Guest guest Report post Posted December 1, 2001 Hi Talisman > Hi everyone, I'm new. =) Welcome! > It's nice to find a vegan list that actually has people TALKING, most of the > lists I used to be on were all that spam about saving the purple 3-headed > mongoose squirrel from being hunted and it got a tad annoying at times. I hope you enjoy it here - BTW, some of us do have an " odd " sense of humour (OK, me and Fraggle chiefly), so it is possible that 3 headed mongoose squirrels may crop up :-) > Hope everyone has a good weekend!!! It's SNOWING here! WOOHOO!! Well, in that case, let the snowball fight begin: \ | / \ \ | | / / \\\ \\ // /// \\\ ######### /// \\\ ### ### /// -- ## ## -- -- ## splat!! ## -- // ## ## \\ // ### ### \\ /// ######### \\\ /// // \\ \\\ / / | | \ \ / | \ BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release 24/11/01 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 1, 2001 welcome and shalom talisman you came at a weird time here, we just had a bunch of fine gentlemen crash of soirree, so, yer messages might be a bit slow in being posted.... but anyways, welcome... flagstaff is a nice town, tho a bit touristy fer my tastes... wow, whole lot of yanks joining the list lately...you limeys are losing the edge here.. now for my standard reply to all new folks from the colonies....be forwarned, you'll learn a lot about tescos and other british markets here....but, its all a learning experience!! cheers fraggle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 1, 2001 *wipes face* umm..you know, i left the east coast so i wouldn't have to deal with snow anymore peter..fank yoo very much... umm..fer some reason, i can't find the vegan chat group on ...mayhaps due to the fact my pooter is a piece of %#%#$^$ & %^*$*$#$#@!!! anyone else having difficulties? or is it just the neo luddite in me? damn technology *tosses mudball at peter* (well, its raining here....would you rather cat litter?) fraggle In a message dated 12/1/01 2:52:29 AM Pacific Standard Time, Snowbow writes: << Hi Talisman > Hi everyone, I'm new. =) Welcome! > It's nice to find a vegan list that actually has people TALKING, most of the > lists I used to be on were all that spam about saving the purple 3-headed > mongoose squirrel from being hunted and it got a tad annoying at times. I hope you enjoy it here - BTW, some of us do have an " odd " sense of humour (OK, me and Fraggle chiefly), so it is possible that 3 headed mongoose squirrels may crop up :-) > Hope everyone has a good weekend!!! It's SNOWING here! WOOHOO!! Well, in that case, let the snowball fight begin: \ | / \ \ | | / / \\\ \\ // /// \\\ ######### /// \\\ ### ### /// -- ## ## -- -- ## splat!! ## -- // ## ## \\ // ### ### \\ /// ######### \\\ /// // \\ \\\ / / | | \ \ / | \ BB Peter >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 Talisman wrote: > > Up until recently I had been a vegan since I was 13, but for about 2 weeks I > fell off the wagon HARD (I ate meat *eep*) well I realized that I was being Pardon me for asking, but why? -- Ian McDonald http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/alternative.html http://travel.to/startrekcolony - Star Trek: Colony site & .mov http://www.tardis.ed.ac.uk/~type40/who-rpg.html - Dr. Who RPGs Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 > Pardon me for asking, but why? A combination of a few not very good reasons. Firstly I sometimes hang out on a webboard that has some pretty militant vegans on it, it's as if no one can be vegan enough for them. So that really kinda bummed me out and turned me a lil off to veganism, because up until I found that board I never really conversed with other vegans. Secondly because I just moved from Phoenix to Flagstaff. Phoenix is a *huge* city and Flagstaff is very small. There were quite a few places in Phoenix to get vegan foods/cleaning products/etc.. at very reasonable prices and I just can't find that stuff in Flagstaff. I enjoy the " chicken " nuggets and that kinda " junk " food every once in a while, and the only stuff I seem to be able to find up here is the Morningstar stuff that has egg whites in it. So that in itself was a frustration because, going to school full time, I just don't have time to cook every meal and I felt like I was eating the same ol stuff all the time. So why didn't I just " cheat " with a Morningstar product instead of going full fledged omni for a few meals? I don't know. I thought, in some weird way, that it would just be easier if I ate meat (I'm married to an omni but my kids are vegetarians) but it wasn't. I felt horrible physically and emotionally after I did it and I realize it was a huge mistake. Anyways, hope that answers yer question. BTW, what kind of Dr. are you? (Just idle curiosity on my part) Talisman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 hey talisman..here are some links fer ya go to happycow.net and look up flagstaff, 2 stores and one resturant www.macyscoffee.com www.ecomall.com/vegi/ari.htm hope that helps you on yer quest to stay vegan in the mountains hmm..i would have figured flagstaff would be easier then phoenix..more hippies and all..then again, i ahven't been to either city in a decade..sooo fraggle Talisman <talisman wrote: > >> Pardon me for asking, but why? > >A combination of a few not very good reasons. Firstly I sometimes hang out >on a webboard that has some pretty militant vegans on it, it's as if no one >can be vegan enough for them. So that really kinda bummed me out and turned >me a lil off to veganism, because up until I found that board I never really >conversed with other vegans. > >Secondly because I just moved from Phoenix to Flagstaff. Phoenix is a >*huge* city and Flagstaff is very small. There were quite a few places in >Phoenix to get vegan foods/cleaning products/etc.. at very reasonable prices >and I just can't find that stuff in Flagstaff. I enjoy the " chicken " >nuggets and that kinda " junk " food every once in a while, and the only stuff >I seem to be able to find up here is the Morningstar stuff that has egg >whites in it. So that in itself was a frustration because, going to school >full time, I just don't have time to cook every meal and I felt like I was >eating the same ol stuff all the time. > >So why didn't I just " cheat " with a Morningstar product instead of going >full fledged omni for a few meals? I don't know. I thought, in some weird >way, that it would just be easier if I ate meat (I'm married to an omni but >my kids are vegetarians) but it wasn't. I felt horrible physically and >emotionally after I did it and I realize it was a huge mistake. > >Anyways, hope that answers yer question. BTW, what kind of Dr. are you? >(Just idle curiosity on my part) > >Talisman > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 Talisman wrote: > > So why didn't I just " cheat " with a Morningstar product instead of going > full fledged omni for a few meals? I don't know. I thought, in some weird > way, that it would just be easier if I ate meat (I'm married to an omni but > my kids are vegetarians) but it wasn't. I felt horrible physically and > emotionally after I did it and I realize it was a huge mistake. I think I know what you mean. Veganism is defined as an all-or-nothing thing. It's a response to a fuzzy, case-by-case society, a response that says " Know what? I just don't trust you to deal with any creature without inflicting suffering on it. " But the world *is* case by case, and we've all got to draw the line somewhere. > > Anyways, hope that answers yer question. BTW, what kind of Dr. are you? > (Just idle curiosity on my part) This really ought to be a FAQ . Using computers in biochemistry. > Talisman > > To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 > I think I know what you mean. Yep you pretty much summed up what I was trying to say, but you did it much better than I did. LOL =) > This really ought to be a FAQ . Using computers in biochemistry. Hmm, cool. If you ever feel so inclined I'd love to hear more about it because I am still trying to figure out what exactly I want to do when I graduate. I'm getting a Chem degree and I'll be ACS certified and I'm also getting a Math degree. I'm stuck between Medical School and getting a masters (maybe PhD. later) and doing something in a lab (non-animal related obviously). I *really* want to be a medical doctor but I'm just not sure I could pull it off, considering I have 2 kids to think about...I just think that residency wouldn't be exactly fair to the kids. Anyways enough of that. =) Talis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 > hey talisman..here are some links fer ya Thanks fraggle! =) I shop right now at one of the store listed on that page, but I have never heard of the other one, I'll have to go check it out cuz the New Frontier's vegan selection is almost non-existant. Thanks again! Talis Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 Talisman wrote: > Hmm, cool. If you ever feel so inclined I'd love to hear more about it > because I am still trying to figure out what exactly I want to do when I > graduate. I'm getting a Chem degree and I'll be ACS certified and I'm also > getting a Math degree. I'm stuck between Medical School and getting a > masters (maybe PhD. later) and doing something in a lab (non-animal related > obviously). I *really* want to be a medical doctor but I'm just not sure I > could pull it off, considering I have 2 kids to think about...I just think > that residency wouldn't be exactly fair to the kids. In an intelligent society, one or two places would offer a part-time residency . Or you could get the degree, and delay the residency until your children are older? > Anyways enough of that. =) > > Talis > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 > In an intelligent society, one or two places would offer a part-time > residency . Yea, but from what I've been told by a friend of mine who is a pediatrician at Phoenix Children's Hospital the people who do the part-time residency's really put in the same amount of hours as the people who do full time residency. She said " you can't leave until your work is done and most of the time you are leaving at the same times the full-time residents are leaving but you take twice as long to finish your residency " . The other thing is, I thought only certain fields offered part-time residency options. I really haven't looked *that* deep into it because, lets be honest, I'm not even *in* med school...I have some time. > Or you could get the degree, and delay the residency until your children > are older? Yea I was thinking about that but I feel that it would only be harder on them as they get older. My parents traveled *often* because my dad is part of " corporate america " and my mother owned a travel agency (she's now retired). They would be gone weeks at a time, and it was harder as I got older...of course with residency I wouldn't be gone weeks at a time. LOL Anyways like I said I have quite a bit of time, I am still just flip flopping between what I want to do and what I feel might be in the best interest of the family. Talisman Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 Hi Fraggle > *tosses mudball at peter* Aha - I'm currently hiding behind a fairly hefty wall! You don't think I'd start a Snowball fight and then hang around to get hit do you? ;-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release 24/11/01 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 The mud sounds far more fun than the snow! Go for it Fraggle!!! ;-) Jane x - " Peter " <Snowbow Sunday, December 02, 2001 3:22 PM Re: New Member > Hi Fraggle > > > *tosses mudball at peter* > > Aha - I'm currently hiding behind a fairly hefty wall! You don't think I'd > start a Snowball fight and then hang around to get hit do you? ;-) > > BB > Peter > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release 24/11/01 > > > > To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 2, 2001 Hello Talisman > Hope everyone has a good weekend!!! It's SNOWING here! WOOHOO!! I wish it would snow here! Jo --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.303 / Virus Database: 164 - Release 24/11/01 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted December 31, 2001 In a message dated 12/30/01 3:56:27 AM Pacific Standard Time, charlotte98d writes: << anyway, how do I get my grains in....? especially since I live on campus and get all my food from the cafe. someone help! >> dunno wot you can get at the Cafe' charlotte..but, are there small stores at least in the area? can you purchase bulk anywhere nearby? this is often cheaper and more efficient, plus, you don't have all that extra wasteful packaging breads are good, as long as you stay away from the whey ones...cereals, granola..me, i love pasta, so..... good luck! fraggle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 5, 2002 Hi Karine Welcome to the list > I have just joined this list. Ive been a vegan for less than a year > and a vegetarian for more than five years. Hope to participate in the > posts here. Feel free to join in at any time - looks like the current topic is favourite sandwich fillings, so let us know yours! Personally, I don't like sandwiches - I prefer food outside of sandwiches!! - I know, it's weird, but there you go.... :-) BB Peter --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.313 / Virus Database: 174 - Release 02/01/02 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 5, 2002 Hello Karine Its nice to see you here. Janey x > Hello everyone, > I have just joined this list. Ive been a vegan for less than a year > and a vegetarian for more than five years. Hope to participate in the > posts here. > Karine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 5, 2002 welcome karine.. fraggle " flowers_in_blood " <thursday1 wrote: >Hello everyone, >I have just joined this list. Ive been a vegan for less than a year >and a vegetarian for more than five years. Hope to participate in the >posts here. >Karine > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 13, 2002 Ian, I don't know any other vegans or vegetarians for that matter. I know that vegan choices on base are few, and the commissary doesn't carry much outside the " norm " , although I have noticed an increase in vegan choices recently. I am not all that familiar with the surrounding communities as far as all of this goes, either. *~*~*~*~Denise ~*~*~*~* Proud military wife to Dave and Homeschoolin' Mama to David~21 MAY 91 Lucas~02 AUG 98 and Griffin~09 MAY 01 Re: new member intro faerie_25 wrote: > >Hi. I just joined this group and just started going vegan, so I >really look forward to being part of this group. I am living in the >Uk, but I am American. My hubby is in the US military and stationed >here. I could really use some help and guidance in finding vegan >things here. >Looking forward to knowing you all. > >Denise > You living on the base? If so, how is the community about you being vegan? -- Ian McDonald _______________ Send and receive Hotmail on your mobile device: http://mobile.msn.com Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2002 In a message dated 6/26/02 6:49:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, gadfly50 writes: I recently changed to a vegan diet and things are going wonderfully. Unfortunately, some might think I am less of a vegan because I changed over for health reasons and not animal rights reasons, but the effect is the same. No meats or Dairy of any kind seems to work great for me, with emphasis on the fruits and legumes. I also became a vegan for health reasons and I have to say that I made the best decision of my life even if i've only been vegan a few days. Sta Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 26, 2002 doesn't matter why you went vegan, its that you are doingn it, and thats that!@!! good luck! fraggle " cynthiakg21701 " <gadfly50 wrote: >I recently changed to a vegan diet and things are going wonderfully. >Unfortunately, some might think I am less of a vegan because I >changed over for health reasons and not animal rights reasons, but >the effect is the same. No meats or Dairy of any kind seems to work >great for me, with emphasis on the fruits and legumes. > > > > >To send an email to - > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 27, 2002 When you are in a shop and you are craving for milk just remember how it was made. Maybe even carry around a picture of a calf and a mother cow and just remember if you buy that milk you are driving the two apart. You'll be a very cold hearted person if you can still the buy the litre of milk. Which (if you're trying to go vegan) you obviously aren't. All the best! Andy - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 27, 2002 Thanks, sweetie. I had already been flamed once by a newsletter editor about this very thing, and as a result, I was afraid to raise my little head and say " hi " . Thanks for making me feel more at home. Cynthia , EBbrewpunx@c... wrote: > > doesn't matter why you went vegan, its that you are doingn it, and thats that!@!! > good luck! > fraggle > > " cynthiakg21701 " <gadfly50@a...> wrote: > > >I recently changed to a vegan diet and things are going wonderfully. > >Unfortunately, some might think I am less of a vegan because I > >changed over for health reasons and not animal rights reasons, but > >the effect is the same. No meats or Dairy of any kind seems to work > >great for me, with emphasis on the fruits and legumes. > > > > > > > > > >To send an email to - > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 27, 2002 Congratulations!! It dosen't really matter which reason you choose to be vegan (health, animals, or enviornment), all still reap the benifits of your new diet. Just a side note--I became vegetarian over 10 years ago (when I was 13) for health and enviornmental reasons, but became a vegan last year for animal rights reasons--seems like the longer I stay with the lifestyle and be around the influence of all these wonderful people who think so much about how their lifestyle effects not only their own health but other beings and our earth-I started doing it too. Again, congratulations on the lifestyle change. It is one of the most important things you will ever do for yourself (and others)! Hannah cynthiakg21701 6/25/02 7:22 PM New member I recently changed to a vegan diet and things are going wonderfully. Unfortunately, some might think I am less of a vegan because I changed over for health reasons and not animal rights reasons, but the effect is the same. No meats or Dairy of any kind seems to work great for me, with emphasis on the fruits and legumes. To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 27, 2002 That's a good suggestion. When I started to give up diary, every time I drank milk or ate cheese I thought about baby cows crying for their moms. It really did the trick for me. Also literature such as the kind you can get from PETA helps. After reading that, I did go cold turkey. Hannah andy barnes 6/26/02 7:04 PM RE: New member When you are in a shop and you are craving for milk just remember how it was made. Maybe even carry around a picture of a calf and a mother cow and just remember if you buy that milk you are driving the two apart. You'll be a very cold hearted person if you can still the buy the litre of milk. Which (if you're trying to go vegan) you obviously aren't. All the best! Andy - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup. <http://fifaworldcup.> To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
