere will be surcharged by the fragrance of his body and they will be able to receive that fragrance". (12:2:21)

Analysis

1. The whole country will be turned into a picture of piety. (This is a page of history now and you can quote to your friends as many examples as you wish).

2. The fragrance of his body will surcharge the atmosphere. (There can be two meanings of the above stated characteristic, (a) His body actually emitted fragrance. Following two Hadiths testify to this fact.

"Reported Anas thus: I have never smelt a musk or amber whose fragrance was more pleasant than the fragrance of the body of the Prophet (Pbuh)." (Bukhari, Muslim) "Narrated Jabir thus; When the Prophet (Pbuh) passed through a street, then anyone passing through that street afterwards recognised from the fragrance spread them from his body, that the Prophet (Pbuh) had been there." (Darami)

(b) His spiritual fragrance surcharged the atmosphere and affected those present. There are a number of events recorded in history when only a glimpse of the Prophet’s (Pbuh) person changed the heart of the visitor.

These were the prophecies about the holy Prophet (Pbuh) in Srimad Bhagvat Maha Puran whose author is said to be Maharishi Ved Vyas. You may refer to the following books for the original texts and more detailed descriptions.

1. Srimad Bhagvat Maha Purana (Hindi translation with text); Khand (Volume) II, Gita press, Gorkhpur (price Rs.55/-) (The publications of Gita press are available almost everywhere).

2. Kalki Avtar aur Mohammad Sahab (Hindi). The book is not easily available. You may write and enquire directly of the author, Dr. Ved Prakash Upadhyay, Head of the Deptt. of Sanskrit, University of Chandigarh. This 60 page booklet was priced at Rs.1/- in 1970.

II. Kalki Puran

Shambhale Vishnuuyashso Grahe Prdurbhavamyaham.

"He (Kalki) will be born in the home of Vishnuyash (Abdullah) (in the family of) the Head Priest of Shambhal (Land of peace or Darassalam or Makkah). (Kalki Purana - 2:4)

Chaturbhir Bhratribhirdev Karishyami Kalikehayam

‘O’ Deva (God) 1 along with the four companions he will destroy the devil" (2:5)

Analysis

Prophet Mohammad’s four main companions are popularly known as ‘Chaar Yaar’. They are Abu Bakr, Umar, Usman and Ali. They became the Caliphs of Islamic empire, one by one after the Prophet.

Yat Yuyam Bhuvam Devah Swanshavatrane Ratah

"He will be helped in the battle field by the Devatas (angels)" (2:7)

There are many stances of this in the life of the Prophet. One such example is being quoted here from the book of Hadith.

"Narrated Sa’ad s/o Abi Waqas thus : I saw two person in white clothes on the right and left of the Prophet of God Pbuh in the battle of Ohud. Both of them were fighting fiercely. I never saw them before or after that. They were the angels Gabriel and Mechael." (Bukhari, Muslim)

Sumatyam Vishnuyashsa Garbhma dhatt Vaishnavam

He will be born in the home of Vishnuyash (Abdullah) in the womb of Sumati” (2:11)

Analysis

The name of his mother would be ‘Sumati’. The meaning of the word ‘Sumati’ or Somvati is ‘the bearer of peace’. The name of the mother of Prophet Mohammad Pbuh was Aamina which means exactly the same- “the bearer of peace’.

Dvadashyam Shiklapakchasya Madhava Masi Madhavam

"He will be born on the 12th day of Shukla Pakch of the month of Madhav (Vaisakh)" (2:15)

Analysis

12th day of the Shukla Pakch means the 12th day of the moon. Prophet Muhammad’s (Pbuh) birth day is celebrated on the 12th day of Rabi Ul Awwal by a lunar calendar.

Reference books for the above:-

1. Kalki Purana, with original text and translation

You can write to ‘Shir Venkateshwar Press, Khemraj Shrikrishna Das Marg, Mumbai-4" for the above Purana.

2. Kalki Avtar Aur Muhammad Sahab, by Dr.Ved Prakash Upadhyay.

III. Bhavishya Puran

The name of the Prophet Muhammed (Pbuh) mentioned in this Puran is “Mahamad “. The prophecies are very clearcut. All the following shlokas are being quoted from “Prati Sarg Parva-3; Khand (part) 3; Adhyaya (ch.) 3” of the Bhavishya Purana and hence, only the shloka numbers are being mentioned against each shloka instead of its full reference.

Etasminnantire mlechha Achar Yen samanvitah; Mahamad iti

Khyatah Shishyashakhsamanvitah.

"In the mean time a malechha (non-Aryan) Acharya (Spiritual teacher) will appear with the bunch of his disciples. His name will be Mahamad" (5)

Nripashchair Mahadevem Marusthalnivasinam;

Gangajalaishcha Sansnapya Panchgavyasamanvitali;

Chandanadibhirabhyarchya Tushtav Mansa Haram. Bhaojraj Uvach -Namaste Girijanath Marusthalnivasine; Tripurasurnashaya Bahumaya Pravartine. Mlechhairguptaya Shuddhaya Sachchidanandrupine; Tvam Mam Hi Kinkarma Viddhi Sharnarthamupagatam.

"Raja Bhoja after giving this ‘desert dweller’ Mahadeva (great divine), a bath of Ganges water and Panchgavya, worshipped him by offerings of Sandal etc. and with Shiva’s name in heart, (he said); Namaste (I make obeisance to thee) O’ desert dweller! O’ ye ! The killer of devil, the bearer of great miracles, protected from the (enemy) malechhas, pious, the manifestation of Sachchidanand (truth, consciousness and bliss) Shankar. Consider me a slave in your protection.” (6 to 8).

Uvach Bhupatim Premna Mayamadvisharadah;

Tav Devo Maharaja Mam Dasatvamagatah. Mamochhishtam Sambhujiyadyatha Tatpashya Bhonrip; Iti Shrutva Tatha Drishtva ParamVismayamagatah. Mlechhadharme Matishchasittasya Bhupasya Darune;

"Seeing the stone idol carried by Raja Bhoj, he (Mahamad) will say (about the idol); ‘It, whom you are worshipping, can eat my leftover’. By so saying he will actually show the same to Raja. Hearing and seeing this, Raja will be very much perplexed and he will adopt the faith of malechha dharma." (15 to 17)

Ratrau Sa Devarupashcha Bahumayavisharadah;

Paishacham Dehmasthaya Bhojrajam Hi Soabravit. Aryadharmo Hi Te Rajansaivadharmottamah Smritah; Ishagya Karishyami Paishacham Dharmadarunam. Lingachchedi Shikhahina Shmashru dhari Sa dushakah; Uchchalapi Sarvabhakchhi Bhavishyati Jano Mam.

Vina Kaulam cha Pashvastesham Bhakchhaya Mata Mam;

Muslenaiva Sanskarah Kushairiv Bhavishyati. Tasmanmusalvanto Hi Jatayo Dharmadushakah; Iti Paishachdharmashcha Bhavishyati Maya Kritah.

"In the night, a messenger of God, in the guise of a ghost will say to Raja Bhoj. O’ King! Although your Arya religion is said to be the best of all religions, even then I, with the order of Isahvar shall enforce the religion of meat eaters. The circumcised, without a Choti ( a tail on the head), beard, loud proclaimer, revolutionary, and repealer of all religions, shall be my special follower. He will eat all animals except pig. As (today) the purification is sought by Kusha (the holy shrub), he will purify through warfare. Thus the Muslims shall denounce the corrupt religions. Such religion of the meat-eaters will be originated by me." (23 to 27

July 2, 2003

Allah's Covenant With Prophets

Qur'an 3:81-82

Behold! Allah took the covenant of the Prophets saying:

"I give you a Book and Wisdom; then comes to you an Apostle confirming what is with you; do ye believe him and render him help."

Allah said: "Do ye agree and take this My Covenant as binding on you?"

They said: "We agree."

He said: "Then bear witness and I am with you among the witnesses."

If any turn back after this they are perverted transgressors.

Prophecy In The Puranas

The compiler of the Puranas, Mahrishi Vyasa, is highly honored among the Hindus as a great rishi and learned person. He was a pious and God fearing man. He also wrote the Gita and the Maha Bharat. Among the eighteen volumes of the Puranas is one by the title ‘Bhavishya Puran,’ literally meaning future events. The Hindus regard it as the Word of God. The prophecy containing Prophet Muhammad by name is found in Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3, Verse 5.

Before the English translation is presented, a note on the word Malechha that appears in the first part of verse 5 is in order. The word Malechha means a man belonging to a foreign country and speaking foreign language. This word is now used to degrade people meaning unclean or even worse. Its usage varies and depends on who is using it and for whom. Sir William Jones had great difficulty in recruiting a Pundit to teach him Sanskrit because he was considered unclean (Malechha). It was only after the direct intervention of Maharaja (King) Shiv Chandra that Pundit Ram Lochna agreed to teach him Sanskrit.

It is not known when this word began to be used in the derogatory sense, whether before the advent of Prophet Muhammad (s), after the conversion of Hindu King Chakrawati Farmas (of Malabar, located on the southwest coast of India) to Islam during the lifetime of the Prophet, soon after the arrival of Muslims in India (711 CE) or sometime later. Mahrishi Vyasa, the compiler of the Puranas, has defined a wise Malechha as “a man of good actions, sharp intellect, spiritual eminence, and showing reverence to the deity (God).

Many Sanskrit words have borrowed from Arabic and Hebrew with a slight change as was shown in the examples of Brahma, Saraswati and Manu, and as indicated in Table 2 below. It appears that this word is derived from the Hebrew word Ma-Hekha (), which means thy brethren (e.g., And he (Ishmael) shall dwell in the presence of all his brethren. Genesis 16:12; i.e., Ismaelites are the brethren of the Israelites). In the context of Biblical scriptures this word meant a descendant of Prophet Ismail (Ishmael), and it is well known that Muhammad (s) is a descendant of Prophet Ismail through his second son Kedar. Those who can read Arabic Script can easily see that a mistake in separating Ma from Hekha will produce a single word ‘Malhekha,’ and when adapted in another tongue like Sanskrit might sound like Malechha.

A malechha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mahamad...

The translation of Verses 5-27 (Sanskrit text of the Puranas, Prati Sarg Parv III: 3, 3) is presented below from the work of Dr. Vidyarthi.

“A malechha (belonging to a foreign country and speaking foreign language) spiritual teacher will appear with his companions. His name will be Mahamad. Raja (Bhoj) after giving this Mahadev Arab (of angelic disposition) a bath in the 'Panchgavya' and the Ganges water, (i.e. purging him of all sins) offered him the presents of his sincere devotion and showing him all reverence said, 'I make obeisance to thee.' 'O Ye! the pride of mankind, the dweller in Arabia, Ye have collected a great force to kill the Devil and you yourself have been protected from the malechha opponents (idol worshipers, pagans).' ‘O Ye! the image of the Most Pious God the biggest Lord, I am a slave to thee, take me as one lying on thy feet.'

“The Malechhas have spoiled the well-known land of the Arabs. Arya Dharma is not to be found in that country. Before also there appeared a misguided fiend whom I had killed [note: e.g., Abraha Al-Ashram, the Abyssinian viceroy of Yemen, who attacked Mecca]; he has now again appeared being sent by a powerful enemy. To show these enemies the right path and to give them guidance the well-known Mahamad (Mohammad), who has been given by me the epithet of Brahma is busy in bringing the Pishachas to the right path. O Raja! You need not go to the land of the foolish Pishachas, you will be purified through my kindness even where you are. At night, he of the angelic disposition, the shrewd man, in the guise of a Pishacha said to Raja Bhoj, "O Raja! Your Arya Dharma has been made to prevail over all religions, but according to the commandments of ‘Ashwar Parmatma (God, Supreme Spirit), I shall enforce the strong creed of the meat-eaters. My follower will be a man circumcised, without a tail (on his head), keeping beard, creating a revolution, announcing call for prayer and will be eating all lawful things. He will eat all sorts of animals except swine. They will not seek purification from the holy shrubs, but will be purified through warfare. Because of their fighting the irreligious nations, they will be known as Musalmans (Muslims). I shall be the originator of this religion of the meat-eating nation."

Prophecy In Kuntap Sukt (Atharva Veda)

Kuntap Sukt are sections in the twentieth chapter of the Atharva Veda. These are read every year in big assemblies in prayers and where sacrifices are offered. Seventeen leading pandits assemble annually to recite these mantras (verses) with great devotion. Kuntap Sukt are mentioned in several most ancient Hindu books - Aitreya Brahmana, Kaushitki Brahmana, Gopath Brahmana, Shankhayana Shraut Sutar, Ashvlayana Shraut Sutar, and Vaitan Sutar.

The word Kuntap means to consume sin and misery, and it is composed from Kuh (sin and misery) and tap (to consume). The word Kuntap also means the ‘hidden glands in the abdomen,’ inferring the true meaning to be revealed only to those who are able to develop sufficient insight. As a comparison, Makkah (Mecca) is called the mother of towns (Umm al Qura) or the navel of the earth. Dr. Vidyarthi shows that the word Kuntap is derived from Bakkah (Makkah). In the analysis of Sanskrit and Arabic words having the same meaning such as in the preceding Table, the word ‘b’ in Arabic is used as ‘p’ in Sanskrit (in our times, one example is that of soft drink Pepsi; it is written and pronounced as Bebsi in the Arab world). A certain ‘t’ in Arabic becomes silent and pronounced as h depending on its position in that word (see Table 3, below). For example, ‘tun’ in Medinatun is replaced by h when pronounced (both t and n are dropped). Further, many Sanskrit words having parallel in Arabic are written backwards (see Table 2, above). Thus one can see the similarity between the word Kuntap and Bakkah (each containing letters k, n, t, p). Dr. Vidyarthi further demonstrates from the context of prophecies that Kuntap in fact refers to Ka’bah and Makkah (Mecca). Interestingly, the words Bakkah and Ka’bah use the same root words.

The third Mantra (verse 3) of the Kuntap Sakt is:

Its translation by Pandit Raja Ram is given below:

“He gave the Mamah Rishi a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets, three hundred steeds and ten thousand cows.”

The root of the word Mamah is Mah which means to esteem highly, honor, revere, to magnify and to exalt. The word "Mohammad" means "the praised one" in Arabic. In Sanskrit, many Muslim names are used with a slight change. For Example, ‘Mahmud’ Ghaznavi, who briefly ruled parts of India, is referred to as ‘Mamud’ Gajnavi. Therefore, Mamah is synonymous with Mohammad when the full meaning of the verse is considered. In Hinduism, the word Rishi means a teacher of mystical knowledge or Prophet, and may include someone who is divine. It appears that this word has been derived from Prophet Idris with the initial letter ‘I’ moved to the end of the word, similar to the case of Abraham and Brahma, and the 'd' dropped as in the case of Mamah (Mohammad, which is derived from root letters h, m, and d).

The hundred gold coins refer to the early companions of Prophet Muhammad, eighty of whom migrated to Abyssinia to escape unbearable persecution. In Shatpath Brahmana, a revealed commentary of the Yajur Veda, the gold is metaphorically used for denoting the high spiritual power of a man.

The ten chaplets refer to ten excellent companions of Prophet Muhammad, who were given the good news of Paradise by the Prophet. They are known to Muslims as ‘Ashra-i-Mubbashshara.’ Their names are - Abu Bakr (ra), ‘Umar, 'Uthman, 'Ali, Talha, Zubair, 'Abdur Rahman ibn 'Auf, S'ad bin Abi Waqqas, S'ad bin 'Zaid and Abu 'Ubeidah (may Allah be well-pleased with them). They are the distinguished personalities about whom the Vedas speak of as Dash ashrijah - ‘ten bouquets from the Paradise.’

Three Hundred Good Steeds (horses of Arab Breed) refers to those companions of Prophet Muhammad who fought at ‘Badr.’ (Their actual number was 313; however, in many prophecies the numbers are usually rounded up). The Sanskrit word Arvah means a swift Arab horse particularly used by Asuras (non-Aryans).

Ten Thousand Cows refer to ten thousand companions who accompanied the Prophet when he conquered Mecca. The Sanskrit word ‘go’ is derived from gaw meaning to go to war, and it is used for both an ox and a cow. A cow or an ox as described in the Vedas represents both as a symbol of war and peace and amity. We find both these qualities in the companions of Prophet Muhammad. They were saintly men, pious and compassionate like a cow, and they were fierce and strong in establishing peace and justice.

Qur'an 48:29:

“Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. And those with him are hard against the disbelievers and merciful among themselves. Thou (O Muhammad) seest them bowing and falling prostrate (in worship), seeking bounty from Allah and (His) acceptance. The mark of them is on their foreheads from the traces of prostration. Such is their likeness in the Torah and their likeness in the Gospel like as sown corn that sendeth forth its shoot and strengtheneth it and riseth firm upon its stalk, delighting the sowers that He may enrage the disbelievers with (the sight of) them. Allah hath promised, unto such of them as believe and do good works, forgiveness and immense reward.”

A Hadith of Prophet Muhammad will make this prophecy even more clear. It is narrated in Sahih Al-Bukhari, Vol. 9, number 159 and an additional deatil in Saheeh Muslim: Sharh an-Nawawee, Vol. 8. This Hadith refers to a dream of the Prophet while he was in Makkah, i.e., before his migration to Medina:

“Abu Musa related that the Prophet (pbuh) said, “I saw in a dream that I was migrating from Makkah to a land where there were date palm trees. I thought that it might be the al-Yamamah or Hajar, but it turned out to be Yathrib (Medina). And I saw cows (being slaughtered, as quoted in Sahih Muslim) there - and what is with Allah is better. Eventually, the cows proved to symbolize the believers (who were killed) on the day (of the battle) of Uhud, and the good (which I saw in the dream) was the good and reward of truth which Allah bestowed upon us after the battle of Badr.”’

This Hadith shows that cows in the dream represented the Prophet’s companions. The ten thousand cows in the Vedic mantra thus refer to ten thousand saintly companions of Prophet Muhammad.

The English translation of the mantras (verses) 1 through 13 of the Kuntap Sukt (Atharva Veda) was taken from the work of Pandit Raja Ram and other Hindu translators, and is given below. The text in is added to elaborate or explain the context of the verses for the reader.

1. Listen to this O people! a praiseworthy shall be praised. O Kaurama we have received among the Rushamas sixty thousand and ninety. [population of Makkah at the time of Prophet’s triumphant entry in Makkah].

2. Twenty camels draw his carriage, with him being also his wives. The top of that carriage or chariot bows down escaping from touching the heaven.

3. He gave the Mamah Rishi a hundred gold coins, ten chaplets, three hundred steeds and ten thousand cows. [100 early companions, 80 of them migrated to Abyssinia; ten elect companions who were given the good news of paradise by the Prophet; 313 companions of the battle of Badr; and 10,000 companions who accompanied the Prophet in the triumphant entry of Makkah and cleansing of Ka’bah of Idols].

4. Disseminate the truth, O ye who glorifies [Ahmad], disseminate the truth, just as a bird sings on a ripe fruited tree. Thy lips and tongue move swiftly like the sharp blade of a pair of shears. [The Prophet’s state when he received revelation through Archangel Jibril (Gabriel)].

5. The praying ones with their prayers hurry on like powerful bulls. Only their children are at home, and at home do they wait for the cows. [Cows refers to companions of the Prophet. Prophet’s companions strict adherence to five daily prayers at appointed times. Refers to Battles of Badr, Uhud, and Ahzab (Ditch or Allies)].

6. O you who praises (the Lord), hold fast the wisdom, which earns cows and good things. Disseminate this among the divines, just as an archer places his shaft on the right point. [wisdom of the Qur’an].

7. Sing the high praise of the king of the world or the Light of the Universe, who is a god and the best among men. He is a guide to all people and gives shelter to everyone. [Prophet Muhammad’s qualities].

8. He who affords shelter to everybody, gave peace to the world, as soon as he mounted the throne. Men in Kuru-land are talking of his peace-making at the time of the building of the house. [Kuru means one who protects a house in Hebrew and Kore means a house. It refers to the first house of worship, the Ka’bah. In this sense, Kuru-land means the land of Koreish. This Mantra refers to the rebuilding of the Ka'bah five years before Muhammad's prophethood and his role in peace-making when each tribe of the Koreish (Quraish) wanted the sole honor to put the Black Stone at its right place and disputed to the point of threats to fight each other. The Black Stone is a celestial material and is the only remaining part of the original building material of the Ka'bah].

9. In the realm of the King, who gives peace and protection to all, a wife asks her husband whether she should set before him curd or some other liquor. [Due to Prophet’s protection and commandments, women could travel freely long distances without any escort or fear].

10. The ripe barley springs up from the cleft and rises towards heavens. The people prosper in the reign of the king who gives protection to all. [people rise from the depth of degradation to the height of glory].

11. Indra awoke the singer of his praises and asked him to go to the people in every direction. He was asked to glorify Indra, the mighty and all pious men would appreciate his effort and God would bestow on him His rewards. [The Prophet sent letters to several kings and rulers in every direction inviting them to Islam].

12. Cows, horses and men multiply and increase here, because here rules the one who is bountiful and splendidly generous who gives thousands in charity and sacrifice. [qualities of the Last Prophet].

13. O Indra, let these cows be safe, and let not their master be harmed. And let not an enemy, O Indra, or a robber overpower them. [indra refers to God and cows to saintly followers of the Prophet].

For comparison, read the Biography of Prophet Muhammad (s) and What Non-Muslims Say about Prophet Muhammad (s).

More Prophecies In Atharva Veda

Atharva Veda X, 2, 28: [On Ka’bah]

Whether it is built high, its walls are in a straight line or not, but God is seen in every corner of it. He who knows the House of God, knows it because God is remembered there.

The Ka’bah is not exactly cubical and its sides are not of the same length. The Holy Sanctuary (Haram) of which Ka’abah is at the center remains open day and night throughout the year and it is always filled with people praying to Allah (the One True God). Muslims face toward it during prayer forming circle in the Haram (Holy House) and the circle extends out in this manner throughout the planet Earth.

Atharva Veda X, 2, 31:[On Holy Sanctuary (House) and Ka’bah]

This abode of the angels has eight circuits and nine gates. It is unconquerable, there is eternal life in it and it is resplendent with Divine light.

The holy sanctuary (Haram) of which Ka’bah is at the center remains open day and night throughout the year and it is always filled with people praying and supplicating to Allah (the One True God). It has remained unconquerable. Abraha Al-Ashram, the Abbysinian viceroy of Yemen, tried to demolish it in 570 CE with a strong army and hordes of elephants but was prevented from entering the city (Holy precinct). The people of Makkah had decided not to defend the Ka'bah, fled the city and took refuge in nearby hills overlooking Ka'bah. By Allah’s Command, the 'Abaabeel' (flying creatures, birds) pelted stones at Abraha's army and decimated it, leaving them like green crops devoured by cattle. This incident is described in the Surah (chapter) 105 of the Qur’an. The year 570 CE is popularly known by the Arabs as ‘The year of the Elephant,’ and Prophet Muhammad was born in that year.

Dr. Vidyarthi points out the following facts. The House of God has nine gates - Baab-e-Ibrahim (Abraham) , Baab-al-Wedaa, Baab-as-Safa, Baab-e-Ali, Baab-e-Abbas, Baab-un-Nabi, Baab-as-Salaam, Baab-az-Ziyarat, and Baab-e-Haram. Further, the eight circuits are the natural lines enclosing the areas between the surrounding hills, the names of which are: Jabal-e-Khaleej, Jabal-e-Qaiqaon, Jabal-e-Hindi, Jabal-e-Laalaa, Jabal-e-Keda, Jabal-e-Abu Hadidah, Jabal-e-Abi Qabees, and Jabal-e-Umar.

Atharva Veda X, 2, 33: [On Abraham and more on Holy Sanctuary and Ka’bah]

Brahma (Abraham) stayed in this abode which is illumined by heavenly light and covered with Divine blessings. It is the place that gives (spiritual) life to the people and is unconquerable.

The Ka’bah was built by Prophets Abraham and Ismail. It has remained unconquerable as explained in the preceding verse. Many verses of the Holy Qur’an and of the Old Testament in the Bible describe the divine blessings in this Holy house.

Prophecy In Sama Veda

The Sama Veda contains many prophecies of the advent of Prophet Mohammad. Here, one of them is presented. It is found in Sama Veda, II:6,8:

"Ahmad acquired religious law (Shariah) from his Lord. This religious law is full of wisdom. I receive light from him just as from the sun."

Prophet Muhammad’s other name was Ahmad (both are from root letters h, m and d), both words have the meaning the “praised one” except the latter emphasizes a higher degree to it. The Holy Qur’an states that Prophet ‘Isa (Jesus, pbuh) mentioned the last Prophet’s name as Ahmad.

Prophecy In Rig Veda

Rig Veda V, 27, 1:

The wagon-possessor, the truthful and truth-loving, extremely wise, powerful and generous, Mamah [Mohammad] has favored me with his words. The son of the All-powerful, possessing all good attributes, the mercy for the worlds has become famous with ten thousand [companions].

It refers to ten thousand companions who accompanied the Prophet in the triumphant entry of Makkah and cleansing of Ka’bah of Idols and other profanities.

More Prophecies In Hindu Scriptures

The Vedas contain many prophecies about Prophet Muhammad. Some European and Hindu translators of the Vedas have removed the name referring to the Prophet, while others have tried to explain away the mantras (verses) on his life events, Ka’bah, Makkah, Medinah, Arabia, and other events using the terminology of the Hindus, such as purification rituals, and lands and rivers in India. Some mantras containing prophecies are inter-mixed with explanatory phrases, and it may be that these were commentaries and explanatory notes on the prophecies, which later became a part of the prophecy.

Several prophecies are found in Atharva Veda: (1) XX: 21, Mantras 6, 7, and 9, (2) XX: 137, Mantras 7 through 9, and (3) X: 2, Mantras 26, 27, 29, 30, and 32. Similarly, in Rig Veda, additional prophecies are found in: (1) VII: 96, Mantras 13 through 16, and (2) I: 53, Mantras 6 and 9. Finally, a prophecy is found in Sama Veda III: 10, Mantra 1. These are a sample of many prophecies. The serious reader may want to refer to scholarly work of Dr. A.H. Vidyarthi, entitled “Mohammad in World Scriptures,” 1990. This book explains the Hindu terminology used in the Mantras and the meaning and usage of certain words and phrases from within the Vedas and other Hindu Scriptures.

July 2, 2003

Brother what the hack you know about Allah

Allah ends with "H" and there is a rule in arabic whether a person is he she or it we have to say it Him even if it is a thing other wise Allah is pure withou having any sort of extras like Ram Radha or any one you may call who have lust

Qur'an 2:256

There is no compulsion in religion.

The right direction is henceforth distinct from error.

And he who rejecteth false deities and believeth in Allah hath grasped a firm handhold which will never break.

Allah is Hearer, Knower.

Govindaram · July 2, 2003

HK

You say you can fill 'our' room,

well we can fill your 'room*' as well,

care to give out your url?*

*we will get back to you on that one, goodbye

2:190 Fight in the cause of Allah those who fight you, but do not transgress limits; for Allah loveth not transgressors.

July 2, 2003

If Mohammed is indeed the incarnation of Krsna called Kalki, then Mohammed is Krsna. Will you now finally worship Sri Krsna? No, you are still too envious of God, and you are liars and cheats with no integrity.

Allah may be God, but you have no idea who He is. It would be better for you to find out who He is, rather than waste your time offending Him here.

But of course, you only use religion to vent your uncontrollable anger resulting from uncontrollable lust. Your religion is good for you, but we require Krsna in all His glory, not some watered-down version of Him fashioned for those who are too envious to appreciate His true Self.

gHari

July 2, 2003

CONCEPT OF GOD IN HINDUISM

The most popular amongst the Aryan religion is Hinduism

1. Common concept of God in Hinduism:

If you ask a common Hindu that how many Gods he believe in, some may say three some may say thirty three, some may say a thousand while some may say thirty three crore i.e. 330 millions. But if you ask this question to a Hindu learned man who is well Versed with the Hindu scriptures, he will reply that the Hindu should actually believe and worship only one God.

2. Difference between Islam and Hinduism is ‘s’

(Everything is ‘God’s’ - everything is ‘God’):

The major difference between the Hindu and the Muslim is that the common Hindu believes in philosophy of Pantheism i.e. everything is God, the tree is God, the sun is God, the moon is God, the snake is God, the monkey is God, the human being is God.

The Muslims believe that everything is God’s. God with and apostrophe ‘s’. Everything belongs to God, the tree belongs to God, the sun belongs to God, the moon belongs to God, monkey belongs to God, the human being belongs to God.

Thus the major difference between the Hindus and the Muslims is the apostrophe ‘s’. The Hindu says everything is God. The Muslim says everything is God’s, God with an apostrophe ‘s’. If we can solve the difference of the apostrophe ‘s’, the Hindus and the Muslims will be united.

The Holy Qur’an says, “Come to common terms as between us and you”, which is the first term? “That we worship none but Allah”, so lets come to common terms by analyzing the scripture of the Hindus and the Muslim.

3. Bhagwad Geeta 7:20

The most popular amongst all the Hindu scriptures is the Bhagwad Geeta. Bhagwad Geeta mentions in Chapter 7, Verse 20, “Those whose intelligence has been stolen by material desires worship demigods” that is “Those who are materialistic, they worship demigods” i.e. besides the true God.

4. Upanishad

Upanishad are also one of the sacred scriptures of the Hindus.

a) (i) Chandogya Upanishad, Chapter 6, Section 2, Verse 1

It is mentioned in the Chandogya Upanishad, Prapathaka(Chapter) 6, Khanda(Section)2, Shloka(Verse) “Ekam evaditiyam”, “He is one only without a second”.

The principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan, page 447 and 448(sacred books of the east Volume 1 the Upanishads, part I, page 93)

a) (ii) Similar to what is mentioned in the Holy Qur’an in Surah Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 1, “Say he is Allah one and only”.

b) (i) Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 6, Verse 9

It is mentioned in the Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 6, Shloka(Verse) 9, “Na casya kascij janita na cadhipah” “Of him there is neither parents nor lord”.

“na tasya kascit patir asti loke, na cesita naiva ca tasya lingam, na karanam karanadhipadhipo na casya kascij janita na cadhipah”.

“Of him there is no master in the world, no ruler, nor is there any mark of him. He is the cause, the lord of the lords of the sense organs; of him there is neither progenitor nor lord”.

(The principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 745 and in sacred books of the east Volume 15, the Upanishads, part II, page 263)

b) (ii) Similar message is given in Holy Qur’an in Surah Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 3,

“He begets not, nor is he begotten”.

c) (i) In Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 4, Verse 19

It is mentioned in Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 4, Shloka(Verse) 19,

“Na tasya pratima asti” “There is no likeness of him”.

“nainam urdhvam na tiryancam na madhye na parijagrabhat na tasya pratima asti yasya nama mahad yasah” “There is no likeness of him whose name is great glory”.

(The principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 736 & 737 and in sacred books of the east Volume 15, the Upanishad, part II, page 253)

c) (ii) Similar message is given in the Holy Qur’an in Surah Ikhlas, Chapter 112, Verse 4,

“And there is none like unto him”.

c) (iii) Surah Shura, Chapter 42, Verse 11 and also in Surah Shura, Chapter 42, Verse 11,

“There is nothing whatever like unto him”.

d) (i) In Svetasvatara Upanishad, Chapter 4, Verse 20

It is mentioned in Svetasvatara Upanishad, Adhyaya(Chapter) 4, Shloka(Verse) 20,

“na samdrse tishati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam” “his form cannot be seen, no one sees him with the eye”

“nasamdrse tishati rupam asya, na caksusa pasyati kas canainam. Hrda hrdistham manasa ya enam, evam vidur amrtas te bhavanti”

“His form is not to be seen; no one sees him with the eye. Those who through heart and mind know him as abiding in the heart become immortal”.

(The principal Upanishad by S. Radhakrishnan page 737 & in sacred books of the east Volume 15, the Upanishad part II, page 253)

e) (ii) Similar message is given in the Holy Qur’an in Surah Anam, Chapter 6, Verse 103,

“No vision can grasp him. But his grasp is over all vision: he is above all comprehension, yet is acquainted with all things”.

5. Yajurveda

Vedas are the most sacred amongst all the Hindu scriptures, there are principally 4 Vedas, Rigved, Yajurved, Samved and Atharvaved.

a) Yajurveda, Chapter 32, Verse 3

It is mentioned in Yajurved, Chapter 32, Verse 3

“na tasya pratima asti” “There is no image of Him”

It further says as “He is unborn, He deserves our worship”

“There is no image of him whose glory verily is great. He sustains within himself all luminous objects like the sun etc. may he not harm me, this is my prayer. As he is unborn, he deserves our worship”.

(The Yajurveda by Devi Chand M.A. page 377)

b) Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 8

It is mentioned in Yajurved, Chapter 40, Verse 8, “He is body less and pure”

“He hath attained unto the bright, bodiless, woundless, sinewless, the pure which evil hath not pierced. Far-sighted wise, encompassing, he self existent hath prescribed aims as propriety demands unto the everlasting years”

(Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph I.H. Griffith page 538)

c) Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 9

It is mentioned in Yajurved, Chapter 40, Verse 9

“Andhatma pravishanti ye asambhuti mupaste”

“They enter darkness, those who worship natural things” For e.g. air, water, fire etc.

It further continues and says, “They sink deeper in darkness those who worship Sambhuti i.e. created things”, For example table, chair, idol etc.

“Deep into shade of blinding gloom fall asambhuti’s worshippers. They sink to darkness deeper yet who on sambhuti are intent”

(Yajurveda Samhita by Ralph T.H. Griffith page 538)

6. Atharvaveda

a) (i) Atharvaveda, Book 20, Hymn (Chapter) 58, Verse 3

It is mentioned in Atharvaveda, Book 20, Hymn (Chapter) 58, Verse 3

“Dev maha osi” “God is verily great”

“Verily, surya, thou art great; truly, aditya, thou art great. As thou art great indeed thy greatness is admired: yea, verily, great art thou, O God”

(Atharvaveda Samhiti Volume 2, William Dwight Whitney page 910)

a) (ii) Surah Rad, Chapter 13, Verse 9

A similar message is given in Qur’an Surah Rad, Chapter 13, Verse 9,

“He is the Great, the most High.”

7. Rigveda

The most oldest and sacred amongst all the Vedas is Rigveda.

a) Rigveda, Book No.1, Hymn No. 164, Verse 46

It is mentioned in Rigveda Book no.1, Hymn no.164 Verse 46

“Sages (learned Priest) call one God by many names”

“They have styled (Him, God or the sun) indra (the resplendent), mitra (the surveyor), varuna (the venerable), agni (the adorable), and he is the celestial, well-winged garutmat (the great), for learned priests call one by many names as they speak of the adorable as yama (ordainer) and matarisvan (cosmic breath)”.

b) (i) Rigveda, Book 2, Hymn 1

Rigveda gives no less than 33 different attributes to Almighty God several of these attributes are mentioned in Rigveda, Book 2, Hymn 1

b) (ii) Brahma - Creator - Khaliq, Rigveda Book 2, Hymn 1, Verse 3

Amongst the various attributes given in Rigveda one of the beautiful attributes for Almighty God is ‘Brahma’. ‘Brahma’ means ‘the creator’. If you translate into Arabic it means ‘Khaliq’. We Muslims have got no objection if you call Almighty God a ‘Khaliq’ or ‘Creator’ or ‘Brahma’ but if someone says that ‘Brahma’ is Almighty God who has got 4 heads and on each head is a crown and he has got 4 hands. We Muslims take strong except to it because you are giving an image to Almighty God. Moreover you are going against Yajurveda, Chapter 32, Verse 3, which says,

“Na tasya pratima asti” ‘”There is no image of him”

b) (iii) Vishnu - Sustainer - Rabb: Rigveda, Book II, Hymn 1, Verse 3

Another beautiful attribute mentioned in the Rigveda, Book II, Hymn 1, Verse 3, is Vishnu, ‘Vishnu’ means ‘the Sustainer’. If you translate into Arabic it means ‘Rabb’, we Muslims have no objection if anyone call Almighty God as ‘Rabb’ or ‘Sustainer’ or ‘Vishnu’ but if someone says Vishnu is Almighty God who has got 4 arms. One of the right arm holding the ‘Chakra’ i.e. a discus and one of the left arms holding a ‘Conch shell’ and he is riding on a bird or reclining on a snake couch. We Muslims take strong exception to this, because you are giving an image to Almighty God. Moreover you are going against Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 8.

c) Rigveda, Book 8, Hymn 1, Verse 1

It is mentioned in Rigveda, Book 8, Hymn 1, Verse 1

“Ma Chidanyadia Shansata”

“Do not worship anybody but Him, the divine one Praise Him alone”

“Ma cid anyad vi sansata sakhayo ma rishanyata in dram it stota vrishanam saca sute muhaur uktha ca sansata”.

“O friends, do not worship anybody but Him, the divine one. Let no grief perturb you. Praise Him alone, the radiant, the showerer of benefits. During the course of self-realization, go on repeatedly uttering Hymns in His honour”.

(Rigveda Samhiti, Volume IX, page 1 and 2 by Swami Satyaprakash Sarasvati and Satyakam Vidhya Lankar)

d) (i) Rigveda, Book 5, Hymn 81, Verse 1

It is mentioned in Rigveda, Book 5, Hymn 81, Verse 1,

“Verily great is the glory of the divine creator”

(Rigveda Samhiti, Volume 6, page 1802 and 1803 by Swami Satya Prakash Saraswati and Satyakam Vidhyalanka)

d) (ii) Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 2

Similar message is given in the Holy Qur’an In Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 2,

“Praise be to Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds”.

e) (i) Rigveda, Book 3, Hymn 34, Verse 1

It is mentioned in Rigveda, Book 3, Hymn 34, Verse 1

“The bounteous giver”

(Hymns of Rigveda, Volume 2, page 377, by Ralph T.H. Griffith)

e) (ii) Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 3

Same as Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 3, “Most Gracious, most merciful”

f) (i) Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 160

It is mentioned in Yajurveda, Chapter 40, Verse 16

“Lead us to the good path and remove the sin that makes us stray and wonder”

“By goodly path lead us to riches, Agni, thou God who knowest all our works and wisdom. Remove the sin that makes us astray and wander: most ample adoration will we bring thee”

(The Yajurveda Samhiti by Ralph T.H Griffith Page 541)

f) (ii) Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 6 and 7

Similar message is given in Surah Fateha, Chapter 1, Verse 6 and 7

“Show us the straight way, the way of those on whom thou has bestowed thy grace, those whose (portion) is not wrath. And who go not astray”.

g) Rigveda, Book No VI, Hymn 45, Verse 16

It is mentioned in Rigveda, Book VI, Hymn 45, Verse 16

“Ya eka ittamushtuhi”

“Praize Him who is the matchless and alone.”

(Hymns of Rigveda by Ralph T.H. Griffith page 648)

8. Brahma Sutra of Hindu Vedanta

The Brahma Sutra of Hindu Vedanta is:

“Ekam Brahm, dvitiya naste nen na naste kinchan”

“Bhagwan ek hi hai dusara nahi hai, nahi hain nahi hai zara bhi nahi hai.”

“There is only one God, not the second, not at all, not in the least bit.”

Therefore only if you read the Hindu Scripture will you understand the correct concept of God in Hinduism.

July 2, 2003

I challenge to you, your own scholars are in problems regarding this .Zakir Naik asked why dont you correct your people ,he scholar replied that he cannot!

July 2, 2003

I challenge to you, your own scholars are in problems regarding this .Zakir Naik asked why dont you correct your people ,he scholar replied that he cannot!

as far as Muhammad is concerned he never claimed to be God but preached God's onness like your messengers did!

I_love_krishna_ · July 2, 2003

The Muslim who has come here, has come here for one purpose, and that is to bash Hinduism.

For example, One kid says icecream is cold, the other kid argues that the ice cream is not cold.

You bring the ice cream and stick her hand in it, still the kid argues icecream is not cold.

its stupid.

July 2, 2003

Was it not true?You not only denied us but you insulted Muhammad and Allah your very own God of your own religion so be you among those who are in shame.Surely the wrath of Allah will sieze you all who insulted us and them and then for you is the most grievious chastisement in here after cos you denied us as well as your own!

Remember my Words! the wrath will surely sieze you!and it will come from a direction from where you will not perciev but a little. Is it not the truth that you denied?

Govindaram · July 2, 2003

HK

Remember my Words! the wrath will surely sieze you!and it will come from a direction from where you will not perciev but a little. Is it not the truth that you denied?

Fear/Wrath/Hell/.....Haribol! /images/graemlins/smirk.gif

gHari · July 3, 2003

There can be only one, by definition. This is confirmed in the highest religious text, the Sri Caitanya-caritamrita Madhya-Lila 9.155-162:<blockquote><center>eka Izvara----bhaktera dhyAna-anurUpa

eka-i vigrahe kare nAnAkAra rUpa

</center>

eka Izvara--the Lord is one; bhaktera--of the devotees; dhyAna--meditation; anurUpa--according to; eka-i--one; vigrahe--in form; kare--exhibits; nAnA-AkAra--different; rUpa--forms.

"There is no difference between the transcendental forms of the Lord. Different forms are manifested due to different attachments of different devotees. Actually the Lord is one, but He appears in different forms just to satisfy His devotees.

<blockquote>PURPORT

In the Brahma-saMhitA (5.33) it is stated:

advaitam acyutam anAdim ananta-rUpam

AdyaM purANa-puruSaM nava-yauvanaM ca

</center>

The Lord is advaita, without differentiation. There is no difference between the forms of KRSNa, RAma, NArAyaNa and ViSNu. All of them are one. Sometimes foolish people ask whether when we chant "RAma" in the Hare KRSNa mantra we refer to Lord RAmacandra or Lord BalarAma. If a devotee says that the name RAma in the Hare KRSNa mahA-mantra refers to BalarAma, a foolish person may become angry because to him the name RAma refers to Lord RAmacandra. Actually there is no difference between BalarAma and Lord RAma. It does not matter whether one refers to BalarAma or to Lord RAmacandra when chanting Hare RAma, for there is no difference between Them. However, it is offensive to think that BalarAma is superior to Lord RAmacandra or vice versa. Neophyte devotees do not understand this zAstric conclusion, and consequently they unnecessarily create an offensive situation. In text 154 SrI Caitanya MahAprabhu clarified this in a very lucid way: Izvaratve bheda mAnile haya aparAdha. "It is offensive for one to differentiate between the forms of the Lord." On the other hand, one should not think that the forms of the Lord are the same as the forms of the demigods. This is certainly offensive, as confirmed by the VaiSNava-tantra:

yas tu nArAyaNaM devaM brahma-rudrAdi-daivataiH

samatvenaiva vIkSeta sa pASaNDI bhaved dhruvam

</center>

"A pASaNDI is one who considers the great demigods such as Lord BrahmA and Lord Siva equal to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, NArAyaNa." (Hari-bhakti-vilAsa 7.117)

The conclusion is that we should neither differentiate between the forms of the Lord nor equate the forms of the Lord with the forms of demigods or human beings. For instance, sometimes foolish sannyAsIs, thinking the body of the Lord to be material, equate daridra-nArAyaNa with NArAyaNa, and this is certainly offensive. Unless one is instructed by a bona fide spiritual master, he cannot perfectly understand these different forms. The Brahma-saMhitA confirms, vedeSu durlabham adurlabham Atma-bhaktau [bs. 5.33]. One cannot understand the differences between the forms of the Lord simply by academic study or by reading Vedic literature. One must learn from a realized devotee. Only then can one learn how to distinguish between one form of the Lord and another. The conclusion is that there is no difference between the forms of the Lord, but there is a difference between His forms and those of the demigods.</blockquote>

maNir yathA vibhAgena

nIla-pItAdibhir yutaH

rUpa-bhedam avApnoti

dhyAna-bhedAt tathAcyutaH

</center>

maNiH--jewel, specifically the jewel known as vaidUrya; yathA--as; vibhAgena--separately; nIla--blue; pIta--yellow; AdibhiH--and with other colors; yutaH--joined; rUpa-bhedam--difference of form; avApnoti--gets; dhyAna-bhedAt--by different types of meditation; tathA--similarly; acyutaH--the infallible Supreme Personality of Godhead.

"‘When the jewel known as vaidUrya touches various other materials, it appears to be separated into different colors, and consequently its forms also appear different. Similarly, according to the meditational ecstasy of the devotee, the Lord, who is known as Acyuta ["the infallible one"], appears in different forms, although He is essentially one.'"

<blockquote>PURPORT

This is a verse quoted from SrI NArada-paJcarAtra.</blockquote>

bhaTTa kahe,----kAhAG Ami jIva pAmara

kAhAG tumi sei kRSNa,----sAkSAt Izvara

</center>

bhaTTa kahe--VeGkaTa BhaTTa said; kAhAG--whereas; Ami--I; jIva--an ordinary living being; pAmara--fallen; kAhAG--whereas; tumi--You; sei kRSNa--the same Supreme Personality of Godhead, KRSNa; sAkSAt Izvara--directly the Lord.

VeGkaTa BhaTTa then said, "I am an ordinary fallen living entity, but You are KRSNa, the Supreme Personality of Godhead Himself.

agAdha Izvara-lIlA kichui nA jAni

tumi yei kaha, sei satya kari' mAni

</center>

agAdha--unfathomable; Izvara-lIlA--pastimes of the Lord; kichui--anything; nA jAni--I do not know; tumi--You; yei--whatever; kaha--say; sei satya--that is right; kari' mAni--I accept.

"The transcendental pastimes of the Lord are unfathomable, and I do not know anything about them. Whatever You say I accept as the truth.

<blockquote>PURPORT

This is the way to understand the truth about the Supreme Personality of Godhead. After hearing the Bhagavad-gItA, Arjuna said very much the same thing:

sarvam etad RtaM manye yan mAM vadasi kezava

na hi te bhagavan vyaktiM vidur devA na dAnavAH

</center>

"O KRSNa, I totally accept as truth all that You have told me. Neither the demigods nor the demons, O Lord, can understand Your personality." (Bg. 10.14)

It is not possible to understand the truth about the pastimes of the Lord simply by using our own logic, argument and academic education. We must receive bona fide information from the Supreme Personality of Godhead, just as Arjuna received information when KRSNa spoke the Bhagavad-gItA. We have to accept the Bhagavad-gItA or any other Vedic literature in good faith. These Vedic literatures are the only source of knowledge about the Lord. We must understand that we cannot comprehend the Absolute Truth by the speculative process.</blockquote>

more pUrNa kRpA kaila lakSmI-nArAyaNa

tAGra kRpAya pAinu tomAra caraNa-darazana

</center>

more--unto me; pUrNa--complete; kRpA--mercy; kaila--did; lakSmI-nArAyaNa--the Deity of mother goddess of fortune and NArAyaNa; tAGra kRpAya--by Their mercy; pAinu--I have gotten; tomAra--Your; caraNa-darazana--vision of the lotus feet.

"I have been engaged in the service of LakSmI-NArAyaNa, and it is due to Their mercy that I have been able to see Your lotus feet.

kRpA kari' kahile more kRSNera mahimA

yAGra rUpa-guNaizvaryera keha nA pAya sImA

</CENTER>

kRpA kari'--showing causeless mercy; kahile--You have spoken; more--unto me; kRSNera--of Lord KRSNa; mahimA--the glories; yAGra--whose; rUpa-guNa-aizvaryera--of forms, qualities and opulence; keha--anyone; nA--not; pAya--gets; sImA--the limit.

"Out of Your causeless mercy You have told me of the glories of Lord KRSNa. No one can reach the end of the opulence, qualities and forms of the Lord.

ebe se jAninu kRSNa-bhakti sarvopari

kRtArtha karile, more kahile kRpA kari'

</CENTER>

ebe--now; se--that; jAninu--I understand; kRSNa-bhakti--devotional service to Lord KRSNa; sarva-upari--above all; kRta-artha--successful; karile--You have made; more--unto me; kahile--You have spoken; kRpA kari'--by Your causeless mercy.

"I can now understand that devotional service unto Lord KRSNa is the supreme form of worship. Out of Your causeless mercy You have made my life successful simply by explaining the facts."

eta bali' bhaTTa paDilA prabhura caraNe

kRpA kari' prabhu tAGre kailA AliGgane

</CENTER>

eta bali'--saying this; bhaTTa--VeGkaTa BhaTTa; paDilA--fell down; prabhura caraNe--at the lotus feet of the Lord; kRpA kari'--showing him mercy; prabhu--Lord SrI Caitanya MahAprabhu; tAGre--unto him; kailA--did; AliGgane--embracing.

After saying this, VeGkaTa BhaTTa fell down before the lotus feet of the Lord, and the Lord, out of His causeless mercy, embraced him.</blockquote>

gHari

July 3, 2003

You see it just doesnt make up.

one place your book says God has no form ,he is light, and the fools worship demi gods and then suddenly he appears in human form and tells i am God and fools deride me so in order to confirm the person who came is god must have characteristics of God he must be light no one has seen him before ,he should not be worshipped in idol form and the most important thing that he should not be like any one so the pictures you show of your sacred peoples just look like human biengs. i ask you even if he comes in human form so how can we recognize him since many people on earth claim that they are god .do you know about what Pharoah said? he said i am your god and there is none else than me and see what happened jews scriptures says he was drowned by God because of his false hood Christian scripture states that (before birth of Christ) so it is confirmed God destroyed Pharoah not Jesus was present at that time and at last Quran of muslims state that and its a confirmed fact and not only that Quran said that on this day we will preserve you that you shall be a reminder to whole world for what you said and 200 years ago Pharoahs body was found in river nile which is indeed a solid miracle and those who found were non muslims so you see how God takes revenge who falsely claim godhood but Ram or Krishna were not destroyed so it is very likely that they were given Power ,Authority and Miracles.yet there people might have taken them as god the perspective from where i see is universal ,there are about total 7 books which claim oneness of God and claims there is nothing like unto him so when these much scriptures claim that your God is like nothing on heavens and the earth so it is very unlikely that only to hindus came god in human form and that was several years before.i think they should again come now because hindus have forgotten their images.

and i didnt hear any thing in your books that Ram Krishna created something in their whole presence.God is one is in your books then he must be the cause of creation but they doesnt mention any thing they created with their power.

July 3, 2003

Muhammad and his followers were in little doubt about God because islam was a strange religion and claimed oneness of god while there were 301 idols alone in the Kabah Mekkah

so Allah revieled to remove their doubts

An Nahl

43 And before thee also the apostles We sent were but men to whom We granted inspiration: if ye realize this not ask of those who possess the Message.

44 (We sent them) with Clear Signs and Books of dark prophecies; and We have sent down unto thee (also) the Message; that thou mayest explain clearly to men what is sent for them and that they may give thought.

July 3, 2003

except Islam except few claim there are more than one God together with oneness of God however the message which was given to Muhammad is powerful enough that even today every one is expecting a new miracle inside Quran cos time to time miracles over miracles revieled in these last two centuries but he never claimed godhood and Budha never claimed godhood Jesus never claimed godhood(look at their every bible)Moses never claimed godhood so according to theory of theory of probability the most best Answer is that there is only one God.

Ask Jews that they are strictly prohibited to make pictures of God and christianity is a part of Judaism and they also not besides Jesus and Mary and Muslims stricly prohibited and Hindu scriptures claims materialistic people worship demi gods so the most best answer according to maths is there is no image of God even if it is it is strictly prohibited to make his likeness.

July 3, 2003

gog magog yajuj majuj or kok bikok

they are the same

according to Quran Zul Qurnain(translators claim Alexendre) made a large block of melted metals in order to block these people(these are not two but a whole race of generation)and he said after making it that when the promise of my lord will come to pass it will become an open escape to them.

Prophet Muhammad gave clear prophecies that when it would happen

first of all lesser signs will apear and then greater signs

the lesser signs are:_

[5459]Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, "By Him in Whose hand my soul is, the last hour will not come before wild beasts speak to men, the end of a man's whip and the thong of his sandal speak to him, and his thigh informs him what his family have done since he left them."

(Television first and other talking devices,Ordinary telephone connected to wire it is very important that it is indeed end of the telephone which speaks! third one i dont know,i understand may be ear or headphones or mobile phones as mobiles always have a opening(transparent section LCD Screen) ,and the last one is probably laptop or tablet pc or pager)

[2.146]The Prophet said, "The Hour (Last Day) will not be established until (religious) knowledge will be taken away (by the death of religious learned men), earthquakes will be very frequent, time will pass quickly, afflictions will appear, murders will increase and money will overflow amongst you."

(thats all happening and specially the arabs became rich because of oil)

[5448]Allah's Messenger (peace be upon him) said, "The last hour will not come before time contracts, a year being like a month, a month like a week, a week like a day, a day like an hour, and an hour like the kindling of a fire."

(letters then telegrams then tcs or dhl then Internet via telephone then broadband match this hadith)

[4.787]The Prophet said, "The Hour will not be established till you fight a nation wearing hairy shoes, and till you fight the Turks, who will have small eyes, red faces and flat noses; and their faces will be like flat shields. And you will find that the best people are those who hate responsibility of ruling most of all till they are chosen to be the rulers. And the people are of different natures: The best in the pre-Islamic period are the best in Islam. A time will come when any of you will love to see me rather than to have his family and property doubled."

[1]ell me some of its indications. He (the Holy Prophet) said: That the slave-girl will give birth to her mistress and master, that you will find barefooted, destitute goat-herds vying with one another in the construction of magnificent buildings. He (the narrator, Umar ibn al-Khattab) said: Then he (the inquirer) went on his way but I stayed with him (the Holy Prophet) for a long while. He then, said to me: Umar, do you know who this inquirer was? I replied: Allah and His Apostle knows best. He (the Holy Prophet) remarked: He was Gabriel (the angel). He came to you in order to instruct you in matters of religion.

(as you know the construction of todays buildings is the most best of designs tall architecture)

[9.237]Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established (1) till two big groups fight each other whereupon there will be a great number of casualties on both sides and they will be following one and the same religious doctrine, (2) till about thirty Dajjals (liars) appear, and each one of them will claim that he is Allah's Apostle, (3) till the religious knowledge is taken away (by the death of religious scholars) (4) earthquakes will increase in number (5) time will pass quickly, (6) afflictions will appear, (7) Al-Harj, (i.e., killing) will increase, (8) till wealth will be in abundance--so abundant that a wealthy person will worry lest nobody should accept his Zakat, and whenever he will present it to someone, that person (to whom it will be offered) will say, 'I am not in need of it,' (9) till the people compete with one another in constructing high buildings, (10) till a man when passing by a grave of someone will say, 'Would that I were in his place,' (11) and till the sun rises from the West. So when the sun will rise and the people will see it (rising from the West) they will all believe (embrace Islam) but that will be the time when: (As Allah said,) 'No good will it do to a soul to believe then, if it believed not before, nor earned good (by deeds of righteousness) through its Faith.' (6.158) And the Hour will be established while two men spreading a garment in front of them but they will not be able to sell it, nor fold it up; and the Hour will be established when a man has milked his she-camel and has taken away the milk but he will not be able to drink it; and the Hour will be established before a man repairing a tank (for his livestock) is able to water (his animals) in it; and the Hour will be established when a person has raised a morsel (of food) to his mouth but will not be able to eat it."

there are more but these are the most prominent

Mahdi will be making an army against anti Christ(dajjal) then Jesus(Isa)pbuh will arive from heaven in two piece clothes died with safron with two Angels one at right and one at left.and antichrist will attract all the jews and jews will be thinking that he is God but actually he will not be and they will be all together but when Jesus with Muslims will come to them Anti christ will be dissolved like salt in water but Jesus will say you cannot cos It is that i will kill you so Jesus will kill him with his sword and then order will be to kill all the jews since they claim that they killed Jesus and nighther accepted him. He will address the whole christians(may be on TV) about oneness of God and they will all be witnesses over this then it would be inspired by God to Jesus pbuh that Gog and Magog are free they will kill all and make havok on the world and Jesus and his army will take shelter in a mountain but no one will be able to kill them but they will die themselves by insects in their bodies.

(perfectly stated you can check Muslim Books)

gHari · July 4, 2003

The idols of the desert Caanans, Baals and Malakites cannot be equated to the authorized arca-vigraha forms of God found in India. This would be very offensive. Krsna Himself admires these incarnations of His mercy.

You will not have time to understand all the knowledge of God given in the Vedas. It is best not to pretend to know, because one only looks very foolish and insincere with such comments. Frankly, all other scriptures are trivial by comparison. This does not mean that other scriptures are not meaningful, just not as comprehensive.

When we approach a mountain, first we see a mountain peak from a great distance. As we get closer we can see some trees around the base of the mountain. But when we actually get to the mountain we can see little houses and people that live at the base of the mountain. In each case we are looking at the mountain, describing the mountain, but the closer we get the more detail we can see.

It is the same with God. When you are an old man, you will realize how much more you know about Allah than now. You will be closer. It is this reason that scriptures say that Krsna is realized in three phases, the first of which is the impersonal light, or the brilliant effulgence of His spiritual body. As we get closer we can understand that Krsna is in the hearts of all living entities as the guide. Finally, after following the inner dictates of God in the heart one comes to Sri Krsna, the Personality of Godhead. We surrender to the will of God in the heart, and He leads us to His original Self, after helping us vanquish our lust and nonsense desires.

Remembering and singing and hearing Allah's name will help you overcome lust and anger and greed, and eventually you will come closer and closer to the mountain. We have a saying in the west: Bring the mountain to Mohammed.

gHari

July 5, 2003

I cannot understand why you mooslims are here writing and flooding this whole discussion with irrational .. You are mentally disturbed. Please do not return here until you deprogramme yourself from your mullah's teachings.

The verse in he quran clearly says that you shall not have sex with married women except those slaves whom you own. The Hdiths are absolutely clear about this. That is why one of the senseless followers of Mr. Mo asked whether he can do Al Azl and Mo gladly authorized it without even asking whether the captured slave women permitted it.

July 5, 2003

Its got nothing to do with spirituality. Islam started with politics and violence unlike other religions. Its still based on violence and materialism. Even the prophet had to lure the followers to violence and conquering other religions with materialism, even when they go to heaven - 72 virgins and all that. Disgusting!!!

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