John Lennon, my Inspiration

[Guest guest]

well I don't know waht a Prat is

but I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!

 

as far as ego goes, there are many many stories of fans

camping outside his house and he would tell them to come

in and have breakfast with him.

 

he was accesable, and made sure to tell people that he was

just a regular guy, he has said this in interviews many times.

 

he came from a broken home, this made him side with the underdog.

 

and you know what, sometimes confidence can be mistaken for a big

ego.

 

you have to have confidence if you think that you are going to make

a change in this world.

 

at least he tried, what are you and I doing?

 

sitting on our asses watching reruns of dr. who and buffy the vampire!

 

He thought that he could make a difference and he tried,

many celebrieties use their fame status as a way to

reach many people, Joaquin Phoenix is an exampple of this,

 

 

most celebrities are just selfish.

 

I did attend the candlelight anniversary of his death in central

park in NYc this past december.

 

it was beautiful and peaceful, people were singing, playing guitar,

and drinking tea in the freezing cold, still talking about PEACE!

 

if he could have this effect on people 26 years after his death,

then he is highly respected by me.

 

he could have chosen instead to hob nob with hollywood, he is still

telling us to WAKE UP from our little lives.

 

He was one of the greatest persons to ever live!!!

 

-anouk

 

 

 

, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> Well it did sound like a hippy place? ( yeah I know he was a bit of

a prat with an ego the size of a planet, but he did have some talent?)

>

> The Valley Vegan.............

>

>

[Guest guest]

I`m glad that he touched you , but to say he was one of the greatest people ever is a bit much for any musician? The Valley Vegan............Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: well I don't know waht a Prat is but I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!as far as ego goes, there are many many stories of fanscamping outside his house and he would tell them to come in and have breakfast with him. he was accesable, and made sure to tell people that he was just a regular guy, he has said this in interviews many times. he came from a broken home, this made him side with the underdog.and you know what, sometimes confidence can be mistaken for a bigego. you have to have confidence if you think that you are going to make a change in this world. at

least he tried, what are you and I doing?sitting on our asses watching reruns of dr. who and buffy the vampire!He thought that he could make a difference and he tried,many celebrieties use their fame status as a way to reach many people, Joaquin Phoenix is an exampple of this, most celebrities are just selfish. I did attend the candlelight anniversary of his death in central park in NYc this past december. it was beautiful and peaceful, people were singing, playing guitar, and drinking tea in the freezing cold, still talking about PEACE!if he could have this effect on people 26 years after his death, then he is highly respected by me. he could have chosen instead to hob nob with hollywood, he is still telling us to WAKE UP from our little lives. He was one of the greatest persons to ever live!!! -anouk , peter VV

wrote:>> Well it did sound like a hippy place? ( yeah I know he was a bit ofa prat with an ego the size of a planet, but he did have some talent?)> > The Valley Vegan.............> >

[Guest guest]

I think it is all romanticised somewhat. He was a hard character - and very

selfish. He left his first wife and son when he became famous, and claimed

to love Yoko very much, yet was constantly unfaithful to her - even in the

same house within hearing distance.

 

I am not a fan.

 

Jo

-

" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Friday, June 02, 2006 4:10 PM

John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

 

well I don't know waht a Prat is

but I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!

 

as far as ego goes, there are many many stories of fans

camping outside his house and he would tell them to come

in and have breakfast with him.

 

he was accesable, and made sure to tell people that he was

just a regular guy, he has said this in interviews many times.

 

he came from a broken home, this made him side with the underdog.

 

and you know what, sometimes confidence can be mistaken for a big

ego.

 

you have to have confidence if you think that you are going to make

a change in this world.

 

at least he tried, what are you and I doing?

 

sitting on our asses watching reruns of dr. who and buffy the vampire!

 

He thought that he could make a difference and he tried,

many celebrieties use their fame status as a way to

reach many people, Joaquin Phoenix is an exampple of this,

 

 

most celebrities are just selfish.

 

I did attend the candlelight anniversary of his death in central

park in NYc this past december.

 

it was beautiful and peaceful, people were singing, playing guitar,

and drinking tea in the freezing cold, still talking about PEACE!

 

if he could have this effect on people 26 years after his death,

then he is highly respected by me.

 

he could have chosen instead to hob nob with hollywood, he is still

telling us to WAKE UP from our little lives.

 

He was one of the greatest persons to ever live!!!

 

-anouk

 

 

 

, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> Well it did sound like a hippy place? ( yeah I know he was a bit of

a prat with an ego the size of a planet, but he did have some talent?)

>

> The Valley Vegan.............

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly pious individual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more for charity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person. The Valley Vegan..........jo <jo.heartwork wrote: I think it is all romanticised somewhat. He was a hard character - and veryselfish. He left his first wife and son when he became famous, and claimedto love Yoko very much, yet was constantly unfaithful to her - even in thesame house within hearing distance.I am not a fan.Jo-"Anouk Sickler" Friday, June 02, 2006 4:10 PM John Lennon, my Inspirationwell I don't know

waht a Prat isbut I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!as far as ego goes, there are many many stories of fanscamping outside his house and he would tell them to comein and have breakfast with him.he was accesable, and made sure to tell people that he wasjust a regular guy, he has said this in interviews many times.he came from a broken home, this made him side with the underdog.and you know what, sometimes confidence can be mistaken for a bigego.you have to have confidence if you think that you are going to makea change in this world.at least he tried, what are you and I doing?sitting on our asses watching reruns of dr. who and buffy the vampire!He thought that he could make a difference and he tried,many celebrieties use their fame status as a way toreach many people, Joaquin Phoenix is an exampple of this,most celebrities are just selfish.I did attend the candlelight

anniversary of his death in centralpark in NYc this past december.it was beautiful and peaceful, people were singing, playing guitar,and drinking tea in the freezing cold, still talking about PEACE!if he could have this effect on people 26 years after his death,then he is highly respected by me.he could have chosen instead to hob nob with hollywood, he is stilltelling us to WAKE UP from our little lives.He was one of the greatest persons to ever live!!!-anouk , peter VV wrote:>> Well it did sound like a hippy place? ( yeah I know he was a bit ofa prat with an ego the size of a planet, but he did have some talent?)>> The Valley Vegan.............>>To send an email to - Yahoo! Groups

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Hi Peter

 

I think he was the least pleasant of the Beatles. My favourite was always Ringo - he seemed normal.

 

Jo

 

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peter VV

Sunday, June 04, 2006 6:55 PM

Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly pious individual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more for charity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person.

 

 

The Valley Vegan..........jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

I think it is all romanticised somewhat. He was a hard character - and veryselfish. He left his first wife and son when he became famous, and claimedto love Yoko very much, yet was constantly unfaithful to her - even in thesame house within hearing distance.I am not a fan.Jo-"Anouk Sickler" Friday, June 02, 2006 4:10 PM John Lennon, my Inspirationwell I don't know waht a Prat isbut I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!as far as ego goes, there are many many stories of fanscamping outside his house and he would tell them to comein and have breakfast with him.he was accesable, and made sure to tell people that he wasjust a regular guy, he has said this in interviews many times.he came from a broken home, this made him side with the underdog.and you know what, sometimes confidence can be mistaken for a bigego.you have to have confidence if you think that you are going to makea change in this world.at least he tried, what are you and I doing?sitting on our asses watching reruns of dr. who and buffy the vampire!He thought that he could make a difference and he tried,many celebrieties use their fame status as a way toreach many people, Joaquin Phoenix is an exampple of this,most celebrities are just selfish.I did attend the candlelight anniversary of his death in centralpark in NYc this past december.it was beautiful and peaceful, people were singing, playing guitar,and drinking tea in the freezing cold, still talking about PEACE!if he could have this effect on people 26 years after his death,then he is highly respected by me.he could have chosen instead to hob nob with hollywood, he is stilltelling us to WAKE UP from our little lives.He was one of the greatest persons to ever live!!!-anouk , peter VV wrote:>> Well it did sound like a hippy place? ( yeah I know he was a bit ofa prat with an ego the size of a planet, but he did have some talent?)>> The Valley Vegan.............>>To send an email to -

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john was a great ambassador for peace and a legend. bless his soul.

 

 

 

 

 

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peter VV

Monday, June 05, 2006 5:55 AM

Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly pious individual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more for charity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person.

 

 

The Valley Vegan..........jo <jo.heartwork wrote:

I think it is all romanticised somewhat. He was a hard character - and veryselfish. He left his first wife and son when he became famous, and claimedto love Yoko very much, yet was constantly unfaithful to her - even in thesame house within hearing distance.I am not a fan.Jo-"Anouk Sickler" Friday, June 02, 2006 4:10 PM John Lennon, my Inspirationwell I don't know waht a Prat isbut I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!as far as ego goes, there are many many stories of fanscamping outside his house and he would tell them to comein and have breakfast with him.he was accesable, and made sure to tell people that he wasjust a regular guy, he has said this in interviews many times.he came from a broken home, this made him side with the underdog.and you know what, sometimes confidence can be mistaken for a bigego.you have to have confidence if you think that you are going to makea change in this world.at least he tried, what are you and I doing?sitting on our asses watching reruns of dr. who and buffy the vampire!He thought that he could make a difference and he tried,many celebrieties use their fame status as a way toreach many people, Joaquin Phoenix is an exampple of this,most celebrities are just selfish.I did attend the candlelight anniversary of his death in centralpark in NYc this past december.it was beautiful and peaceful, people were singing, playing guitar,and drinking tea in the freezing cold, still talking about PEACE!if he could have this effect on people 26 years after his death,then he is highly respected by me.he could have chosen instead to hob nob with hollywood, he is stilltelling us to WAKE UP from our little lives.He was one of the greatest persons to ever live!!!-anouk , peter VV wrote:>> Well it did sound like a hippy place? ( yeah I know he was a bit ofa prat with an ego the size of a planet, but he did have some talent?)>> The Valley Vegan.............>>To send an email to -

[Guest guest]

a musician was just one of the things that he was.

He was an Artist. A political Activist. A Visionary.

 

 

, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> I`m glad that he touched you , but to say he was one of the greatest

people ever is a bit much for any musician?

>

> The Valley Vegan............

>

> Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote:

> well I don't know waht a Prat is

> but I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!

[Guest guest]

, " jo " <jo.heartwork wrote:

>

> I think it is all romanticised somewhat. He was a hard character -

and very

> selfish. He left his first wife and son when he became famous, and

claimed

> to love Yoko very much, yet was constantly unfaithful to her - even

in the

> same house within hearing distance.

>

> I am not a fan.

>

> Jo

 

 

 

 

hi jo,

 

are you sure that he was a hard character?

 

I do not get that impression, but I was a little kid

when he was alive.

 

Perhaps I am romanticism him.

 

I do know that his peace message, the Imagine song lives

within my heart, and that he lives in the heart of many

people, through his inspiration, today.

 

I think that one must put into perspective what happened.

 

He married his high school sweatheart and then suddendly

came into fame and half of the worlds women wanted

to sleep with him. what would many men do?

 

he literally had to choose between,

the beatles career and being a normal husband.

He has expressed regret in some interviews.

 

I know that his little boy Julian

was living with him and Yoko on the weekends.

and I get the impression that lots of people were getting

divorces easily back then.

 

as far as sleeping with other women..

there is a documentary called Imagine. it is a dvd, which i rented.

 

In it he is speaking frankly about his realtionship with yoko.

and in the interview Yoko admits, that she got women for John.

 

yes, she actually encouraged him to sleep with other women,

and even got a very good asian friend of hers to sleep with john, (the

asian friend is shown in the video with yoko)

John, says " she thinks I need to sleep with other women and I don't

understand why she wants me to "

 

some women that i know in nyc, have open relationships and

get their husbands to sleep with some women or a friend that they choose.

It is not my thing, but for some, Open relationships work.

 

It is not very different from the polyamorous people that we know,

Serene, and Peter's friend Alex from Italy.

 

I do not judge, and think that perhaps because he was a celebrity

we are looking at him through a microscope lens.

 

I am one of those people that think that sex sometimes is just sex,

but if it is with someone you love it is better.

 

I do give him credit for marrying an Asian person, when he could

have had all the girls in the world.

 

as I understand it, Interracial marriages, were not so accepted

in the 1960's.

 

I also give him credit for marrying, the woman

he loved, despite the fact that this was not encouraged by many people.

 

To me that love that he felt for her is

apparent in the gallery pictures of nudes that they took

together, the way that they used to walk hand in hand and

in his devotion to the baby he had with her.

[Guest guest]

John Lennon

challenged the politics of war..

taking on reporters from the New York Times,

and old time Republican farts, with head to head

confrontations about what we were doing in vietnam.

 

they even took his passport away for his politics. He wasn't afraid to

stick his head out.

 

did Paul and Ringo?

 

 

-give peace a chance..

 

 

 

, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly pious

individual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more for

charity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person.

>

>

> The Valley Vegan..........

[Guest guest]

Hi Anouk

 

Can you tell me what John Lennon did to make you describe him as a

political activist?

 

Jo

 

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

wrote:

>

>

> a musician was just one of the things that he was.

> He was an Artist. A political Activist. A Visionary.

>

>

> , peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote:

> >

> > I`m glad that he touched you , but to say he was one of the

greatest

> people ever is a bit much for any musician?

> >

> > The Valley Vegan............

> >

> > Anouk Sickler <zurumato@> wrote:

> > well I don't know waht a Prat is

> > but I LOVE John Lennon!!!!!

>

[Guest guest]

It is not unusual to want peace - don't most people - we just don't

get the chance to tell the world because we are not famous.

 

On the Yoko point - she must have been right about him needing other

women otherwise he would have refused. In interviews with her that I

have seen she was very upset by his attitude. Also his first wife

was very upset when he left her. I know these happenings are not

unusual but because something is a common happening does not make it

any better to hurt people. Aren't we on VeganChat against hurting

other beings, including people?

 

Jo

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

wrote:

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork@> wrote:

> >

> > I think it is all romanticised somewhat. He was a hard

character -

> and very

> > selfish. He left his first wife and son when he became famous,

and

> claimed

> > to love Yoko very much, yet was constantly unfaithful to her -

even

> in the

> > same house within hearing distance.

> >

> > I am not a fan.

> >

> > Jo

>

>

>

>

> hi jo,

>

> are you sure that he was a hard character?

>

> I do not get that impression, but I was a little kid

> when he was alive.

>

> Perhaps I am romanticism him.

>

> I do know that his peace message, the Imagine song lives

> within my heart, and that he lives in the heart of many

> people, through his inspiration, today.

>

> I think that one must put into perspective what happened.

>

> He married his high school sweatheart and then suddendly

> came into fame and half of the worlds women wanted

> to sleep with him. what would many men do?

>

> he literally had to choose between,

> the beatles career and being a normal husband.

> He has expressed regret in some interviews.

>

> I know that his little boy Julian

> was living with him and Yoko on the weekends.

> and I get the impression that lots of people were getting

> divorces easily back then.

>

> as far as sleeping with other women..

> there is a documentary called Imagine. it is a dvd, which i rented.

>

> In it he is speaking frankly about his realtionship with yoko.

> and in the interview Yoko admits, that she got women for John.

>

> yes, she actually encouraged him to sleep with other women,

> and even got a very good asian friend of hers to sleep with john,

(the

> asian friend is shown in the video with yoko)

> John, says " she thinks I need to sleep with other women and I don't

> understand why she wants me to "

>

> some women that i know in nyc, have open relationships and

> get their husbands to sleep with some women or a friend that they

choose.

> It is not my thing, but for some, Open relationships work.

>

> It is not very different from the polyamorous people that we know,

> Serene, and Peter's friend Alex from Italy.

>

> I do not judge, and think that perhaps because he was a celebrity

> we are looking at him through a microscope lens.

>

> I am one of those people that think that sex sometimes is just sex,

> but if it is with someone you love it is better.

>

> I do give him credit for marrying an Asian person, when he could

> have had all the girls in the world.

>

> as I understand it, Interracial marriages, were not so accepted

> in the 1960's.

>

> I also give him credit for marrying, the woman

> he loved, despite the fact that this was not encouraged by many

people.

>

> To me that love that he felt for her is

> apparent in the gallery pictures of nudes that they took

> together, the way that they used to walk hand in hand and

> in his devotion to the baby he had with her.

>

[Guest guest]

Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

 

Jo

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

wrote:

>

> John Lennon

> challenged the politics of war..

> taking on reporters from the New York Times,

> and old time Republican farts, with head to head

> confrontations about what we were doing in vietnam.

>

> they even took his passport away for his politics. He wasn't afraid

to

> stick his head out.

>

> did Paul and Ringo?

>

>

> -give peace a chance..

>

>

>

> , peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote:

> >

> > I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly pious

> individual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more for

> charity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person.

> >

> >

> > The Valley Vegan..........

>

[Guest guest]

Yes, and more.

 

 

On

Behalf Of heartwerk

06 June 2006 08:01

 

Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

 

Jo

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

wrote:

>

> John Lennon

> challenged the politics of war..

> taking on reporters from the New York Times, and old time Republican

> farts, with head to head confrontations about what we were doing in

> vietnam.

>

> they even took his passport away for his politics. He wasn't afraid

to

> stick his head out.

>

> did Paul and Ringo?

>

>

> -give peace a chance..

>

>

>

> , peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote:

> >

> > I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly pious

> individual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more for

> charity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person.

> >

> >

> > The Valley Vegan..........

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hi Michael & everyone

 

>>Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

> Yes, and more

 

So, you wouldn't have said that the feminist movement had anything at all to do with it?????

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

He was part of the feminist movement, and more.

 

 

On Behalf Of Peter Kebbell06 June 2006 16:06 Subject: Re: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

Hi Michael & everyone

 

>>Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

> Yes, and more

 

So, you wouldn't have said that the feminist movement had anything at all to do with it?????

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Sure he spoke out against Vietnam, but so did the rest of the beatles, and half of the other bands around at the time. Yes he promoted peace but so did loads of other hippies at the time.To that end he probably was a product of the times he was living in. Changed the politics of war? thats a bit strong , what about Dylan? Seems to me that he did less and less as he grew to the end of his time, George seemed to me to do a lot more for charity and fund raising, but always kept quiet about it ( apart from the Bangeladesh concert thingy). And dont even get started on Yoko! Just my opinion, just as you have yours. The Valley Vegan................Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: John Lennonchallenged the politics of war..

taking on reporters from the New York Times,and old time Republican farts, with head to headconfrontations about what we were doing in vietnam.they even took his passport away for his politics. He wasn't afraid to stick his head out. did Paul and Ringo?-give peace a chance.. , peter VV wrote:>> I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly piousindividual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more forcharity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person.> > > The Valley Vegan..........

[Guest guest]

Are you sure? Did Americans really take so much notice of an English person?

 

Jo

 

 

 

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Michael Benis

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 3:48 PM

RE: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

 

Yes, and more. OnBehalf Of heartwerk06 June 2006 08:01 Subject: Re: John Lennon, my InspirationWas it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?Jo , "Anouk Sickler" <zurumatowrote:>> John Lennon> challenged the politics of war.. > taking on reporters from the New York Times, and old time Republican > farts, with head to head confrontations about what we were doing in > vietnam.> > they even took his passport away for his politics. He wasn't afraidto > stick his head out. > > did Paul and Ringo?> > > -give peace a chance..> > > > , peter VV <swpgh01@> wrote:> >> > I agree with you Jo, He didnt strike me as a particularly pious> individual, in fact George and Paul seemed to do a lot more for > charity than he did. He just seemed a very hedonistic person.> > > > > > The Valley Vegan..........>

[Guest guest]

He must have changed one hell of a lot once he went to America then.

 

Jo

 

 

 

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Michael Benis

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:21 PM

RE: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

 

 

He was part of the feminist movement, and more.

 

 

On Behalf Of Peter Kebbell06 June 2006 16:06 Subject: Re: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

Hi Michael & everyone

 

>>Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

> Yes, and more

 

So, you wouldn't have said that the feminist movement had anything at all to do with it?????

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Hi Michael

 

But he hardly constituted the whole feminist movement.... and I'd also wonder how anyone who treated women with quite such disregard could possibly be classified as a feminist!!!!

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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Michael Benis

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:21 PM

RE: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

 

 

He was part of the feminist movement, and more.

 

 

On Behalf Of Peter Kebbell06 June 2006 16:06 Subject: Re: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

Hi Michael & everyone

 

>>Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

> Yes, and more

 

So, you wouldn't have said that the feminist movement had anything at all to do with it?????

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Really?! Wow, all of those darn protestors must feel pretty stupid.

 

Never knew that one man could do so much!

 

So uh, what more?

 

Nikki - who should have known better than to come back before it was

clear

Sorry guys - go ahead and yell

 

 

, " Michael Benis "

<michaelbenis wrote:

>

> Yes, and more.

>

>

>

On

> Behalf Of heartwerk

> 06 June 2006 08:01

>

> Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

>

> Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

>

> Jo

[Guest guest]

Just a part - a small part - but how was this. He's not like any man I know who has feminist ideals! Surely it was fashionable to be anti-war and he did like media attention. I found him to be quite insincere on most things, and can't help feeling that this is another. Sometimes, after someone dies, especially if they are killed, they become folk heroes for no real reason, and I think this seems to be what has happened in America with John Lennon.

 

Jo

 

 

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Michael Benis

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:21 PM

RE: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

 

 

He was part of the feminist movement, and more.

 

 

On Behalf Of Peter Kebbell06 June 2006 16:06 Subject: Re: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

Hi Michael & everyone

 

>>Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

> Yes, and more

 

So, you wouldn't have said that the feminist movement had anything at all to do with it?????

 

BB

Peter

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

Don't go away - just don't read the posts you don't like - we don't want you getting stressed.

 

Obviously the protesters made no difference at all, being mere humans :-)

 

BBJo

 

 

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earthstrm

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:47 PM

Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

 

Really?! Wow, all of those darn protestors must feel pretty stupid.Never knew that one man could do so much!So uh, what more?Nikki - who should have known better than to come back before it was clearSorry guys - go ahead and yell , "Michael Benis" <michaelbenis wrote:>> Yes, and more. > > > On> Behalf Of heartwerk> 06 June 2006 08:01> > Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration> > Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?> > Jo

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Hi Peter VV,

 

And I have mine! LOL

 

But um, in this instance can I just echo yours?

 

Nikki

 

, peter VV <swpgh01 wrote:

>

> Sure he spoke out against Vietnam, but so did the rest of the

beatles, and half of the other bands around at the time. Yes he

promoted peace but so did loads of other hippies at the time.To that

end he probably was a product of the times he was living in.

> Changed the politics of war? thats a bit strong , what about Dylan?

> Seems to me that he did less and less as he grew to the end of his

time, George seemed to me to do a lot more for charity and fund

raising, but always kept quiet about it ( apart from the Bangeladesh

concert thingy).

> And dont even get started on Yoko!

> Just my opinion, just as you have yours.

>

>

> The Valley Vegan................

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Hi Jo

 

> Don't go away - just don't read the posts you don't like - we

don't want you getting stressed.

 

Thanks! I thought better of it and came back. I am just going to try

not to reply to the ones I can't be nice in. LOL

 

> Obviously the protesters made no difference at all, being mere

humans :-)

 

I was thinking close to the very same thing!

 

BB

Nikki

 

 

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> earthstrm

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> Tuesday, June 06, 2006 7:47 PM

> Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

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> Really?! Wow, all of those darn protestors must feel pretty

stupid.

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> Never knew that one man could do so much!

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> So uh, what more?

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> Nikki - who should have known better than to come back before it

was

> clear

> Sorry guys - go ahead and yell

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> , " Michael Benis "

> <michaelbenis@> wrote:

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> > Yes, and more.

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> On

> > Behalf Of heartwerk

> > 06 June 2006 08:01

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> > Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

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> > Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

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> > Jo

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Such disregard, eh? Wait til you've made a few mistakes yourself! :-)

 

He wasn't the whole of any movement, but that's no reason to put down what he was - someone who cared, some who tried to make a difference etc.

 

I'll admit the "and more" was a bit of wind-up - but he was honest enough about his contradictions and in his thinking. No saint, but then let's leave that for the true believers....

 

Of course he wasn't vegan either....

 

But he was John Lennon and I'm thankful to him for that

 

 

On Behalf Of Peter06 June 2006 19:33 Subject: Re: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

Hi Michael

 

But he hardly constituted the whole feminist movement.... and I'd also wonder how anyone who treated women with quite such disregard could possibly be classified as a feminist!!!!

 

BB

Peter

 

 

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Michael Benis

Tuesday, June 06, 2006 5:21 PM

RE: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

 

 

He was part of the feminist movement, and more.

 

 

On Behalf Of Peter Kebbell06 June 2006 16:06 Subject: Re: Re: John Lennon, my Inspiration

 

Hi Michael & everyone

 

>>Was it due to him that America withdrew from Vietnam?

> Yes, and more

 

So, you wouldn't have said that the feminist movement had anything at all to do with it?????

 

BB

Peter