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Oh Fraggle, that is just so last summer and here I thought we were going to

be BFF!

 

Lynda, <<bg>>

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

 

> go live yer live

> i'm gonna live mine

> :)

> sorry

> none of ya are speakin the same language

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oh..and not takin any offense at all

yerjust talkin about stuff which doesn't compute at all in my wee tiny mind at

all

no biggie

:)

 

 

heartwerk <jo.heartwork

Oct 18, 2005 3:38 PM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

I don't want to dig too deep, or offend, just trying to understand,

but you're still using the word 'bringing' as though there was a power

struggle and you didn't want to lose control.

 

BB

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> maybe twice

>

> my father stopped drinkin in the mid 80's, right after i left..he

had a really bad accident, and lost his pancreas and spleen

> he takes a handful of pills with every meal...

>

> sorry..it just strikes me as odd..bringing one's parents to a show

when yer a kid er a teen....

> no offense

>

> don't get me wrong, my father and i still did some things when i was

a teen..but...i don't even know if i would consider him a friend...he

was my father..and that was that....

> our family togetherness consisted of going to california all

summer..and even then, by my mid teens, i was off on my own...

>

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> Oct 18, 2005 4:26 PM

>

> Re: First Gigs...

>

> Your word 'bringing' is not what happens in my family though. Nobody

> 'brings' anyone - we all go together - joint decision, no coercing or

> pressure - all equal - all enjoying and out for fun. Since my kids

> have grown up I would hope to be considered a friend.

>

> Did you ever go to the pub for a drink with your father?

>

> Jo

>

>

> When they kick out your front door

> How you gonna come?

> With your hands on your head

> Or on the trigger of your gun

>

> When the law break in

> How you gonna go?

> Shot down on the pavement

> Or waiting on death row

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Hi peter,

44 is not too old to dance!

 

 

I went to a metallica concert once in long island,(nassau coloseum or

something)

and it was the weirdest one I had ever been to.

everybody was sitting properly in their chair.

no mosh pit no nothing. I felt like

I was at church.

 

I have gone on mosh pits but the guys are too rough.

one time a guy held out his hand and told me to put my foot in his hand.

I said why?

he said just do it.

next thing I know I was crowd surfing to green day. that was at

woodstock 94.

I think if he had asked me a different way I would have said no.

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Ah, that makes two ya know now Fraggle <g> And ya know Jo and I agree on

nothing <<bg>>

 

I guess we agree on family and it would be a family thing. Families are a

together thing, not a seperate thing.

 

My sister and I went to concerts with my mom, motorcycle riding with my dad

(guess where the Harley came from <<eg>>), Day on the Green with 3

generations (including teenagers).

 

About the only thing we didn't do was People's Park and they did give us

rides to get there!

 

Lynda

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

 

> wot power struggle jo????

> bringing(yes bringing) my father to a show as a wee fraggle just

> sounds...how can i explain this.,.sounds absolutely terrifying

>

> he had his life...i had mine...

> never the twain shall meet....

>

> why would there be a power strugle

> maybe it was about...tryin to take my own path...discover a different way

>

> seriously..you all are the first ppl i've ever head of who even remotely

> would have thought of going out with there teen age lil ones.....

>

> everyone is different

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I think he was injured by the foot of a crowd surfer.

 

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> metal pits always were more violent then punk pits.....

> different style of dancing....

>

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> Oct 18, 2005 4:57 PM

>

> Re: First Gigs...

>

> LOL - very true - although I haven't seen so many injuries lately.

I

> remember your friend Chris got a black eye and blood nose.

>

> BB

> Jo

>

> , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote:

> >

> > Hi Peter

> >

> > > Circle pits/mosh pits not for the elderly!

> >

> > Or for anyone who thinks that bones are meant to remain in one

> piece, and prefer their blood to remain inside their body!

> >

> > BB

> > Peter

> >

>

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Well, if they like it, why not?

 

Jo

 

, peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote:

>

> Ther was a time when there was always some bright spark who felt

the need to try and remember all of Hotel Caifornia or

Freebird!..lifes too short.

>

> The Valley Vegan............

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote:

>

> and before that it was always a Fleetwood Mac riff - the one that

was

> the introductory tune for F1 Grand Prix.

>

> Jo

>

> , " heartwerk " wrote:

> >

> > Admittedly I haven't been in a guitar shop for about five years,

but

> > ... the last several times I was, people picked up guitars and

played

> > a Metallica riff - can't remember which one.

> >

> > Jo

> >

> > , peter hurd wrote:

> > >

> > > Hi Peter,

> > > What do you mean rapidly approaching? I thought they were

already

> there?

> > > Every Guitar shops nightmare, someone either picks up an

electric

> > and plays smoke on the water, or picks up an acoustic and plays

> > stairway! They must hear them 10 times a day!

> > >

> > > The Valley Vegan..............

> > >

> > > Peter wrote:

> > > Hi Peter

> > >

> > > > My problem with them was they were like every other band

around at

> > the time, only not in the same league as the likes of

> > > > Iron Maiden an Def Lepard, neither of whom I was partial to.

> > >

> > > I'm not a huge fan of Saxon, but do appreciate their music when

I

> > hear it. The real question is... which one were they like? Iron

Maiden

> > or Def Leppard... I mean, the two are wiles apart in terms of

style.

> > Maiden are classic NWOBHM, Def Leppard are much more heavy rock.

> > >

> > > > Oh and by the way, I doubt whether any of the bands of that

ilk (

> > Saxon/Magnum et all ) will ever be as legendary/infamous

> > > > as the likes of Johnny Cash, whos musical heritage goes back

to

> > Sun Records with Elvis etc . Not that I like JC much

> > > > anyhoo.

> > >

> > > Depends entirely on how much publicity they get. I think Black

> > Sabbath, Led Zeppelin and Deep Purple are rapidly approaching that

> > legendary status (is there anyone who hasn't heard of them in the

> > Western world????). Just about everyone knows Stairway to Heaven

and

> > Smoke on The Water, even if they don't know who played them.

> > >

> > > BB

> > > Peter

> > >

> > >

> > > To send an email to

> -

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Visit your group " " on the web.

> > >

> > >

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We were always pleased when our kids friends liked us. One of

Laura's friends used to call on us for help rather than his own

father - which was a compliment to us, but a bit sad really.

 

BB

Jo

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

>

> I think that fraggle is talking

> about a generation gap.

> some older people (not jo nor lynda)

> are very much a representation of their generation

> and stay there.

>

> my mom for instance, was raised in a convent and

> she could not possible relate to the things that

> I was interested in, nor could I confide in her

> being that she was judmental about things

> she did not understand.

>

> I think it is great that Jo and Lynda are cool moms.

> I aim to be that way too. for a kid,

> when your friends like your parents,

> that is the biggest compliment.

>

>

> , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Geez, Fraggle, all the teens always went everywhere with us, and

> still do,

> > including concerts and stuff AND even the mall! That would be our

> kidlets,

> > the foster kids and the " orphans " (throw away kids the kidlets

> brought home

>

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I was interested in your choices because you seemed to think I (and

my family) were strange for doing things together, even though you

didn't mean to cause offense. From my experience it is fairly normal

for parents and adult offspring to share things they like.

 

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> wot power struggle jo????

> bringing(yes bringing) my father to a show as a wee fraggle just

sounds...how can i explain this.,.sounds absolutely terrifying

>

> he had his life...i had mine...

> never the twain shall meet....

>

> why would there be a power strugle

> maybe it was about...tryin to take my own path...discover a

different way

>

> seriously..you all are the first ppl i've ever head of who even

remotely would have thought of going out with there teen age lil

ones.....

>

> everyone is different

>

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> Oct 18, 2005 3:38 PM

>

> Re: First Gigs...

>

> I don't want to dig too deep, or offend, just trying to understand,

> but you're still using the word 'bringing' as though there was a

power

> struggle and you didn't want to lose control.

>

> BB

> Jo

>

> , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> >

> > maybe twice

> >

> > my father stopped drinkin in the mid 80's, right after i left..he

> had a really bad accident, and lost his pancreas and spleen

> > he takes a handful of pills with every meal...

> >

> > sorry..it just strikes me as odd..bringing one's parents to a show

> when yer a kid er a teen....

> > no offense

> >

> > don't get me wrong, my father and i still did some things when i

was

> a teen..but...i don't even know if i would consider him a

friend...he

> was my father..and that was that....

> > our family togetherness consisted of going to california all

> summer..and even then, by my mid teens, i was off on my own...

> >

> >

> > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> > Oct 18, 2005 4:26 PM

> >

> > Re: First Gigs...

> >

> > Your word 'bringing' is not what happens in my family though.

Nobody

> > 'brings' anyone - we all go together - joint decision, no

coercing or

> > pressure - all equal - all enjoying and out for fun. Since my

kids

> > have grown up I would hope to be considered a friend.

> >

> > Did you ever go to the pub for a drink with your father?

> >

> > Jo

> >

> >

> > When they kick out your front door

> > How you gonna come?

> > With your hands on your head

> > Or on the trigger of your gun

> >

> > When the law break in

> > How you gonna go?

> > Shot down on the pavement

> > Or waiting on death row

> >

>

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i had just never ever heard of the like before....

 

 

 

heartwerk <jo.heartwork

Oct 19, 2005 12:08 AM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

I was interested in your choices because you seemed to think I (and

my family) were strange for doing things together, even though you

didn't mean to cause offense. From my experience it is fairly normal

for parents and adult offspring to share things they like.

 

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> wot power struggle jo????

> bringing(yes bringing) my father to a show as a wee fraggle just

sounds...how can i explain this.,.sounds absolutely terrifying

>

> he had his life...i had mine...

> never the twain shall meet....

>

> why would there be a power strugle

> maybe it was about...tryin to take my own path...discover a

different way

>

> seriously..you all are the first ppl i've ever head of who even

remotely would have thought of going out with there teen age lil

ones.....

>

> everyone is different

>

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> Oct 18, 2005 3:38 PM

>

> Re: First Gigs...

>

> I don't want to dig too deep, or offend, just trying to understand,

> but you're still using the word 'bringing' as though there was a

power

> struggle and you didn't want to lose control.

>

> BB

> Jo

>

> , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> >

> > maybe twice

> >

> > my father stopped drinkin in the mid 80's, right after i left..he

> had a really bad accident, and lost his pancreas and spleen

> > he takes a handful of pills with every meal...

> >

> > sorry..it just strikes me as odd..bringing one's parents to a show

> when yer a kid er a teen....

> > no offense

> >

> > don't get me wrong, my father and i still did some things when i

was

> a teen..but...i don't even know if i would consider him a

friend...he

> was my father..and that was that....

> > our family togetherness consisted of going to california all

> summer..and even then, by my mid teens, i was off on my own...

> >

> >

> > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> > Oct 18, 2005 4:26 PM

> >

> > Re: First Gigs...

> >

> > Your word 'bringing' is not what happens in my family though.

Nobody

> > 'brings' anyone - we all go together - joint decision, no

coercing or

> > pressure - all equal - all enjoying and out for fun. Since my

kids

> > have grown up I would hope to be considered a friend.

> >

> > Did you ever go to the pub for a drink with your father?

> >

> > Jo

> >

> >

> > When they kick out your front door

> > How you gonna come?

> > With your hands on your head

> > Or on the trigger of your gun

> >

> > When the law break in

> > How you gonna go?

> > Shot down on the pavement

> > Or waiting on death row

> >

>

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Hi Anouk

 

I can't imagine sitting down to Metallica.

 

Jo

 

-

" Anouk Sickler " <zurumato

 

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 6:47 AM

Re: First Gigs...

 

 

> Hi peter,

> 44 is not too old to dance!

>

>

> I went to a metallica concert once in long island,(nassau coloseum or

> something)

> and it was the weirdest one I had ever been to.

> everybody was sitting properly in their chair.

> no mosh pit no nothing. I felt like

> I was at church.

>

> I have gone on mosh pits but the guys are too rough.

> one time a guy held out his hand and told me to put my foot in his hand.

> I said why?

> he said just do it.

> next thing I know I was crowd surfing to green day. that was at

> woodstock 94.

> I think if he had asked me a different way I would have said no.

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I'm sorry if I have been a bit sharp but I don't like people saying my kids

are strange.

 

Jo

 

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

Wednesday, October 19, 2005 4:33 PM

Re: Re: First Gigs...

 

 

> i had just never ever heard of the like before....

>

>

>

> heartwerk <jo.heartwork

> Oct 19, 2005 12:08 AM

>

> Re: First Gigs...

>

> I was interested in your choices because you seemed to think I (and

> my family) were strange for doing things together, even though you

> didn't mean to cause offense. From my experience it is fairly normal

> for parents and adult offspring to share things they like.

>

> Jo

>

> , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> >

> > wot power struggle jo????

> > bringing(yes bringing) my father to a show as a wee fraggle just

> sounds...how can i explain this.,.sounds absolutely terrifying

> >

> > he had his life...i had mine...

> > never the twain shall meet....

> >

> > why would there be a power strugle

> > maybe it was about...tryin to take my own path...discover a

> different way

> >

> > seriously..you all are the first ppl i've ever head of who even

> remotely would have thought of going out with there teen age lil

> ones.....

> >

> > everyone is different

> >

> >

> > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> > Oct 18, 2005 3:38 PM

> >

> > Re: First Gigs...

> >

> > I don't want to dig too deep, or offend, just trying to understand,

> > but you're still using the word 'bringing' as though there was a

> power

> > struggle and you didn't want to lose control.

> >

> > BB

> > Jo

> >

> > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

> > >

> > > maybe twice

> > >

> > > my father stopped drinkin in the mid 80's, right after i left..he

> > had a really bad accident, and lost his pancreas and spleen

> > > he takes a handful of pills with every meal...

> > >

> > > sorry..it just strikes me as odd..bringing one's parents to a show

> > when yer a kid er a teen....

> > > no offense

> > >

> > > don't get me wrong, my father and i still did some things when i

> was

> > a teen..but...i don't even know if i would consider him a

> friend...he

> > was my father..and that was that....

> > > our family togetherness consisted of going to california all

> > summer..and even then, by my mid teens, i was off on my own...

> > >

> > >

> > > heartwerk <jo.heartwork@g...>

> > > Oct 18, 2005 4:26 PM

> > >

> > > Re: First Gigs...

> > >

> > > Your word 'bringing' is not what happens in my family though.

> Nobody

> > > 'brings' anyone - we all go together - joint decision, no

> coercing or

> > > pressure - all equal - all enjoying and out for fun. Since my

> kids

> > > have grown up I would hope to be considered a friend.

> > >

> > > Did you ever go to the pub for a drink with your father?

> > >

> > > Jo

> > >

> > >

> > > When they kick out your front door

> > > How you gonna come?

> > > With your hands on your head

> > > Or on the trigger of your gun

> > >

> > > When the law break in

> > > How you gonna go?

> > > Shot down on the pavement

> > > Or waiting on death row

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > To send an email to -

>

> >

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*shrug*

everyone is different i guess

and, i did an informal poll at work today

went around and asked " so, when you were a teen, how would you have felt if yer

parents wanted to go to a show with you "

to a person, all i got was laughter and/or shock....

no one could imagine being 16 and havin mom hang out with em at a concert....

 

at least i know i'm not totally insane now..just slightly

:)

cheers

fraggle

 

 

 

Lynda <lurine

Oct 18, 2005 11:19 PM

 

Re: Re: First Gigs...

 

Ah, that makes two ya know now Fraggle <g> And ya know Jo and I agree on

nothing <<bg>>

 

I guess we agree on family and it would be a family thing. Families are a

together thing, not a seperate thing.

 

My sister and I went to concerts with my mom, motorcycle riding with my dad

(guess where the Harley came from <<eg>>), Day on the Green with 3

generations (including teenagers).

 

About the only thing we didn't do was People's Park and they did give us

rides to get there!

 

Lynda

-

" fraggle " <EBbrewpunx

 

 

 

When they kick out your front door

How you gonna come?

With your hands on your head

Or on the trigger of your gun

 

When the law break in

How you gonna go?

Shot down on the pavement

Or waiting on death row

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heh

off on a slight tangent here

i was just complainin the other day how " kids today can't stage dive "

hahahahahha

they tend to either clip you at shoulder level er dive into a spot with no

people...

kids today!

hee hee hee..makes me sound sooo old!

dang kids.....why back in my day.......

 

 

heartwerk <jo.heartwork

Oct 18, 2005 11:43 PM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

I think he was injured by the foot of a crowd surfer.

 

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> metal pits always were more violent then punk pits.....

> different style of dancing....

>

 

When they kick out your front door

How you gonna come?

With your hands on your head

Or on the trigger of your gun

 

When the law break in

How you gonna go?

Shot down on the pavement

Or waiting on death row

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now how come you weren't my neighbor when i was a wee fraggle jo?

life is so unfair

 

 

heartwerk <jo.heartwork

Oct 19, 2005 12:00 AM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

We were always pleased when our kids friends liked us. One of

Laura's friends used to call on us for help rather than his own

father - which was a compliment to us, but a bit sad really.

 

BB

Jo

 

, " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...>

wrote:

>

> I think that fraggle is talking

> about a generation gap.

> some older people (not jo nor lynda)

> are very much a representation of their generation

> and stay there.

>

> my mom for instance, was raised in a convent and

> she could not possible relate to the things that

> I was interested in, nor could I confide in her

> being that she was judmental about things

> she did not understand.

>

> I think it is great that Jo and Lynda are cool moms.

> I aim to be that way too. for a kid,

> when your friends like your parents,

> that is the biggest compliment.

>

>

> , " Lynda " <lurine@s...> wrote:

> >

> > Geez, Fraggle, all the teens always went everywhere with us, and

> still do,

> > including concerts and stuff AND even the mall! That would be our

> kidlets,

> > the foster kids and the " orphans " (throw away kids the kidlets

> brought home

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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nah..its no problem

we are just destined to not understand each other on this subject

life goes on

:)

 

 

heartwerk <jo.heartwork

Oct 19, 2005 12:00 AM

 

Re: First Gigs...

 

That's why I was trying to understand your viewpoint/situation.

Sorry if I've hit a sore spot.

 

Jo

 

, fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote:

>

> go live yer live

> i'm gonna live mine

> :)

> sorry

> none of ya are speakin the same language

>

>

> Lynda <lurine@s...>

> Oct 18, 2005 12:58 PM

>

> Re: Re: First Gigs...

>

> Geez, Fraggle, all the teens always went everywhere with us, and

still do,

> including concerts and stuff AND even the mall! That would be our

kidlets,

> the foster kids and the " orphans " (throw away kids the kidlets

brought home

> or that just attached themselves to our home) plus all the kids

they knew

> from various schools.

>

> Heck, we even bought a Suburban so we could pile more kids in it to

go more

> places!

>

> Whatsa ya problem, as Papa would say.

>

> Lynda

> -

> " fraggle " <EBbrewpunx@e...>

>

>

> > has nothin to do with age

> > the thought of bein a teen, and going to a show with my father

is, well,

> > appaling!!

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Hi Jo

 

> LOL - I do try not to look stupid when I go to concerts - just wear a

> band t-shirt - always black of course. If I was young I would

> probably wear the goth gear, or some of it - but would look daft nowadays.

 

I dunno... there's some goths in Bristol in their 50s... it's a slightly

different style, but the art seems to be in just doing goth things that

don't make you look as though you think you're in your 20s. It works well

for them!

 

BB

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Hi Peter

 

> By the way the reference was to his old band Elf, which I assumed was his own piss take on his height.

 

It was partly because of Ronnie, and partly because of his cousin, who was also a member, and also of similar height... they were originally called "The Electric Elves", but changed their name in about 1972 before recording their first album... some 14 years after the first album Dio recorded with The Vegas Kings. Amazing to think that he's been active on the music scene for 47 years... I bet not many people can match that!

 

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Hi Jo

 

> That's the one :-) That was the first Metallica one I heard live - I

> didn't stop grinning for a week.

 

Ah yes... at the Freddie Mercury Tribute IIRC! :-)

 

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Hi Peter

 

> Without wishing to sound like a broken record, I never was much into Priest and therefore didnt listen to much, but what I

> did hear didnt do it for me. Sure they are good guitarists, but the point I was trying to make was that they are second

> generation guitarists who would probably list the likes of Page/ Blackmore as their influences, and to my cloth ears dont

> have the individual style that their forebearers had.

 

Priest formed in 1969 - the same year as Deep Purple. I know that Blackmore had been around in groups like Screaming Lord Such and the Savages, but wasn't really *that* well known to be influencing people. Page had been around a few years longer (joined the Yardbirds in 1966), but I don't really think that he had such an individual style until Led Zep in 1969... so I wouldn't really call Priest "second generation" compared to them. And when you consider that *no-one* was doing what Priest did in 1969, I don't think it's possible to argue that they didn't have an individual style.... a lot of people have since copied them, but they were the first!

 

 

> What ever happend to Richie anyway? anyone know?, and as for Mr Page, the last I saw of him he was a lot fatter, and

> didnt shine like he used to? Is there an old guitarists home somewhere?

 

Blackmore is now well immersed into "Blackmore's Night", the folk-with-a-hint-of-rock group with his partner, Candice Night. I think they are exceptionally good folk music, but have to be in the right mood to listen to it. Page I haven't heard anything of since the late 1990s when Page & Plant did a couple of albums.

 

And I'll give a virtual vegan chocolate cake to anyone who can tell me the name of the group that Blackmore and Page *both* played in, at different times, before they were famous! And as a clue, Mick Abrahams of Jethro Tull fame, and Albert Lee also played guitar in the same group... all before they were well known!!!!

 

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Hi Peter

 

> What do you know , we actually agree on something! I just cant imagine Paul Rodgers attempting some of the Queen

> repetoire, apparently he is doing some of his back catalogue in the live set amongst the Queen songs! sounds a strange idea

> to me, but without hearing it who knows?

 

Wow... what happened????

 

> To many people Queen was all about the camp singer and the distinctive perm sporting guitar sound, oh and two other guys.

> Freddie was at least 50% of Queen and they should have quit after his untimely demise. (opinion only)

 

Opinion largely supported by me. I don't really think they should have gone on with *any* other than the regular four - they all contributed so much, and all had a style of their own!

 

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> Yup and a lot of the front men don't know when to give it up. With age, some of their voices start to head south.

 

I'm struggling to think of an example... Rob Halford, 35 years and getting better. Ronnie Dio, 47 years and getting better. Bob Catley, 30 years and getting better. James LaBrie, 20 years and getting better. Geddy Lee, 30 or so years and is *way* better than he was when he started....

 

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Was that the time they did stuff with an orchestra?

 

The Valley Vegan..........Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote:

Hi peter,44 is not too old to dance!I went to a metallica concert once in long island,(nassau coloseum orsomething)and it was the weirdest one I had ever been to. everybody was sitting properly in their chair. no mosh pit no nothing. I felt like I was at church. I have gone on mosh pits but the guys are too rough. one time a guy held out his hand and told me to put my foot in his hand.I said why?he said just do it. next thing I know I was crowd surfing to green day. that was atwoodstock 94. I think if he had asked me a different way I would have said no.

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> Dio still sings the same as ever - he must be about 63 now. Rob

> Halford did opt out of a couple of the high screams last time we saw

> him, but he does a lot heavier music/singing now.

 

But the screams that Rob backed out of were from the Ripper songs... and

Ripper really could scream. Not sure that Rob could ever do *those*

screams!!!

 

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Nah, generation gap is just the half of it I think with Frag. I think its just that they werent that close full stop.

 

 

The Valley Vegan............Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote:

I think that fraggle is talking about a generation gap.some older people (not jo nor lynda)are very much a representation of their generation and stay there. my mom for instance, was raised in a convent and she could not possible relate to the things that I was interested in, nor could I confide in herbeing that she was judmental about things she did not understand. I think it is great that Jo and Lynda are cool moms.I aim to be that way too. for a kid, when your friends like your parents, that is the biggest compliment. , "Lynda" wrote:>> Geez, Fraggle, all the teens always went everywhere with us, andstill do, > including concerts and stuff AND even the mall! That would be ourkidlets, > the foster kids and the "orphans" (throw away

kids the kidletsbrought home

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Thats the problem, people buying instruments in guitar shops are invariably novice players who are not that good and concentrate like mad on one or two songs. Something a bit more challenging sometimes taxes their ability.

 

The Valley Vegan.............Lynda <lurine wrote:

 

Ah, how does one forget them? One either remembers them or one doesn't. Yes? No?

 

Lynda

 

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peter hurd

Tuesday, October 18, 2005 2:01 PM

Re: Re: First Gigs...

 

Ther was a time when there was always some bright spark who felt the need to try and remember all of Hotel Caifornia or Freebird!..lifes too short.

 

The Valley Vegan............Peter H

 

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