Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna! What is more likely?RegardsNeelamOn 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:  Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she was > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of name > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in 8H. > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6.50 hrs/Delhi > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear Anita ji, > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a > > particular star , become stars, all of them. > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > <%40>, > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of hers > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If you > > see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the > > world????????? > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > <%40> > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > >  > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > >  > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > personality with predictable consequences. > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >  > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was > > a > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > the > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > has > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > only > > > > thing > > > associated with 8th house. > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > > > effects > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > antihero. > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > > > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > > out > > > > her life. > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > > > in > > > > 8H!! > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > and > > > > scandals! > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > are > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > that. > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > destruction. > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or PowerÃÆ'‚ > > > > and which > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > 2009 > > > > > > I am running antardasha of > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > trikonas > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > > how > > > > will > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > will > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and > > > do > > > > not > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 I feel Capricorn is more likely...... , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna! > What is more likely? > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > > > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she > > was > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of > > name > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in > > 8H. > > > > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6.50 hrs/Delhi > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... > > > > > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them. > > > > > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > <%40>, > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of > > hers > > > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If > > you > > > > see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made > > > > > > > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. > > > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What > > > > > > > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the > > > > world????????? > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > To: <%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > <%40> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we > > need > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre > > > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > > > > > > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting > > from > > > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > One > > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > was > > > > a > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > > > the > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > > cannot > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > > > has > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > mehta > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > > only > > > > > > thing > > > > > associated with 8th house. > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'‚ VRY well. Its > > > > > > > > > > effects > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > antihero. > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'‚ adverse > > > > > > > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > > > > > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > through > > > > > out > > > > > > her life. > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > Jup > > > > > in > > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > and > > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > > > and > > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > > are > > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'‚ not astrology. > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > Kachuaa > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > and which > > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > Horoscope > > > > > as > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > > september > > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ...and > > > > how > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > > > will > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > > > and > > > > > do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > > interested.. > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 And sorry, I should have written 7.00 am and not pm, because I have 7.00am only mentioned in my records and not PM. Again for troubling you on this... - In , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna! > What is more likely? > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > > > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she > > was > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of > > name > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in > > 8H. > > > > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6.50 hrs/Delhi > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... > > > > > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them. > > > > > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > <%40>, > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of > > hers > > > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If > > you > > > > see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made > > > > > > > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. > > > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What > > > > > > > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the > > > > world????????? > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > <%40> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we > > need > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre > > > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > > > > > > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting > > from > > > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > One > > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > was > > > > a > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > > > the > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > > cannot > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > > > has > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > mehta > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > > only > > > > > > thing > > > > > associated with 8th house. > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'‚ VRY well. Its > > > > > > > > > > effects > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > antihero. > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'‚ adverse > > > > > > > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > > > > > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > through > > > > > out > > > > > > her life. > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > Jup > > > > > in > > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > and > > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > > > and > > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > > are > > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'‚ not astrology. > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > Kachuaa > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > and which > > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > Horoscope > > > > > as > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > > september > > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > > > > how > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > > > will > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > > > and > > > > > do > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > > interested.. > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 And you know how I realised my mistake ? I have since long been speaking on the Ruling Planets. It was about 7.00am when I made this Prashna Kundli to check whether she was a Capri or a Leo. And wonder of wonders I had Capricorn with Venus in Lagna , which is why I checked my records to find out wheres the mistake, and then realised that my records were showing right, and its ony me who typed pm instead of am. thanks. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > And sorry, I should have written 7.00 am and not pm, because I have 7.00am only mentioned in my records and not PM. Again for troubling you on this... > > > - In , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri > > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna! > > What is more likely? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe > > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > > > > > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she > > > was > > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala > > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of > > > name > > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. > > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and > > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in > > > 8H. > > > > > > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6.50 hrs/Delhi > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... > > > > > > > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a > > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them. > > > > > > > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which > > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com> > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly > > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of > > > hers > > > > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I > > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If > > > you > > > > > see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes > > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, > > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. > > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also > > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made > > > > > > > > > > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging > > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. > > > > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are > > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the > > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the > > > > > world????????? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > > <%40> > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we > > > need > > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre > > > > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > > > > > > > > > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > > > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting > > > from > > > > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > > cope > > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > > help > > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > > One > > > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > > was > > > > > a > > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > > > > the > > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > > > > has > > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > > mehta > > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > > > only > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > associated with 8th house. > > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'‚ VRY well. Its > > > > > > > > > > > > > effects > > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > > antihero. > > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'‚ adverse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > > > > > > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > > through > > > > > > out > > > > > > > her life. > > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > > Jup > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > > and > > > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > > > > and > > > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > > > are > > > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > > in> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'‚ not astrology. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > > Kachuaa > > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > and which > > > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and > > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > > Horoscope > > > > > > as > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > > > september > > > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of > > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji,Between LEO and CAP, latter is more likely, of course. Unless we have another time. One can never be sure with these people. Actually 7.00 AM gives her Aqua lagna, but I somehow concluded from her life history sometime back that her time could've been a few minutes earlier to give her capri lagna. Hence i shared the the 6.50 AM data. Astrology has so many ways of telling! RP theory is surely very reliable in good hands! So you confirmed what I concluded earlier! Thanks.RegardsNeelamOn 4 February 2010 07:18, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:  And you know how I realised my mistake ? I have since long been speaking on the Ruling Planets. It was about 7.00am when I made this Prashna Kundli to check whether she was a Capri or a Leo. And wonder of wonders I had Capricorn with Venus in Lagna , which is why I checked my records to find out wheres the mistake, and then realised that my records were showing right, and its ony me who typed pm instead of am. thanks. Bhaskar. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > And sorry, I should have written 7.00 am and not pm, because I have 7.00am only mentioned in my records and not PM. Again for troubling you on this... > > > - In , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri > > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna! > > What is more likely? > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe > > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > > > > > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she > > > was > > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala > > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of > > > name > > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. > > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and > > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in > > > 8H. > > > > > > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6.50 hrs/Delhi > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... > > > > > > > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a > > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them. > > > > > > > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which > > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly > > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of > > > hers > > > > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I > > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If > > > you > > > > > see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes > > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, > > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. > > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also > > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made > > > > > > > > > > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging > > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. > > > > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are > > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the > > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the > > > > > world????????? > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > <%40> > > > <%40> > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we > > > need > > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre > > > > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > > > > > > > > > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > > > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting > > > from > > > > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > > cope > > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > > help > > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > > One > > > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > > was > > > > > a > > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > > > > the > > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > > > > has > > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > > mehta > > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > > > only > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > associated with 8th house. > > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'‚ VRY well. Its > > > > > > > > > > > > > effects > > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > > antihero. > > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'‚ adverse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > > > > > > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > > through > > > > > > out > > > > > > > her life. > > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > > Jup > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > > and > > > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > > > > and > > > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > > > are > > > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > > in> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'‚ not astrology. > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > > Kachuaa > > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > and which > > > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and > > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > > Horoscope > > > > > > as > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > > > september > > > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of > > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > > > > > how > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > > > > and > > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > > > interested.. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji,I have no idea if you have seen this. If you have, ignore it , if you haven't hope you enjoy it. Our Lager Which art in barrels hallowed be thy drink Thy will be drunk(I will be drunk) At home as in the tavern Give us this day our foamy head and forgive us our spillages As we forgive those who spill against us And lead us not to incarceration But deliver us from hangovers For thine is the beer, The bitter and the lager, Forever and ever Barmen:))),Anita --- On Wed, 3/2/10, CP <nanna_id2006 wrote:CP <nanna_id2006 Re: House No. 8! Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 1:29 PM Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji, Ha..ha...:-) //Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya...// Not only on this subject Sir but also for all other things about you like your knowledge sharing, your Marketing tacticts in post(s)( not all but in some posts) your honesty, etc i personally like and appreciate much. (much of your views and writings (Non-Astro) matches mine but i a m poor writer) and trying to learn which i feel is good. But i am also a brutally honest person hence i shared what i have been doing or gone through in Dasha of 8H. //This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily...// I completely agree with you...those facts in my prvious post are for genuine stduy purpose Now i myself wonder how i were able to manage those pints/Busy work multiple tasks/college life/flirting etc etc.. your advise has been taken with great SPIRIT (180ML)now onwards:-):- ) Regards Chandu2Chill ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya... > // I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu > MD my intake > of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically)/ / > This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily... > > Rahu is what I am running now. Rahu was what you were running then. And > Rahu is what this CA gentleman who came to my place yesterday is running > now. (I mentioned about him in another mail, but did not mention that he > has started drinking daily now and in good quantities since his Rahu MD > started). > > Rahu does produce in a man the desire to intoxicate. > > but must say you are an expert in bringing out your chart somehow or > the other and keep it actively in discussion on these Groups. Haha. > Tussi gr8 ho ji. > > Cheers, and best wishes,' > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "CP" <nanna_id2006@ > > wrote: > > > > Dear Neelam Ji and All, > > > > I have all the Masala and practical life events to share for this > *House No 8* > > > > //8L in 9th would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. Suppose one inherits > some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to use it!! This is 8L > in 9th!// > > > > I have 8L (Mars) in 9H and enjoyed all the comforts and Luxurious life > Courtesy Father's Money, Business, Weath and Power.That too during 8L MD > education and in RAHU MD. Rahu is in my 8H entire Rahu MD was Excellent > > > > 1. Completed B'com graduation > > > > 2. Technical training on Servicing TVs father was running and > Electronics and Electrical shop > > > > 3. College life was vibrant with many girl friends even majority of > Girl band supporting me and my Gang in elections hence attracted attacks > and Lot of Street fights from my opponents But was successful in qushing > them. Note: I never initited any fights but used to give my opponents > fitting reply > > > > 4. Regular visits Temples, visited many Holy places in Karnataka > Andhra (Mantralaya) > > > > 5. Was working almost 24x7 mode College, Shop used to travel a lot for > sales (distribution business) within 4 Districts of Karnataka > > > > 6. 7-8 Accedents 2 were major but recovered fast. Interesting thing is > I never met with any accedent when i was Drunk and driving all accedents > happened when i was not drunk. i am mentioning this since all my friends > and even my Dad were Stunned about this my unique feature and were very > much comforatble and confident when i am driving the Car after the Night > -out Parties!! > > > > I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu MD > my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced > dratically) > > > > 7. Love Affairs 2 (Note: No Scandals:-): -)) > > 8. Casual and Physical relationships 4 > > 9. Foreign Travel > > 10. Foreign Job(s) > > 11. Last thing happened was The Marriage:-( > > > > Though My Father has 2 Properties now, Honestly i never inclined or > wish to get any inheritance i personally do not believe in that somehow. > Rather i am more inclined to Aquire my OWN Assets. > > > > Hope this will help in study and further research in Astrology > > > > Regards > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > The basic tenet is that trik lords when placed in kendra or kona > positions > > > do well for their houses but spoil the house they are posited in. 8L > in 9th > > > would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. > > > Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no > luck to > > > use it!! This is 8L in 9th! > > > > > > I know of such a case. A man has inherited huge property after the > death of > > > his father, but it is all old rented property givin meagre rent and > he has > > > had no luck with it! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 20:55, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small aside - > > > > > > > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house > is > > > > considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 > planets in > > > > 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ * wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the > cause (or > > > > drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > 8L has > > > > gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak > or else > > > > it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the > two house > > > > lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H > to be > > > > strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > fibre of > > > > the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, > plenty of > > > > opportunity to express this side of the personality with > predictable > > > > consequences. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > ** neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > *Sent:* Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > suicide > > > > or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > recorded > > > > cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting from a > "probable > > > > suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about the > > > > circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > found. Some > > > > conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other > theories > > > > suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > in<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=bhaskar_ jyotish@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > >> > > > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > >> > > > >> They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > cope > > > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > family > > > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > help > > > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit > suicide. One > > > >> needs guts to kill himself. > > > >> > > > >> Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > must > > > >> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in > order to > > > >> take such a major step in Life. > > > >> > > > >> I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe > who was a > > > >> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > >> romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > >> > > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=ancient_ indian_astrolog\ > y%40. com>, > > > >> "Bhaskar" > > > >> > > > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > >> > > > > >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > checking the > > > >> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > got > > > >> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > cannot > > > >> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in > movies. He > > > >> has > > > >> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > >> > > > > >> > regards, > > > >> > > > > >> > Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=ancient_ indian_astrolog\ > y%40. com>, > > > >> chiranjiv mehta > > > >> > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > >> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is > the only > > > >> > thing associated with 8th house. > > > >> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > also > > > >> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > >> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > effects > > > >> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > >> antihero. > > > >> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > >> > circumstances. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > >> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=ancient_ indian_astrolog\ > y%40. com> > > > >> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > through > > > >> out > > > >> > her life. > > > >> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup > and Jup > > > >> in > > > >> > 8H!! > > > >> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > >> > > Neelam > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > gmail.com> > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Dear All, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are > fairly > > > >> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling > for and > > > >> > expecting some practical demos. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > authentic. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > >> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > >> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > secrets > > > >> and > > > >> > scandals! > > > >> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > which are > > > >> > made by the 8H. > > > >> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > >> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > All comments are welcome! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > >> > > Neelam > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > in> > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > Kachuaa > > > >> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will > see > > > >> that. > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > >> > destruction. > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > which > > > >> > nobody want to see. > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > of VRY > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > Indian Kachua > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > >> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Freinds, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > Horoscope > > > >> as > > > >> > a > > > >> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > september > > > >> > 2009 > > > >> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > Lagna. Its > > > >> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > and > > > >> > > > retrograde both. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > and > > > >> > trikonas > > > >> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > ..and how > > > >> > will > > > >> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > what > > > >> will > > > >> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > now... and > > > >> do > > > >> > not > > > >> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > interested.. > > > >> . > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > best wishes, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Anita ji, I had not seen this. And enjoyed it thouroughly. Haha. cheers, Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > I have no idea if you have seen this. If you have, ignore it , if you haven't hope you enjoy it. > > > > > >  > >  Our Lager > > Which art in barrels > > hallowed be thy drink > > Thy will be drunk(I will be drunk) > > At home as in the tavern > > Give us this day our foamy head > > and forgive us our spillages > > > > As we forgive those who spill against > us > > And lead us not to incarceration > > But deliver us from hangovers > > For thine is the beer, The bitter and > the lager, > > Forever and ever > > Barmen > )),Anita > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > >  > >  > >  > >  > > > > --- On Wed, 3/2/10, CP nanna_id2006 wrote: > > CP nanna_id2006 > Re: House No. 8! > > Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 1:29 PM >  > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Ha..ha...:-) > > > > //Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya...// > > > > Not only on this subject Sir but also for all other things about you like your knowledge sharing, your Marketing tacticts in post(s)( not all but in some posts) your honesty, etc i personally like and appreciate much. (much of your views and writings (Non-Astro) matches mine but i a m poor writer) and trying to learn which i feel is good. But i am also a brutally honest person hence i shared what i have been doing or gone through in Dasha of 8H. > > > > //This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily...// > > > > I completely agree with you...those facts in my prvious post are for genuine stduy purpose Now i myself wonder how i were able to manage those pints/Busy work multiple tasks/college life/flirting etc etc.. > > > > your advise has been taken with great SPIRIT (180ML)now onwards:-):- ) > > > > Regards > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya... > > > > > // I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu > > > MD my intake > > > of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically)/ / > > > > > This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily... > > > > > > Rahu is what I am running now. Rahu was what you were running then. And > > > Rahu is what this CA gentleman who came to my place yesterday is running > > > now. (I mentioned about him in another mail, but did not mention that he > > > has started drinking daily now and in good quantities since his Rahu MD > > > started). > > > > > > Rahu does produce in a man the desire to intoxicate. > > > > > > but must say you are an expert in bringing out your chart somehow or > > > the other and keep it actively in discussion on these Groups. Haha. > > > Tussi gr8 ho ji. > > > > > > Cheers, and best wishes,' > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " CP " <nanna_id2006@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam Ji and All, > > > > > > > > I have all the Masala and practical life events to share for this > > > *House No 8* > > > > > > > > //8L in 9th would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. Suppose one inherits > > > some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to use it!! This is 8L > > > in 9th!// > > > > > > > > I have 8L (Mars) in 9H and enjoyed all the comforts and Luxurious life > > > Courtesy Father's Money, Business, Weath and Power.That too during 8L MD > > > education and in RAHU MD. Rahu is in my 8H entire Rahu MD was Excellent > > > > > > > > 1. Completed B'com graduation > > > > > > > > 2. Technical training on Servicing TVs father was running and > > > Electronics and Electrical shop > > > > > > > > 3. College life was vibrant with many girl friends even majority of > > > Girl band supporting me and my Gang in elections hence attracted attacks > > > and Lot of Street fights from my opponents But was successful in qushing > > > them. Note: I never initited any fights but used to give my opponents > > > fitting reply > > > > > > > > 4. Regular visits Temples, visited many Holy places in Karnataka > > > Andhra (Mantralaya) > > > > > > > > 5. Was working almost 24x7 mode College, Shop used to travel a lot for > > > sales (distribution business) within 4 Districts of Karnataka > > > > > > > > 6. 7-8 Accedents 2 were major but recovered fast. Interesting thing is > > > I never met with any accedent when i was Drunk and driving all accedents > > > happened when i was not drunk. i am mentioning this since all my friends > > > and even my Dad were Stunned about this my unique feature and were very > > > much comforatble and confident when i am driving the Car after the Night > > > -out Parties!! > > > > > > > > I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu MD > > > my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced > > > dratically) > > > > > > > > 7. Love Affairs 2 (Note: No Scandals:-): -)) > > > > 8. Casual and Physical relationships 4 > > > > 9. Foreign Travel > > > > 10. Foreign Job(s) > > > > 11. Last thing happened was The Marriage:-( > > > > > > > > Though My Father has 2 Properties now, Honestly i never inclined or > > > wish to get any inheritance i personally do not believe in that somehow. > > > Rather i am more inclined to Aquire my OWN Assets. > > > > > > > > Hope this will help in study and further research in Astrology > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > The basic tenet is that trik lords when placed in kendra or kona > > > positions > > > > > do well for their houses but spoil the house they are posited in. 8L > > > in 9th > > > > > would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. > > > > > Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no > > > luck to > > > > > use it!! This is 8L in 9th! > > > > > > > > > > I know of such a case. A man has inherited huge property after the > > > death of > > > > > his father, but it is all old rented property givin meagre rent and > > > he has > > > > > had no luck with it! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 20:55, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small aside - > > > > > > > > > > > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house > > > is > > > > > > considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 > > > planets in > > > > > > 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ * wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the > > > cause (or > > > > > > drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > > 8L has > > > > > > gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak > > > or else > > > > > > it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the > > > two house > > > > > > lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H > > > to be > > > > > > strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > > > fibre of > > > > > > the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, > > > plenty of > > > > > > opportunity to express this side of the personality with > > > predictable > > > > > > consequences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > ** neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > *Sent:* Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > > suicide > > > > > > or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > recorded > > > > > > cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a > > > " probable > > > > > > suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the > > > > > > circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > found. Some > > > > > > conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other > > > theories > > > > > > suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > > in<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=bhaskar_ jyotish@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > > cope > > > > > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > > family > > > > > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > > help > > > > > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit > > > suicide. One > > > > > >> needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > > > must > > > > > >> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in > > > order to > > > > > >> take such a major step in Life. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe > > > who was a > > > > > >> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > > >> romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > > com<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=ancient_ indian_astrolog\ > > > y%40. com>, > > > > > >> " Bhaskar " > > > > > >> > > > > > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > > checking the > > > > > >> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > > > got > > > > > >> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > cannot > > > > > >> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in > > > movies. He > > > > > >> has > > > > > >> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > regards, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Bhaskar. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > > com<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=ancient_ indian_astrolog\ > > > y%40. com>, > > > > > >> chiranjiv mehta > > > > > >> > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > >> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is > > > the only > > > > > >> > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > >> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > > > also > > > > > >> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > >> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > > effects > > > > > >> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > >> antihero. > > > > > >> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > >> > circumstances. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > >> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > > com<http://in.mc946. mail.. com/mc/compose? to=ancient_ indian_astrolog\ > > > y%40. com> > > > > > >> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > > through > > > > > >> out > > > > > >> > her life. > > > > > >> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup > > > and Jup > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> > 8H!! > > > > > >> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > > > >> > > Neelam > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > gmail.com> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Dear All, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are > > > fairly > > > > > >> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling > > > for and > > > > > >> > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > > > authentic. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > >> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > >> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > > secrets > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > scandals! > > > > > >> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > > > which are > > > > > >> > made by the 8H. > > > > > >> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > >> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > > > >> > > Neelam > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > > in> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > > Kachuaa > > > > > >> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will > > > see > > > > > >> that. > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > >> > destruction. > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > > > which > > > > > >> > nobody want to see. > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > > > of VRY > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > >> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > > Horoscope > > > > > >> as > > > > > >> > a > > > > > >> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > september > > > > > >> > 2009 > > > > > >> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > > Lagna. Its > > > > > >> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > > > and > > > > > >> > > > retrograde both. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > > > and > > > > > >> > trikonas > > > > > >> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > > > ..and how > > > > > >> > will > > > > > >> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > > > what > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > > > now... and > > > > > >> do > > > > > >> > not > > > > > >> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > interested.. > > > > > >> . > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > best wishes, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Hi,Thanks, will do that.Love,Anita--- On Wed, 3/2/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: House No. 8! Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 6:23 PM Dear Anita ji and all,We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she was our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu BalaSome interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of name and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in 8H. You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6. 50 hrs/DelhiRegards NeelamOn 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: dear Anita ji, Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a particular star , become stars, all of them. We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@.. .> wrote: > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of hers long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If you see Elton John's video "CANDLE IN THE WIND", when Marlene Monroe makes her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed "WOW' when she made her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the people who are born at the same time in different parts of the world??????? ?? > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ... wrote: > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ ... > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM >  > > > > Neelam Ji, >  > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! >  > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >  > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting from a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > >  > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > needs guts to kill himself. > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > take such a major step in Life. > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > has > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only > > thing > associated with 8th house. > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > antihero. > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > circumstances. > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > out > > her life. > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > in > > 8H!! > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > and > > scandals! > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > > made by the 8H. > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > >  > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > that. > > > >  > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > destruction. > > > >  > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which > > nobody want to see. > > > >  > > > > > > > Family and > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > >  > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > as > > a > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > > 2009 > > > > I am running antardasha of > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > trikonas > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > will > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > will > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > do > > not > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > . > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Madhubala is my first love and crush ! Though she was long gone before i was born she was my first childhood crush. Sigh ! Purana din yaad ageya.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Thu, 4/2/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: House No. 8! Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 11:52 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,Between LEO and CAP, latter is more likely, of course. Unless we have another time. One can never be sure with these people. Actually 7.00 AM gives her Aqua lagna, but I somehow concluded from her life history sometime back that her time could've been a few minutes earlier to give her capri lagna. Hence i shared the the 6.50 AM data.Astrology has so many ways of telling! RP theory is surely very reliable in good hands! So you confirmed what I concluded earlier! Thanks.RegardsNeelam On 4 February 2010 07:18, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: And you know how I realised my mistake ? I have since long been speaking on the Ruling Planets. It was about 7.00am when I made this Prashna Kundli to check whether she was a Capri or a Leo. And wonder of wonders I had Capricorn with Venus in Lagna , which is why I checked my records to find out wheres the mistake, and then realised that my records were showing right, and its ony me who typed pm instead of am.thanks. Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> And sorry, I should have written 7.00 am and not pm, because I have 7.00am only mentioned in my records and not PM. Again for troubling you on this...> > > - In ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> >> > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri> > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna!> > What is more likely?> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe> > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>,> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Anita ji and all,> > > >> > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she> > > was> > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala> > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of> > > name> > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36.> > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and> > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in> > > 8H.> > > >> > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6. 50 hrs/Delhi> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > dear Anita ji,> > > > >> > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women...> > > > >> > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a> > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them.> > > > >> > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which> > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>,> > >> > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji,> > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly> > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of> > > hers> > > > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I> > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If> > > you> > > > > see Elton John's video "CANDLE IN THE WIND", when Marlene Monroe makes> > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers,> > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching.> > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also> > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed "WOW' when she made> > >> > > > >> > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging> > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video..> > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world.> > > > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are> > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What> > >> > > > >> > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the> > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the> > > > > world??????? ??> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Anita> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> > > > >> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > >> > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Neelam Ji,> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause> > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded.> > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be> > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we> > > need> > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely> > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!!> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre> > > > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious> > >> > > > >> > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the> > > > > personality with predictable consequences.> > > > > > Â> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >  -Manoj> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be> > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates.> > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty.> > > > > >> > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office> > > > > recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting> > > from> > > > > a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about> > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was> > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while> > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > > > > >> > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > > > >> > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> > > cope> > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> > > help> > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> > > One> > > > > > needs guts to kill himself.> > > > > >> > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> > > > > > take such a major step in Life.> > > > > >> > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who> > > was> > > > > a> > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking> > > > > the> > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> > > > > cannot> > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> > > > > > has> > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv> > > mehta> > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> > > > > only> > > > > > > thing> > > > > > associated with 8th house.> > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'‚ VRY well. Its> > >> > > > >> > > > > effects> > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > > > > > antihero.> > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'‚ adverse> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > circumstances.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010,> > > > > > 4:12 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas> > > through> > > > > > out> > > > > > > her life.> > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and> > > Jup> > > > > > in> > > > > > > 8H!!> > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for> > > and> > > > > > > expecting some practical demos.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> > > > > > and> > > > > > > scandals!> > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which> > > > > are> > > > > > > made by the 8H.> > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.> > > in>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'‚ not astrology.> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian> > > Kachuaa> > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > > > > > that.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > > > > > destruction.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or> > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > >> > > > >> > > > > and which> > > > > > > nobody want to see.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Family and> > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my> > > Horoscope> > > > > > as> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> > > > > september> > > > > > > 2009> > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of> > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > > > > > retrograde both.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > > > > > > trikonas> > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and> > > > > how> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> > > > > and> > > > > > do> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> > > > > interested..> > > > > > .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 No sir, not at all.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkbRe: Re: House No. 8! Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 11:00 PM Sir, If they don't know about our great heritage, not even heard about Vishudanada Ji, Kaviraj Gopinath Ji, etc. Who is to be blamed for it? Should we also shirk from our responsibilty. RegardsKulbir Bains chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, 3 February, 2010 2:15:47 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Kulbirji, I do not know about this sage but...... The current generation does not know much about Samadhi taken bu a Sanyasi. My old school friend had gone to the Samadhi of a saint and came back asking me ... why do these guys commit sucide ?? So no use talking about it.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote: Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:43 PM Dear Goel ji, There has been a sage called KESHKAMBAL who strongly advocated suicide. Kindly read about him. RegardsKulbir Bains vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 8:56:16 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Bhaskerji,Hare Rama Krsna,//Suicides cannot be done by weak people....Only the strong can commit suicides.//I totally dis-agree with it.This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in the chart..//They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.//This explanation is only a joke.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has life energy of Sun within.Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to live life at all condition.Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. ------------ --------- --------- -Lal-Kitab says "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat meat. It destroys children.Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.------------ --------- ---------I have just put my thought :)Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> take such a major step in Life.> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> has> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only> > thing associated with 8th house.> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> antihero.> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > circumstances.> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> out> > her life.> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> in> > 8H!!> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > expecting some practical demos.> > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> and> > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are> > made by the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > >> > > All comments are welcome!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > Â> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> that...> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > destruction.> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which> > nobody want to see.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> as> > a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september> > 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how> > will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and> do> > not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested..> .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear ones,in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON respectively!!! or otherwise...Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be interesting....Birth data of both is given below...1.Desifirst.N.D.TEWARI..18-10-1925;KATHGODAM,INDIA2.BILL CLINTON..19-8-1946;HOTSPRINGS,U.S.Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..Love and regards,gopi. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All,> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> practical demos.> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> scandals!> She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> the 8H.> And finally she also died mysteriously!! May be 8H again?> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > All comments are welcome!> > Regards> Neelam> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > >> >> > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> >> >> >> >> > , Indian Kachuaa> > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > Â> >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > Â> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > to see.> > > Â> >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > Â> > > Indian Kachua> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Freinds,> > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > retrograde both.> > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Sir, Perhaps the Venus of Bill Clinton played a crucial role. RegardsKulbir Bains gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Thu, 4 February, 2010 1:57:51 AM Re: House No. 8! Dear ones,in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be interesting. ....Birth data of both is given below...1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> practical demos.> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> scandals!> She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> the 8H.> And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > All comments are welcome!> > Regards> Neelam> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > >> >> > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > Â> >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > Â> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > to see.> > > Â> >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > Â> > > Indian Kachua> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Freinds,> > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > retrograde both.> > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > it manifest itself...and please time it.> > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > >> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Chiranjiv Ji, There was nobody to tell me about our great spiritual and cultural heritage. There is a longing pain in my heart that why didn't I got it early; I had a genuine birth right over it (didn't I?, i was born in India) but no keys, no guides, obstacles (Punjab 1980 - 96) I am 38 now, had i received all this at the age of 20, I would have improved greatly. Fourtunately I found many genuine people who helped me. may be it was Maqtab or my Maqsad.. The persons who charge minimum of Rs. 25,000 for one horoscope analysis provide everything to me totally free. There are also some who care two hoots about money, they also are equally helpful. The basic question is our next generation requires spiritual nourishment, how to provide it to them? Collective efforts are required; otherwise JIS DESH KA BACHPAN BHOOKHA HAI US DESH KI JAWANI KYA HOGI. RegardsKulbir Bains chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 11:59:00 PMRe: Re: House No. 8! No sir, not at all.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote: Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyWednesday, 3 February, 2010, 11:00 PM Sir, If they don't know about our great heritage, not even heard about Vishudanada Ji, Kaviraj Gopinath Ji, etc. Who is to be blamed for it? Should we also shirk from our responsibilty. RegardsKulbir Bains chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>ancient_indian_ astrologyWed, 3 February, 2010 2:15:47 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Kulbirji, I do not know about this sage but....... The current generation does not know much about Samadhi taken bu a Sanyasi. My old school friend had gone to the Samadhi of a saint and came back asking me ... why do these guys commit sucide ?? So no use talking about it.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote: Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:43 PM Dear Goel ji, There has been a sage called KESHKAMBAL who strongly advocated suicide. Kindly read about him. RegardsKulbir Bains vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 8:56:16 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Bhaskerji,Hare Rama Krsna,//Suicides cannot be done by weak people....Only the strong can commit suicides.//I totally dis-agree with it.This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in the chart..//They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.//This explanation is only a joke.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has life energy of Sun within.Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to live life at all condition..Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. ------------ --------- --------- -Lal-Kitab says "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat meat.. It destroys children.Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.------------ --------- ---------I have just put my thought :)Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> take such a major step in Life.> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> has> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only> > thing associated with 8th house.> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> antihero.> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > circumstances.> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> out> > her life.> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> in> > 8H!!> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > expecting some practical demos.> > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> and> > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are> > made by the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > >> > > All comments are welcome!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > Â> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> that....> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > destruction.> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which> > nobody want to see.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> as> > a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september> > 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how> > will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and> do> > not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested..> .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 A thing of beauty is a joy for ever. RegardsKulbir Bains chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 11:54:06 PMRe: Re: House No. 8! Madhubala is my first love and crush ! Though she was long gone before i was born she was my first childhood crush. Sigh ! Purana din yaad ageya.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Thu, 4/2/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, 4 February, 2010, 11:52 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,Between LEO and CAP, latter is more likely, of course. Unless we have another time. One can never be sure with these people. Actually 7.00 AM gives her Aqua lagna, but I somehow concluded from her life history sometime back that her time could've been a few minutes earlier to give her capri lagna. Hence i shared the the 6.50 AM data.Astrology has so many ways of telling! RP theory is surely very reliable in good hands! So you confirmed what I concluded earlier! Thanks.RegardsNeelam The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Respected Mehta ji,I cannot recollect the circumstances of Madhubalas death. Could you enlighten me? I thought I could take the liberty of asking you since you claim you are a fan of hers.Thanks,Anita--- On Thu, 4/2/10, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote:chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjivRe: Re: House No. 8! Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:54 AM Madhubala is my first love and crush ! Though she was long gone before i was born she was my first childhood crush. Sigh ! Purana din yaad ageya.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Thu, 4/2/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, 4 February, 2010, 11:52 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,Between LEO and CAP, latter is more likely, of course. Unless we have another time. One can never be sure with these people. Actually 7.00 AM gives her Aqua lagna, but I somehow concluded from her life history sometime back that her time could've been a few minutes earlier to give her capri lagna. Hence i shared the the 6.50 AM data.Astrology has so many ways of telling! RP theory is surely very reliable in good hands! So you confirmed what I concluded earlier! Thanks.RegardsNeelam On 4 February 2010 07:18, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: And you know how I realised my mistake ? I have since long been speaking on the Ruling Planets. It was about 7.00am when I made this Prashna Kundli to check whether she was a Capri or a Leo. And wonder of wonders I had Capricorn with Venus in Lagna , which is why I checked my records to find out wheres the mistake, and then realised that my records were showing right, and its ony me who typed pm instead of am.thanks. Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> And sorry, I should have written 7.00 am and not pm, because I have 7.00am only mentioned in my records and not PM. Again for troubling you on this...> > > - In ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> >> > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri> > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna!> > What is more likely?> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe> > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>,> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Anita ji and all,> > > >> > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she> > > was> > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala> > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of> > > name> > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36.> > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and> > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in> > > 8H.> > > >> > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6. 50 hrs/Delhi> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > dear Anita ji,> > > > >> > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women...> > > > >> > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a> > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them.> > > > >> > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which> > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>,> > >> > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji,> > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly> > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of> > > hers> > > > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I> > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If> > > you> > > > > see Elton John's video "CANDLE IN THE WIND", when Marlene Monroe makes> > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers,> > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching.> > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also> > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed "WOW' when she made> > >> > > > >> > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging> > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video..> > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world.> > > > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are> > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What> > >> > > > >> > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the> > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the> > > > > world??????? ??> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Anita> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> > > > >> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > >> > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Neelam Ji,> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause> > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded.> > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be> > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we> > > need> > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely> > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!!> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre> > > > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious> > >> > > > >> > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the> > > > > personality with predictable consequences.> > > > > > Â> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >  -Manoj> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be> > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates.> > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty.> > > > > >> > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office> > > > > recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting> > > from> > > > > a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about> > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was> > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while> > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > > > > >> > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > > > >> > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> > > cope> > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> > > help> > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> > > One> > > > > > needs guts to kill himself.> > > > > >> > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> > > > > > take such a major step in Life.> > > > > >> > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who> > > was> > > > > a> > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking> > > > > the> > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> > > > > cannot> > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> > > > > > has> > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv> > > mehta> > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> > > > > only> > > > > > > thing> > > > > > associated with 8th house.> > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'‚ VRY well. Its> > >> > > > >> > > > > effects> > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > > > > > antihero.> > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'‚ adverse> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > circumstances.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010,> > > > > > 4:12 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas> > > through> > > > > > out> > > > > > > her life.> > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and> > > Jup> > > > > > in> > > > > > > 8H!!> > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for> > > and> > > > > > > expecting some practical demos.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> > > > > > and> > > > > > > scandals!> > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which> > > > > are> > > > > > > made by the 8H.> > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.> > > in>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'‚ not astrology.> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian> > > Kachuaa> > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > > > > > that.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > > > > > destruction.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or> > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > >> > > > >> > > > > and which> > > > > > > nobody want to see.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Family and> > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my> > > Horoscope> > > > > > as> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> > > > > september> > > > > > > 2009> > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of> > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > > > > > retrograde both.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > > > > > > trikonas> > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and> > > > > how> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> > > > > and> > > > > > do> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> > > > > interested..> > > > > > .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Kulbir,Ven with Mars in lagna for Clinton and Ven in Scorpio in 3rd(kama trikona) for Tewari and Moon(mind) conected to 8H of secrecy all played crucial roles for sure....Love and regards,gopi. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:>> Sir,> Perhaps the Venus of Bill Clinton played a crucial role.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > Thu, 4 February, 2010 1:57:51 AM> Re: House No. 8!> >  > Dear ones,> in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting > > to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON > > respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it > > is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be > > interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...> 1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA> 2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.> Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> > as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> > practical demos.> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> > Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> > scandals!> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> > the 8H.> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > > Â> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > > Â> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > > to see.> > > > Â> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > Â> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Gopal Krishna Ji,Just wanted to share something. Bill Clinton was an adopted child. Combination of eighth and ninth lord in his horoscope. Born with dasha balance of Sun twelfth lord placed in twelfth house.Regards,Soniagopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Thu, 4 February, 2010 3:27:51 PM Re: House No. 8! Dear ones,in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> practical demos.> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> scandals!> She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> the 8H.> And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > All comments are welcome!> > Regards> Neelam> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > >> >> > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > Â> >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > Â> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > to see.> > > Â> >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > Â> > > Indian Kachua> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > >> > >> > > Â> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Freinds,> > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > retrograde both.> > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > >> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Sir, Mrs. Hillary Clinton came forward to rescue Mr. Clinton. Mr.Tewari got way by one line statement "Sabhi mere bache,Main sab ka baap". No.3 no doubt was a crucial factor in his case. RegardsKulbir Bains gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Sent: Thu, 4 February, 2010 5:28:34 AM Re: House No. 8! Dear Kulbir,Ven with Mars in lagna for Clinton and Ven in Scorpio in 3rd(kama trikona) for Tewari and Moon(mind) conected to 8H of secrecy all played crucial roles for sure....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@. ..> wrote:>> Sir,> Perhaps the Venus of Bill Clinton played a crucial role.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 4 February, 2010 1:57:51 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >  > Dear ones,> in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting > > to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON > > respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it > > is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be > > interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...> 1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA> 2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.> Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> > as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> > practical demos.> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> > Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> > scandals!> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> > the 8H.> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > > Â> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > > Â> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > > to see.> > > > Â> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > Â> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Gopiji, What if kama trikona is in Vyay Bhava ( 12 th house ) ? How to interpret it ? Is it to be seen as expense of Kama or to be seen in context of bed pleasures ? Thanks & RegardsChiranjiv Mehta+ 91 9324168001--- On Thu, 4/2/10, gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 wrote: gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 Re: House No. 8! Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 6:58 PM Dear Kulbir,Ven with Mars in lagna for Clinton and Ven in Scorpio in 3rd(kama trikona) for Tewari and Moon(mind) conected to 8H of secrecy all played crucial roles for sure....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@. ..> wrote:>> Sir,> Perhaps the Venus of Bill Clinton played a crucial role.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 4 February, 2010 1:57:51 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >  > Dear ones,> in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting > > to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON > > respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it > > is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be > > interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...> 1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA> 2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.> Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> > as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> > practical demos.> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> > Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> > scandals!> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> > the 8H.> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > > Â> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > > Â> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > > to see.> > > > Â> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > Â> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Madam, If i remember her legend well, there was talk of her falling ill due to the ill effects of some paint which she had to put on in Mughle Azam. There was also talk of her having hit the bottle as well as some cogenital heart ailment. As i said i was not even born when she was already gone. Maybe you would know better.As a kid i found her face most acceptable, always smiling. Guess that did the trick. Chiranjiv Mehta+ 91 9324168001--- On Thu, 4/2/10, Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55Re: Re: House No. 8! Date: Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 6:41 PM Respected Mehta ji,I cannot recollect the circumstances of Madhubalas death. Could you enlighten me? I thought I could take the liberty of asking you since you claim you are a fan of hers.Thanks,Anita--- On Thu, 4/2/10, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:54 AM Madhubala is my first love and crush ! Though she was long gone before i was born she was my first childhood crush. Sigh ! Purana din yaad ageya.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Thu, 4/2/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyThursday, 4 February, 2010, 11:52 AM Dear Bhaskar ji,Between LEO and CAP, latter is more likely, of course. Unless we have another time. One can never be sure with these people. Actually 7.00 AM gives her Aqua lagna, but I somehow concluded from her life history sometime back that her time could've been a few minutes earlier to give her capri lagna. Hence i shared the the 6.50 AM data.Astrology has so many ways of telling! RP theory is surely very reliable in good hands! So you confirmed what I concluded earlier! Thanks.RegardsNeelam On 4 February 2010 07:18, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: And you know how I realised my mistake ? I have since long been speaking on the Ruling Planets. It was about 7.00am when I made this Prashna Kundli to check whether she was a Capri or a Leo. And wonder of wonders I had Capricorn with Venus in Lagna , which is why I checked my records to find out wheres the mistake, and then realised that my records were showing right, and its ony me who typed pm instead of am.thanks. Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> And sorry, I should have written 7.00 am and not pm, because I have 7.00am only mentioned in my records and not PM. Again for troubling you on this...> > > - In ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> >> > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri> > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in lagna!> > What is more likely?> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe> > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>,> > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Anita ji and all,> > > >> > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she> > > was> > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala> > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of> > > name> > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36.> > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and> > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in> > > 8H.> > > >> > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6. 50 hrs/Delhi> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > dear Anita ji,> > > > >> > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women...> > > > >> > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a> > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them.> > > > >> > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which> > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this.> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>,> > >> > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@>> > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji,> > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly> > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of> > > hers> > > > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I> > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If> > > you> > > > > see Elton John's video "CANDLE IN THE WIND", when Marlene Monroe makes> > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers,> > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching.> > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also> > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed "WOW' when she made> > >> > > > >> > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging> > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video..> > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world.> > > > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are> > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What> > >> > > > >> > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the> > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the> > > > > world??????? ??> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Anita> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@> > > > >> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>> > >> > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Neelam Ji,> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause> > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded.> > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be> > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we> > > need> > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely> > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!!> > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre> > > > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious> > >> > > > >> > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the> > > > > personality with predictable consequences.> > > > > > Â> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >  -Manoj> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be> > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates.> > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty.> > > > > >> > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office> > > > > recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting> > > from> > > > > a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about> > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was> > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while> > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > > > > >> > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > > > >> > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> > > cope> > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> > > help> > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> > > One> > > > > > needs guts to kill himself.> > > > > >> > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> > > > > > take such a major step in Life.> > > > > >> > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who> > > was> > > > > a> > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > > > > >> > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking> > > > > the> > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> > > > > cannot> > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> > > > > > has> > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv> > > mehta> > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> > > > > only> > > > > > > thing> > > > > > associated with 8th house.> > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'‚ VRY well. Its> > >> > > > >> > > > > effects> > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > > > > > antihero.> > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'‚ adverse> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > circumstances.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010,> > > > > > 4:12 PM> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > >> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas> > > through> > > > > > out> > > > > > > her life.> > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and> > > Jup> > > > > > in> > > > > > > 8H!!> > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > >> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for> > > and> > > > > > > expecting some practical demos.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> > > > > > and> > > > > > > scandals!> > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which> > > > > are> > > > > > > made by the 8H.> > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.> > > in>> > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'‚ not astrology.> > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian> > > Kachuaa> > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > > > > > that.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > > > > > destruction.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or> > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > >> > > > >> > > > > and which> > > > > > > nobody want to see.> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Family and> > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ÃÆ'‚> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my> > > Horoscope> > > > > > as> > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> > > > > september> > > > > > > 2009> > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of> > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > > > > > retrograde both.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > > > > > > trikonas> > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and> > > > > how> > > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> > > > > > will> > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> > > > > and> > > > > > do> > > > > > > not> > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> > > > > interested..> > > > > > .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Mehta ji,Expense of kama only.The best example is Ramakrishna paramhansa whose 3L is exalted in 12th.Hope you know his relation with his wife!!Love and regards,gopi. , chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote:>> Dear Gopiji,>  > What if kama trikona is in Vyay Bhava ( 12 th house ) ? How to interpret it ? Is it to be seen as expense of Kama or to be seen in context of bed pleasures ?>  >  > Thanks & Regards> > Chiranjiv Mehta> + 91 9324168001> > --- On Thu, 4/2/10, gopalakrishna gopi_b927 wrote:> > > gopalakrishna gopi_b927 Re: House No. 8!> > Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 6:58 PM> > >  > > > > Dear Kulbir,> Ven with Mars in lagna for Clinton and Ven in Scorpio in 3rd(kama trikona) for Tewari and Moon(mind) conected to 8H of secrecy all played crucial roles for sure....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ ..> wrote:> >> > Sir,> > Perhaps the Venus of Bill Clinton played a crucial role.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thu, 4 February, 2010 1:57:51 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > >  > > Dear ones,> > in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting > > > > to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON > > > > respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it > > > > is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be > > > > interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...> > 1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA> > 2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.> > Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> > > as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> > > practical demos.> > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> > > Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> > > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> > > the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > > > Regards> > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > > > Â> > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > > > to see.> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > > Â> > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > >> > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > retrograde both.> > > > >> > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > >> > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > >> > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > >> > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > >> > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> >> > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 thanks.You are welcome sonia ji....9L debilitated aswell.Regards,gopi. , Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote:>> Dear Gopal Krishna Ji,> > Just wanted to share something. Bill Clinton was an adopted child. Combination of eighth and ninth lord in his horoscope. Born with dasha balance of Sun twelfth lord placed in twelfth house.> > Regards,> > Sonia> > > > > ________________________________> gopalakrishna gopi_b927 > Thu, 4 February, 2010 3:27:51 PM> Re: House No. 8!> > > Dear ones,> in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting > > to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON > > respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it > > is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be > > interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...> 1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA> 2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.> Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> > as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> > practical demos.> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> > Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> > scandals!> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> > the 8H.> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > > Â> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > > Â> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > > to see.> > > > Â> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > Â> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Anita ji, Namaste. Madhubala has a 'congenital hole in the heart' and had several episodes of coughing up blood. She did come to London for surgery but at that time cardiac surgery was in its infancy and she did not get the surgery she needed. She died on 23rd Febuary 1969 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madhubala warmest regards Sheevani , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > > Respected Mehta ji, > I cannot recollect the circumstances of Madhubalas death. Could you enlighten me? I thought I could take the liberty of asking you since you claim you are a fan of hers. > Thanks, > Anita > --- On Thu, 4/2/10, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 7:54 AM >  > > > Madhubala is my first love and crush ! Though she was long gone before i was born she was my first childhood crush. > Sigh ! Purana din yaad ageya. > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > --- On Thu, 4/2/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> wrote: > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 11:52 AM > > >  > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Between LEO and CAP, latter is more likely, of course. Unless we have another time. One can never be sure with these people. Actually 7.00 AM gives her Aqua lagna, but I somehow concluded from her life history sometime back that her time could've been a few minutes earlier to give her capri lagna. Hence i shared the the 6.50 AM data. > > Astrology has so many ways of telling! RP theory is surely very reliable in good hands! So you confirmed what I concluded earlier! Thanks. > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 4 February 2010 07:18, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > >  > > > > And you know how I realised my mistake ? I have since long been speaking on the Ruling Planets. It was about 7.00am when I made this Prashna Kundli to check whether she was a Capri or a Leo. And wonder of wonders I had Capricorn with Venus in Lagna , which is why I checked my records to find out wheres the mistake, and then realised that my records were showing right, and its ony me who typed pm instead of am. > > thanks. > > > > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > And sorry, I should have written 7.00 am and not pm, because I have 7.00am only mentioned in my records and not PM. Again for troubling you on this... > > > > > > - In ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > That gives her LEO lagna with Jup-Mar-ket in lagna as against the capri > > > lagna of morning 6.50 time with ven and sat in > lagna! > > > What is more likely? > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 23:56, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe > > > > wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>, > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > > > > > > > > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she > > > > was > > > > > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala > > > > > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of > > > > name > > > > > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. > > > > > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and > > > > > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in > > > > 8H. > > > > > > > > > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6. 50 hrs/Delhi > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar > <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > dear Anita ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a > > > > > > particular star , become stars, all of them. > > > > > > > > > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which > > > > > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com> > > > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com>, > > > > > > > > > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > > > > > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly > > > > > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of > > > > hers > > > > > > long > time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I > > > > > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If > > > > you > > > > > > see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes > > > > > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, > > > > > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. > > > > > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also > > > > > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimedÃÆ'‚ " WOW'ÃÆ'‚ when she made > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging > > > > > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > > > > > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman > to be born in this world. > > > > > > Wonder what contributedÃÆ'‚ to her looks. I always wonder, there are > > > > > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARSÃÆ'‚ over night. What > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the > > > > > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the > > > > > > world??????? ?? > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > Anita > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com> > > > > <ancient_indian_ astrology%40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we > > > > need > > > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong.ÃÆ'‚ Here both are in > the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre > > > > > > of theÃÆ'‚ individual. WithÃÆ'‚ 8H dashas being in continuious > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > > > > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ -Manoj > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta > <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > > > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting > > > > from > > > > > > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > > > cope > > > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > > > help > > > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > > > One > > > > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > > > > > have to face so > much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > > > was > > > > > > a > > > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > > > mehta > > > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > > > > only > > > > > > > > thing > > > > > > > associated with 8th house. > > > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > > > > Plus Indian KachuajiÃÆ'Æ'‚ is not expressingÃÆ'Æ'‚ VRY well. Its > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > effects > > > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > > > antihero. > > > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÃÆ'Æ'‚ adverse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > > > > > > > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > > > through > > > > > > > out > > > > > > > > her life. > > > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > > > Jup > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com > > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > > > > and > > > > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > secrets > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > > > > are > > > > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > > > in> > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking andÃÆ'Æ'‚ not astrology. > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > > > Kachuaa > > > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > > > PowerÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and which > > > > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and > > > > > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'Æ'Æ'ÃÆ'¢â‚¬Å¡ÃÆ'Æ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > > > Horoscope > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > > > > september > > > > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of > > > > > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > > > > > > > placed in the > 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ...and > > > > > > how > > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do > not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > > > > > and > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > > > > interested.. > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Sir, Lalkitab associates no..3 with Ketu. Mr. Tewari was caught with 3 women. These horoscopes have to be examined in detail - great learning value. But i am still stuck at the job assigned by your goodself. i.e. Horoscope of U..G.; his calamity. RegardsKulbir Bains Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb Sent: Thu, 4 February, 2010 6:06:44 AMRe: Re: House No. 8! Sir, Mrs. Hillary Clinton came forward to rescue Mr. Clinton. Mr.Tewari got way by one line statement "Sabhi mere bache,Main sab ka baap". No.3 no doubt was a crucial factor in his case. RegardsKulbir Bains gopalakrishna <gopi_b927 >ancient_indian_ astrologyThu, 4 February, 2010 5:28:34 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Kulbir,Ven with Mars in lagna for Clinton and Ven in Scorpio in 3rd(kama trikona) for Tewari and Moon(mind) conected to 8H of secrecy all played crucial roles for sure....Love and regards,gopi.ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@. ..> wrote:>> Sir,> Perhaps the Venus of Bill Clinton played a crucial role.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> gopalakrishna gopi_b927@.. .> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 4 February, 2010 1:57:51 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >  > Dear ones,> in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting > > to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON > > respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it > > is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be > > interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...> 1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA> 2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.> Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> > as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> > practical demos.> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> > Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> > scandals!> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> > the 8H.> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > Regards> > Neelam> > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > >> > > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > > Â> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > > Â> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > > to see.> > > > Â> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > Â> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 4, 2010 Dear Kulbir ji,take it easy .No hurry.Yes we are learning.It is a process(may be unending!!)Love and regards,gopi. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote:>> Sir,> Lalkitab associates no.3 with Ketu.> Mr. Tewari was caught with 3 women.> These horoscopes have to be examined in detail - great learning value. But i am still stuck at the job assigned by your goodself. i.e. Horoscope of U.G.; his calamity.>  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb > Thu, 4 February, 2010 6:06:44 AM> Re: Re: House No. 8!> >  > Sir,> Mrs. Hillary Clinton came forward to rescue Mr. Clinton.> Mr.Tewari got way by one line statement "Sabhi mere bache,Main sab ka baap".> No.3 no doubt was a crucial factor in his case.> >  Regards> Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________> gopalakrishna gopi_b927 >> ancient_indian_ astrology> Thu, 4 February, 2010 5:28:34 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >  > Dear Kulbir,> Ven with Mars in lagna for Clinton and Ven in Scorpio in 3rd(kama trikona) for Tewari and Moon(mind) conected to 8H of secrecy all played crucial roles for sure....> Love and regards,> gopi.> ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb lalkitabkb@ ..> wrote:> >> > Sir,> > Perhaps the Venus of Bill Clinton played a crucial role.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > gopalakrishna gopi_b927@ .> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thu, 4 February, 2010 1:57:51 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > >  > > Dear ones,> > in the context of 8H and scandals of personalities in high political/ruling positions it is interesting > > > > to compare 2 persons one desi and one videsi namely N.D.TEWARI AND BILL CLINTON > > > > respectively! !! or otherwise... Both have virgo lagna with 8L in lagna while Mo is in 8th for clinton it > > > > is aspg 8thH for Tewari to begin with.I invite learned members analysis which may be > > > > interesting. ...Birth data of both is given below...> > 1.Desifirst. N.D.TEWARI. .18-10-1925@ 4.51AM;KATHGODAM ,INDIA> > 2.BILL CLINTON..19- 8-1946@8. 02AM;HOTSPRINGS, U.S.> > Both had sex scandals when in power while tewari was removed/resigned Clinton continued with taint!!..> > Love and regards,> > gopi.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly advanced, so> > > as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and expecting some> > > practical demos.> > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down graciously by> > > Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets and> > > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are made by> > > the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > > > Regards> > > Neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > >> > > >> > > > *This is rubbish talking and not astrology.*> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > > indian_kachua@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that.> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction.> > > > > Â> > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody want> > > > to see.> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > > Â> > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > >> > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a> > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009> > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > retrograde both.> > > > >> > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > >> > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonas> > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > >> > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how will> > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > >> > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will> > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > >> > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do not> > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> >> > ________________________________> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
