Guest guest Report post Posted November 12, 2009 hey there michael and welcome first off if i may, i have a question What are the reason(s) you became vegan? iwith that in hand, mayhaps i can, or we can, give you a satisfactory answer cheers fraggle Michael Giles Nov 12, 2009 12:58 PM New Member Hello Everyone! I have recently joined your ranks as a vegan and the primary reason that I want to join this email group is so I can find out from you more about how I can really enjoy being vegan and therefore stay that way! Some challenges I foresee: My wife and daughter both eat meat and so I'm gonna be seeing meat around me and perhaps some days even thinking it looks tasty. While I see merit in the idea of getting them to also go vegan, for now, at least, I'll respect their wishes and be the only vegan in the house. How can I get to a place where I feel perfectly satisfied eating the vegan portions of our meals while they're chowing down on chicken tenders? I have made intentional changes to my diet in the past, and some of the changes have not lasted. In 2002, I was living vegan, but then I moved to a country without central heating and I met my wife. The prospect of meat warming me combined with the fact that my wife was a meat-eater got me eating meat again about a year and a half later. How can I now stay vegan? How can I make it so this is not another thing I'm "trying out", but instead something I'll really follow through with? Non-vegan food is convenient here in TX. It's prepared and tasty and available in a minute for a couple of bucks. How can I make a vegan lifestyle a natural and convenient one? One idea I have is to join some local vegan clubs. I think that a sense of community with people I have things in common with will really help me own the identity. I'd be really appreciative of any other ideas. Thanks so much! Michael From: moondreamer64_2000 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:43:34 -0800Re: Jam Suet Pudding What is vegetable suet?Patricia--- On Thu, 11/12/09, elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88.uk> wrote: elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88.uk> Jam Suet Pudding Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:09 AM OMG what a terrible recipe to have! And I mean that in the best way possible! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Hi Michael, From one 'newbie' to another...welcome. I only joined the other day as well so I'm trying to find my feet, so to speak Cheers, Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 I'm trying to find my feet have you checked under the couch cushions? i always lose things there....... Lee Nov 12, 2009 10:06 PM Re: New Member Hi Michael,From one 'newbie' to another...welcome. I only joined the other day as well so I'm trying to find my feet, so to speak :)Cheers,Lee You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 LOL. I have actually looked everywhere...nope can't find them still. Maybe after a few more days here they'll turn up! Lee Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 Or behind the fridge? Jo Re: Re: New Member I'm trying to find my feet have you checked under the couch cushions? i always lose things there....... Lee Nov 12, 2009 10:06 PM Re: New Member Hi Michael, From one 'newbie' to another...welcome. I only joined the other day as well so I'm trying to find my feet, so to speak Cheers, Lee You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Fri Nov 13, 2009 4:17 am Show Message Option -- Up Thread View Source Use Fixed Width Font Unwrap Lines -- fraggle <EBbrewpunx ebbrewpunx Offline Send Email Remove Author | Ban Author Forward | Delete Message #64647 of 64653 < Prev | Next > Expand Messages Author Sort by Date Re: New Member Hi Michael, From one 'newbie' to another...welcome. I only joined the other day as well so I'm trying to find my feet, so to speak Cheers, Lee... Lee lee1963 3:25 am Re: New Member I'm trying to find my feet have you checked under the couch cushions? i always lose things there....... ... Hi Michael, From one 'newbie' to another...welcome.... fraggle ebbrewpunx 4:17 am Re: New Member LOL. I have actually looked everywhere...nope can't find them still. Maybe after a few more days here they'll turn up! Lee... Lee lee1963 Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 13, 2009 I became vegan mainly for health reasons, and for all the ways that being more healthy will strengthen other areas in my life.I found it hard to stay thin while I was in China over the last couple years, and this was probably a combination of the emphasis the people around me put on food and that I was eating just about everything.Over the last few weeks, I've found that avoiding wheat and dairy makes me feel better, but it's been hard to stick to that. I know that avoiding meat makes me feel better, and I'm thinking that becoming vegan will help me to stick to this new way of eating, partly because the diet comes with a philosophy and a community.Thanks for asking, Fraggle. Now, how do I make it stick? Michael From: EBbrewpunxDate: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:54:48 -0500Re: New Member hey there michael and welcome first off if i may, i have a question What are the reason(s) you became vegan? iwith that in hand, mayhaps i can, or we can, give you a satisfactory answer cheers fraggle Michael Giles Nov 12, 2009 12:58 PM New Member Hello Everyone! I have recently joined your ranks as a vegan and the primary reason that I want to join this email group is so I can find out from you more about how I can really enjoy being vegan and therefore stay that way! Some challenges I foresee: My wife and daughter both eat meat and so I'm gonna be seeing meat around me and perhaps some days even thinking it looks tasty. While I see merit in the idea of getting them to also go vegan, for now, at least, I'll respect their wishes and be the only vegan in the house. How can I get to a place where I feel perfectly satisfied eating the vegan portions of our meals while they're chowing down on chicken tenders? I have made intentional changes to my diet in the past, and some of the changes have not lasted. In 2002, I was living vegan, but then I moved to a country without central heating and I met my wife. The prospect of meat warming me combined with the fact that my wife was a meat-eater got me eating meat again about a year and a half later. How can I now stay vegan? How can I make it so this is not another thing I'm "trying out", but instead something I'll really follow through with? Non-vegan food is convenient here in TX. It's prepared and tasty and available in a minute for a couple of bucks. How can I make a vegan lifestyle a natural and convenient one? One idea I have is to join some local vegan clubs. I think that a sense of community with people I have things in common with will really help me own the identity. I'd be really appreciative of any other ideas. Thanks so much! Michael From: moondreamer64_2000 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:43:34 -0800Re: Jam Suet Pudding What is vegetable suet?Patricia--- On Thu, 11/12/09, elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88.uk> wrote: elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88.uk> Jam Suet Pudding Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:09 AM OMG what a terrible recipe to have! And I mean that in the best way possible! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2009 I think it must be really hard to stay at it unless you actually feel sorry for the animals who die if you don't. We all like to be healthy, but still make many unwise choices in what we eat. I don't think wanting to be healthy is a strong enough feeling to make you stay vegan. Maybe you could try to think about it from different angles to see if you can persuade yourself that this is what you want to do. When I was young I used to smoke. The only way to give up smoking is to really want to - if it is not what you 'really' want you won't do it. I think the same applies to any change in lifestyle. I think people give up eating animals for good when they have the "OMG - I can't take a life" moment. Jo - Michael Giles Friday, November 13, 2009 2:53 PM RE: New Member I became vegan mainly for health reasons, and for all the ways that being more healthy will strengthen other areas in my life. I found it hard to stay thin while I was in China over the last couple years, and this was probably a combination of the emphasis the people around me put on food and that I was eating just about everything. Over the last few weeks, I've found that avoiding wheat and dairy makes me feel better, but it's been hard to stick to that. I know that avoiding meat makes me feel better, and I'm thinking that becoming vegan will help me to stick to this new way of eating, partly because the diet comes with a philosophy and a community. Thanks for asking, Fraggle. Now, how do I make it stick? Michael From: EBbrewpunx (AT) earthlink (DOT) netDate: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:54:48 -0500Re: New Member hey there michael and welcomefirst off if i may, i have a questionWhat are the reason(s) you became vegan? iwith that in hand, mayhaps i can, or we can, give you a satisfactory answer:)cheersfraggle Michael Giles Nov 12, 2009 12:58 PM New Member Hello Everyone! I have recently joined your ranks as a vegan and the primary reason that I want to join this email group is so I can find out from you more about how I can really enjoy being vegan and therefore stay that way! Some challenges I foresee: My wife and daughter both eat meat and so I'm gonna be seeing meat around me and perhaps some days even thinking it looks tasty. While I see merit in the idea of getting them to also go vegan, for now, at least, I'll respect their wishes and be the only vegan in the house. How can I get to a place where I feel perfectly satisfied eating the vegan portions of our meals while they're chowing down on chicken tenders? I have made intentional changes to my diet in the past, and some of the changes have not lasted. In 2002, I was living vegan, but then I moved to a country without central heating and I met my wife. The prospect of meat warming me combined with the fact that my wife was a meat-eater got me eating meat again about a year and a half later. How can I now stay vegan? How can I make it so this is not another thing I'm "trying out", but instead something I'll really follow through with? Non-vegan food is convenient here in TX. It's prepared and tasty and available in a minute for a couple of bucks. How can I make a vegan lifestyle a natural and convenient one? One idea I have is to join some local vegan clubs. I think that a sense of community with people I have things in common with will really help me own the identity. I'd be really appreciative of any other ideas. Thanks so much! Michael From: moondreamer64_2000 Date: Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:43:34 -0800Re: Jam Suet Pudding What is vegetable suet?Patricia--- On Thu, 11/12/09, elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88.uk> wrote: elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88.uk> Jam Suet Pudding Date: Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:09 AM OMG what a terrible recipe to have! And I mean that in the best way possible! Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn more. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 14, 2009 I totally agree with you Jo. You really need to have a good reason to change your lifestyle. For me, it was that I don't need to eat meat to sustain my life. I hate the idea of something having to die just so I can eat it. Much more out there. I'm sure Michael you'll find your way, it may just take time. Best, Lee , " jo.heartwork " <jo.heartwork wrote: > > I think it must be really hard to stay at it unless you actually feel sorry for the animals who die if you don't. We all like to be healthy, but still make many unwise choices in what we eat. I don't think wanting to be healthy is a strong enough feeling to make you stay vegan. Maybe you could try to think about it from different angles to see if you can persuade yourself that this is what you want to do. > > When I was young I used to smoke. The only way to give up smoking is to really want to - if it is not what you 'really' want you won't do it. I think the same applies to any change in lifestyle. I think people give up eating animals for good when they have the " OMG - I can't take a life " moment. > > Jo > > > - > Michael Giles > > Friday, November 13, 2009 2:53 PM > RE: New Member > > > > I became vegan mainly for health reasons, and for all the ways that being more healthy will strengthen other areas in my life. > > > > I found it hard to stay thin while I was in China over the last couple years, and this was probably a combination of the emphasis the people around me put on food and that I was eating just about everything. > > > Over the last few weeks, I've found that avoiding wheat and dairy makes me feel better, but it's been hard to stick to that. I know that avoiding meat makes me feel better, and I'm thinking that becoming vegan will help me to stick to this new way of eating, partly because the diet comes with a philosophy and a community. > > > Thanks for asking, Fraggle. Now, how do I make it stick? > > > Michael > > > > > EBbrewpunx > Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:54:48 -0500 > Re: New Member > > > > hey there michael and welcome > first off if i may, i have a question > What are the reason(s) you became vegan? iwith that in hand, mayhaps i can, or we can, give you a satisfactory answer > > cheers > fraggle > > > > > > Michael Giles > Nov 12, 2009 12:58 PM > > New Member > > > Hello Everyone! > > > > I have recently joined your ranks as a vegan and the primary reason that I want to join this email group is so I can find out from you more about how I can really enjoy being vegan and therefore stay that way! > > > Some challenges I foresee: > > > a.. My wife and daughter both eat meat and so I'm gonna be seeing meat around me and perhaps some days even thinking it looks tasty. While I see merit in the idea of getting them to also go vegan, for now, at least, I'll respect their wishes and be the only vegan in the house. How can I get to a place where I feel perfectly satisfied eating the vegan portions of our meals while they're chowing down on chicken tenders? > b.. I have made intentional changes to my diet in the past, and some of the changes have not lasted. In 2002, I was living vegan, but then I moved to a country without central heating and I met my wife. The prospect of meat warming me combined with the fact that my wife was a meat-eater got me eating meat again about a year and a half later. How can I now stay vegan? How can I make it so this is not another thing I'm " trying out " , but instead something I'll really follow through with? > c.. Non-vegan food is convenient here in TX. It's prepared and tasty and available in a minute for a couple of bucks. How can I make a vegan lifestyle a natural and convenient one? > > > One idea I have is to join some local vegan clubs. I think that a sense of community with people I have things in common with will really help me own the identity. I'd be really appreciative of any other ideas. > > > Thanks so much! Michael > > > ---------- > > moondreamer64_2000 > Thu, 12 Nov 2009 09:43:34 -0800 > Re: Jam Suet Pudding > > > What is vegetable suet? > > Patricia > > --- On Thu, 11/12/09, elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88 wrote: > > > elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88 > Jam Suet Pudding > > Thursday, November 12, 2009, 6:09 AM > > > > > OMG what a terrible recipe to have! And I mean that in the best way possible! > > > > ---------- > Hotmail: Trusted email with Microsoft's powerful SPAM protection. Sign up now. > > > > You're just jealous because the voices only talk to me! > > > > > > Find the right PC with Windows 7 and Windows Live. Learn more. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 17, 2009 Jo, I agree with you completely. I became vegetarian many, many years ago because I did not want to take a life but I carried on eating eggs and dairy. I became vegan when I married my vegan husband but I was only doing it because it would make him happy. I would sometimes cheat when at work etc because I felt pressured into doing something I was not really doing for myself. My moment came when I ordered the animal free shopper and read the descriptions at the beginning. Suddenly it all made sense and dairy and eggs became as abhorrent to me as meat had been all those years before. Being that I am at the moment breastfeeding my youngest daughter is also becomes so so awful to me that another animal's milk could be taken away from their babies in such terrible conditions and on such a large scale just to feed human greed. Nothing makes sense to me now apart from being vegan. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted November 23, 2009 Sorry to take a long time to reply - I've been away from home for a few days. That's exactly what I mean - you have to really want to do it - otherwise there is no motivation. Jo , elizabeth vincent <charlottesometimes88 wrote: > > Jo, I agree with you completely. I became vegetarian many, many years ago because I did not want to take a life but I carried on eating eggs and dairy. I became vegan when I married my vegan husband but I was only doing it because it would make him happy. I would sometimes cheat when at work etc because I felt pressured into doing something I was not really doing for myself. My moment came when I ordered the animal free shopper and read the descriptions at the beginning. Suddenly it all made sense and dairy and eggs became as abhorrent to me as meat had been all those years before. Being that I am at the moment breastfeeding my youngest daughter is also becomes so so awful to me that another animal's milk could be taken away from their babies in such terrible conditions and on such a large scale just to feed human greed. Nothing makes sense to me now apart from being vegan. > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2010 Hi all, I'm Samira from Iran and I've just joined this group. It's more than 10 years that I'm a vegetarian. I eat dairy and eggs but completely avoid all kind of meat and don't use any of animal products (Clothing, pills, cosmetics and etc,..). I'm so excited to hear about your believes and experiences. Wish you a good time. Kind Regards, Samir Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2010 Hi Samira and welcome to the group. Thank you for submitting your answers to our questionnaire, normally we forward these answers to the group as a sort of introduction but you have already sent your own introduction, still I'll forward your answers (see below) as they contain some info not in your mail, just as the mail contains info not in the answers. It's great that you avoid animal products in non-food items, very difficult nowadays but worth the effort! Of course our concern here is mostly with food, and I hope you will enjoy finding your way through the variety of recipes we have here either via the archive or the Files (see left hand menu on our webpage). We recently adapted the Files so that the recipes are for the most part not listed according to country of origin, but more according to ingredients etc. since (as you know) there is a lot of overlapping between the ethnic foods of different countries and regions. Best, Piers (co-owner with Pat) , " Sam " <fravartish wrote: > > Hi all, > > I'm Samira from Iran and I've just joined this group. It's more than 10 years that I'm a vegetarian. I eat dairy and eggs but completely avoid all kind of meat and don't use any of animal products (Clothing, pills, cosmetics and etc,..). > I'm so excited to hear about your believes and experiences. Samira's answers: 1. Which description best fits your situation? - I am a vegetarian who eats eggs and dairy (lacto-ovo vegetarian) Yes 2. What is your main reason for choosing a vegetarian or vegan way of life? - Concern for the animals Yes - Concern for the environment and/or world hunger Yes - Religious, spiritual and/or philosophical concerns Yes 3. Is your household totally vegetarian? No If not, do you find you need to produce non-vegetarian meals some of the time? Yes, Sometimes for my family members and my guests. 4. Do you like hot and spicy food? If not, what is your favourite kind of food? I like spicy foods, but I'm not much used to very hot dishes. My other favorite cuisine is Italian, I love different kind of Pasta, I also like Chinese, but after all I don't like to stick to one type or recipe, I prefer to be creative in cooking and love trying new foods. 5. Is there anything else you would like to tell us (such as your country or region, age group, household pets/companion animals, hobbies, activities, interests, indoor and outdoor sports, etc.)? Let's hear it! I'm Samira! A 28 years old girl from Iran. I love all kind of animals and I'm crazy about Cats. I work as a selling/purchasing manager in the field of Electronic instruments. I'm single and live with my mom and younger sister. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 21, 2010 Welcome, Samir. Are there very many vegetarians in Iran? Patricia --- On Sun, 2/21/10, Sam <fravartish wrote: Sam <fravartish New Member Sunday, February 21, 2010, 3:34 AM Hi all, I'm Samira from Iran and I've just joined this group. It's more than 10 years that I'm a vegetarian. I eat dairy and eggs but completely avoid all kind of meat and don't use any of animal products (Clothing, pills, cosmetics and etc,..). I'm so excited to hear about your believes and experiences. Wish you a good time. Kind Regards, Samir --- Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 23, 2010 > Welcome, Samir. > > Are there very many vegetarians in Iran? Hi! Good question. I'm not Samir and I don't live in Iran, but from googling I found something that indicated there were problems to trying to eat veggie there: lack of understanding that you didn't just pick the meat out of dishes, lack of understanding that fats and stocks from dead animals are also a no-no, etc. etc. Otoh, it's hard to know how reliable some of these bloggers are, and also hard to know if they enjoy criticizing cultures not their own and neglect to give credit for things they should. Still, it's a point to ponder. Maybe someone who is in or who has visited or lived in Iran can enlighten us Best, Pat Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
