First Gigs...

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

I think it is only natural for family to protect one another. I don't think

I'll ever come to the States - too far for me, but heavies can be hired you

know :-)

 

BB

Jo

-

" earthstrm " <nikkimack

 

Friday, October 21, 2005 12:09 PM

Re: First Gigs...

 

 

> But Jo you must admit that sometimes Peter is...

>

>

> (sorry, couldn't resist!)

>

> I do know what you mean though, it is that natural motherly instinct

> to protect and defend our child(ren) at all costs.

>

> I think Fraggle meant more from a cultural stand point that it was

> strange to him. Most teens in the US want nothing to do with their

> parents in a public setting. It's a peer pressure / independence type

> thing.

>

> I do have to say though that I know Peter is well aware of how you

> would protect him if need be. In fact I mentioned to him offlist that

> Fraggle or I may not let him leave the states and he pretty much said

> that we would then have to contend with you and it could get ugly. But

> you must know at that point I said that we would keep you too!

>

> BB

> Nikki

> *desperately trying to catch up on posts)

>

> , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> >

> > I'm sorry if I have been a bit sharp but I don't like people saying

> my kids

> > are strange.

> >

> > Jo

>

To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

Ah and perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by:

 

" > You must have a different Bad Company than our Bad Company because

the lead singer, well no one at all from the band was named Paul

Roger. "

 

I thought that you meant the band itself and then after replying

thought perhaps there were two bands with the same name. Which would

be quite possible.

 

Nikki

 

, " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

>

> All the CDs I've got have Brain Howe on vocals. I meant " our " Bad

Company

> CDs. typing too fast.

>

> Lynda

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

I agree - it is definately a unique sound and pleasing to the mind

and soul.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

>

> Hi Nikki

>

> Like minds :-) I also like it when metal bands do metalized

classical

> solos - in the style of Bach, Paganini, Vivaldi, Saint Saens etc.

>

> BB

> Jo

[Guest guest]

fer my side...it didn't have much of a peer pressure issue to it...

i could care less wot others thought of me......

i was the only kid in my skool with *funny* hair..and dealt with it, generally

horribly, on a daily basis

*shrug*

 

 

 

 

earthstrm <nikkimack

Oct 21, 2005 4:09 AM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

But Jo you must admit that sometimes Peter is...

 

(sorry, couldn't resist!)

 

I do know what you mean though, it is that natural motherly instinct

to protect and defend our child(ren) at all costs.

 

I think Fraggle meant more from a cultural stand point that it was

strange to him. Most teens in the US want nothing to do with their

parents in a public setting. It's a peer pressure / independence type

thing.

 

I do have to say though that I know Peter is well aware of how you

would protect him if need be. In fact I mentioned to him offlist that

Fraggle or I may not let him leave the states and he pretty much said

that we would then have to contend with you and it could get ugly. But

you must know at that point I said that we would keep you too!

 

BB

Nikki

*desperately trying to catch up on posts)

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> I'm sorry if I have been a bit sharp but I don't like people saying

my kids

> are strange.

>

> Jo

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

LOL - I never even thought of it that way!

 

I think you would make an excellent Gramma! Not thinking of a Gramma

as the traditionally pictured older blue-haired lady who sits in a

rocker all day.

 

More like a cool Gramma who could hang out. Someone who could be a

good friend, lend advice, hang out and have a supportive role as

well.

 

Zak likes metal too amongst other music - the three of us would

definately have fun!

 

Yes, I do think I would have a great time with you at a concert!

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

>

> LOL Nikki

>

> If I did that would make me a grandma :-) It would be good to go

to a

> concert together.

>

> BB

> Jo

>

> , " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...>

wrote:

> >

> > Hi Jo

> >

> > > LOL - I do try not to look stupid when I go to concerts - just

wear a

> > > band t-shirt - always black of course. If I was young I would

> > > probably wear the goth gear, or some of it - but would look

daft

> > nowadays.

> >

> > Will you adopt me? And if not, then at the least let's go to a

concert

> > together!

> >

> > BB

> > Nikki

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Now, ya see, the problem is that prenatally he probably had the same

reaction to opera that I did. It probably made his soon to be teeh ache <g>

 

when we lived in the Bay Area, we went to the symphany and opera and ballet

on a regular basis. I loved the symphany and ballet but hated the opera!

Muscials, I love. Even operetta I can enjoy but I hated opera!

 

I like a lot of country but can't stand George Jones. The man is obnoxious

and couldn't carry a tune with two people to help him carry the basket!

Leann Rymmes or however the heck you spell her name has a beautiful voice

and can cover 3 octaves!

 

I guess what I like is individual musicians and singers. Although I

generally see rap as crap!

 

Lynda

-

" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Thursday, October 20, 2005 10:35 PM

Re: First Gigs...

 

 

>I agree,

> it would to be a natural thing, if both parents and children

> like the same kind of music. that is a good coincidence.

>

> but my seven year old just announced that he likes country music!

>

> I cannot get over this, I will never like country music!

> it is just tooo corny for me. sorry.

> but, alas,

> I have to accept him, he is his own individual. I just don't want to

> be in the same car when that music is on.(don't tell him)

>

> It cannot be! I used to work at the Metropolitan Opera House!

> this was two and a half years ago, I left to have the baby.

>

> I did not realize this at the time, but I was beginning to have the

> personality

> of an opera snob, because, I hung out with opera snobs, which

> I realize makes me ugly, but know I am not like that,

> opera can be enjoyed, without being a snob.

[Guest guest]

It's ok Fraggle, i do know what you mean! And I don't think it is a

bad thing you and your father didn't hang out. I think it is a good

thing Jo did with her kids.

 

But mayhaps you want to start a new trend... like for instance you

can borrow the Zak Man and take him out.

 

 

Nikki

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> missed out?

> how so mama jo?

> i did a quick estimation...a very very conservative estimate puts

me at over 3000 shows

> (started going to gigs when i was 13...saw generally two shows a

week..most years saw 3-5 a week..worked at clubs since 1989...etc)

> how was i missin out???

> eh...whichever...we just see things different..tis all...

> my father was/is a misogynist racist rightwing ..umm..person...

> don't get me wrong..he's my father..i love him...but hang out with

him????

> *blinks in confusion*

>

> as an aside..i talked this over with my partner...

> and she looked at me like a sprouted horns when i asked if she and

her dad went t oshows together...and he was a punk..

> finally she admitted " yeah, once..when i turned 15 and he got all

weird and didn't want me to go to shows alone anymore, and insisted

he come along....i moved out two weeks later.. "

>

> we all just have different expectations and family lives i guess...

>

> thanx fer all yer inputs tho

>

> fraggle

[Guest guest]

I meant our CDS of Bad Company. I was typing too fast and listening to the

kidlet at the same time.

 

Lynda

-

" earthstrm " <nikkimack

 

Friday, October 21, 2005 9:17 AM

Re: First Gigs...

 

 

> Ah and perhaps I misunderstood what you meant by:

>

> " > You must have a different Bad Company than our Bad Company because

> the lead singer, well no one at all from the band was named Paul

> Roger. "

>

> I thought that you meant the band itself and then after replying

> thought perhaps there were two bands with the same name. Which would

> be quite possible.

>

> Nikki

>

> , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

>>

>> All the CDs I've got have Brain Howe on vocals. I meant " our " Bad

> Company

>> CDs. typing too fast.

>>

>> Lynda

>

To send an email to -

>

[Guest guest]

somehow i don't think we'd make the show tho, if i had to pick him up....

 

 

earthstrm <nikkimack

Oct 21, 2005 11:30 AM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

It's ok Fraggle, i do know what you mean! And I don't think it is a

bad thing you and your father didn't hang out. I think it is a good

thing Jo did with her kids.

 

But mayhaps you want to start a new trend... like for instance you

can borrow the Zak Man and take him out.

 

 

Nikki

 

 

 

The propagandist's purpose is to make one set of people forget that certain

other

sets of people are human: Aldous Huxley

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

> When we saw Page & Plant in the mid 1990s he didn't seem to have any

trouble...

 

 

We used their remake of " Thank You " as our wedding song in 96.

 

BB

Nikki

[Guest guest]

Hi Peter

 

> No - this was not evil twins... this was drugs and alcohol. I find

it rather

> ironic that James Hetfield can still sing Master of Puppets without

> cringing.

 

No kidding! But it is good that he can move past it.

 

> > There are 3 kinds of Metallica fans - pre-black album, post-black

> > album and then very very few who like both.

>

> I've yet to meet one of the 3rd sort :-)

 

I have actually only met one. It's the only way I knew they existed

and it shocked me she liked both!

 

 

> > So I just pre-tend that they disbanded after Justice and then

some

> > garage band came in and now does their music. lol

>

> That's about how I see it as well. It's such a shame, because they

were *so*

> good - both on album and live!

 

I agree! We went to see them after the album after Black and were

quite disappointed. It was our own fault really. We kept waiting to

hear a good song and they only played two older ones at the end.

 

The rest of the concert was decent tho!

 

BB

Nikki

[Guest guest]

Ten years soon then Nikki :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

, " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> wrote:

>

> Hi Peter

>

> > When we saw Page & Plant in the mid 1990s he didn't seem to have any

> trouble...

>

>

> We used their remake of " Thank You " as our wedding song in 96.

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

[Guest guest]

I don't know yet. I would like to go but there is also a Samhain

Druid ritual at Avebury - so I'm defintely in two minds at present.

 

Jo

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> R U?

>

> THe Valley Vegan............

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

> ... am I going?

>

> Jo

>

> , peter hurd wrote:

> >

> > Tightwad...........maybe I`ll get Jo to point you out!

> >

> > The Valley Vegan................

> >

> > Peter wrote:

> > Hi Peter

> >

> > > Maybe I`ll see you at the Yoah vegan festival in Bristol, you buy

> me the real thing!

> >

> > You may well do... but since you've not seen a photo of me, you

> wouldn't know who I am... so I can easily avoid buying cake... I'll

> just claim that I'm Ephraim Gadsby, and you'll never know. :-)

> >

> > BB

> > Peter

> >

> >

> > To send an email to

-

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group " " on the web.

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

I think we saw them once after the Load album, but it wasn't as good.

 

The best concert of theirs was one a few years before when they did 3

hours solid :-)

 

BB

Jo

 

 

, " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...> wrote:

>

> Hi Peter

>

> > No - this was not evil twins... this was drugs and alcohol. I find

> it rather

> > ironic that James Hetfield can still sing Master of Puppets without

> > cringing.

>

> No kidding! But it is good that he can move past it.

>

> > > There are 3 kinds of Metallica fans - pre-black album, post-black

> > > album and then very very few who like both.

> >

> > I've yet to meet one of the 3rd sort :-)

>

> I have actually only met one. It's the only way I knew they existed

> and it shocked me she liked both!

>

>

> > > So I just pre-tend that they disbanded after Justice and then

> some

> > > garage band came in and now does their music. lol

> >

> > That's about how I see it as well. It's such a shame, because they

> were *so*

> > good - both on album and live!

>

> I agree! We went to see them after the album after Black and were

> quite disappointed. It was our own fault really. We kept waiting to

> hear a good song and they only played two older ones at the end.

>

> The rest of the concert was decent tho!

>

> BB

> Nikki

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo / Anouk

 

I don't mind some country either.

 

I basically love to move and dance, so if it has a rythm I can get

into, I love it.

 

I just love music! It moves me.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

>

> HI Anouk

>

> There was a time when I liked country music - we used to listen to

> the country music programme on the radio every Thursday evening.

Now

> I can't listen for long. There are only two types of music I

can't

> stand, the first being rap, and the second the wailing sort -

Whitney

> Houston, or the girl wailing in Pink Floyd.

>

> Jo

[Guest guest]

LOL! But you see Jo, I wouldn't fear the heavies.

 

It's the loving protective Mom's ya have to watch out for. They

fight with their lives.

 

Don't worry. I promise that we will not hurt him in any way. We'll

even send pics to you of what a great time he is having seeing the

sights.

 

Just kidding - I could never do that. And I know that you know that,

but there is always that fear in the back of people's minds.

Especially on a travel of that distance.

 

Besides, even though there is a lot to do here in Chicago and by

Fraggle, after awhile everyone wants to be home.

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> Hi Nikki

>

> I think it is only natural for family to protect one another. I

don't think

> I'll ever come to the States - too far for me, but heavies can be

hired you

> know :-)

>

> BB

> Jo

[Guest guest]

My cousin-in-law makes weekly runs to FL - I will see if he can jot

Zak over to my Mom's in TX. Will that make it easier? Much closer to

ya!

 

Nikki

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> somehow i don't think we'd make the show tho, if i had to pick him

up....

>

>

> earthstrm <nikkimack@m...>

> Oct 21, 2005 11:30 AM

>

> Re: First Gigs...

>

> It's ok Fraggle, i do know what you mean! And I don't think it is

a

> bad thing you and your father didn't hang out. I think it is a

good

> thing Jo did with her kids.

>

> But mayhaps you want to start a new trend... like for instance you

> can borrow the Zak Man and take him out.

>

>

>

> Nikki

[Guest guest]

i am NOT going to tejas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

 

 

earthstrm <nikkimack

Oct 22, 2005 5:58 AM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

My cousin-in-law makes weekly runs to FL - I will see if he can jot

Zak over to my Mom's in TX. Will that make it easier? Much closer to

ya!

 

Nikki

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> somehow i don't think we'd make the show tho, if i had to pick him

up....

>

>

> earthstrm <nikkimack@m...>

> Oct 21, 2005 11:30 AM

>

> Re: First Gigs...

>

> It's ok Fraggle, i do know what you mean! And I don't think it is

a

> bad thing you and your father didn't hang out. I think it is a

good

> thing Jo did with her kids.

>

> But mayhaps you want to start a new trend... like for instance you

> can borrow the Zak Man and take him out.

>

>

>

> Nikki

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Nikki

 

You are right there.

 

BB

Jo

 

-

" earthstrm " <nikkimack

 

Saturday, October 22, 2005 2:25 PM

Re: First Gigs...

 

 

> LOL! But you see Jo, I wouldn't fear the heavies.

>

> It's the loving protective Mom's ya have to watch out for. They

> fight with their lives.

[Guest guest]

Hi Jo

 

I know, still cannot believe it. Together 11.

 

I keep telling DH that this is the longest relationship I've ever

had! lol

 

BB

Nikki

 

, " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...>

wrote:

>

> Ten years soon then Nikki :-)

>

> BB

> Jo

>

> , " earthstrm " <nikkimack@m...>

wrote:

> >

> > Hi Peter

> >

> > > When we saw Page & Plant in the mid 1990s he didn't seem to

have any

> > trouble...

> >

> >

> > We used their remake of " Thank You " as our wedding song in 96.

> >

> > BB

> > Nikki

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Any particular reason...

 

Nikki

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> i am NOT going to tejas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>

[Guest guest]

its a big ugly state...

spawning ground of george jr and a whole nest of nasty ppl

several times on tour with bands we've been pulled over as soon as we crossed

the state line by tejas state police..

its a redneck hellhole...

sorry..i LOATHE texas...

do those reasons work fer ya?

fraggle

 

 

earthstrm <nikkimack

Oct 24, 2005 2:31 PM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

Any particular reason...

 

Nikki

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> i am NOT going to tejas!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

R u trying to get out of taking Zak to a show?

 

Fine, he'll meet ya at the border, that ok?

 

Nikki

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> its a big ugly state...

> spawning ground of george jr and a whole nest of nasty ppl

> several times on tour with bands we've been pulled over as soon as

we crossed the state line by tejas state police..

> its a redneck hellhole...

> sorry..i LOATHE texas...

> do those reasons work fer ya?

>

> fraggle

[Guest guest]

border of oakland???

 

 

earthstrm <nikkimack

Oct 24, 2005 4:24 PM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

R u trying to get out of taking Zak to a show?

 

Fine, he'll meet ya at the border, that ok?

 

Nikki

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> its a big ugly state...

> spawning ground of george jr and a whole nest of nasty ppl

> several times on tour with bands we've been pulled over as soon as

we crossed the state line by tejas state police..

> its a redneck hellhole...

> sorry..i LOATHE texas...

> do those reasons work fer ya?

>

> fraggle

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Silly, Fraggle. Whaddja do, drive a car with California plates! If you

drive in TX you have to either drive something that does NOT have CA plates

OR drive a 4x4 pulling a horse trailer! Works every time!

 

Lynda

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

Monday, October 24, 2005 11:57 AM

Re: Re: First Gigs...

 

 

> its a big ugly state...

> spawning ground of george jr and a whole nest of nasty ppl

> several times on tour with bands we've been pulled over as soon as we

> crossed the state line by tejas state police..

> its a redneck hellhole...

> sorry..i LOATHE texas...

> do those reasons work fer ya?

>

> fraggle