Guest guest Report post Posted December 30, 2004 Welcome Spanna, Ask away, any questions you have , us oldies have probably got the answers.Any encouragement you need to go totally vegetarian ( i.e. vegan) , you will get it here! Best Wishes , The Valley Vegan.........Anna Midgley <pinkspanna6 wrote: Hey! Just thought I'd reply to the questions you sent me! 1. My name is Anna Midgley, better known as Spanna. 2. I'm 18 years old, soon to be 19 in January. 3. I'm sad to say that I only know one vegan, who is very strict about his food, clothing etc. and only two vegetarians who are a bit rubbish. They still have Sunday roast because they'd miss their roast chicken if they didn't. 4. I'm not actually a vegan yet, which is kind of why I've signed up to this, because I needed help with it. I have been vegetarian for, what will be 6 years, in January. 5. I'm a vegetarian because I believe that it's wrong for any animal to suffer unnecessarily. It is unnecessary because I don't need meat, most people don't need meat, to live and I've come to believe that things such as milk, cheese and other such products are also unnecessary. This sounds really bad but I actually started vegetarianism as a bet that I couldn't last without meat for a week and I just wanted to see how long I could carry it on for. It has become very much an ethical thing for me now and I'd rather chew off my own arm than have to eat meat. 6. I live in the South East of England in Kent. Ramsgate, if we're going to be picky. 7. The area is absolutely appalling for vegetarian and vegan food. I'm only aware of one vegetarian restaurant and it's called 'The Hippo Cafe' and it still caters for meat-eaters, so as your trying to tuck into your animal friendly meal you can still smell another person's bacon sarnie cooking. As for clothing there's absolutely nothing, mainly lack of information but still partially down to ignorance. 8. I don't have a favourite bean. Butter beans are alright but I can't stand lentils, pulses or anything like that. It's probably just down to not being shown how to make them up properly, ignorance basically. 9. My favourite place ever is South East Asia, Thailand and Cambodia. They're absolutely mind blowing places. 10. My favourite type of film is comedy, anything that makes me laugh my a**e off basically. 11. The last meal I ate was Linda McCartney sausages and mash with vegetarian gravy. Yum. 12. I'm definitely a night person, I get really groggy if I have to wake up before midday. 13. I found out about this site through scouring the net for help on veganism. 14. I just need some advice on veganism really. There's alot I need to know before I dive in and fail miserably at it. S.O.S!!! ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! ~~ info ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~Please remember that the above is only the opinion of the author, there may be another side to the story you have not heard.---------------------------Was this message Off Topic? Did you know? Was it snipped?~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Guidelines: visit <site temporarily offline>Un: send a blank message to - Peter H ALL-NEW Messenger - all new features - even more fun! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted January 31, 2005 well- to be honest- I always gave sofyea, my now 4 yo, spices and such. now she'll eat straight garlic! but I also put spirulina and dha(nueroman's is the algea form.) in her formula and drinks and now she loves those. maybe I ama bad one to give advice here, I know some spices aren't to great for young ones but we never had any issues with them. soy we did sparingly. good luck. where are you from? cristene - selvakas<selvakas < > Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:49 PM (unknown) hello everyone, i am a new mother with 9 1/2 baby girl.Both me and my husband are vegetarians for past 15 year prior to meeting each other.We are bringing up our child as a vegetarian as well.I need some advice on how to feed my baby-healthy,balanced meal.currently I am giving her blended fruits and vegetables with rice and cereal.She is already interested in the food that we take.But I am worried since our food has seasonings and mock meat made of soya and mushroom.I would be grateful if someone could ease my worries.thank you For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org<http://www.vrg.org/> and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This<http://www.vrg.org/family.This> is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2005 hello cristene, thank you for replying.I am Hindu by religion and I am from Malaysia.Indian food is usually rich with spices so I am not sure when I can start giving her (Lahvanya) our table food. I have another question;how to prepare vegetable stock? -kasturi. cristene bailey <maibee23 wrote: well- to be honest- I always gave sofyea, my now 4 yo, spices and such. now she'll eat straight garlic! but I also put spirulina and dha(nueroman's is the algea form.) in her formula and drinks and now she loves those. maybe I ama bad one to give advice here, I know some spices aren't to great for young ones but we never had any issues with them. soy we did sparingly. good luck. where are you from? cristene - selvakas<selvakas < > Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:49 PM (unknown) hello everyone, i am a new mother with 9 1/2 baby girl.Both me and my husband are vegetarians for past 15 year prior to meeting each other.We are bringing up our child as a vegetarian as well.I need some advice on how to feed my baby-healthy,balanced meal.currently I am giving her blended fruits and vegetables with rice and cereal.She is already interested in the food that we take.But I am worried since our food has seasonings and mock meat made of soya and mushroom.I would be grateful if someone could ease my worries.thank you For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org<http://www.vrg.org/> and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This<http://www.vrg.org/family.This> is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 3, 2005 salutations and welcome Shellsea Brosius Mar 2, 2005 9:02 PM (unknown) Hey there I just wanted to take a second to say hello. I am in Oregon and new to the group. I am just looking for support and any great recipies for my transition into Veganhood Shellsea Shellsea Brosius Do you need affordable legal help? Or are you interested in a great business opportunity? http://wserver0.prepaidlegal.com/Multisite/Multisite?site=hub & assoc=sbrosius To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 22, 2005 Lauren, thanks so much for the info on Taco Bell. It is a very occasional choice for us, but unfortunately it is about the only choice in our area. Personally, I think we as a society would all be much better off without fast food altogether. It is unfortunate that " fast " equals factory farm and unfair labor standards in most cases. There is definitely a balance to be found as far as supporting mainstream veg options and begin true to your personal set of principles and veg*ism is a lifelong journey. I was veg for 6 years before my husband made the change, which coincided with the birth of our first child. His position is that he just can't see any justification in the suffering of one creature to satisfy the desire of another. We moved from Austin, a veritable veg paradise, to rural OK nearly three years ago, and have had to make some compromises in the foods we choose to buy. Availability is very limited here and costs are high, but we do the best we can. I was really pleased last week when we took our daughters to see a museum exhibit on birds of prey. Our oldest, who will be 3 in a month, literally could not grasp the concept that an animal was " food. " I know it's partly her age, but I think it also has a lot to do with our veg*ism and our general attitude toward all creatures. Good girl!! Lauren Niedel [lniedel] Monday, March 21, 2005 9:32 PM (unknown) I have just forwarded an article from Truth Out regarding -TACO BELL! It is not just what youe eat but where you eat and their practices. I for 1 have never gone to Taco Bell, because of their employee practices and other issues. (you should see my boycott list). If anyone has a Spikes near you - they make a MEAN TOFU PUP! It is hard to find decent fast food while travelling and sometimes you have to make compromises - Sometimes the best places to go are Supermarkets as many of them have sit down areas and a wide variety of foods to chose from. Good luck to all Lauren (vegetarian for 23 yrs this April) alas not vegan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2005 U R so right - I live in a RI in a rural town - but we are close to Providence and near all conveniences including Whole Food Markets. It is extremely difficult to have to make some of these decisions regarding food and purchases. I can boycott Wal-Mart - but that is because there are other stores neat me that aren't as bad - but if you only have a Wal-Mart near your choices are extremely limited. I guess in general we all just try to do what is in the best interest of our families while trying to maintain some kind of consistency in our daily lives. Chessie <vegetariyum wrote: Lauren, thanks so much for the info on Taco Bell. It is a very occasional choice for us, but unfortunately it is about the only choice in our area. Personally, I think we as a society would all be much better off without fast food altogether. It is unfortunate that " fast " equals factory farm and unfair labor standards in most cases. There is definitely a balance to be found as far as supporting mainstream veg options and begin true to your personal set of principles and veg*ism is a lifelong journey. I was veg for 6 years before my husband made the change, which coincided with the birth of our first child. His position is that he just can't see any justification in the suffering of one creature to satisfy the desire of another. We moved from Austin, a veritable veg paradise, to rural OK nearly three years ago, and have had to make some compromises in the foods we choose to buy. Availability is very limited here and costs are high, but we do the best we can. I was really pleased last week when we took our daughters to see a museum exhibit on birds of prey. Our oldest, who will be 3 in a month, literally could not grasp the concept that an animal was " food. " I know it's partly her age, but I think it also has a lot to do with our veg*ism and our general attitude toward all creatures. Good girl!! Lauren Niedel [lniedel] Monday, March 21, 2005 9:32 PM (unknown) I have just forwarded an article from Truth Out regarding -TACO BELL! It is not just what youe eat but where you eat and their practices. I for 1 have never gone to Taco Bell, because of their employee practices and other issues. (you should see my boycott list). If anyone has a Spikes near you - they make a MEAN TOFU PUP! It is hard to find decent fast food while travelling and sometimes you have to make compromises - Sometimes the best places to go are Supermarkets as many of them have sit down areas and a wide variety of foods to chose from. Good luck to all Lauren (vegetarian for 23 yrs this April) alas not vegan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2005 Lauren, you are so lucky to be near Whole Foods!! I miss it so much.and I boycott WM as much as I can, but sometimes it is inevitable. It makes me mad just to think about having to go there! Lauren Niedel [lniedel] Tuesday, March 22, 2005 9:29 PM RE: (unknown) U R so right - I live in a RI in a rural town - but we are close to Providence and near all conveniences including Whole Food Markets. It is extremely difficult to have to make some of these decisions regarding food and purchases. I can boycott Wal-Mart - but that is because there are other stores neat me that aren't as bad - but if you only have a Wal-Mart near your choices are extremely limited. I guess in general we all just try to do what is in the best interest of our families while trying to maintain some kind of consistency in our daily lives. Chessie <vegetariyum wrote: Lauren, thanks so much for the info on Taco Bell. It is a very occasional choice for us, but unfortunately it is about the only choice in our area. Personally, I think we as a society would all be much better off without fast food altogether. It is unfortunate that " fast " equals factory farm and unfair labor standards in most cases. There is definitely a balance to be found as far as supporting mainstream veg options and begin true to your personal set of principles and veg*ism is a lifelong journey. I was veg for 6 years before my husband made the change, which coincided with the birth of our first child. His position is that he just can't see any justification in the suffering of one creature to satisfy the desire of another. We moved from Austin, a veritable veg paradise, to rural OK nearly three years ago, and have had to make some compromises in the foods we choose to buy. Availability is very limited here and costs are high, but we do the best we can. I was really pleased last week when we took our daughters to see a museum exhibit on birds of prey. Our oldest, who will be 3 in a month, literally could not grasp the concept that an animal was " food. " I know it's partly her age, but I think it also has a lot to do with our veg*ism and our general attitude toward all creatures. Good girl!! Lauren Niedel [lniedel] Monday, March 21, 2005 9:32 PM (unknown) I have just forwarded an article from Truth Out regarding -TACO BELL! It is not just what youe eat but where you eat and their practices. I for 1 have never gone to Taco Bell, because of their employee practices and other issues. (you should see my boycott list). If anyone has a Spikes near you - they make a MEAN TOFU PUP! It is hard to find decent fast food while travelling and sometimes you have to make compromises - Sometimes the best places to go are Supermarkets as many of them have sit down areas and a wide variety of foods to chose from. Good luck to all Lauren (vegetarian for 23 yrs this April) alas not vegan! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2005 Hi Lauren, I was in the Whole Foods on Waterman St. in Providence the other day and the place reeked of bad fish and spoiled meat. I was really distressed by the atmosphere in the store. I've always enjoyed shopping in Whole Foods -- the store in Palo Alto near where I lived in California for a long time was like heaven -- but it seems that more and more now they are pushing meat and fish front and center. Have you noticed this in the Providence stores? Has there been a change of management at Whole Foods? Terry U R so right - I live in a RI in a rural town - but we are close to Providence and near all conveniences including Whole Food Markets. It is extremely difficult to have to make some of these decisions regarding food and purchases. I can boycott Wal-Mart - but that is because there are other stores neat me that aren't as bad - but if you only have a Wal-Mart near your choices are extremely limited. I guess in general we all just try to do what is in the best interest of our families while trying to maintain some kind of consistency in our daily lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 23, 2005 I also live in rural OK and went to see the Birds of Prey exhibit (probably the same one). It was a really useful teaching tool for my 4-year-old. He was morbidly facsinated by it all...and then wanted to get into the mechanics of how " meat-eater people " eat animals. I ended up having to explain how the animals are killed and skinned and then people bite pieces of them off and chew them up, just like he does with his sandwiches. He's seen pics of dinosaurs eating other dinosaurs in books but I guess seeing the " real life " birds eating roadkill triggered something in him. He just can't understand how some people can think animals are good to eat. I think that, to him, cows and chickens are no different than his dogs and parakeets. It just makes us proud when we see evidence of how compassionate our children are turning out to be, doesn't it? Shayla , " Chessie " <vegetariyum@c...> wrote: I was > really pleased last week when we took our daughters to see a museum > exhibit on birds of prey. Our oldest, who will be 3 in a month, > literally could not grasp the concept that an animal was " food. " I know > it's partly her age, but I think it also has a lot to do with our > veg*ism and our general attitude toward all creatures. Good girl!! > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 24, 2005 Shayla, We didn't get that far - to the idea of people eating meat - I am certain she has no idea that it happens! But I really was amazed by her response to the exhibit. We go there a lot, my girls love, love, love the dinosaurs! We are in southeastern OK - small city called Sulphur. Where are you.and where do you shop? I'm always looking for more shopping options!! Chessie wisheyemay [happyvegan] Wednesday, March 23, 2005 3:03 PM Re: (unknown) I also live in rural OK and went to see the Birds of Prey exhibit (probably the same one). It was a really useful teaching tool for my 4-year-old. He was morbidly facsinated by it all...and then wanted to get into the mechanics of how " meat-eater people " eat animals. I ended up having to explain how the animals are killed and skinned and then people bite pieces of them off and chew them up, just like he does with his sandwiches. He's seen pics of dinosaurs eating other dinosaurs in books but I guess seeing the " real life " birds eating roadkill triggered something in him. He just can't understand how some people can think animals are good to eat. I think that, to him, cows and chickens are no different than his dogs and parakeets. It just makes us proud when we see evidence of how compassionate our children are turning out to be, doesn't it? Shayla , " Chessie " <vegetariyum@c...> wrote: I was > really pleased last week when we took our daughters to see a museum > exhibit on birds of prey. Our oldest, who will be 3 in a month, > literally could not grasp the concept that an animal was " food. " I know > it's partly her age, but I think it also has a lot to do with our > veg*ism and our general attitude toward all creatures. Good girl!! > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2005 Thanks for the info. YES!!! There has been a HUGE change since Bread and Circus of MA was bought out by Whole Food markets from TX. (maybe it is actually a BUSH CONSPIRACY) B & C (Boston Based) originally did not sell any meat or Fish and was almost completely organic - also did not sell any supermarket type stuff such as Bryers, Garelick, Kelloggs cereals, Heinz ketchup etc. But the one we go to is on Main Street - it has a huge sit down area and sell great Vegan and vegetarian entrees - You can get tofu made in at least 4 different ways - I actually used Whole Foods to cater my daughters Bat Mitzvah - and the food was phenomonal! and Whole Foods has their own brand which makes getting Natural foods easier and less expensive. Bread and Circus on the other hand did not sell ANY PRODUCTS with refined sugars - corn syryp etc - where as Whole Foods market does. The one on North Main St is much bigger and better than the one on Waterman - and it is too bad that you did not have a good experience there - but we do shop there all of the time and they offer a HUGE assortment of Organic vegetables and fruits and they clearly list it so u know if it is local, imported (and from where) and Organic or conventionally grown. i just completely avoid the Fish/sushi/meat area! Whole foods also has a great vitamin/homeopathic/naturopathic and beauty center where you can buy just about everything. So it is convenient and they have a great selection - but they also try to cater to the mainstream as well as vegans and vegetarians - and I think that has helped make them so successful. Terry Somerson <terry wrote: Hi Lauren, I was in the Whole Foods on Waterman St. in Providence the other day and the place reeked of bad fish and spoiled meat. I was really distressed by the atmosphere in the store. I've always enjoyed shopping in Whole Foods -- the store in Palo Alto near where I lived in California for a long time was like heaven -- but it seems that more and more now they are pushing meat and fish front and center. Have you noticed this in the Providence stores? Has there been a change of management at Whole Foods? Terry U R so right - I live in a RI in a rural town - but we are close to Providence and near all conveniences including Whole Food Markets. It is extremely difficult to have to make some of these decisions regarding food and purchases. I can boycott Wal-Mart - but that is because there are other stores neat me that aren't as bad - but if you only have a Wal-Mart near your choices are extremely limited. I guess in general we all just try to do what is in the best interest of our families while trying to maintain some kind of consistency in our daily lives. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 25, 2005 We live near Ardmore, where there just happens to be a new health food store (Health Advantage) and VEGAN cafe (Brookview Cafe). Everything's delicious. Hot and cold sandwiches, soups, pasta dishes, chili, tofu cheesecake, crepes, smoothies. The chef is amazing. I think Ardmore's a half-hour south of where you are. The place just opened this week, and we've been frequenting it as much as we can. Right now it's open M-Th 11-3, but it will be extending the hours in the next few weeks. We also go to Norman about every week to do our shopping. There are a couple of good HFS's with great organic produce selections. One of them, The Earth, also has a deli and juice bar in it. I know Sulphur. My parents took us to the springs all the time for picnics and stuff when we were kids. We also go to the animal park in Wynnewood, which is pretty close to you. It's more educational than entertaining (we don't do zoo's), and I feel good supporting a non-profit animal rescue organization. It does good for the older kids to see what happens to animals who aren't taken care of. Nice to hear from a fellow Oklahoman, and seriously, try the cafe sometime. Shayla , " Chessie " <vegetariyum@c...> wrote: > > Shayla, > > > > We didn't get that far - to the idea of people eating meat - I am > certain she has no idea that it happens! But I really was amazed by her > response to the exhibit. We go there a lot, my girls love, love, love > the dinosaurs! We are in southeastern OK - small city called Sulphur. > Where are you.and where do you shop? I'm always looking for more > shopping options!! > > > > Chessie > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2005 Shayla, I have been driving by that place for months waiting for it to open! I was thrilled to see that it had last week, but only had time to run in and stock up on Blue Sky soda (yum!). I do plan to go back a lot! The cafe menu looked great, and I am looking forward to trying it out. My husband is a cop in Ardmore and we are there frequently. I generally stop by The Earth and Dodson's in Norman; are there other places with similar offerings? I am actually the city manager in Sulphur, so let me extend a personal invitation to you to visit when you have time. I also have been visiting the park since childhood; it is a special place and worth protecting. We have not been to the place in Wynnewood yet, but hope to go eventually. My kiddos are almost 2 and almost 3, with the next one due to arrive May 25. I imagine our travel plans will be fairly limited for some time afterwards! Thanks again for the lowdown on Brookview; I can't wait to try it!! Chessie - wisheyemay Friday, March 25, 2005 4:07 PM Re: (unknown) We live near Ardmore, where there just happens to be a new health food store (Health Advantage) and VEGAN cafe (Brookview Cafe). Everything's delicious. Hot and cold sandwiches, soups, pasta dishes, chili, tofu cheesecake, crepes, smoothies. The chef is amazing. I think Ardmore's a half-hour south of where you are. The place just opened this week, and we've been frequenting it as much as we can. Right now it's open M-Th 11-3, but it will be extending the hours in the next few weeks. We also go to Norman about every week to do our shopping. There are a couple of good HFS's with great organic produce selections. One of them, The Earth, also has a deli and juice bar in it. I know Sulphur. My parents took us to the springs all the time for picnics and stuff when we were kids. We also go to the animal park in Wynnewood, which is pretty close to you. It's more educational than entertaining (we don't do zoo's), and I feel good supporting a non-profit animal rescue organization. It does good for the older kids to see what happens to animals who aren't taken care of. Nice to hear from a fellow Oklahoman, and seriously, try the cafe sometime. Shayla , " Chessie " <vegetariyum@c...> wrote: > > Shayla, > > > > We didn't get that far - to the idea of people eating meat - I am > certain she has no idea that it happens! But I really was amazed by her > response to the exhibit. We go there a lot, my girls love, love, love > the dinosaurs! We are in southeastern OK - small city called Sulphur. > Where are you.and where do you shop? I'm always looking for more > shopping options!! > > > > Chessie > > > For more information about vegetarianism, please visit the VRG website at http://www.vrg.org and for materials especially useful for families go to http://www.vrg.org/family.This is a discussion list and is not intended to provide personal medical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. edical advice. Medical advice should be obtained from a qualified health professional. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted March 29, 2005 Chessie, There's a new place in Norman across from the mall (in the plaza by Sam's) called...House of Health, maybe? They have some different things than the places I usually go, although it's a pretty small shop. I'm mostly interested in their homeopathy and supplement options. They do have a really nice smoothie and juice bar and a deli with veg and vegan selections. We also waited for months for Health Advantage to open in it's new store. It has definitely lived up to it's hype as far as the restaurant goes, and they're starting to carry some organic produce instead of having to do the co-op. Nothing is as cheap as in Norman or the city, but the convenience is nice. Homeland in Ardmore (and possibly where you live) has almost as much in the way of frozen organic/veg stuff, and a lot of the same soups, cereals, organic baking goods/mixes, etc... It's taken us a while to sniff everything out, but we can pretty much find everything we need at one place or another. Congrats on your upcoming arrival! I can't wait to start trying for another (I've got a 4yo and 16mo). I love being pregnant. Shayla PS Have you tried the Uber Super Earth Burger at The Earth? No greater sandwich has ever existed. You can get it w/vegan cheeze too, which is hard to come by. , " Chessie & Tracy " <vegetariyum@c...> wrote: > > Shayla, > > I have been driving by that place for months waiting for it to open! I was thrilled to see that it had last week, but only had time to run in and stock up on Blue Sky soda (yum!). I do plan to go back a lot! The cafe menu looked great, and I am looking forward to trying it out. My husband is a cop in Ardmore and we are there frequently. I generally stop by The Earth and Dodson's in Norman; are there other places with similar offerings? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 15, 2005 Dear Atanu Dey, Im am so sorry to hear about health problems. Do you have chance of getting better? I dont have much medical knowledege but when I was in my early 20'S , Im in my 50's now , I got a form of hepetitus due to stress and bad eating habits and to much alcohol and ended up in hospital. And I was a meat eater at that time. I was wondering if any of those factors I just mentioned or other things that might have contributed to your health problems. Like you I have been a milk and egg vegetarian for years and only recently have given veganism a go. It seems to me ,veganism requires some knowlege and study about vitamins, minerals etc and needs to be planned better. Having said that, when I complain about being tired or have a headache or something , my meat eating friends blame it on my diet w out bothering to consider any other possiblities. I guess what Im saying is if a vegan diet isnt well followed it can cause problem just as it could in any kind of diet. And the other thing is people can blame any problem on a vegan or veggie diet. What I would like to know is the reasons your doctor gave you .Ask him or her to explain in more detail? Bless you and our thoughts are with you. Kind regads Silvia - " atanu dey " <atanu_dey1 " state your cause " <stateyourcause >, towardsveganism <towardsveganism >, wearevegans <wearevegans >, aapn <aapn >, aars <aars >, " against animal abuse " <againstanimalabuse >, ALF <alfanimalliberationfront >, " animal net " <animal_net >, " ar activist " <animalrightsactivistresources >, Ar_activist <AR_Activists >, " campaigns for better world " <campaignsforabetterworld >, care4animals <care4animals >, " Correct Treatment " <CorrectTreatment >, go_vegan <go_vegan >, " green vibrations " , " Humane SDPM " <HumaneSDPM >, humaneeducationnetwork <humaneeducationnetwork >, NPSCAR <NPSCAR >, " " (unknown) Sat, 14 May 2005 08:22:13 -0700 (PDT) > > > Dear Friend, > > I am Atanu Dey from North Eastern part of India. I am a > vegetarian for last ten years and an ethical vegan for two years > last. I belong to a place, where per capita income is not very high > and where non-vegetarian food is perceived as balanced diet > considering the socio-economic structure of the area. I had > undertaken a silent experiment on myself about how to maintain > nutrient supplement and sufficient calorie for a normal working > person with vegetarian or vegan diet while maintaining the cost of > ones daily food at lower end. It was essential to maintain the cost > of the diet at low because here the per capita income is not very > good and it is believed, the cost of vegetarian diet to be more > compared to cheaper source of non-vegetarian food. It was hard to > propagate the ideology and philosophy of love for animals and > ethical veganism to others though the result of my experiment on my > own was apparently very good as I maintained a very healthy body > with cheaper and easily > available vegan food. > > But, very recently in the Month of April '05, I developed > acute hepatitis and it almost spoiled the liver. I was detected a > shrunk lever which, I was told was very rare contrary to expansion > of liver. The Doctors straightly blamed it on my long followed food > habit and it took no time to spread among all my known ones. I had > to be rushed to a bigger hospital and needed intensive and > expensive treatment for long days to recuperate partially. > > Now, at this point of time, I find myself standing on the > ruins of all I had and all I tried to make bit by bit. I find my > health lost and organ (liver) damaged to an extent, I find all my > savings finished to end in treatment and most of all, I find my > philosophy of sympathy for animals and ethical treatment for them > suffering a humiliating setback to all my known and even unknowns > in my place. > > Friend, here, I express my regret and my embarrassment to > engage you in a problem which essentially is very personal to me > but just as we are in the fraternity and share a great common ethic > and ideology, it drives me to ask for a response from you to help > me regain my courage to re-engage myself for the great cause of > sympathy and care for animals. > > With care and thanks, > > > > Atanu Dey > > M/s Dey's Engineering > > Sib Bari Rd., P.O. Diphu > > Dist. Karbi Anglong, Assam, India. > > PIN 782460 > > > > > > Mail > Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 19, 2005 Dear Atanu, I am very sorry to hear about your illness. As I have no medical training, I cannot comment on what may have caused your hepatitis. And although I am not exactly sure what you mean when you say " ethical vegan " , I would find it hard to believe that following a properly balanced vegan diet would result in sickness to one's vital organs. Of course a diet of pure fruits, for example, would be dangerous but I do not think that is what you mean. In any case, please take heart that there are brothers and sisters " out there " who are kin to your beliefs regarding animals. To be sure, while it is slowly becoming less strange, it is not always a popular stance and does require some degree of active or passive resistance to the pressures of the majority who believe that animals are here for the convenience of humans. You and I do not are not of this faith, and act accordingly. With best wishes to you and Bon Courage (have good courage), Kirsten Conrad aapn [aapn ]On Behalf Of atanu dey Saturday, May 14, 2005 8:22 AM state your cause; towardsveganism; wearevegans; aapn; aars; against animal abuse; ALF; animal net; ar activist; Ar_activist; campaigns for better world; care4animals; Correct Treatment; go_vegan; green vibrations; Humane SDPM; humaneeducationnetwork; NPSCAR; (unknown) Dear Friend, I am Atanu Dey from North Eastern part of India. I am a vegetarian for last ten years and an ethical vegan for two years last. I belong to a place, where per capita income is not very high and where non-vegetarian food is perceived as balanced diet considering the socio-economic structure of the area. I had undertaken a silent experiment on myself about how to maintain nutrient supplement and sufficient calorie for a normal working person with vegetarian or vegan diet while maintaining the cost of ones daily food at lower end. It was essential to maintain the cost of the diet at low because here the per capita income is not very good and it is believed, the cost of vegetarian diet to be more compared to cheaper source of non-vegetarian food. It was hard to propagate the ideology and philosophy of love for animals and ethical veganism to others though the result of my experiment on my own was apparently very good as I maintained a very healthy body with cheaper and easily available vegan food. But, very recently in the Month of April '05, I developed acute hepatitis and it almost spoiled the liver. I was detected a shrunk lever which, I was told was very rare contrary to expansion of liver. The Doctors straightly blamed it on my long followed food habit and it took no time to spread among all my known ones. I had to be rushed to a bigger hospital and needed intensive and expensive treatment for long days to recuperate partially. Now, at this point of time, I find myself standing on the ruins of all I had and all I tried to make bit by bit. I find my health lost and organ (liver) damaged to an extent, I find all my savings finished to end in treatment and most of all, I find my philosophy of sympathy for animals and ethical treatment for them suffering a humiliating setback to all my known and even unknowns in my place. Friend, here, I express my regret and my embarrassment to engage you in a problem which essentially is very personal to me but just as we are in the fraternity and share a great common ethic and ideology, it drives me to ask for a response from you to help me regain my courage to re-engage myself for the great cause of sympathy and care for animals. With care and thanks, Atanu Dey M/s Dey's Engineering Sib Bari Rd., P.O. Diphu Dist. Karbi Anglong, Assam, India. PIN 782460 Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 22, 2005 Read the bottom of the e-mail. Go to your and remove yourself. It really is easy. Lynda - Diane Hediger Tuesday, June 21, 2005 9:07 PM (unknown) this is the 3rd time! PLEASE TAKE ME OFF THE LIST!!!!!! Last time I had 500 messages. Please!! SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football To send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted October 26, 2005 I am so glad to hear that everything is well. it's also very refreshing to hear someone who rejoices at everything. I realize I am too much of a whiner too much of the time! This isn't the first storm of the season to affect you right? I hear the people of Florida are getting a little tired of nature's wrath! Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: hi all, woke up to electricity today!we had no power for two days. teh storm did very little damage.just lots of wind, a few trees were knocked down. no one was hurt. (at least in my town)our water never left, it just turned brown at times.but now everythings back to normal.my papaya and mango trees were on the floor, but we are going to try and plant them in the ground again.my smaller plants didn't make it. but I will try again. the only time I was a bit scared was when it sounded like our windows were about to break, but never did. and of course therewas a lot of lightning. I actually welcomed candles and flashlights, beacuseits a break from modern civilization. It made me aware of how dependent I am on electricity.the weeds survived just fine!To send an email to - FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted April 24, 2006 HI Melissa: will he eat Peanut butter, you can do apples with peanut butter. When my kids were small they were not big on cooked veggie, however they always ate veggies and dip. When we would go out to eat I would order a salad with the dressing on the side and they would eat it with the dip. They still eat veggies. gayle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted May 28, 2006 Stay with us, and you will learn Duygu. Ask questions. Eat many more beans if you can't get tofu and such. Tofu is quite reasonable as it goes a long way. Soups are good, and there are a lot of vegetarian soups out there on the shelves. Try to make sure your bread for toast and sandwiches is made with stone ground wheat. It is a better quality and has more useable vitamins. Marilyn Daub mcdaub Vanceburg, KY My Cats Knead Me!! - Duygu Sunday, May 28, 2006 9:26 AM (unknown) thanks for all the answers and hi sara! I'm concerned about if I do it the right way because I haven't made much change in my daily food. I need some vegetables containing much protein but not hard to find because I don't think my parents would try Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 28, 2006 .............. :-) and what's wrong with looking like a loon? Jo - cortney aldrich Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:59 PM (unknown) you gotta find a kid to play in the snow with. Or else you run the risk of looking like a loon. Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 28, 2006 absolutely nothing Jo!jo <jo.heartwork wrote: ............. :-) and what's wrong with looking like a loon? Jo - cortney aldrich Wednesday, June 28, 2006 9:59 PM (unknown) you gotta find a kid to play in the snow with. Or else you run the risk of looking like a loon. Next-gen email? Have it all with the all-new Mail Beta. How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted June 29, 2006 Hi Cortney >you gotta find a kid to play in the snow with. Or else you run the risk of looking like a loon. You say that as though it's a bad thing :-) BB Peter Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted July 27, 2006 Welcome, Shweta ... you can probably give us some suggestions! Coleen Shweta Upadhyay <shweta0109 wrote: hi everyone this is SHWETA. I am from Delhi which is in India. I m 17 yr and 10 months old. I have been a veggie all my life as I m a hindu and eating non veg is not allowed in our family so no one in my family eats non veg. Here’s a new way to find what you're looking for - Answers Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted September 29, 2006 Hi Anouk, It is also worth thinking of having gently sloping sides to the pond to encourage wildlife of all shapes and sizes. The Valley Vegan...................Anouk Sickler <zurumato wrote: hi peter and fraggel,for the sake of not going back and reading all of thoseold post, I will just answer your question here.yes,i do remove the algae from the pond. with a fork, or a twig.usually about twice a week.when it rains alot, for instance this month, I don'tneed to do anything at all because the Rain water removes/cleans the water and refreshes it. also I have a water plant in it, which I believe gives oxygen to the water and forms a pad for the frogs to rest from swimming. -anoukTo send an email to - Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
