Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Nikki > I wasn't big into Sabbath after Ozzy left either. Well you should try some of the Dio stuff... particularly Dehumanizer. If you don't expect the same Sabbath sound, then you might enjoy them... I reckon that the singer of Sabbath has always been the main influence for their sound... Ozzy's solo stuff is an extension of what he did in Sabbath, Dio's solo stuff like-wise, when Ian Gillan was with them they had a Gillan tinge... BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 *shrug* its all i know..... seriously..almost everyone i know has had much worse experiences then me... shall i tell you about the person who's mom locked her in a closet almost her entire childhood, til CPS came and took her away? her mom told her she was part of a scientific experiment.... whee....ppl are fun heartwerk <jo.heartwork Oct 20, 2005 11:02 AM Re: First Gigs... I'm sorry about your bad experience of parents and concerts Fraggle - I can quite see why it put you off the idea. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > the only image i have is in a mirror > > When they kick out your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting on death row Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 ah.. well..i did things with my dad..just by the time i was a teen, those got fewer and farther apart... we use to go on hikes all the time, and all that just that by my teenage years i also began to seriously question wot he stood for.... heartwerk <jo.heartwork Oct 20, 2005 11:07 AM Re: First Gigs... Hi Fraggle I didn't mean you missed out on doing anything like going to concerts or having fun - I just meant sharing some things with your dad - but from what you say, I understand. Jo --- When they kick out your front door How you gonna come? With your hands on your head Or on the trigger of your gun When the law break in How you gonna go? Shot down on the pavement Or waiting on death row Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 > > All the CDs I've got have Brain Howe on vocals. I meant " our " Bad Company > > CDs. typing too fast. Brian Howe replaced Paul Rodgers from 1986-1991. In 1991, Steve Walsh took over, and in 1994 Robert Hart. Not sure if he's still the singer, or even if they're still going! Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Jo / Nikki > Like minds :-) I also like it when metal bands do metalized classical > solos - in the style of Bach, Paganini, Vivaldi, Saint Saens etc. John Petrucci's version of Flight of The Bumble Bee is something to hear!!! :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Peter > Well, both did tons of session work in the early sixties, and no doubt crossed paths on several occassions. The Crusaders? Congratulations... have a virtual vegan cake :-) It was indeed Neil Christian and the Crusaders... who managed to start the careers of no less than four exceptionally talented guitarists! And one who no-one has seen or heard from since!!!! BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Maybe I`ll see you at the Yoah vegan festival in Bristol, you buy me the real thing! The Valley Vegan........... Hi Peter > Well, both did tons of session work in the early sixties, and no doubt crossed paths on several occassions. The Crusaders? Congratulations... have a virtual vegan cake :-) It was indeed Neil Christian and the Crusaders... who managed to start the careers of no less than four exceptionally talented guitarists! And one who no-one has seen or heard from since!!!! BB PeterPeter H Messenger NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Peter I agree the black album was their last good album. We saw, just once, an extended video to the Unforgiven, on Headbangers Ball. Every time we saw it afterwards it was a shortened version. It was weird though. I reckon the Tool videos are the best ones - especially the ones for Intoxicated (?) and Prison Sex (?). Jo , peter hurd <swpgh01@t...> wrote: > > I quite liked the black album! - not exactly master of puppets but hey horses for courses, and you have to remember the events that lead to it . Does anyone remember the freaky video to the unforgiveen? > I hated the latest one St Anger. > > The Valley Vegan............ > > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> wrote: > Hi Jo & Peter > > > Enter Sandman! > > > The Black Album is right about where Metallic lost me. I love > everything prior to that. > > This was about the time the Evil Twins got in and screwed their > music up. > > There are 3 kinds of Metallica fans - pre-black album, post-black > album and then very very few who like both. > > I have enjoyed perhaps a song or two since that album, but I can no > longer call them one of my all-time fav bands. > > So I just pre-tend that they disbanded after Justice and then some > garage band came in and now does their music. lol > > BB > Nikki To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Peter > Maybe I`ll see you at the Yoah vegan festival in Bristol, you buy me the real thing! You may well do... but since you've not seen a photo of me, you wouldn't know who I am... so I can easily avoid buying cake... I'll just claim that I'm Ephraim Gadsby, and you'll never know. :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Well I thought it was the Screaming Lord Sutch band - but I did only say 'I ~think~ I know'. Are you going to give the answer? BB Jo , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > > Hi Jo > > > > And I'll give a virtual vegan chocolate cake to anyone who can tell > > > me the name of the group that Blackmore and Page *both* played in, at > > > different times, before they were famous! And as a clue, Mick Abrahams > > > of Jethro Tull fame, and Albert Lee also played guitar in the same > > > group... all before they were well known!!!! > > I think I know but I'll wait before I say anything :-) > > You surprise me... but go on, I'm sure everyone else has had enough time by > now! > > BB > Peter > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Peter / Nikki I've only heard it once - must have another listen. I can't think of all the tunes involved, but Timo Tolkki does a good solo which I think sounds like Paganini, in fact I'll have to go through some of the cds to see which ones have this type of solo. BB Jo , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > > Hi Jo / Nikki > > > Like minds :-) I also like it when metal bands do metalized classical > > solos - in the style of Bach, Paganini, Vivaldi, Saint Saens etc. > > John Petrucci's version of Flight of The Bumble Bee is something to hear!!! > :-) > > BB > Peter > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Ah well - I was wrong - I guess I'll have to make a real chocolate cake. BB Jo , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > > Hi Peter > > > Well, both did tons of session work in the early sixties, and no doubt crossed paths on several occassions. The Crusaders? > > Congratulations... have a virtual vegan cake :-) It was indeed Neil Christian and the Crusaders... who managed to start the careers of no less than four exceptionally talented guitarists! And one who no-one has seen or heard from since!!!! > > BB > Peter > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Peter ... just so long as you don't go bunburying :-) BB Jo , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > > Hi Peter > > > Maybe I`ll see you at the Yoah vegan festival in Bristol, you buy me the real thing! > > You may well do... but since you've not seen a photo of me, you wouldn't know who I am... so I can easily avoid buying cake... I'll just claim that I'm Ephraim Gadsby, and you'll never know. :-) > > BB > Peter > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Tightwad...........maybe I`ll get Jo to point you out! The Valley Vegan................Peter <metalscarab wrote: Hi Peter > Maybe I`ll see you at the Yoah vegan festival in Bristol, you buy me the real thing! You may well do... but since you've not seen a photo of me, you wouldn't know who I am... so I can easily avoid buying cake... I'll just claim that I'm Ephraim Gadsby, and you'll never know. :-) BB PeterPeter H How much free photo storage do you get? Store your holiday snaps for FREE with Photos. Get Photos Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Jo > Well I thought it was the Screaming Lord Sutch band - but I did only > say 'I ~think~ I know'. Are you going to give the answer? Nope - Jimmy Page didn't play with Screaming Lord Sutch... and I have already posted the answer... Neil Christian & The Crusaders. BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 Hi Peter I saw your answer, but had already sent mine - crossed in the post :-) They were never my sort of music anyway, but thought I would have a guess - I've never had a virtual chocolate cake. BB Jo , " Peter " <metalscarab@g...> wrote: > > Hi Jo > > > Well I thought it was the Screaming Lord Sutch band - but I did only > > say 'I ~think~ I know'. Are you going to give the answer? > > Nope - Jimmy Page didn't play with Screaming Lord Sutch... and I have > already posted the answer... Neil Christian & The Crusaders. > > BB > Peter > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 20, 2005 HA! Not true... Always is as strong a word as never, be careful dear Fraggle Perhaps ye CA punks are not as apt to handle the roughness my delicate one. Nikki - preparing to duck , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > metal pits always were more violent then punk pits..... > different style of dancing.... > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 fine.,.... in general..metal pits are much more violent then punk... different style of dancing earthstrm <nikkimack Oct 20, 2005 6:55 PM Re: First Gigs... HA! Not true... Always is as strong a word as never, be careful dear Fraggle Perhaps ye CA punks are not as apt to handle the roughness my delicate one. Nikki - preparing to duck , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > metal pits always were more violent then punk pits..... > different style of dancing.... > To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 I think they last toured in 2003, if I remember correctly. They still have an official site up but there isn't much there. Lynda - " Peter " <metalscarab Thursday, October 20, 2005 11:22 AM Re: Re: First Gigs... >> > All the CDs I've got have Brain Howe on vocals. I meant " our " Bad > Company >> > CDs. typing too fast. > > Brian Howe replaced Paul Rodgers from 1986-1991. In 1991, Steve Walsh took > over, and in 1994 Robert Hart. Not sure if he's still the singer, or even > if > they're still going! > > Peter > > > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 I agree, it would to be a natural thing, if both parents and children like the same kind of music. that is a good coincidence. but my seven year old just announced that he likes country music! I cannot get over this, I will never like country music! it is just tooo corny for me. sorry. but, alas, I have to accept him, he is his own individual. I just don't want to be in the same car when that music is on.(don't tell him) It cannot be! I used to work at the Metropolitan Opera House! this was two and a half years ago, I left to have the baby. I did not realize this at the time, but I was beginning to have the personality of an opera snob, because, I hung out with opera snobs, which I realize makes me ugly, but know I am not like that, opera can be enjoyed, without being a snob. , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > Hi Nikki > > I guess our family just all like the same kind of music, so therefore > it would be natural to go together - it would seem very strange if Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 In the UK I have noticed that the audience varies with each genre of rock or metal. Death and black metal audiences tend to be very gentle affairs, as do prog rock/metal ones. The hardcore metal audiences are more energetic, and the melodic/aor audiences can be in between. The only time I've been hassled was at a Magnum concert - but my guess is it was some whippersnapper who thought I shouldn't be up the front - still - that's where I stayed. Jo , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > fine.,.... > in general..metal pits are much more violent then punk... > different style of dancing > > > earthstrm <nikkimack@m...> > Oct 20, 2005 6:55 PM > > Re: First Gigs... > > HA! Not true... > > Always is as strong a word as never, be careful dear Fraggle > > Perhaps ye CA punks are not as apt to handle the roughness my delicate > one. > > Nikki - preparing to duck > > , fraggle <EBbrewpunx@e...> wrote: > > > > metal pits always were more violent then punk pits..... > > different style of dancing.... > > > To send an email to - > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 HI Anouk There was a time when I liked country music - we used to listen to the country music programme on the radio every Thursday evening. Now I can't listen for long. There are only two types of music I can't stand, the first being rap, and the second the wailing sort - Whitney Houston, or the girl wailing in Pink Floyd. Jo , " Anouk Sickler " <zurumato@e...> wrote: > > I agree, > it would to be a natural thing, if both parents and children > like the same kind of music. that is a good coincidence. > > but my seven year old just announced that he likes country music! > > I cannot get over this, I will never like country music! > it is just tooo corny for me. sorry. > but, alas, > I have to accept him, he is his own individual. I just don't want to > be in the same car when that music is on.(don't tell him) > > It cannot be! I used to work at the Metropolitan Opera House! > this was two and a half years ago, I left to have the baby. > > I did not realize this at the time, but I was beginning to have the > personality > of an opera snob, because, I hung out with opera snobs, which > I realize makes me ugly, but know I am not like that, > opera can be enjoyed, without being a snob. > > > , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > > > Hi Nikki > > > > I guess our family just all like the same kind of music, so therefore > > it would be natural to go together - it would seem very strange if > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 Hi Jo That's what I hope to be for my son and his friends. I want them to know that they can always turn to us for help no matter what the situation. And in turn we promise not to jump to conclusions and to try to remain relatively calm. BB Nikki , " heartwerk " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > We were always pleased when our kids friends liked us. One of > Laura's friends used to call on us for help rather than his own > father - which was a compliment to us, but a bit sad really. > > BB > Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 But Jo you must admit that sometimes Peter is... (sorry, couldn't resist!) I do know what you mean though, it is that natural motherly instinct to protect and defend our child(ren) at all costs. I think Fraggle meant more from a cultural stand point that it was strange to him. Most teens in the US want nothing to do with their parents in a public setting. It's a peer pressure / independence type thing. I do have to say though that I know Peter is well aware of how you would protect him if need be. In fact I mentioned to him offlist that Fraggle or I may not let him leave the states and he pretty much said that we would then have to contend with you and it could get ugly. But you must know at that point I said that we would keep you too! BB Nikki *desperately trying to catch up on posts) , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > I'm sorry if I have been a bit sharp but I don't like people saying my kids > are strange. > > Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 21, 2005 Hi Jo Me either. I think if I did I would still be moving around in the seat. BB Nikki , " jo " <jo.heartwork@g...> wrote: > > Hi Anouk > > I can't imagine sitting down to Metallica. > > Jo Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
