I've converted to Islam!

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Here is more why Islam is a religion of terrorism:

 

According to the FBI, the definition of terrorism is:

 

"Terrorism is the unlawful use of force or violence against persons or

property to intimidate or coerce a government, the civilian population,

or any segment thereof, in furtherance of political or social objectives."

 

The religion of Islam fulfills each and every criteria of the

above-mentioned definition of terrorism. The following irrefutable facts

and deductive logic will amply demonstrate this statement. Ever since

Islam was founded it has left behind a legacy of violent atrocities and

horrible crimes. The holy book of the Muslims, the Koran, contains

specific instructions on how to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture

and murder in order to further the interests of Islam . It can clearly

be called a specific instruction manual of terrorism.

 

The Holy Koran is full of very unholy and terrorist ambitions, it is

obviously not from God, as the Muslims would have us believe. Any sane

individual can see that it is a journal and collection of a terrorist's

criminal activities and ideas. This terrorist's name is Mohammed

(popularly known as the prophet of Islam). During his lifetime, Mohammed

organized at least 86 expeditions against people who either refused to

follow his teachings or simply came in the way of his power crazed

ambitions. He led the life of a serial killer, terrorist and rapist, who

perpetrated genocide throughout Arabia. Along with the pagan Arabs, many

Jews and Christians were victims of this mindless terrorist. Mohammed

was a man who destroyed peace wherever he went, and in its place brought

terror, carnage and death. And he did all this in the name of God!

Mohammed has clearly stated in the Koran that God has instructed him and

all pious Muslims to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder

innocent human beings, in order to further the interests of Islam.

 

I have stated below just a few of the verses from the Koran, which

support this fact. As the Koran is supposed to be timeless and

universal, the verses in it hold true even today and are used everyday

by pious Muslims to justify their brutal and terrorist activities.

 

 

1. (Koran 8:12) "Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the

message): "I am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill

terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks

and smite all their finger tips of them."

 

In the above verse the great prophet of Islam, Mohammed, is giving step

by step instructions on how to torture and kill the unbelievers if they

don't follow Islam. He is clearly instructing Muslims to commit

cold-blooded murder in the name of religion.

 

2. (Koran 2:216) "Warfare is ordained for you, though it is hateful unto

you; but it may happen that you hate a thing which is good for you and

it may happen that you love a thing which is bad for you. Allah knoweth,

you knew not."

 

The above verse was stated by Mohammed after his first terrorist attack.

He and his followers mercilessly massacred four innocent and unarmed

merchants at Nakhla in 623 AD. The massacre came in January, the sacred

month of Rejeb. Arabs regard this month as a sacred month, when warfare

and violence is forbidden. Since this barbaric criminal act was led and

sanctioned by the "great" prophet Mohammed, we can conclude that Islam's

sacred activities include loot and cold-blooded murder of innocent

individuals. The very beginnings of Islam are stained with the blood of

innocents.

 

By stating the above verse, Mohammed completely absolved himself from

all blame for having murdered innocents. The most insidious and devilish

implication of this verse is that God is completely justifying

Mohammed's murder of the innocent Meccans. The import of this verse is

that killing and violence are JUSTIFIED for Muslims, because they are

doing it by divine ordinance! It is a religious duty of every Muslim to

murder anyone who comes in the way of Islam. Since it is also the duty

of every Muslim to ensure that the entire world is converted to Islam by

force if necessary, one must directly conclude that it is the religious

duty of Muslims to kill all those who are non-Muslim. This conclusion is

derived directly from the supreme edict of Allah, who admonishes that

even the Muslim who feels it is wrong to kill, must murder in the name

of Allah, otherwise he is not a true Muslim. Over and above this,

Mohammed is hypocritically implying that warfare is hateful to him, but

he participated in it because God ordained it.

 

3. (Koran 69:30-37) "It is not for any Prophet to have captives until he

hath made slaughter in the land. You desire the lure of this world and

Allah desires for you the hereafter and Allah is Mighty, Wise.. Now

enjoy what you have won as lawful and good and keep your duty to Allah.

Lo! Allah is forgiving, merciful."

 

This verse is in reference to the prisoners that Mohammed held for

ransom after the battle of Badr. This battle occurred on March 17, 623

AD. This is the month of Ramadan—another sacred month for the Muslims!

In this battle, Mohammed and his followers killed at least 70 innocent

merchants from the Quraysh tribe of Mecca and slaughtered several

hundred soldiers who came forward to defend them.

 

Here God the "Merciful" is saying that all the non-believers deserve to

be killed! In addition, God is conveniently commenting that whatever

loot Mohammed has plundered is "lawful and good" because it was done in

service to God. So murder, rape, plunder and destruction are all

perfectly legal with the Muslim God as long as they are done in the name

of Islam! Mohammed is also insidiously making himself seem very kind for

having spared the lives of the prisoners, when in fact he only let them

live so he could ransom their lives for more money. In today's world

this is called "taking hostages" and defines "Terrorism" of the worst

kind.

 

4. (Koran 69:30-37) "(It will be said) Take him and fetter him and

expose him to hell fire. And then insert him in a chain whereof the

length is seventy cubits. Lo! he used not to believe in God the

tremendous, and urged not on the feeding of the wretched. Therefore hath

he no lover hear this day nor any food save filth which none but sinners

eat."

 

The above verses from the Koran prove that Muslims are specifically

instructed not to tolerate unbelievers. It directly states that people

who do not believe in Mohammed and the Islamic God are to be tortured

and murdered.. Not only does this verse clearly implicate that

unbelievers must be tortured and killed, it goes on further to state

prescribed methods for committing torture. The horrific acts mentioned

above are in practice even today in Islamic countries. In fact, in

India, Muslims tortured the Sikh Gurus and their families exactly as

prescribed by the Koran. For example, the Sikh guru Tegh Bahadur was

imprisoned in a cage like a wild animal, when he refused to forsake his

religion for Islam. Three of his disciples were murdered in front of his

eyes. One of them was Bhai Mati Das. He was sawed alive into little

pieces. The other was wrapped up in cotton and burnt alive. Bhai Dyala,

the third one, was boiled alive in a cauldron. Guru Tegh Bahadur himself

was brutally tortured and killed in a similar fashion. One wonders at

the mercy of "The all beneficent Allah" who enjoys watching the roasted

burnt flesh of hapless innocents falling off their bones.

 

5. (Koran 5: 33-34) "The only reward of those who make war upon Allah

and His messenger and strive after corruption in the land will be that

they will be killed or crucified, or have their hands and feet and

alternate sides cut off, or will be expelled out of the land. Such will

be their degradation in the world, and in the Hereafter theirs will be

an awful doom; Save those who repent before ye overpower them. For know

that Allah is forgiving, merciful."

 

6. (Koran 22: 19-22) "These twain (the believers and the disbelievers)

are two opponents who contend concerning their Lord. But as for those

who disbelieve, garments of fire will be cut out for them, boiling fluid

will be poured down their heads. Whereby that which is in their bellies,

and their skins too, will be melted; And for them are hooked rods of

iron. Whenever, in their anguish, they would go forth from thence they

are driven back therein and (it is said unto them): Taste the doom of

burning."

 

7. (Koran 76: 4) "Lo! We have prepared for disbelievers chains, yokes

and a blazing fire."

 

The above verses clearly state extreme terrorist activities, as they

contain nothing but detailed recipes of horrific torture. Cutting off

the hands and feet of individuals and then making them walk and jump,

pouring boiling waters over their victims, making them drink it, burning

them alive, inserting hot iron rods into their bodies, dismemberment and

disembowelment, genital mutilation etc. are common Islamic practices.

 

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5) Islam believes in limited consumption and to use the rest of one's wealth for social service, unlike hindu/western values that believe in unlimited consumption.

 

The most idiotic approach Muslims have is from above concept.

 

Muslims believe God gives them provisions they need in life - which means whatever they have and got, it comes from God. This provisions are for the people to live a good life in harmony and to practise Islam. Fine ... this is acceptable.

 

Then Muhammad added that whatever Muslims got, they must give some to fanatics who will use it as resources to wage war against infidels. Which means, Muhammad overriden his own God's words by asking Muslims to donate what meant for Muslims to use (the provision) toward fueling conquests and war against Infidels.

 

Result - Proverty, strife, breakdown in society and order and also increase in warmongering which is seen as ways to get more provisions, which do not go to society alone but used to fuel war again.

 

Also, some Muslims (in another forum I'm active in) upset with me by saying that Jews (as well as other races) are rich and therefore should share their wealth with Muslims. I asked them back - WHY? And they say it (our wealth) because it belongs to God and withholding it from them is like we are greedy and not giving them what they deserve.

 

Does this make sense? We work, we strive, we succeed in life and we have to share it with them who do not strive, work or succeed in anything, all because they think everything we have belongs to them.

 

I told them - If they cannot strive and live, they can DIE for all I care.

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And he did all this in the name of God!

Mohammed has clearly stated in the Koran that God has instructed him and all pious Muslims to loot, pillage, plunder, rape, torture and murder innocent human beings, in order to further the interests of Islam.

 

All the Madmen throughout the history of the World have similar excuses - they proclaim they did something for sake of God. Charles Mason, Adolf Hitler, and such.

 

It is their way of justifying themselves and the society that they were innocent of the crimes they have commited by placing the blame toward others.

 

Bigger the crime, the bigger and higher the scapegoat is. And unfortunately, God is always the highest in scapegoat list since He won't answer back but silently watch.

 

Oh yes, did you know how Muhammad died? He was delusional and crying out for his wives and children at the end of his life when Death came for him. When Sri Krishna pass away, He closes His eyes and meditated. Same with Sri Rama, and even Buddha who consulted his students before leaving. But this man cried and mourn of pain of Death. This is God's example of best man on the Planet? I doubt it.

[Guest guest]

Why did all these Americans and others convert to Islam?? why Is ISLAM the FASTEST growing religion in the world if it is based on your narrow knowledge of it?? go to google and type the fastest growing religion in the world, and you will see yourself the result. Then you can search why are they all ignorant?? or am I myself ignorant??

this is a small list of the people who converted to islam:

Shabbetai Tzevi - seventeenth-century Turkish Jew who had claimed to be Messiah and attracted a large following. His conversion to Islam largely dissolved this mass messianic Jewish movement, but also resulted in the development of the ongoing Donmeh religious movement.

 

 

Michael Jackson - the "King of Pop," one of the century's most popular entertainers, formally joined the Nation of Islam on 17 Dec. 2003

Malcolm X - early leader of American "Black Muslim"/Nation of Islam movement; later a convert to Sunni Islam

 

Cat Stevens - British rock musician; changed name to Yusuf Islam

 

John Coltrane - prominent jazz saxophonist and composer

Art Blakey - American Jazz musician

 

Muhammad Ali - boxer

Matthew Saad Muhammad - world champion boxer (formerly Matt Franklin)

Dwight Muhammad Qawi - world champion boxer (formerly Dwight Braxton)

Eddie Mustapha Muhammad - world champion lightweight boxer (formerly Eddie Gregory)

Mustafa Hamsho - boxer

Akbar Muhammad - boxer

Mike Tyson - boxer

Hamdan Chris Eubank - boxer (super middleweight boxing champion)

 

Kareem Abdul-Jabbar - basketball player

 

Queen Noor - American-born queen of Jordan during reign of the late King Hussein I

 

Maryam Jameelah - Jewish American essayist and poet. Formerly Margaret Marcus.

 

Daniel Moore - Anglo-American poet

 

Muhammad Marmaduke (William) Pickthall - author and Quran translator

 

Michael Wolfe - author, journalist (The Hadj: An American's Pilgrimage to Mecca; One Thousand Roads to Mecca: Ten Centuries of Travelers Writing About the Muslim Pilgrimage; ABC Nightline documentary "An American in Mecca")

 

Aminah Assilmi - Denver area broadcast journalist; now director of the International Union of Muslim Women (former Baptist)

 

Pamela Taylor - science fiction author; Publications Officer of the Islamic Writers Alliance and co-chair of the Progressive Muslim Union

 

Jemima Goldsmith - daughter of British billionaire Sir James, who married Imran Khan. Changed name to Haiqa Khan.

 

Mumia Abu-Jamal - journalist, Black Panther, political activist, known for his 1982 conviction and death sentence on charges of a police officer, and for a nationally popular counter-culture campaign to free him

 

John Muhammad and John Malvo - infamous "Beltway Sniper" serial killers who terrorized Washington, D.C. area residents

 

 

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Why did all these Americans and others convert to Islam?? why Is ISLAM the FASTEST growing religion in the world if it is based on your narrow knowledge of it??

 

They are ignorant people, thus they choose the most ignorant religion they could find. Stop speaking about Americans as if they are saints. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

Americans have, in the past 60 years broke EVERY commands in the 10 Commandment of God, as brought to the People by Moses. They commit adultery, steal, invade and conquer, consume alcholol, murder the innocent in form of child abortion, make living in evil ways such as porns, cultivating and harvesting pigs and such. Latest addition - gay and lesbian marriage.

 

Christianity dying there and the people are choosing the most closest religion they could think of to substitute to Christianity - and that happened to be Islam.

 

Yeah, you can ask why they don't choose Judaism. Simple - Christians had been preaching that Jews are evil and killed their "god" for nearly 1,500 years.

 

To this men and women, they don't know the true nation of Islam. They are ignorant of the facts and history.

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I don't deny that there are extremists in every religion including Islam; however, Islam does not teach us to go and kill people.. Islam asks us to talk to people peacefully or otherwise we should not talk if we know our temper will get over us and be violent. we MUSLIMS should be PEACEFUL to every human being and not only that but also animals. I will tell you a story, there was a man who entered PARADISE because he gave water to a very thirsty DOG, and there was a woman who entered hell because she turtored a cat!! HOW can you imagine this peaceful religion that protects the life of every living creature, ask people to go and kill... God created us different and HE is able to change every one of us, muslims don't need to go out there and kill to change people... I swear I cry when I hear any terrorist attack because I know it's wrong and against religion the least I can do is feeling bad about whatever happens in the name of ISLAM which translates in Arabic to peace not submission as many people think..

this is what your great intellectual leader's opinion about Islam..He wrote that after he read about islam not out of ignorance.. hope you decide to do the same..coz you sounded closed minded when you said i don't need to read any more propaganda.. that's not propaganda..that's the truth about islam if of course you go to trustful websites who will teach you about islam like www.sultan.org not any website as we know anyone can write anything online now.. well this is Mahatma Ghandi's and Sarojini Naidu and Ramakrishna Rao quotes:

Mr. Mahatma Gandhi:

 

"Someone has said that Europeans in South Africa dread the advent Islam -- Islam that civilized Spain, Islam that took the torch light to Morocco and preached to the world the Gospel of brotherhood. The Europeans of South Africa dread the Advent of Islam. They may claim equality with the white races. They may well dread it, if brotherhood is a sin. If it is equality of colored races then their dread is well founded."

 

And in "Young India", he wrote:

 

"I wanted to know the best of one who holds today's undisputed sway over the hearts of millions of mankind....I became more than convinced that it was not the sword that won a place for Islam in those days in the scheme of life. It was the rigid simplicity, the utter self-effacement of the Prophet, the scrupulous regard for his pledges, his intense devotion to this friends and followers, his intrepidity, his fearlessness, his absolute trust in God and in his own mission. These and not the sword carried everything before them and surmounted every obstacle. When I closed the 2nd volume (of the Prophet's biography), I was sorry there was not more for me to read of the great life."

 

Miss. Sarojini Naidu, Poetess, in Ideals of Islam:

 

"It was the first religion that preached and practiced democracy; for in the mosque, when the minaret is sounded and the worshipers are gathered together, the democracy of Islam is embodied five times a day when the peasant and the king kneel side by side and proclaim, God alone is great." The great poetess of India continues, "I have been struck over and over again by this indivisible unity of Islam that makes a man instinctively a brother. When you meet an Egyptian, an Algerian and Indian and a Turk in London, it matters not that Egypt is the motherland of one and India is the motherland of another."

 

Prof. Ramakrishna Rao, in "Muhammad the Prophet of Islam":

 

"The personality of Muhammad, it is most difficult to get into the whole truth of it. Only a glimpse of it I can catch. What a dramatic succession of picturesque scenes! There is Muhammad, the Prophet. There is Muhammad, the Warrior; Muhammad, the Businessman; Muhammad, the Statesman; Muhammad, the Orator; Muhammad, the Reformer; Muhammad, the Refuge of Orphans; Muhammad, the Protector of Slaves; Muhammad, the Emancipator of Women; Muhammad, the Judge; Muhammad, the Saint. All in all these magnificent roles, in all these departments of human activities, he is alike a hero." ... Muhammad is the "Perfect model for human life."

 

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If you were born into a muslim family, it is Ok.Because you may have no choice but to submit to your comfort zone. I do not know much about Islam. As I understand it is "THE ONLY RELIGION" meaning there is absolutely NO FREEDOM. Every thing is according to law. This is very opposite of GRACE. Lack of freedom creates FEAR, not LOVE. In FEAR there is no tolerance, there is no creativity, there is no compassion. People do things like cowards. I know for sure you are scared and you have found some religious leader/s influencing your way of thinking. I pray God gives you the power to open up your heart and seek the understanding of His Grace not some simple Mercy word.

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{Why did all these Americans and others convert to Islam?? why Is ISLAM the FASTEST growing religion in the world}

 

Well these Americans who convert are nutty and some have no religion they follow until a muslims steps in and pushes their propaganda in their face, they fall for it. Muslims are the only people in the world who put so much effort into gaining converts and uses the media machine to push their propganda funded by saudi oil money.

But the REAL reason Islam is the fastest growing is that muslim parents have plenty of kids! This is true especially in the west as they believe that by having more kids there will be more muslims in the future and when they grow to a substantial number they have the power to take over the west and make it Islamic. All the muslim families I know of have 3 + kids, they usually go up beyond five.

 

By the way Michael Jackson is not a muslim convert and the Nation of Islam are not accepted as Muslims, in the same way that Sufi Pirs are not. Michael Jackson is a Jehovas witness follower.

 

{Mike Tyson - boxer}

 

Yeah after his conversion to Islam he tries to bite the ear off another boxer! Islam taught him well! Most of those boxers are dunce anyway, they can only fight like animals and can't use their brain.

 

You call those people intellectual? What's wrong with you!

 

{John Muhammad and John Malvo - infamous "Beltway Sniper" serial killers who terrorized Washington, D.C. area residents}

 

You admire those killers! Hmmm...That says alot about you! They must've been very good muslims to kill innocent people, following the tradition of their beloved prophet. And after all that trash, you still are trying to convince us that Islam is peaceful? This keeps getting funnier and funnier!

 

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You could not criticize Ghandi's opinion about Islam. He obvioulsy was not ignorant to say that RIGHT? He said that based on knowldge!

Anyways, freedom in ISLAM is obvious in many verses. I will write down some. But, you said you don't know much about ISLAM. How can you talk about something that You are ignorant about?? For example, you have accusing my religion a lot and until now I didn't say anything about Hinduism until I read more about it!! and I will show you where its shortcomings are!!

these are the verses about freedom:

MAKE SURE YOU READ EVERYTHING THOUGH HUH! AWARENESS IS BEING BROUGHT TO YOU EASILY NOW. ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS READ!

Freedom of thought and belief is repeatedly emphasized in the Quran:

 

"There shall be no coercion in matters of faith" (2:256)

 

"And had your Lord so willed, all those who live on earth would have attained to faith - all of them, do you then think that you could compel people to believe?" (10:99)

 

"Said (Noah): O my people - what do you think? If ( it be true that) I am taking my stand on a clear evidence from my Lord . . . to which you have remained blind, can we force it on you even though it is hateful to you?" (11:28)

 

"And so (O Prophet) exhort them; your task is only to exhort; you cannot compel" (88:21-22).

 

As long as freedom of expression and information is maintained, different views should be expressed and respected:

 

"Call you (all humanity) unto your Lord's path with wisdom and goodly exhortation, and argue with them in the most kindly (and convincing) manner (16:25).

 

The Quran repeatedly reports the arguments of atheists and polytheists and replies to them objectively in order to teach Muslims how freedom of expression and information should be maintained to make such a dialogue fruitful. According to Islam, freedom of expression and information is a basic human right. Islam condemns spreading lies and false information as well as passiveness and reluctance when the truth should be spoken:

 

"And do not overlay the truth with falsehood, and do not knowingly suppress the truth" (2:42).

 

A believer who is conscious of God should always maintain and defend truth and justice:

 

"O you who have attained to faith! Be ever steadfast in upholding equity, bearing witness to the truth, for the sake of God, even though it be against your own selves or your parents and kinsfolk.... " (4:135)

 

"... Be ever steadfast in your devotion to God, bearing witness to the truth in all equity, and never let hatred lead you into the sins of deviation from justice .... (5:8)

 

Providing false information about an event which one has witnessed (22:30, 25:4, 72, 58:2), as well as refraining from providing the facts that one knows (2:146, 283, 3:71, 167) are both considered grave sins that should be avoided and prevented by every possible means.

 

The teachings of the divine message should be revealed to the public and not concealed, even when the message criticizes or condemns an influential party or authority (2:159). It is significant that the Arabic word kafir and its origin kafara mean originally "to conceal, or to hide." (See the word in a lengthy Arabic dictionary such as Lisan al-Arab; and see the Quranic verses 6:35, 37:14; and 31:32.)

 

The vice of hypocrisy (nifaq) is not less condemned in the Quran than kufr:

 

"They (the hypocrites) are the real enemies . . . , how perverted are their minds." (63:4)

 

"Behold, together with those who deny the truth, God will gather in hell the hypocrites . . ." (4:140)

 

"Verily the hypocrites shall be in the lowest depth of hell . . ." (4:145)

 

Likewise, one who is reluctant to provide the facts is actually concealing the truth and such a person is described as "evil at heart" in the Quran (2:283), and as "a muted devil" in the tradition of the Prophet. Providing the known facts and cooperating constructively so that truth may prevail are fundamental parts of the Islamic obligation of enjoining the doing of what is right and forbidding the doing of what is wrong. (3:110)

 

One who provides false information or is reluctant to provide the right information becomes a participant in the prevalence of falsehood and evil.

 

Every believer is a witness and protector of the truth during his/her whole life:

 

"... so that you may bear witness to the truth before all humanity ...." (2:143)

 

God Himself is the "Ultimate Truth" according to the Quran (22: 6, 24:25), and it is incumbent upon every believer to support the truth in all forms so that it will always prevail. Muslims are addressed as a community to work together in their efforts for progress. The right of assembly is thus essential to secure correctional efforts against any powerful supporter of deviation from truth and righteousness:

 

"And the believers, both men and women, are responsible for (or the supporters of) one another; they all enjoin the doing of what is right and forbid the doing of what is wrong" (9:71)

 

"And that there should arise among you a band of people who invite unto all that is good and enjoin the doing of what is right and forbid the doing of what is wrong" (3:104)

 

"But help one another in furthering virtue and God-consciousness, and not in furthering evil and enmity." (5:2)

 

"And enjoin upon one another the keeping to truth . . . and enjoin upon one another patience (and firmness) in adversity" (103:3)

 

Freedom of expression and information, constituting both a right and a duty for every believer, should be established and maintained by all Muslims - men and women, rulers and ruled. The Quran orders those who have been entrusted with authority:

 

"To deliver all that you have been entrusted with unto those who are entitled thereto, and whenever you rule between people to rule with justice" (4:58-59).

 

 

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Islam, a religion of mercy, does not permit terrorism. In the Quran, God has said:

God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

 

The Prophet Muhammad used to prohibit soldiers from killing women and children,1 and he would advise them: {...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}3

 

Also, the Prophet Muhammad has forbidden punishment with fire.4

 

He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.6}7

 

Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them. Once the Prophet Muhammad said: {A woman was punished because she imprisoned a cat until it died. On account of this, she was doomed to Hell. While she imprisoned it, she did not give the cat food or drink, nor did she free it to eat the insects of the earth.}8

 

He also said that a man gave a very thirsty dog a drink, so God forgave his sins for this action. The Prophet was asked, ôMessenger of God, are we rewarded for kindness towards animals?¤ He said: {There is a reward for kindness to every living animal or human.}9

 

Additionally, while taking the life of an animal for food, Muslims are commanded to do so in a manner that causes the least amount of fright and suffering possible. The Prophet Muhammad said: {When you slaughter an animal, do so in the best way. One should sharpen his knife to reduce the suffering of the animal.}10

 

In light of these and other Islamic texts, the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam and the Muslims. Muslims follow a religion of peace, mercy, and forgiveness, and the vast majority have nothing to do with the violent events some have associated with Muslims. If an individual Muslim were to commit an act of terrorism, this person would be guilty of violating the laws of Islam.

 

 

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All religions are stupid . There is no true religion, only humanity matters. Why you guys are dicussing if suicide by hanging is better or by poison or by throwing one self under train.All are horrible.There is no God . These are all fancies of human imagination.If you list the total amount of blood spilled in the name of god & religion it is disgusting.Do not argue that religions are good and human beings are bad.How all religions kill , kill & kill? there must be something wrong with the sstem of religions.

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I don't deny that there are extremists in every religion including Islam ...

 

No one asking for your confirmation whether there is extremists in every religion or not. Fact is there is ONLY extremists in Christianity and Islam. Religions of God DO NOT accept such approach.

 

ONLY this two religions have been waging war with others for over 1,000 years in name of some god who order them to convert others either by sword or by other means - including marriage and bribery. I DARE you to show me an historical event where Jews (original branch of Abrahamic religion) went to war and put to the sword another group of people to spread Judaism.

 

Islam asks us to talk to people peacefully or otherwise we should not talk if we know our temper will get over us and be violent.

 

Yeah ... Islam asked you to talk to others, it didn't teach you to mind your own business. That alone shows that Islam has NO respect toward others.

 

It shows that Islam promote Muslims to feel superiorty above others, to show that they are above others in their belief and others are below them. They are promoted to "save" others and many Muslims - stupid, outdated, poverty-stricken and miseable in life, goes to other races and act as if they own the world. If that is not ignorance of their own place, I don't know what is.

 

Allow me to ask simple question - What will happen IF a Hindu, Buddhist or a Jew come to a Muslim and start to preach about their belief to him/her? The Muslims will say (peacefully) that Hindu and Buddhist do not have respect and tolerance toward Islam and therefore they out to convert Muslims (into the wrong path). Jews are considered to be evil, so no matter what Jews do, they will get the sword nevertheless.

 

So logically speaking, why is it when Muslims preach (uninvitely) to us, it is peaceful and out of love and when we do the same, we are being intolerant and disrespect?

 

HOW can you imagine this peaceful religion that protects the life of every living creature, ask people to go and kill...

 

Wrong ... to Islam, animals are two type - haram and halal. Those who are haram like dogs are kept aside and many times, ill-treated and those who are halal, most of the time end up eaten.

 

Take example of Cats and Dogs. Cats are halal to touch so they are pampered like nobody's business. But dogs (especially in Malaysia) are ill-treated. The absurd laws like need of training, cannot keep in apartments and such is to make Dog lovers and keepers miseable. WHY? Because Muhammad didn't like dogs. The God in Islam is Muhammad, not Allah.

 

I swear I cry when I hear any terrorist attack because I know it's wrong and against religion ...

 

That shows how intolerant and inhumane you are. And it is perfect example of Islam. We cry because it is our friends and family who dies in terrorist attacks and YOU cry because your pathetic religion is been labelled wrongly.

 

It shows you don't care about our lives, it is your own selfish religion which is more important than peaceful co-existence. Is this God's Religion? Are you God's children? Why should we tolerate you and your war-mongering religion anymore?

 

... name of ISLAM which translates in Arabic to peace not submission as many people think..

 

Hmph ... they can change name to whatever they like nowadays? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

I have been hearing Islam means Submission for years, even the government says so. Suddenly you come in with your own defination? Islam IS submission ... and they are showing it by forcing non-Muslims to submit blindly to Islam either by bribery or by sword. This happened for 1,000 years and it will continue to happen unless we put a stop to ISLAM once and for all. ONLY when Islam cease to exist, will there be peace.

 

PS : Don't give any qoutations from Politicians. Religion and Politics is not same in Hindusm. Politicians' opinons means nothing.

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You have not directly replied to my statment. You come here boasting of converting to Islam and than give a few names of those ingnorant Americans converting to Islam. Heh! ISCOK is based in America and you know how many Americans have become followers of HRE KRISHNA chanting this mantra in the streets of NY? But they are not boasting of their membership strength. Whereas you think by tell us all ths we would be surpriesed, I think some think is wrong with you in your mind.

 

Michael Jacskon is a WACO who feels ashame to be born a black and changed the color of his skin. He sleeps with several women and than claim to only want a child from them and not the women. So a psyco such as MJ will do anything for a kick and publicity.

 

Cat Stevens is a good businesman. He knew the Arams have tob=ns of money and one way of milking them is to convert to Islam and get their fund for his project GOD knows what.

 

All these black Amerians converting to Islam is to show the white Americans that they are disgusted with their attitude against the blacks. The blacks have been treated very badly by the whites 200 over years and to teach the whites a lesson they are converting to Islam. It is not for the love of Islam but vengance against whites. Go to Africa and ask about Islam they will tell you al about Muslims tarding in black slaves. Muhammad had a black slave too and you say compassion. Please don't make me laugh.

 

 

All the names you mentioned were against the white supermercy. Ali fr instance wanted to escape draft and the easiest way to escape is convert to Islam ans say as a Muslim he cannot fight a kafirs battle. What a lame excuse for a yellow belly coward who thinks he is the greatest.

 

The rest is the same an excuse or vengance against the US government.

 

So off with this silly notion that Islam is the fastest growing religion. The rate is declining secretly and Muslims are worried. There are those who have officially remounced without fear but most do not wish to announce and live in fear. Author Salmamn Rushidi wrote " SATANIC VERSES" and I don't think you have read it. I'd advice you to read what he had said about Mohammed. He is an apostate and codemns Islam.

 

Read this encounter:

 

June 16, 2005

 

Pastor Hamid Pourmand of the Assemblies of God Church was acquitted of the charges of apostasy and proselytising on 28th May 2005 by an Islamic court in his hometown Bandar-i Bushehr.

 

Hamid Pourmand, who converted to Christianity in 1980, was arrested during a church meeting last year on 9th September together with another 85 participants. Others were released within three days, however Pourmand was charged of deceiving his superiors about his faith, since according to Iranian law, non-Muslims cannot hold a position of authority above that of a Muslim. So Pourmand should not have been allowed to be an army officer.

 

Other charges he was accused of were apostasy and proselytising. These charges, if he were not acquitted, would have led to a death sentence.

 

A spokesperson of Middle East Concern (MEC) who has been following the case said: "On Saturday May 28th an Islamic judge in Bandar-I Bushehr, on Iran's Gulf coast, acquitted pastor Pourmand of charges of apostasy and proselytising Muslims."

 

However, he still stays in prison: "He remains imprisoned for allegedly deceiving the Iranian army about his being a Christian," the spokesperson continued.

 

He was found guilty of this charge on 16th February 2005 despite the fact the documents proving his superiors had known about his Christian faith were presented during the process. As the result, he was sentenced to 3 years in prison.

 

Later, in early April, he was accused of apostasy and proselytising and appeared before an Islamic court several times from 13th April for two weeks. During the hearings he was forced to convert to Islam again.

 

On 16th May he was transformed to his hometown to stand before an Islamic court there. The case has attracted a lot of international attention, as the statement of the local judge reveals: "I don't know who you are, but the rest of the world does."

 

Is this the religion of compassion?

 

International Religious Freedom Report 2004

Released by the Bureau of Democracy, Human Rights, and Labor

 

 

The Constitution provides for freedom of religion; however, the Government placed some restrictions on this right. Sunni Islam is the official religion, and the practice of non-Sunni Islamic beliefs is significantly restricted. Non-Muslims are free to practice their religious beliefs with few restrictions.

 

There was no change in the status of respect for religious freedom during the period covered by this report.

 

Restrictions on Religious Freedom

 

In practice Muslims are not permitted to convert to another religion. In several recent rulings, secular courts have ceded jurisdiction to the Islamic courts in matters involving conversion to or from Islam. In 2001, a High Court judge rejected the application of a woman who converted to Christianity and requested that the term "Islam" be removed from her identity card. The judge held that the Islamic court had jurisdiction in the application. In 2000, an Islamic court sentenced four persons to 3-year prison terms for not recanting their alleged heretical beliefs and "return[ing] to the true teachings of Islam." The court rejected their argument that they were not subject to Islamic (Shari'a) law because they had ceased to be Muslims. Dismissing their appeal, the Court of Appeal ruled in 2002 that only the Islamic court is qualified to determine whether a Muslim has become an apostate. The case is pending a final decision in the Federal Court.

 

In a 2004 ruling, the Kuala Lumpur High Court held that only the Islamic Court had jurisdiction over a suit by a non-Muslim mother to nullify the conversion of her two children to Islam without her agreement. The father converted to Islam after he became estranged from his wife and allegedly converted his two infant children to gain custody over them. The MCCBCHS said the ruling "tramples over the rights of non-Muslim parents." The mother filed an appeal, which was pending at the end of the period covered by this report.

 

The Government opposes what it considers "deviant" interpretations of Islam, maintaining that the "deviant" groups' extreme views endanger national security. In the past, the Government imposed restrictions on certain Islamic groups, primarily the small number of Shi'a residents. The Government continues to monitor the activities of the Shi'a minority.

 

Control of mosques is exercised at the state level rather than by the federal Government; state religious authorities appoint imams to mosques and provide guidance on the content of sermons. While practices vary from state to state, both the Government and the opposition Islamic party have attempted to use mosques in the states they control to deliver politically oriented messages. In recent years, several states controlled by the ruling coalition government announced measures including banning opposition-affiliated imams from speaking at mosques, more vigorously enforcing existing restrictions on the content of sermons, replacing mosque leaders and governing committees thought to be sympathetic to the opposition, and threatening to close down unauthorized mosques with ties to the opposition. Similarly, in states controlled by the opposition Islamic party some government-affiliated imams have been banned from speaking. These decisions vary from state to state.

 

In 2002, the Government began enforcing a requirement that all Muslim civil servants attend religious classes taught by government-approved teachers.

 

Proselytizing of Muslims by members of other religions is strictly prohibited, although proselytizing of non-Muslims faces no obstacles. The Government discourages but does not ban the distribution in the peninsular portion of the country of Malay-language translations of the Bible, Christian tapes, and other printed materials. The distribution of Malay-language Christian materials faces few restrictions in East Malaysia. In 2003, the Government briefly banned a Bible, translated into the language of the indigenous Iban in Sarawak, on the grounds that the Bible's use of the Islamic phrase "Allah Taala" (Almighty God) could create confusion among Muslims. However, the acting prime minister quickly lifted the ban following the addition of a cross to the cover of the Iban

 

 

 

 

Do not trouble trouble unless trouble troubels you. YOU ASK FOR IT.

[Sephiroth 0]

Michael Jackson is a Jehovas witness follower.

 

Jehovah Witness is NOT a Jewish cult but a Christian one. I just make sure everyone knows that. Mainstream Christianity rejected Jehovah Witness and in Singapore, JW is said to be banned.

 

You call those people intellectual? What's wrong with you!

 

Good one. Hehehehehe ... to them, anyone who uses brute force and lacks of mental capabilities to think is considered to be intelligent.

 

{John Muhammad and John Malvo - infamous "Beltway Sniper" serial killers who terrorized Washington, D.C. area residents}

 

So that who they are ... no wonder their names sounded very familiar. How is it that serial killers considered as "Intellectual" in islam, I wonder?

[Sephiroth 0]

Muslims are cunning ... their religion is full of holes and Muhammad is a bad example of a Muslim (and the worse example of a human being).

 

In the Quran, God has said:

God does not forbid you from showing kindness and dealing justly with those who have not fought you about religion and have not driven you out of your homes. God loves just dealers. (Quran, 60:8)

 

Muslims overcome this by 1st preaching Islam to others (peacefully) and looking at response. If the response is good, then fine. If the response is bad, then they will begin to beat war drums into the ears of its followers.

 

Look at France. Last year, France shown to have the large number of Muslims in Europe. And at same time, Muslims tries to change the legalization to allow things like scarf and head covers. Legalizations failed and this year, France is under a riot and 18 foreigners were initiate this riots were in process of deporting.

 

In this context, Muslims can justify their war-mongering by stating that France Government were against Islam by not allowing head covers and scarfs to be used, thus their actions is legal according to Islam.

 

{...Do not betray, do not be excessive, do not kill a newborn child.}2 And he also said: {Whoever has killed a person having a treaty with the Muslims shall not smell the fragrance of Paradise, though its fragrance is found for a span of forty years.}

 

That's simple ... it shows Islam is not peaceful, it shows Muhammad is cunning.

 

He ordered the newborn child not to be killed because they could be brainwashed. And he also ordered those who make treaty (submit or make business) with Muslims are not to be killed because this only will weakened Muslims. So where is the tolerance and peaceful part?

 

Women are not killed because Islam treats them as baby-making machines and babies are assets which they could brain-wash. Men are killed if they could fight and this will prevent future treats from appearing.

 

He once listed murder as the second of the major sins,5 and he even warned that on the Day of Judgment, {The first cases to be adjudicated between people on the Day of Judgment will be those of bloodshed.

 

Don't lie by making it sound like treatment of crime for Muslims and non-Muslims are the same. In Syariah Laws, Muslims who murders a non-Muslims could escape IF family of non-Muslims accepted monetary compensations for their losts (which they could be forced to accept). However, a Non-Muslims who kills a Muslim WILL be punished accordingly - no way out.

 

Also, a Muslim required by his religion to support his own Muslim brother all the time. Which means if you have two Muslims and a non-Muslim, and if the non-Muslim accuse the Muslim of a crime, the other Muslim MUST support the Muslim even so he knows the truth. Because if he didn't, he will be considered to be associate with non-Muslims to ill-treat Muslims and that brings punishment in Hell.

 

Muslims are even encouraged to be kind to animals and are forbidden to hurt them.

 

Every year at Aidihadaha, hundred of thousands of Cows, goats and camels lose their lives to Muslims' knife. If Islam so loving to animals, they couldn't slaughtering them so much.

 

... the act of inciting terror in the hearts of defenseless civilians, the wholesale destruction of buildings and properties, the bombing and maiming of innocent men, women, and children are all forbidden and detestable acts according to Islam ...

 

Then Muhammad himself is not Muslim. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

In one of the Jewish town (forgot the name), Jews managed to help themselves inside the town which was fortified for so long, Muslims almost gave up. Food and water was plentiful because it was just after harvest season and Jews managed to harvest it in time. Water was plenty inside. Muslims were baking in the hot sun and no attack could penetrate it.

 

So what did Muhammad do? He asked his followers to create and use catapull-like tools which throws large rocks toward the town to break through. Did Muhammad considered this above statement that his god forbids it? Nope, because he is god of Islam.

[barney 0]

TIMES ONLINE

fEBRUARY 2005

 

Muslim apostates cast out and at risk from faith and family

By Anthony Browne

While Christians who turn to Islam are feted, the 200,000 Muslims who turn away are faced with abuse, violence and even murder:

 

THE first brick was thrown through the sitting room window at one in the morning, waking Nissar Hussein, his wife and five children with a terrifying start. The second brick went through his car window.

It was a shock, but hardly a surprise. The week before, another brick had been thrown through the window as the family were preparing for bed in their Bradford home. The victim of a three-year campaign of religious hatred, Mr Hussein’s car has also been rammed and torched, and the steps to his home have been strewn with rubbish.

 

 

 

He and his family have been regularly jostled, abused, attacked, shouted at to move out of the area, and given death threats in the street. His wife has been held hostage inside their home for two hours by a mob. His car, walls and windows have been daubed in graffiti: “Christian bastard”.

 

The problem isn’t so much what Mr Hussein, whose parents came from Pakistan, believes, but what he doesn’t believe. Born into Islam, he converted eight years ago to Christianity, and his wife, also from Pakistan, followed suit.

 

While those who convert to Islam, such as Cat Stevens, Jemima Khan, and the sons of the Frank Dobson, the former Health Secretary, and Lord Birt, the former BBC Director-General, can publicly celebrate their new religion, those whose faith goes in the other direction face persecution. Mr Hussein, a 39-year-old hospital nurse in Bradford, is one of a growing number of former Muslims in Britain who face not just being shunned by family and community, but attacked, kidnapped, and in some cases killed. There is even a secret underground network to support and protect those who leave Islam. One estimate suggests that as many as 15 per cent of Muslims in Western societies have lost their faith, which would mean that in Britain there are about 200,000 apostates.

 

For police, religious authorities and politicians, it is an issue so sensitive that they are accused by victims of refusing to respond to appeals for help. It is a problem that, with the crisis of identity in Islam since September 11, seems to be getting worse as Muslims feel more threatened.

 

Muslims who lose their faith face execution or imprisonment, in line with traditional Muslim teaching, in many Islamic countries, including Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Egypt and Yemen. In the Netherlands, the former Muslim MP Ayan Hirsi Ali had to go into hiding after renouncing her faith on television.

 

The Prince of Wales recently held a meeting with religious leaders to consider ways to stop former Muslims being persecuted in other countries, but Britain itself is also affected.

 

Mr Hussein told The Times: “It’s been absolutely appalling. This is England — where I was born and raised. You would never imagine Christians would suffer in such a way.”

 

The police have not charged anyone, but told him to leave the area. “We feel completely isolated, utterly helpless. I have been utterly failed by the authorities. If it was white racists attacking an Asian guy, there would be an absolute outcry,” he said. “They are trying to ethnically cleanse me out of my home. I feel I have to make a stand as an Asian Christian.”

 

Yasmin, who was raised in the North of England, has been forced out of her town once, and is now trying to resist being chased out again. Brought up in a Muslim family, she converted after having a vision of Jesus when she gave birth to her youngest son, and was baptised in her thirties.. “My family completely disowned me. They thought I had committed the biggest sin — I was born a Muslim, and so I must die a Muslim. When my husband found out, he totally disowned my sons. One friend tried to strangle me when I told him I was converting,” she said.

 

“We had bricks though our windows, I was spat at in the street because they thought I was dishonouring Islam. We had to call the police so many times. I had to go to court to get an injunction against my husband because he was inciting others to attack me.”

 

She fled to another part of Britain, but the attacks soon started again as locals found out about her. “I wasn’t going to leave again,” she said, adding that it was the double standards of her attackers that made her most angry. “They are such hypocrites — they want us to be tolerant of everything they want, but they are intolerant of everything about us.”

 

With other converts, Yasmin has helped to set up a series of support groups across England, who have adopted a method of operating normally associated with dissidents in dictatorships, not democracies. They not only have to meet in secret, but cannot advertise their services, and have to vet those that approach them for infiltrators.

 

“There are so many who convert from Islam to Christianity. We have 70 people on our list who we support, and the list is growing. We don’t want others to suffer like we have,” she said.

 

 

 

 

[grace 0]

If I had accused your religion/s, please accept my sincere apologies. It is my understanding Islam claims it is the best religion in the world and that may be the reason some of you have chosen it. I was religious, but may be I am "FOOLISH and IGNORANT" I could not understand the Darma, Karma, Homa,Ten commandments, visnu vs Shiva, Going to Mecca or Kashi things. All these thingies may help learned and intelligent guys like you.

My little brain does understand the concept of "Grace". For me it is more than human nature and psychology can explain. It is my strong belief that there has to be a God. It may be He or She or It , Whatever He is, His terrible insistence on human freedom is so absolute he has granted us the power to live as though HE DID NOT EXIST. God is not a superman, batman, Santa Clause, etc. He has no power to rid our diseases, no power to stop a crime, no power to stop Tsunami. It is my imagination that He has traded the power of authority, magics, or some mystery for the human freedom. The religious people, Temples, churches, masjids etc have pushed the Grace of God out and have taken the roles of authority, magic and mystery and calling rest of us as "puppets" with 'strings' attached etc... If there is something such as "GOD", the only way I describe Him or It is Grace. His love for humans is too much and it is insane. All I need to do is to say Thank you in gratitude.

[Sephiroth 0]

I could not understand the Darma, Karma, Homa,Ten commandments, visnu vs Shiva, Going to Mecca or Kashi things. All these thingies may help learned and intelligent guys like you.

 

If you don't understand something, you seek others to explain it to you. Guys here are good at explaining it with patience and example. You don't drop the subject and pretend it doesn't exists.

 

That is what most Muslim (and Christians) do this days. It is said "You sow what you reap" (Christian concept of Karma) yet many Christians don't bother and continue to live in sinful life. Muslims are no better ... they think their prayers is good enough. While they don't live a sinful life like Christians, they are guilt of being close-minded and intolerance to everyone else.

 

It is my strong belief that there has to be a God.

 

There is God but I doubt He is with Christians or Muslims. /images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

Whatever He is, His terrible insistence on human freedom is so absolute he has granted us the power to live as though HE DID NOT EXIST.

 

So we can find Him and live as He do exists. That is power of Freedom and Faith - to find Reason to believe and to held onto that Belief.

 

Unfortunately, Christians abuse that power by challenging Nature and goes to extend that denying God altogether - thus creating Atheism. Muslims went the opposite way - they suppressed that freedom so much (which was given by God) that they deny everything but what their little book says is God.

 

He has no power to rid our diseases, no power to stop a crime, no power to stop Tsunami.

 

Baaka ... then what's the use of believing in God? Is that your God? So weak and pathetic? Is that the way you picture God? Like Christians do ... nailed to a cross, naked, bleeding and dead? /images/graemlins/wink.gif

 

He has the power to get rid of disease, stop crime and Tsunamis, but question here is - WHY should He? Give me one good reason why He should stop all this from happening?

 

If He gets rids of disease, then how do our immune system grows stronger and how do our children inherit stronger immunity to disease and sickness?

 

If He stops crime (which He came close to doing in India before Muslims come to plunder), then how do we have Laws and Order and Kyastrias who devote their lives to protecting the society?

 

If He stops Tsunamis, then how do we have develop willingness to help each other, come out with new systems to prevent further disasters and save more lives?

 

NEVER blame God for bad things that happens to us - it happens for a reason and that reasons may not be know today, tomorrow or even next day, but History will tell how God shaped Man's destiny. Just read your History book. ONLY the most ignorant and faithless people will blame God for bad things without knowing facts.

 

"Everything that happened, happened for a good reason; everything that happening is for a good reason and everything that will happen, will happen for a good reason" - Sri Krishna in Bhavagad Gita. NEVER FORGET THIS.

 

All I need to do is to say Thank you in gratitude.

 

If you want to thank Him, then LIVE a proper life and strive for perfection. Otherwise, He had wasted His time with you.

[Arjuna 0]

Why should one be so proud that their religion boasts numerous adherents, famous and of normal/average bearing?

 

I like the idea of Sanatana Dharma because it is good for me. It's teachings [bhagavad Gita] are very enlightening if you will meditate on them. Duty to Krishna [God], selfless action, sacrifice/yajna all that you do to Krishna [God]. These things are meaningful.

[Guest guest]

Sephi,

 

What kinda of idiotic definition are you giving here?

God doesnt stop disease for you to become strong..well thats a good joke.y be strong if there are no diseases?havent u ever thought prevention better than cure

Y doesnt god allow Tsunami?ur answer is funny again.

If u dont know the answer then keep quiet dont make it look even worse.

U hate muslims and christians fine,but thats not going to make u close to god,because god (if he exists) had created muslims and christians and u,and who r u to judge ur better than them?isnt that ego?isnt that arrogance?isnt that pride?

[Sephiroth 0]

Learn some manner by first registering yourself. If you are a registered member, log in and then speak.

 

If you have no interest to register, LEAVE for I will not entertain rude people. Have a nice day.

[Guest guest]

""you have to know this! Moses was sent to the jews! Jesus to Christians and Mohammed to Muslim. The three religions are from ONE GOD. Therefore, there is no reason to be surprised if you find the same verses in the three religions! They are all from ONE GOD, ALLAH.

I won't go into detail in the differences between the three religions! BUt the point here is that you are really ignorant and intolerant because you like to believe what others say about ISLAM and you refuse to go and read about the true teachings of ISLAM. Take for example India, your country, go and ask a muslim there who was Hindu before and let him tell you his story how did he become a muslim?? was he forced or was he convinced??

ONE more thing, go and read about the Muslim Scholars what they say about those Muslims extremists which we find in every religion, Hitler in Christianity is one example!

Muslims all condamn the terrorists attacks that kill innocent people. Muslims themselves are targetted in the terrorists attack.. to make it easy for you go to www.sultan.org

you better go and educate yourself more about Islam, the peaceful and true religion

wish you the best of luck if your research!""

 

 

yeah but the funny thing is is that Islam is the only religion out of those 3 that believes that they all come from one god. Christianity thinks Islam is sent from Satan, don't think that those 3 religions all agree with one another that they are all sent from the same god.

 

also, maybe in modern day hindus aren't getting held by a knife to convert to islam (not as much atleast) just know that many of your muslims today have had there ancestors forced to convert to that religion..

[Guest guest]

Good question. What is the point of coming to a hindu site if you are a muslim.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

 

All glories to the All-Attractive Lord!

 

"Good question. What is the point of coming to a hindu site if you are a muslim."

 

If you're an enlightened Muslim i.e. surrendered to Allah, you may see that every being is a part and parcel of the Lord, hence all Hindus sincerely serving God are Muslim i.e. surrendered to God. Therefore the point might be to share realisations.

 

Your aspiring servant,

******

 

[Guest guest]

namaste,everyone.after reading this thread i want to convert to hinduism.i want to become a born again hindu.what do i have to do to become a hindu?.which sect do i join?.what is hindu heaven like?.can i become a brahmin priest?.because after conversion i want to become a hindu preacher.i want to convert others to hindu faith.