Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji, // why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the 8th...// Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji. ...//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture unfolds. it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, two exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The Navamsha confirms it,// What are the yogas formed in 8H? 1. 10L Mars + 5L Me 2. 7L Sun + 5L Me 3. 4L Venus + 5L Me 4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga 5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun 6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha] Have I missed anything.....then someone please continue.. blessings, Renu , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > Good. > > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to > such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he > has 4 planets placed in the 8th... > > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life.... > > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house or > its Lord is not always bad. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > , " vijay.goel " > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > Dear Manojji, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H. > > > > Thankyou, > > Best Wishes, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > personality with predictable consequences. > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >  > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > wrote: > > > > > >  > > > > > > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > >Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > cope > > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > family > > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > help > > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > One > > > >needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > must > > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order > to > > > >take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > was a > > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > >regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > >> > > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > checking the > > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > got > > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > cannot > > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. > He > > > >has > > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > >> > > > >> regards, > > > >> > > > >> Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > mehta > > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > only > > > >> thing associated with 8th house. > > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > also > > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. > Its effects > > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > >antihero. > > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > >> circumstances. > > > >> > > > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >  > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > through > > > >out > > > >> her life. > > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > Jup > > > >in > > > >> 8H!! > > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards > > > >> > Neelam > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > gmail.com> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > >> > > > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > and > > > >> expecting some practical demos. > > > >> > > > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > >> > > > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > >> > > > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > >> > > > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > >> > > > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > secrets > > > >and > > > >> scandals! > > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > are > > > >> made by the 8H. > > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > >> > > > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > >> > > > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > >> > > > > >> > All comments are welcome! > > > >> > > > > >> > Regards > > > >> > Neelam > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > in> > > > >> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >  > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > >> >  > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > Kachuaa > > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > >that. > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > >> destruction. > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > Power and which > > > >> nobody want to see. > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > of VRY > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > Indian Kachua > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > >> > > > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Dear Freinds, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > Horoscope > > > >as > > > >> a > > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > september > > > >> 2009 > > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > Lagna. Its > > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > and > > > >> > > retrograde both. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > and > > > >> trikonas > > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > ..and how > > > >> will > > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > what > > > >will > > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > >> > > > > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > and > > > >do > > > >> not > > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > interested.. > > > >. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > best wishes, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > NOW! > > > >> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Renu ji, Thanks. Every one has his own approach in solving a puzzle. I appreciate Shri KN Raos way of approaching the chart. But mines is different. Will come to it later and wait if anyone comes with more views and approaches. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > // why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the 8th...// > > Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji. > > ..//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture unfolds. it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, two exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The Navamsha confirms it,// > > What are the yogas formed in 8H? > > 1. 10L Mars + 5L Me > 2. 7L Sun + 5L Me > 3. 4L Venus + 5L Me > 4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga > 5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun > 6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha] > > Have I missed anything.....then someone please continue.. > > blessings, > > Renu > > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > Good. > > > > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to > > such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he > > has 4 planets placed in the 8th... > > > > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life.... > > > > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house or > > its Lord is not always bad. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > , " vijay.goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manojji, > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > > fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > >Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > family > > > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > One > > > > >needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > > must > > > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order > > to > > > > >take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > was a > > > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > >regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > >> > > > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > checking the > > > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > > got > > > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. > > He > > > > >has > > > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > >> > > > > >> regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > mehta > > > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > only > > > > >> thing associated with 8th house. > > > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > > also > > > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. > > Its effects > > > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > >antihero. > > > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > >> circumstances. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > through > > > > >out > > > > >> her life. > > > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > Jup > > > > >in > > > > >> 8H!! > > > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > and > > > > >> expecting some practical demos. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > secrets > > > > >and > > > > >> scandals! > > > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > are > > > > >> made by the 8H. > > > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > All comments are welcome! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > Kachuaa > > > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > >that. > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > >> destruction. > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > Power and which > > > > >> nobody want to see. > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > > of VRY > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > Indian Kachua > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Dear Freinds, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > Horoscope > > > > >as > > > > >> a > > > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > >> 2009 > > > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > Lagna. Its > > > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > > and > > > > >> > > retrograde both. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > > and > > > > >> trikonas > > > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > > ..and how > > > > >> will > > > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > > what > > > > >will > > > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and > > > > >do > > > > >> not > > > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > > >. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > best wishes, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > > NOW! > > > > >> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Renu Ji (or any one else), Could you please post Bacchan's birth data? Regards, -Manoj renunw <renunw Sent: Tue, February 2, 2010 11:25:35 AM Re: House No. 8! Dear Bhaskar ji,// why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the 8th...//Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji...//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture unfolds. it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, two exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The Navamsha confirms it,//What are the yogas formed in 8H?1. 10L Mars + 5L Me2. 7L Sun + 5L Me3. 4L Venus + 5L Me4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha]Have I missed anything.... .then someone please continue..blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > Good.> > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to> such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he> has 4 planets placed in the 8th...> > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life....> > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house or> its Lord is not always bad.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> <goyalvj@> wrote:> >> > Dear Manojji,> >> > Hare Rama Krsna,> >> > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H.> >> > Thankyou,> > Best Wishes,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > >> > > Neelam Ji,> > >> > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause> (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded.> 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be> weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need> the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely> 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!!> > >> > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral> fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious> activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the> personality with predictable consequences.> > > Â> > > Regards,> > >  -Manoj> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > >> > > Â> > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be> suicide or overdose of barbiturates.> > > Nothing has been said with certainty.> > >> > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office> recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting from> a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about> the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was> found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while> other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> wrote:> > >> > > Â> > > >> > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > > >> > > >Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > >> > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> cope> > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close> family> > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> help> > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> One> > > >needs guts to kill himself.> > > >> > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One> must> > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order> to> > > >take such a major step in Life.> > > >> > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who> was a> > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > > >> > > >regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > >> > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > > >>> > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start> checking the> > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have> got> > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> cannot> > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies.> He> > > >has> > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > > >>> > > >> regards,> > > >>> > > >> Bhaskar.> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv> mehta> > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> only> > > >> thing associated with 8th house.> > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am> also> > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well.> Its effects> > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > > >antihero.> > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > > >> circumstances.> > > >> >> > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Â> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas> through> > > >out> > > >> her life.> > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and> Jup> > > >in> > > >> 8H!!> > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards> > > >> > Neelam> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> gmail.com>> > > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> > Dear All,> > > >> >> > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for> and> > > >> expecting some practical demos.> > > >> >> > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > >> >> > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > >> >> > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > >> >> > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > >> >> > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of> secrets> > > >and> > > >> scandals!> > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which> are> > > >> made by the 8H.> > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > >> >> > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > >> >> > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > >> >> > > >> > All comments are welcome!> > > >> >> > > >> > Regards> > > >> > Neelam> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.> in>> > > >> wrote:> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Â> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > >> > Â> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian> Kachuaa> > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > >> > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > > >that.> > > >> > > ÂÂ> > > >> >> > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > >> destruction.> > > >> > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or> Power and which> > > >> nobody want to see.> > > >> > > ÂÂ> > > >> >> > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification> of VRY> > > >> > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> >> > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > ÂÂ> > > >> >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my> Horoscope> > > >as> > > >> a> > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> september> > > >> 2009> > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my> Lagna. Its> > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated> and> > > >> > > retrograde both.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras> and> > > >> trikonas> > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here> ..and how> > > >> will> > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me> what> > > >will> > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > >> > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> and> > > >do> > > >> not> > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> interested..> > > >.> > > >> > >> > > >> > > best wishes,> > > >> > >> > > >> > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it> NOW!> > > >> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > >> >> > > >>> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Sonia ji,I understand what you mean. We do focus on the houses where planets are placed for the Parivartan. Even in IG's chart we talk about the three exchanges. But we cannot forget that Jup-ven exchange though activates the 6-11 houses, but it does carry the significations of a kendra-kona lordship as Jup is also 9L and Venus is also 4L. Thats how I look at it! Also MT signs gain more importance as the results finally are of the lordships. RegardsNeelamOn 2 February 2010 23:34, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta wrote:  Dear Neelam Ji.When we started this subject in our class, focus was mainly on the lords exchanging houses. Second lordship does modify the results, even the planets associated with the exchanging planets modify the results. But exchange, between lagna and eighth house lord will be the proper when they have exchange places.This is exchange between lagna and seventh lord. Regards,Sonia neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Tue, 2 February, 2010 11:27:18 PMRe: Re: House No. 8!  Sonia ji, it will also be called an exchange of lagna lord and 8L. That is why I talked about the other lordship! RegardsNeelamOn 2 February 2010 23:11, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ > wrote:  Neelam Ji.Theres a slight variation. In Indira Gandhis chart, exchange is between lagna and seventh lord, not eighth lord. So about the public image yes, saturn gave her good results. having lorship of trinal and 6,8,12 house simultaneoulsy is diff from exchange between a trinal and 6,8,12th lord. Regards,Sonia neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> To: ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 11:03:39 PM Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!  Dear Sonia ji,What you say is right theoretically, but the actual results varies from person to person and chart to chart! It is difficult to generalise a parivartan.Look at the exchange of Moon and sat (1/8) in Indira Gandhi's chart. Which house has suffered? Saturn's dasha gave her the best period of name and fame. But she also suffered at personal level. That brings us to the other lordship of the planets concerned. Saturn is also the kendra lord and gives her public image! For leo and Aqu natives, Jup and mer get the lordship of both 5/8 houses. it must look after both the houses. Any exchange with LL or 9L would have a different meaning here. I think each lagna would have to be handled differently. RegardsNeelamOn 2 February 2010 21:45, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ > wrote:  Sheevani jiNamaskar. Its a nice question, very close to me, because currently we are working on this subject only. Shivani Ji in exchange between trinal house and 8th house, results of trinal house/lord will suffer more. for example, if theres an exchange between fifth and eighth lord in the birth chart it can have many meanings. problems related to progeny, breaks/changes in education, research oriented education, issues related to profession etcBut birth chart alone cannot pinpoint exaclty which result of a house will improve or which result will get afflicted unless reference is made to varga kundli, karaka and strength of that bhava lord is assessed by other various means. Regards,Sonia Sheevani <sheevani147@ .co. uk> ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 9:30:05 PM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!  Dear Sonia ji Namaste.. What if there is parivatana yoga (exchange) between a trinal house and 8th house?.. Do both houses suffer or are they improved? It is termed a Dainya parivatan, warmest regards Sheevani ancient_indian_ astrology, Sonia Mehdiratta <sonia_mehdiratta@ ...> wrote: > > Chiranjiv Ji, > > 8th lord coming to trinal houses will add auspiciousness to eighth house/lord but will afflict the results of ninth house. > > Regards, > > Sonia > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, 2 February, 2010 8:55:49 PM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > Just a small aside - > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house is considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 planets in 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > wrote: > > > >Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ > > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > >Neelam Ji, > > > >She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > >9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences. > > > >Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > >Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > >//Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > >Regards > >Neelam > > > > > >On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > > > > >> > >>Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > >> > >>Only the strong can commit suicides. > >> > >>They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > >>with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > >>members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > >>them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > >>needs guts to kill himself. > >> > >>Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > >>have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > >>take such a major step in Life. > >> > >>I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > >>darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > >>romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > >> > >>regards/Bhaskar. > >> > >>ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > >> > >><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > >>> > >>> > >>> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > >>> > >>> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > >>> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > >>> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > >>> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > >>has > >>> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > >>> > >>> regards, > >>> > >>> Bhaskar. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > >>> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Marilyn Monroe ? > >>> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like > >> that is the only > >>> thing associated with 8th house. > >>> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > >>> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > >>> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > >>> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > >>antihero. > >>> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > >>> circumstances. > >>> > > >>> > Chiranjiv Mehta > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > >>> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >>> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ > >> . com > >>> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >  > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > >>out > >>> her life. > >>> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > >>in > >>> 8H!! > >>> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > >>> > > >>> > Regards > >>> > Neelam > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > Dear All, > >>> > > >>> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > >>> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > >>> expecting some practical demos. > >>> > > >>> > I am giving an > >> interesting case here and the data is authentic. > >>> > > >>> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > >>> > > >>> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > >>> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > >>> > > >>> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > >>> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > >>> > > >>> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > >>and > >>> scandals! > >>> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > >>> made by the 8H. > >>> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > >>> > > >>> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > >>> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > >>> > > >>> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > >>> > > >>> > All comments are welcome! > >>> > > >>> > > >> Regards > >>> > Neelam > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > >>> wrote: > >>> > > >>> > > >>> >  > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > >>> >  > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > >>> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > >>that. > >>> > >  > >>> > > >>> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > >>> destruction. > >>> > >  > >>> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which > >>> nobody want > >> to see. > >>> > >  > >>> > > >>> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > >>> > >  > >>> > > Indian Kachua > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > >>> > > >>> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >>> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > >>> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > >  > >>> > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > Dear Freinds, > >>> > > > >>> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > >>as > >>> a > >>> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently > >> since september > >>> 2009 > >>> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > >>> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > >>> > > retrograde both. > >>> > > > >>> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > >>> > > > >>> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > >>> trikonas > >>> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > >>> > > > >>> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > >>> will > >>> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > >>> > > > >>> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > >>will > >>> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > >>> > > > >>> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > >>do > >>> not > >>> > > begin playing > >> any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > >>. > >>> > > > >>> > > best wishes, > >>> > > > >>> > > Bhaskar. > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > >>> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > >>> > > >>> > >> > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 11th October 1942 4.00pm Allahabad. regards/Bhaskar. , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Renu Ji (or any one else), > > Could you please post Bacchan's birth data? >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > renunw renunw > > Tue, February 2, 2010 11:25:35 AM > Re: House No. 8! > >  > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > // why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the 8th...// > > Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji. > > ..//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture unfolds. it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, two exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The Navamsha confirms it,// > > What are the yogas formed in 8H? > > 1. 10L Mars + 5L Me > 2. 7L Sun + 5L Me > 3. 4L Venus + 5L Me > 4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga > 5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun > 6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha] > > Have I missed anything.... .then someone please continue.. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > Good. > > > > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to > > such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he > > has 4 planets placed in the 8th... > > > > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life.... > > > > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house or > > its Lord is not always bad. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manojji, > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > > fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > >Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > family > > > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > One > > > > >needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > > must > > > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order > > to > > > > >take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > was a > > > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > >regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > >> > > > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > checking the > > > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > > got > > > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. > > He > > > > >has > > > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > >> > > > > >> regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > mehta > > > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > only > > > > >> thing associated with 8th house. > > > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > > also > > > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. > > Its effects > > > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > >antihero. > > > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > >> circumstances. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > through > > > > >out > > > > >> her life. > > > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > Jup > > > > >in > > > > >> 8H!! > > > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > and > > > > >> expecting some practical demos. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > secrets > > > > >and > > > > >> scandals! > > > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > are > > > > >> made by the 8H. > > > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > All comments are welcome! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > Kachuaa > > > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > >that. > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > >> destruction. > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > PowerÃÆ'‚ and which > > > > >> nobody want to see. > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > > of VRY > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > Indian Kachua > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Dear Freinds, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > Horoscope > > > > >as > > > > >> a > > > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > >> 2009 > > > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > Lagna. Its > > > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > > and > > > > >> > > retrograde both. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > > and > > > > >> trikonas > > > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > > ..and how > > > > >> will > > > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > > what > > > > >will > > > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and > > > > >do > > > > >> not > > > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > > >. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > best wishes, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > > NOW! > > > > >> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Neelam ji, I am reminded of a post of yours in the FB! //Thoughts are boomerangs... returning with precision to their source.... Choose wisely which ones you throw!! :-)// blessings, Renu , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Goel ji, I am sorry your comments are not in good taste. Please refrain from > making derogatory remarks about anyone. > Everyone is unmoderated, so please be responsible for your own statements, > you're likely to get it back. > > We can have healthy discussions without passing personal remarks and > judgements. Kindly check the tone and language used for other learned > members. > We can agree to disagree with dignity. > > Bhaskar ji, Kulbir ji, let us close the controversy and move ahead. > > Moderator > > > > > On 2 February 2010 23:09, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such > > references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > > > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > > > Please explain this part.// > > > > //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > > ...?// > > > > > > > > I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from lalkitab > > groups. > > > > Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward by me, > > their last resort is my horoscope. > > > > > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > > > *To:* > > *Sent:* Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness > > my dear !. // > > > > Please do not harbor any concern over this... My consciousness is > > overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my duty in this material > > Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias towards either the Sun or > > Saturn...or any other planet. > > > > // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire > > to > > > live life at all condition.// > > > > My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, rather > > defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken of as weak. > > > > // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // > > > > I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my chart... > > > > But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...? > > > > Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat Meat , > > and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and highly > > irrelevant.. . > > > > I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been > > transparent about it... > > > > What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a saint ? > > > > But who says that I am a sinner.... ? > > > > This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such > > references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > > > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > > > Please explain this part. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > // > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > // > > > > > > I totally dis-agree with it. > > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in > > > the chart. > > > > > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > needs guts to kill himself.// > > > > > > This explanation is only a joke. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > > > life energy of Sun within. > > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to > > > live life at all condition. > > > > > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness > > > my dear !. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - > > > > > > Lal-Kitab says > > > " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > > > > > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > I have just put my thought > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was > > > a > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > > the > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > cannot > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > > has > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > only > > > > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > > effects > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > antihero. > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > > > out > > > > > her life. > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > > > > in > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1..6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > > and > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > are > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > that. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > > > which > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of > > > VRY > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > september > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. > > > Its > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > > > how > > > > > will > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > > will > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > > and > > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > interested.. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Thanks Manoj ji...I really should get hold of the book " Light of Life " .....it sounds interesting:) blessings, Renu , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Renu Ji, > > Neelam Ji is absolutely right. Also there are some very powerful but estoreric Sanyasa Yogas in Yogananda's chart. If you get a chance to read " Light on Life " by Hart De Fouw, he beautifully contrasts the charts of Yogananda and infact Marlyn Monroe and explains why 8H takes such different meanings in these charts. Only these Sanyasa Yoga's explain the Great Heights reached by the Great Yogi. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > > Tue, February 2, 2010 9:08:40 AM > Re: Re: House No. 8! > >  > Dear Renu ji, > > In Yogananda's chart, Jupiter and Mars are in Pisces! Own house for Jupiter and friends house for Mars. And you know what Pisces means, right! Most of the planets in satwik signs! Compare that with MM and you'll see the difference! He treaded on a different path altogether! > > Regards > Neelam > > > > > On 2 February 2010 21:15, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: > >  > > > >Dear Manoj ji, > > > >Nice to see you active again:) > > > >// Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > >9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual./ / > > > >In Paramahamsa Yogananda's natal chart, his 9L is in 8H. 5L and 9L are in 8H. > > > >But he achieved so much above a normal human being and only a person with a good deal of past life merits could have reached that status. So how can we justify the above mentioned by you? Is it because his LL Sun & 2/11L Mercury is in the 5H, giving strength to 5H? > > > >Hope you will explain... > > > >blessings, > > > >Renu > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote: > >> > >> Neelam Ji, > >> > >> She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > >> > >> 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences. > > > >>  > >> Regards, > >>  -Manoj > >>  > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ____________ _________ _________ __ > >> neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ ...> > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology > >> Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > >> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >> > >>  > > > >> Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > >> Nothing has been said with certainty. > >> > >> //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > >> > >> Regards > >> Neelam > >> > >> > >> On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > >> > >>  > > > >> > > >> >Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > >> > > >> >Only the strong can commit suicides. > >> > > >> >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > >> >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > >> >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > >> >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > >> >needs guts to kill himself. > >> > > >> >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > >> >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > >> >take such a major step in Life. > >> > > >> >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > >> >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > >> >romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > >> > > >> >regards/Bhaskar. > >> > > >> >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > >> > > >> ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > >> >> > >> >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > >> >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > >> >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > >> >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > >> >has > >> >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > >> >> > >> >> regards, > >> >> > >> >> Bhaskar. > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > >> >> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Marilyn Monroe ? > >> >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only > >> >> thing associated with 8th house. > >> >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > >> >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > >> >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > > > >> >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > >> >antihero. > >> >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > >> >> circumstances. > >> >> > > >> >> > Chiranjiv Mehta > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > >> >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > >> >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> >  > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > >> >out > >> >> her life. > >> >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > >> >in > >> >> 8H!! > >> >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > Neelam > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > Dear All, > >> >> > > >> >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > >> >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > >> >> expecting some practical demos. > >> >> > > >> >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > >> >> > > >> >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > >> >> > > >> >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > >> >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > >> >> > > >> >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > >> >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > >> >> > > >> >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > >> >and > >> >> scandals! > >> >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > >> >> made by the 8H. > >> >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > >> >> > > >> >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > >> >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > >> >> > > >> >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > >> >> > > >> >> > All comments are welcome! > >> >> > > >> >> > Regards > >> >> > Neelam > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > >> >> wrote: > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> >  > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > >> >> >  > >> >> > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > >> >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > >> >that. > >> >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > >> >> destruction. > >> >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > >> >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or PowerÃÆ'‚ and which > >> >> nobody want to see. > >> >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > >> >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > >> >> > > Indian Kachua > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > >> >> > > >> >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >> >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > >> >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Dear Freinds, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > >> >as > >> >> a > >> >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > >> >> 2009 > >> >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > >> >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > >> >> > > retrograde both. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > >> >> trikonas > >> >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > >> >> will > >> >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > >> >will > >> >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > >> >> > > > >> >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > >> >do > >> >> not > >> >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > >> >. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > best wishes, > >> >> > > > >> >> > > Bhaskar. > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > >> >> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Moderator, Let us end it on a light note. Osho says " I have heard about a Christian missionary who was continually repeating this statement of Jesus in his sermons: â€Give the other cheek, even if you have been slapped.†One man stood up and slapped the missionary. This had never happened before, and he has been preaching his whole life. A discussion followed, but this did not help; he was full of anger, enraged. But in front of the crowd he had to prove that he followed what he preached. So he gave his other cheek, reluctantly, hoping that this idiot did not hit him again. But that man was also not an ordinary man – he slapped him on the other cheek even harder! Then, immediately there was a tremendous change in the missionary; he jumped on the man and started hitting him. The man said, â€What are you doing? It is against your teaching!†The missionary said, â€Forget all about teaching.. because it was only about the other cheek. After the other cheek there is no teaching. I am free now! I follow Jesus Christ up to the point of his words – I don’t have a third cheek!†Gautam Buddha made a statement which shows the futility of such teachings. He said, â€Forgive at least seven times.†Seven times are more than enough, and a man who can forgive seven times would have gone through a transformation; otherwise how can one forgive seven times? But a man stood up and he asked, â€What about the eighth time? I want to be sure. Seven times I will manage, but what about the eighth time? Am I free?†Gautam Buddha could not believe his own ears, could not believe his own eyes. He said, â€You have completely misunderstood me. Forgive me, I will make it seventy-seven times.†The man said, â€It makes no difference. I’m a wrestler. I can even tolerate seventy-seven times. What about after that? You can give me any number, but the question remains the same – what after that?†If the question remains, then the man has not given forgiveness even at the first time. He is simply following a ritual, and collecting more and more anger, more and more rage for the moment when all the times that Buddha has said to be forgiving are finished – then he is going to see to this fellow. Seeing the situation Buddha said, â€I take my statement back. I will not say seven times, I will not say seventy-seven times. I simply say, ‘Forgive.’ I was wrong to give you numbers. I don’t give you any numbers; just forgive.†RegardsKulbir Bains neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Sent: Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:50:36 AMRe: Re: House No. 8! Goel ji, I am sorry your comments are not in good taste. Please refrain from making derogatory remarks about anyone.Everyone is unmoderated, so please be responsible for your own statements, you're likely to get it back. We can have healthy discussions without passing personal remarks and judgements. Kindly check the tone and language used for other learned members. We can agree to disagree with dignity. Bhaskar ji, Kulbir ji, let us close the controversy and move ahead.Moderator On 2 February 2010 23:09, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji, //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? Please explain this part.// //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...?// I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from lalkitab groups. Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward by me, their last resort is my horoscope. RegardsKulbir Bains Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Goel ji, // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. // Please do not harbor any concern over this... My consciousness is overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my duty in this material Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias towards either the Sun or Saturn...or any other planet. // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to> live life at all condition.// My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, rather defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken of as weak. // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> meat. It destroys children.> Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my chart... But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...? Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat Meat , and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and highly irrelevant.. . I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been transparent about it... What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a saint ? But who says that I am a sinner..... ? This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? Please explain this part. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskerji,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > //> Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> //> > I totally dis-agree with it.> This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.> This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in> the chart.> > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.//> > This explanation is only a joke.> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has> life energy of Sun within.> Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to> live life at all condition.> > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness> my dear !.> > ------------ --------- --------- -> > Lal-Kitab says> "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka> hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"> > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> meat. It destroys children.> Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.> > ------------ --------- ---------> > I have just put my thought > > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> >> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> >> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> > needs guts to kill himself.> >> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> > take such a major step in Life.> >> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was> a> > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > >> > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking> the> > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> cannot> > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> > has> > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> only> > > thing associated with 8th house.> > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its> effects> > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > antihero.> > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > > circumstances..> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> > out> > > her life.> > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> > in> > > 8H!!> > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > > expecting some practical demos.> > > >> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > >> > > > BT: 1...6.1926/9. 30 hrs/ LA, California> > > >> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > >> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > >> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> > and> > > scandals!> > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which> are> > > made by the 8H.> > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > >> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > >> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > >> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > that.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > destruction.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and> which> > > nobody want to see.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of> VRY> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > >> > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> > as> > > a> > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> september> > > 2009> > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna.> Its> > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > retrograde both.> > > > >> > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > >> > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > > trikonas> > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > >> > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and> how> > > will> > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > >> > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> > will> > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > >> > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> and> > do> > > not> > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> interested..> > .> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > >> > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Here it is Manoj ji...hope this is correct. Amitabh Bacchan Natal Chart October 11, 1942 Time: 15:00:00 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 81 E 51' 00 " , 25 N 27' 00 " Allahabad, India blessings, Renu , Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote: > > Dear Renu Ji (or any one else), > > Could you please post Bacchan's birth data? >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  > > > > > ________________________________ > renunw <renunw > > Tue, February 2, 2010 11:25:35 AM > Re: House No. 8! > >  > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > // why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the 8th...// > > Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji. > > ..//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture unfolds. it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, two exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The Navamsha confirms it,// > > What are the yogas formed in 8H? > > 1. 10L Mars + 5L Me > 2. 7L Sun + 5L Me > 3. 4L Venus + 5L Me > 4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga > 5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun > 6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha] > > Have I missed anything.... .then someone please continue.. > > blessings, > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > Good. > > > > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to > > such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though he > > has 4 planets placed in the 8th... > > > > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life.... > > > > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house or > > its Lord is not always bad. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Manojji, > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H. > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Best Wishes, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran > > chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > > fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > >  > > > > Regards, > > > >  -Manoj > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > >  > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > >Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > family > > > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > One > > > > >needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > > must > > > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order > > to > > > > >take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > was a > > > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > >regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > >> > > > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > checking the > > > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > > got > > > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. > > He > > > > >has > > > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > >> > > > > >> regards, > > > > >> > > > > >> Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > mehta > > > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > only > > > > >> thing associated with 8th house. > > > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > > also > > > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. > > Its effects > > > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > >antihero. > > > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > >> circumstances. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > through > > > > >out > > > > >> her life. > > > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > Jup > > > > >in > > > > >> 8H!! > > > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > gmail.com> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > and > > > > >> expecting some practical demos. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > secrets > > > > >and > > > > >> scandals! > > > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > are > > > > >> made by the 8H. > > > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > All comments are welcome! > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >> >  > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > Kachuaa > > > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > >that. > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > >> destruction. > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > PowerÃÆ'‚ and which > > > > >> nobody want to see. > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > > of VRY > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > Indian Kachua > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Dear Freinds, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > Horoscope > > > > >as > > > > >> a > > > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > >> 2009 > > > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > Lagna. Its > > > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > > and > > > > >> > > retrograde both. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > > and > > > > >> trikonas > > > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > > ..and how > > > > >> will > > > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > > what > > > > >will > > > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and > > > > >do > > > > >> not > > > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > > >. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > best wishes, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > > NOW! > > > > >> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Sure, Bhaskar ji...I wanted to learn yours or others views. Hence posted what Sri KN Rao has mentioned. blessings, Renu , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Renu ji, > > Thanks. Every one has his own approach in solving a puzzle. > > I appreciate Shri KN Raos way of approaching the chart. > > But mines is different. Will come to it later and wait if anyone comes > with more views and approaches. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " renunw " <renunw@> > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > // why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also achieve > good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the 8th...// > > > > Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji. > > > > ..//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture unfolds. > it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the > innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, two > exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these > four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total > picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The > Navamsha confirms it,// > > > > What are the yogas formed in 8H? > > > > 1. 10L Mars + 5L Me > > 2. 7L Sun + 5L Me > > 3. 4L Venus + 5L Me > > 4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga > > 5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun > > 6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha] > > > > Have I missed anything.....then someone please continue.. > > > > blessings, > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise > to > > > such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though > he > > > has 4 planets placed in the 8th... > > > > > > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life.... > > > > > > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house > or > > > its Lord is not always bad. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " vijay.goel " > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Manojji, > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > > > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H. > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > > chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the > cause > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is > dreaded. > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we > need > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: > namely > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > > > fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > > >  > > > > > Regards, > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could > be > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting > from > > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated > about > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, > while > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > in> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > > >Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able > to > > > cope > > > > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > > family > > > > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society > to > > > help > > > > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit > suicide. > > > One > > > > > >needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. > One > > > must > > > > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in > order > > > to > > > > > >take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe > who > > > was a > > > > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them > to > > > > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > > >regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > > checking the > > > > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them > have > > > got > > > > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. > One > > > cannot > > > > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in > movies. > > > He > > > > > >has > > > > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> regards, > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Bhaskar. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > > mehta > > > > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is > the > > > only > > > > > >> thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i > am > > > also > > > > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY > well. > > > Its effects > > > > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > >antihero. > > > > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in > adverse > > > > > >> circumstances. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > > through > > > > > >out > > > > > >> her life. > > > > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup > and > > > Jup > > > > > >in > > > > > >> 8H!! > > > > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > gmail.com> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are > fairly > > > > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling > for > > > and > > > > > >> expecting some practical demos. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > authentic. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed > down > > > > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > > secrets > > > > > >and > > > > > >> scandals! > > > > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > which > > > are > > > > > >> made by the 8H. > > > > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > All comments are welcome! > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > .co. > > > in> > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > >> >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > > Kachuaa > > > > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will > see > > > > > >that. > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > >> destruction. > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > > Power and which > > > > > >> nobody want to see. > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of > frutification > > > of VRY > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > Indian Kachua > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > > Horoscope > > > > > >as > > > > > >> a > > > > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > september > > > > > >> 2009 > > > > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > > Lagna. Its > > > > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is > debilitated > > > and > > > > > >> > > retrograde both. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in > kendras > > > and > > > > > >> trikonas > > > > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > > > ..and how > > > > > >> will > > > > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > > > what > > > > > >will > > > > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > now... > > > and > > > > > >do > > > > > >> not > > > > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > interested.. > > > > > >. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > best wishes, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Renu ji,It is really sad and painful to see people hurt fellow beings for no reason!RegardsNeelamOn 3 February 2010 00:10, renunw <renunw wrote: Dear Neelam ji, I am reminded of a post of yours in the FB! //Thoughts are boomerangs... returning with precision to their source.... Choose wisely which ones you throw!! :-)// blessings, Renu , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Goel ji, I am sorry your comments are not in good taste. Please refrain from > making derogatory remarks about anyone. > Everyone is unmoderated, so please be responsible for your own statements, > you're likely to get it back. > > We can have healthy discussions without passing personal remarks and > judgements. Kindly check the tone and language used for other learned > members. > We can agree to disagree with dignity. > > Bhaskar ji, Kulbir ji, let us close the controversy and move ahead. > > Moderator > > > > > On 2 February 2010 23:09, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such > > references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > > > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > > > Please explain this part.// > > > > //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > > ...?// > > > > > > > > I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from lalkitab > > groups. > > > > Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward by me, > > their last resort is my horoscope. > > > > > > Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > > > > *To:* > > *Sent:* Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness > > my dear !. // > > > > Please do not harbor any concern over this... My consciousness is > > overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my duty in this material > > Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias towards either the Sun or > > Saturn...or any other planet. > > > > // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire > > to > > > live life at all condition.// > > > > My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, rather > > defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken of as weak. > > > > // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // > > > > I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my chart... > > > > But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...? > > > > Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat Meat , > > and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and highly > > irrelevant.. . > > > > I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been > > transparent about it... > > > > What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a saint ? > > > > But who says that I am a sinner.... ? > > > > This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such > > references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > > > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > > > Please explain this part. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > // > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > // > > > > > > I totally dis-agree with it. > > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in > > > the chart. > > > > > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > needs guts to kill himself.// > > > > > > This explanation is only a joke. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > > > life energy of Sun within. > > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to > > > live life at all condition. > > > > > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness > > > my dear !. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - > > > > > > Lal-Kitab says > > > " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > > > > > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > I have just put my thought > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was > > > a > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > > the > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > cannot > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > > has > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > only > > > > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > > effects > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > antihero. > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > > > out > > > > > her life. > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > > > > in > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1..6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > > and > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > are > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > that. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > > > which > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of > > > VRY > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > september > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. > > > Its > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > > > how > > > > > will > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > > will > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > > and > > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > interested.. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Kulbir ji,Thanks for the LIGHT note.//....just forgive//If we could learn to apply these two words, we'd be much LIGHTER indeed!!RegardsNeelam On 3 February 2010 00:20, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: Dear Moderator, Let us end it on a light note. Osho says " I have heard about a Christian missionary who was continually repeating this statement of Jesus in his sermons: ”Give the other cheek, even if you have been slapped.” One man stood up and slapped the missionary. This had never happened before, and he has been preaching his whole life. A discussion followed, but this did not help; he was full of anger, enraged. But in front of the crowd he had to prove that he followed what he preached. So he gave his other cheek, reluctantly, hoping that this idiot did not hit him again. But that man was also not an ordinary man – he slapped him on the other cheek even harder! Then, immediately there was a tremendous change in the missionary; he jumped on the man and started hitting him. The man said, ”What are you doing? It is against your teaching!” The missionary said, ”Forget all about teaching.. because it was only about the other cheek. After the other cheek there is no teaching. I am free now! I follow Jesus Christ up to the point of his words – I don’t have a third cheek!” Gautam Buddha made a statement which shows the futility of such teachings. He said, ”Forgive at least seven times.” Seven times are more than enough, and a man who can forgive seven times would have gone through a transformation; otherwise how can one forgive seven times? But a man stood up and he asked, ”What about the eighth time? I want to be sure. Seven times I will manage, but what about the eighth time? Am I free?” Gautam Buddha could not believe his own ears, could not believe his own eyes. He said, ”You have completely misunderstood me. Forgive me, I will make it seventy-seven times.” The man said, ”It makes no difference. I’m a wrestler. I can even tolerate seventy-seven times. What about after that? You can give me any number, but the question remains the same – what after that?” If the question remains, then the man has not given forgiveness even at the first time. He is simply following a ritual, and collecting more and more anger, more and more rage for the moment when all the times that Buddha has said to be forgiving are finished – then he is going to see to this fellow. Seeing the situation Buddha said, ”I take my statement back. I will not say seven times, I will not say seventy-seven times. I simply say, ‘Forgive.’ I was wrong to give you numbers. I don’t give you any numbers; just forgive.” RegardsKulbir Bains neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:50:36 AMRe: Re: House No. 8! Goel ji, I am sorry your comments are not in good taste. Please refrain from making derogatory remarks about anyone.Everyone is unmoderated, so please be responsible for your own statements, you're likely to get it back. We can have healthy discussions without passing personal remarks and judgements. Kindly check the tone and language used for other learned members. We can agree to disagree with dignity. Bhaskar ji, Kulbir ji, let us close the controversy and move ahead. Moderator On 2 February 2010 23:09, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote: Dear Bhaskar ji, //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? Please explain this part.// //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...?// I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from lalkitab groups. Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward by me, their last resort is my horoscope. RegardsKulbir Bains Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Goel ji, // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. // Please do not harbor any concern over this... My consciousness is overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my duty in this material Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias towards either the Sun or Saturn...or any other planet. // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to> live life at all condition.// My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, rather defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken of as weak. // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> meat. It destroys children.> Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my chart... But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...? Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat Meat , and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and highly irrelevant.. . I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been transparent about it... What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a saint ? But who says that I am a sinner..... ? This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? Please explain this part. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskerji,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > //> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> //> > I totally dis-agree with it.> This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.> This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in > the chart.> > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.//> > This explanation is only a joke.> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has> life energy of Sun within.> Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to > live life at all condition.> > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness> my dear !.> > ------------ --------- --------- -> > Lal-Kitab says > " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka> hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> meat. It destroys children. > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > ------------ --------- ---------> > I have just put my thought > > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> >> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> >> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > needs guts to kill himself.> >> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> > take such a major step in Life.> >> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was> a> > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > >> > >> > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > >> > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking> the> > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> cannot> > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> > has> > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > only> > > thing associated with 8th house.> > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its> effects> > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > antihero.> > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > > circumstances..> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > >> > > >> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > out> > > her life.> > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> > in> > > 8H!!> > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > > expecting some practical demos.> > > >> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > >> > > > BT: 1...6.1926/9. 30 hrs/ LA, California > > > >> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > >> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > >> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> > and> > > scandals!> > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > are> > > made by the 8H.> > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > >> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > >> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > >> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > wrote: > > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > that.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > destruction. > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and> which> > > nobody want to see.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of> VRY> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > >> > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> > as> > > a> > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > september> > > 2009> > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna.> Its> > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > retrograde both.> > > > >> > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > >> > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > trikonas> > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > >> > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > how> > > will> > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > >> > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > will> > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > >> > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> and> > do > > > not> > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> interested..> > .> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > > > > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Well, we are human Neelam ji.....what else can we expect...life is a continuous learning process....hope we learn by each and every mistake of ours. I like your boomerang simili:) blessings, Renu , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Renu ji, > > It is really sad and painful to see people hurt fellow beings for no reason! > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 3 February 2010 00:10, renunw <renunw wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > I am reminded of a post of yours in the FB! > > > > //Thoughts are boomerangs... returning with precision to their source.... > > Choose wisely which ones you throw!! :-)// > > > > blessings, > > > > Renu > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > Goel ji, I am sorry your comments are not in good taste. Please refrain > > from > > > making derogatory remarks about anyone. > > > Everyone is unmoderated, so please be responsible for your own > > statements, > > > you're likely to get it back. > > > > > > We can have healthy discussions without passing personal remarks and > > > judgements. Kindly check the tone and language used for other learned > > > members. > > > We can agree to disagree with dignity. > > > > > > Bhaskar ji, Kulbir ji, let us close the controversy and move ahead. > > > > > > Moderator > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 23:09, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate > > such > > > > references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > > > > > > > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > > > > > > > Please explain this part.// > > > > > > > > //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > > > > ...?// > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from > > lalkitab > > > > groups. > > > > > > > > Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward by me, > > > > their last resort is my horoscope. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > ** Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > > > > > > *To:* <%40.\ com> > > > > > > *Sent:* Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM > > > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Goel ji, > > > > > > > > // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your > > consciousness > > > > my dear !. // > > > > > > > > Please do not harbor any concern over this... My consciousness is > > > > overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my duty in this material > > > > Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias towards either the Sun > > or > > > > Saturn...or any other planet. > > > > > > > > // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they > > inspire > > > > to > > > > > live life at all condition.// > > > > > > > > My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, rather > > > > defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken of as > > weak. > > > > > > > > // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // > > > > > > > > I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my chart... > > > > > > > > But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > > ...? > > > > > > > > Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat > > Meat , > > > > and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and > > highly > > > > irrelevant.. . > > > > > > > > I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been > > > > transparent about it... > > > > > > > > What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a saint > > ? > > > > > > > > But who says that I am a sinner.... ? > > > > > > > > This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such > > > > references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > > > > > > > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > > > > > > > Please explain this part. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > <goyalvj@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > > > > > // > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > // > > > > > > > > > > I totally dis-agree with it. > > > > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > > > > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun > > in > > > > > the chart. > > > > > > > > > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > One > > > > > needs guts to kill himself.// > > > > > > > > > > This explanation is only a joke. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > > > > > life energy of Sun within. > > > > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire > > to > > > > > live life at all condition. > > > > > > > > > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your > > consciousness > > > > > my dear !. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - > > > > > > > > > > Lal-Kitab says > > > > > " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > > > > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > > > > > > > > > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > > > > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > > > > > I have just put my thought > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > family > > > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > > One > > > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > > must > > > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order > > to > > > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > > was > > > > > a > > > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > checking > > > > > the > > > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > > got > > > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > > > cannot > > > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. > > He > > > > > > has > > > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > > mehta > > > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > > > only > > > > > > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > > also > > > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > > > > effects > > > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > > > antihero. > > > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > through > > > > > > out > > > > > > > her life. > > > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > > Jup > > > > > > in > > > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > gmail.com> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > > and > > > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1..6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > secrets > > > > > > and > > > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > > > > are > > > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > Kachuaa > > > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > > > > that. > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > > > > > which > > > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > > of > > > > > VRY > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > Horoscope > > > > > > as > > > > > > > a > > > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > > > september > > > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > Lagna. > > > > > Its > > > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > > and > > > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > > and > > > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > > ..and > > > > > how > > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > > what > > > > > > will > > > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > > > > and > > > > > > do > > > > > > > not > > > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > > > interested.. > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 //If we practice and eye for an eye and a tooth for a tooth, soon the whole world will be blind and toothless.// -Mahatma Gandhi. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Moderator, > Let us end it on a light note. > Osho says " I have heard about a Christian missionary who was continually repeating this statement of Jesus > in his sermons: â€Give the other cheek, even if you have been slapped.†One man stood up and > slapped the missionary. This had never happened before, and he has been preaching his whole life. > A discussion followed, but this did not help; he was full of anger, enraged. But in front of the crowd > he had to prove that he followed what he preached. So he gave his other cheek, reluctantly, hoping > that this idiot did not hit him again. But that man was also not an ordinary man †" he slapped him on > the other cheek even harder! > Then, immediately there was a tremendous change in the missionary; he jumped on the man and > started hitting him. The man said, â€What are you doing? It is against your teaching!†The missionary > said, â€Forget all about teaching. because it was only about the other cheek. After the other cheek > there is no teaching. I am free now! I follow Jesus Christ up to the point of his words †" I don’t have > a third cheek!†> Gautam Buddha made a statement which shows the futility of such teachings. He said, â€Forgive > at least seven times.†Seven times are more than enough, and a man who can forgive seven times > would have gone through a transformation; otherwise how can one forgive seven times? But a man > stood up and he asked, â€What about the eighth time? I want to be sure. Seven times I will manage, > but what about the eighth time? Am I free?†> Gautam Buddha could not believe his own ears, could not believe his own eyes. He said, â€You have > completely misunderstood me. Forgive me, I will make it seventy-seven times.†> The man said, â€It makes no difference. I’m a wrestler. I can even tolerate seventy-seven times. > What about after that? You can give me any number, but the question remains the same †" what > after that?†> If the question remains, then the man has not given forgiveness even at the first time. He is simply > following a ritual, and collecting more and more anger, more and more rage for the moment when > all the times that Buddha has said to be forgiving are finished †" then he is going to see to this fellow. > Seeing the situation Buddha said, â€I take my statement back. I will not say seven times, I will not say > seventy-seven times. I simply say, ‘Forgive.’ I was wrong to give you numbers. I don’t give you any > numbers; just forgive.†>  Regards > Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________ > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 > > Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:50:36 AM > Re: Re: House No. 8! > >  > Goel ji, I am sorry your comments are not in good taste. Please refrain from making derogatory remarks about anyone. > Everyone is unmoderated, so please be responsible for your own statements, you're likely to get it back. > > We can have healthy discussions without passing personal remarks and judgements. Kindly check the tone and language used for other learned members. > We can agree to disagree with dignity. > > Bhaskar ji, Kulbir ji, let us close the controversy and move ahead. > > Moderator > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 23:09, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote: > >  > >Dear Bhaskar ji, > >//This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > >Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > >Please explain this part.// > >//But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...?// > > > >I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from lalkitab groups. > >Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward by me, their last resort is my horoscope. > > Regards > >Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology > >Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM > > > >[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >Dear Goel ji, > >// Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. // > >Please do not harbor any concern over this...  My consciousness is overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my duty in this material Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias towards either the Sun or Saturn....or any other planet. > >// Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to > >> live life at all condition.// > >My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, rather defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken of as weak. > >// that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > >> meat. It destroys children. > >> Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > >> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > >> Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // > >I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my chart... > >But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you ...? > >Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat Meat , and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and highly irrelevant.. . > >I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been transparent about it... > >What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a saint ? > >But who says that I am a sinner.... ? > >This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations in my chart ? > >Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > >Please explain this part. > >regards, > >Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " <goyalvj@> wrote: > >> > >> Dear Bhaskerji, > >> > >> Hare Rama Krsna, > >> > >> // > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > >> > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > >> // > >> > >> I totally dis-agree with it. > >> This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > >> This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in > >> the chart. > >> > >> //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > >> needs guts to kill himself.// > >> > >> This explanation is only a joke. > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > >> Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > >> life energy of Sun within. > >> Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to > >> live life at all condition. > >> > >> Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness > >> my dear !. > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- - > >> > >> Lal-Kitab says > >> " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > >> hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > >> > >> that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > >> meat. It destroys children. > >> Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > >> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > >> Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > >> > >> ------------ --------- --------- > >> > >> I have just put my thought > >> > >> Thankyou, > >> Regards, > >> Vijay Goel > >> Jaipur. > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > >> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > >> > > >> > Only the strong can commit suicides. > >> > > >> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > >> > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > >> > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > >> > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > >> > needs guts to kill himself. > >> > > >> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > >> > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > >> > take such a major step in Life. > >> > > >> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was > >> a > >> > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > >> > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > >> > > >> > regards/Bhaskar. > >> > > >> > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > >> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > >> > > > >> > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > >> the > >> > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > >> > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > >> cannot > >> > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > >> > has > >> > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > >> > > > >> > > regards, > >> > > > >> > > Bhaskar. > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > >> > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > >> > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > >> only > >> > > thing associated with 8th house. > >> > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > >> > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > >> > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > >> effects > >> > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > >> > antihero. > >> > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > >> > > circumstances. > >> > > > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > >> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > >> > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >  > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > >> > out > >> > > her life. > >> > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > >> > in > >> > > 8H!! > >> > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > >> > > > > >> > > > Regards > >> > > > Neelam > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > Dear All, > >> > > > > >> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > >> > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > >> > > expecting some practical demos. > >> > > > > >> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > >> > > > > >> > > > BT: 1..6.1926/9. 30 hrs/ LA, California > >> > > > > >> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > >> > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > >> > > > > >> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > >> > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > >> > > > > >> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > >> > and > >> > > scandals! > >> > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > >> are > >> > > made by the 8H. > >> > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > >> > > > > >> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > >> > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > >> > > > > >> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > >> > > > > >> > > > All comments are welcome! > >> > > > > >> > > > Regards > >> > > > Neelam > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > >> > > wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >  > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > >> > > >  > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > >> > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > >> > that. > >> > > > >  > >> > > > > >> > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > >> > > destruction. > >> > > > >  > >> > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > >> which > >> > > nobody want to see. > >> > > > >  > >> > > > > >> > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of > >> VRY > >> > > > >  > >> > > > > Indian Kachua > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > >> > > > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > >> > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > >  > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Dear Freinds, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > >> > as > >> > > a > >> > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > >> september > >> > > 2009 > >> > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. > >> Its > >> > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > >> > > > > retrograde both. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > >> > > trikonas > >> > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > >> how > >> > > will > >> > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > >> > will > >> > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > >> > > > > > >> > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > >> and > >> > do > >> > > not > >> > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > >> interested.. > >> > . > >> > > > > > >> > > > > best wishes, > >> > > > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar. > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > >> > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > >________________________________ > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 2, 2010 Dear Kulbir ji, Thank you for these beautiful postings containing so many insights and words of wisdom.. Since last 5 years or so I have been selective in choosing my adversaries. Do not go for weak ones, easily crushable ones, or who will make me too dirty if I indulge with them. I go for those equal to me or people higher over me. In fact these days I dont even want any adversary and just want to live my Life without any such disturbances which bring in hatred or resentment in the heart for fellow beings, because ultimately its He in everybody, Narayan as LaxmiNarayan in a Wealthy Seth, or as a DaridraNarayan in a poor beggar. You wll note that since last year or so, on this Forum too, I normally ignore stupid postings and do not enter the thread early, though I would like to say a good word or two to the one who has posted a henious type of message on board with regards to astrology or pointers of astrological principles. For the simple reasons that they are not worthy of exchanges or getting intio arguments with. Life is too short to make and spread Love and such aberrations will keep coming in even if we stay alive for the next 100 years. Its upto us to waste our time in such frugal matters, or utilise them for better reasons by ignoring these. I would rather have an adversary who is wise, strong, with stomache full of well digested food, rather than deal with a jealous idiot who has not been able to make any space in the wide sky for himself, nor any piece of Land on this Earth. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > Osho says > " This has been my experience, that when you choose a friend you need not be very cautious †" > anybody will do. But when you choose your enemy, you have to be very cautious, because the > enemy has to be someone with the best qualities possible. Because you are going to fight with him. > And whenever you fight with someone, slowly, slowly you become exactly like your enemy. > Never choose the wrong enemy; otherwise, even in your victory, you will be defeated because you > will have to learn the same strategies, the same cunningness, as your enemy; otherwise you cannot > fight with him. > Choose the enemy who is wise, and to fight with him you have to be wise. Choose your enemy who > is intelligent, because to fight with him you have to be intelligent. Choose your enemy remembering > perfectly that, fighting with him you will become like him. Whether you are defeated or you are > victorious is secondary. The primary concern should be the choice of the right enemy. There is a proverb in India that â€Camels don’t like to go near mountainsâ€; that’s why they have chosen > to live in the deserts where they are the mountains. By the side of a mountain, the camel will feel > very inferior. To avoid the feeling of inferiority, mountains have to be removed, deserts have to becreated " >  Regards > Kulbir Bains > > > > > ________________________________ > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > > Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:57:39 AM > Re: House No. 8! > >  > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > The statement which he put up regards to the position of the Sun in > 11th, is a very basic remedial measure for Lalkitab, which I learnt 25 > years ago, while studying this great Book. > > I had also put this same statement about 3 months ago (About alochol > with Sun in 11th), so it was nothing new to me, and could not understand > why this statement should be attributed to me when there was no context > requisiting the same... It was not in good taste. > > When I keep away from the mediocore and their postongs, why should they > challnge me for exchanges which will end up in their himiliations and > not mines, because I am very straightforward, transparent and do not > fear anybody other than God. > > Personal Chart is for discussion on astrological matters, and not for > telling somebody that " If You drink alcohol and meat........ .this will > happen .. " OR " Saturn is Overpowering your senses " OR other such > unnecessary remarks. > > Which member of these Groups and amongst more than 50000 of them who > must be knowing me here, can prove or say that they have ever seen me > drinking alcohol or eating Meat ? > > Talking about women I do many times, then will they attrivbute that I am > going to whores, and I must stop doing that because yours is a " Dharmi > tewa " ? What nonsense is this. > > I talk about alcohol too, in Face Book I just mentioned two days ago > that " After 9.00pm I am inebriviated " so some fools must take this as > Reality and now talk rubbish ? I talk about women, I talk about Movie > Stars, I talk about Romance. Why ? these fools will never realise. But > let me be honest once again. these are all marketing strategies to pull > the common folks towards yourself, by talking in the language they > understand, and then doing the bit which youw ant to, once in a while > without it looking apparent. But yeh Baniya buddhi sirf Marwadi ka > baccha samajh sakta hai, doodh bechne wala nahin. ( these are aggressive > marketing techniques of ones wares by pulling a crowd by co-relating > with them in the ways they understand) > > People must show their smartness by talking about astrology about which > they even dont know abcd, and trying to appear wise with such nonsense > talkings ? > > Forget it.... dear Kulbir ji.. I have ample proof about the gentleman to > point out many irregularities about his Lifestle and knowledge of > astrology but will refrain, because we cannot stoop to those levels as > we are cultured people. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb > <lalkitabkb@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations > in my chart ? > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > Please explain this part.// > > //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > ...?// > >  > > I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from > lalkitab groups. > > Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward > by me, their last resort is my horoscope. > >  Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > >  > > Dear Goel ji, > > // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your > consciousness my dear !. // > > Please do not harbor any concern over this...  My > consciousness is overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my > duty in this material Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias > towards either the Sun or Saturn...or any other planet.. > > // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they > inspire to > > > live life at all condition.// > > My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, > rather defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken > of as weak. > > // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and > eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // > > I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my > chart... > > But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > ...? > > Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat > Meat , and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and > highly irrelevant.. . > > I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been > transparent about it... > > What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a > saint ? > > But who says that I am a sinner... ? > > This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations > in my chart ? > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > Please explain this part. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > >  > >  > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > // > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > // > > > > > > I totally dis-agree with it. > > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and > Sun in > > > the chart. > > > > > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > One > > > needs guts to kill himself.// > > > > > > This explanation is only a joke. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > > > life energy of Sun within. > > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they > inspire to > > > live life at all condition. > > > > > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your > consciousness > > > my dear !. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - > > > > > > Lal-Kitab says > > > " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > > > > > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > I have just put my thought > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > cope > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > family > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > help > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > One > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade.. Its not easy to do this. One > must > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order > to > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > was > > > a > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > checking > > > the > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > got > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > cannot > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. > He > > > > has > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > mehta > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > only > > > > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > also > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. > Its > > > effects > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > antihero. > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > through > > > > out > > > > > her life. > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > Jup > > > > in > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > and > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6..1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > secrets > > > > and > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > which > > > are > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.. > in> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > Kachuaa > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will > see > > > > that. > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > PowerÃÆ'‚ and > > > which > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > of > > > VRY > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > Horoscope > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > september > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > Lagna. > > > Its > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > and > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > and > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > ..and > > > how > > > > > will > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > what > > > > will > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > now... > > > and > > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > interested.. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > NOW! > > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Kulbir bhai, //> I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from lalkitab groups. Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward by me, their last resort is my horoscope.// I never discuss any personal horoscope in the forum. It is respected Bhaskerji who has presented his own horoscope in this thread, please see previous post. Secondly whenever i write i only focus on the horoscope. --- Whenever anybody says (not only astrologer) that suicide is the act of bravery that i am against that statement not against him. I will always say suicide is the act of cowardice, an act of murder of self, anytime, anywhere.! Astrologer is Karak for Jupiter and owns the knowledge given by Sun and Moon, (all karak for lagna and body) which are source of light. Atleast how he is going to show the path of malefic saturn and turning 8H negative, curtailing longetivity. --- I donot have much time as i have to rush to Delhi, but i will certainly explain you logics behind it over phone. Bhasker is respected by me and he know it well, we can have sweet confrontation over thought, don't worry His post on KP is one of the brilliant writing i always admire through my heart. --- Thankyou, Best Wishes, Vijay Goel , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Kulbir ji, > > The statement which he put up regards to the position of the Sun in > 11th, is a very basic remedial measure for Lalkitab, which I learnt 25 > years ago, while studying this great Book. > > I had also put this same statement about 3 months ago (About alochol > with Sun in 11th), so it was nothing new to me, and could not understand > why this statement should be attributed to me when there was no context > requisiting the same... It was not in good taste. > > When I keep away from the mediocore and their postongs, why should they > challnge me for exchanges which will end up in their himiliations and > not mines, because I am very straightforward, transparent and do not > fear anybody other than God. > > Personal Chart is for discussion on astrological matters, and not for > telling somebody that " If You drink alcohol and meat.........this will > happen .. " OR " Saturn is Overpowering your senses " OR other such > unnecessary remarks. > > Which member of these Groups and amongst more than 50000 of them who > must be knowing me here, can prove or say that they have ever seen me > drinking alcohol or eating Meat ? > > Talking about women I do many times, then will they attrivbute that I am > going to whores, and I must stop doing that because yours is a " Dharmi > tewa " ? What nonsense is this. > > I talk about alcohol too, in Face Book I just mentioned two days ago > that " After 9.00pm I am inebriviated " so some fools must take this as > Reality and now talk rubbish ? I talk about women, I talk about Movie > Stars, I talk about Romance. Why ? these fools will never realise. But > let me be honest once again. these are all marketing strategies to pull > the common folks towards yourself, by talking in the language they > understand, and then doing the bit which youw ant to, once in a while > without it looking apparent. But yeh Baniya buddhi sirf Marwadi ka > baccha samajh sakta hai, doodh bechne wala nahin. ( these are aggressive > marketing techniques of ones wares by pulling a crowd by co-relating > with them in the ways they understand) > > People must show their smartness by talking about astrology about which > they even dont know abcd, and trying to appear wise with such nonsense > talkings ? > > Forget it.... dear Kulbir ji.. I have ample proof about the gentleman to > point out many irregularities about his Lifestle and knowledge of > astrology but will refrain, because we cannot stoop to those levels as > we are cultured people. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > , Lalkitab Kb > <lalkitabkb@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations > in my chart ? > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > Please explain this part.// > > //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > ...?// > >  > > I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from > lalkitab groups. > > Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward > by me, their last resort is my horoscope. > >  Regards > > Kulbir Bains > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM > > Re: House No. 8! > > > >  > > Dear Goel ji, > > // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your > consciousness my dear !. // > > Please do not harbor any concern over this...  My > consciousness is overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my > duty in this material Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias > towards either the Sun or Saturn...or any other planet.. > > // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they > inspire to > > > live life at all condition.// > > My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide, > rather defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken > of as weak. > > // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and > eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. // > > I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my > chart... > > But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you > ...? > > Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat > Meat , and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and > highly irrelevant.. . > > I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been > transparent about it... > > What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a > saint ? > > But who says that I am a sinner... ? > > This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations > in my chart ? > > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ? > > Please explain this part. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > >  > >  > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > // > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > // > > > > > > I totally dis-agree with it. > > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and > Sun in > > > the chart. > > > > > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > One > > > needs guts to kill himself.// > > > > > > This explanation is only a joke. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > > > life energy of Sun within. > > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they > inspire to > > > live life at all condition. > > > > > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your > consciousness > > > my dear !. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - > > > > > > Lal-Kitab says > > > " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > > > > > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > > meat. It destroys children. > > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > > > I have just put my thought > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > Regards, > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > cope > > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > family > > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > help > > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. > One > > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > must > > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order > to > > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who > was > > > a > > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > checking > > > the > > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > got > > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > > cannot > > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. > He > > > > has > > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv > mehta > > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > > only > > > > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > also > > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. > Its > > > effects > > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > antihero. > > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > through > > > > out > > > > > her life. > > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and > Jup > > > > in > > > > > 8H!! > > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > gmail.com> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for > and > > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > secrets > > > > and > > > > > scandals! > > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > which > > > are > > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.. > in> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > Kachuaa > > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will > see > > > > that. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > > destruction. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > Power and > > > which > > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > of > > > VRY > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > Horoscope > > > > as > > > > > a > > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > september > > > > > 2009 > > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > Lagna. > > > Its > > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > and > > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > and > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > ..and > > > how > > > > > will > > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > what > > > > will > > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > now... > > > and > > > > do > > > > > not > > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > interested.. > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it > NOW! > > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Goel ji, What do you have to say about Kamikaze Lets discuss it on forum, I don't require any preferential treatment. RegardsKulbir Bains vijay.goel <goyalvj Sent: Tue, 2 February, 2010 6:00:30 PM Re: House No. 8! Dear Kulbir bhai,//> I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend fromlalkitab groups.Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forwardby me, their last resort is my horoscope.//I never discuss any personal horoscope in the forum. It is respected Bhaskerji who has presented his own horoscope in this thread, please see previous post.Secondly whenever i write i only focus on the horoscope.------------ --------- --------- ------Whenever anybody says (not only astrologer) that suicide is the act of bravery that i am against that statement not against him.I will always say suicide is the act of cowardice, an act of murder of self, anytime, anywhere.!Astrologer is Karak for Jupiter and owns the knowledge given by Sun and Moon, (all karak for lagna and body) which are source of light.Atleast how he is going to show the path of malefic saturn and turning 8H negative, curtailing longetivity.------------ --------- --------- ------I donot have much time as i have to rush to Delhi, but i will certainly explain you logics behind it over phone. Bhasker is respected by me and he know it well, we can have sweet confrontation over thought, don't worry :)His post on KP is one of the brilliant writing i always admire through my heart. ------------ --------- --------- ------Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay Goelancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Kulbir ji,> > The statement which he put up regards to the position of the Sun in> 11th, is a very basic remedial measure for Lalkitab, which I learnt 25> years ago, while studying this great Book.> > I had also put this same statement about 3 months ago (About alochol> with Sun in 11th), so it was nothing new to me, and could not understand> why this statement should be attributed to me when there was no context> requisiting the same... It was not in good taste.> > When I keep away from the mediocore and their postongs, why should they> challnge me for exchanges which will end up in their himiliations and> not mines, because I am very straightforward, transparent and do not> fear anybody other than God.> > Personal Chart is for discussion on astrological matters, and not for> telling somebody that "If You drink alcohol and meat........ .this will> happen .." OR " Saturn is Overpowering your senses" OR other such> unnecessary remarks.> > Which member of these Groups and amongst more than 50000 of them who> must be knowing me here, can prove or say that they have ever seen me> drinking alcohol or eating Meat ?> > Talking about women I do many times, then will they attrivbute that I am> going to whores, and I must stop doing that because yours is a "Dharmi> tewa" ? What nonsense is this.> > I talk about alcohol too, in Face Book I just mentioned two days ago> that "After 9.00pm I am inebriviated" so some fools must take this as> Reality and now talk rubbish ? I talk about women, I talk about Movie> Stars, I talk about Romance. Why ? these fools will never realise. But> let me be honest once again. these are all marketing strategies to pull> the common folks towards yourself, by talking in the language they> understand, and then doing the bit which youw ant to, once in a while> without it looking apparent. But yeh Baniya buddhi sirf Marwadi ka> baccha samajh sakta hai, doodh bechne wala nahin. ( these are aggressive> marketing techniques of ones wares by pulling a crowd by co-relating> with them in the ways they understand)> > People must show their smartness by talking about astrology about which> they even dont know abcd, and trying to appear wise with such nonsense> talkings ?> > Forget it..... dear Kulbir ji.. I have ample proof about the gentleman to> point out many irregularities about his Lifestle and knowledge of> astrology but will refrain, because we cannot stoop to those levels as> we are cultured people.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb> <lalkitabkb@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations> in my chart ?> > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ?> > Please explain this part.//> > //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you> ...?//> > Â> > I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from> lalkitab groups.> > Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward> by me, their last resort is my horoscope.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >> > Â> > Dear Goel ji,> > // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your> consciousness my dear !. //> > Please do not harbor any concern over this...  My> consciousness is overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my> duty in this material Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias> towards either the Sun or Saturn...or any other planet..> > // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they> inspire to> > > live life at all condition.//> > My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide,> rather defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken> of as weak.> > // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and> eat> > > meat. It destroys children.> > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.. //> > I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my> chart...> > But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you> ...?> > Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat> Meat , and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and> highly irrelevant.. .> > I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been> transparent about it...> > What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a> saint ?> > But who says that I am a sinner... ?> > This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations> in my chart ?> > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ?> > Please explain this part.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > Â> > Â> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskerji,> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > >> > > //> > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > >> > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > //> > >> > > I totally dis-agree with it.> > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.> > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and> Sun in> > > the chart.> > >> > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> cope> > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> help> > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> One> > > needs guts to kill himself.//> > >> > > This explanation is only a joke.> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has> > > life energy of Sun within.> > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they> inspire to> > > live life at all condition.> > >> > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your> consciousness> > > my dear !.> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- -> > >> > > Lal-Kitab says> > > "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka> > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"> > >> > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> > > meat. It destroys children.> > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.> > >> > > ------------ --------- ---------> > >> > > I have just put my thought > > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > > >> > > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > >> > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> cope> > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close> family> > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> help> > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> One> > > > needs guts to kill himself.> > > >> > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One> must> > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order> to> > > > take such a major step in Life.> > > >> > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who> was> > > a> > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times..> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > > --- In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > > > >> > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start> checking> > > the> > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have> got> > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> > > cannot> > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies.> He> > > > has> > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv> mehta> > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> > > only> > > > > thing associated with 8th house.> > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am> also> > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well.> Its> > > effects> > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > > > antihero.> > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > > > > circumstances.> > > > > >> > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas> through> > > > out> > > > > her life.> > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and> Jup> > > > in> > > > > 8H!!> > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> gmail.com>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > >> > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for> and> > > > > expecting some practical demos.> > > > > >> > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is> authentic.> > > > > >> > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > >> > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > >> > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > >> > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of> secrets> > > > and> > > > > scandals!> > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend> which> > > are> > > > > made by the 8H.> > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > >> > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > >> > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > >> > > > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co..> in>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian> Kachuaa> > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will> see> > > > that.> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > >> > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > > > destruction.> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or> Power and> > > which> > > > > nobody want to see.> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > >> > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification> of> > > VRY> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> > > > > >> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my> Horoscope> > > > as> > > > > a> > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> > > september> > > > > 2009> > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my> Lagna.> > > Its> > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated> and> > > > > > > retrograde both.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras> and> > > > > trikonas> > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here> ..and> > > how> > > > > will> > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me> what> > > > will> > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material> now...> > > and> > > > do> > > > > not> > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> > > interested..> > > > .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it> NOW!> > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Respected Mehtaji,Jupiter is in Leo in 5th house. He is my 12th and 9th lord.That is why Bhaskar ji predicted a long journey for me this year.Regards, Anita--- On Tue, 2/2/10, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote:chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjivRe: Re: House No. 8! Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 2:18 PM Smt Anitaji, Where is your Jupiter ? Remember you saying that Sun was in 7th. Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Anita R <ash.rsh55 > wrote: Anita R <ash.rsh55 >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 2 February, 2010, 7:15 PM Respected Mehtaji,I too have my eighth lord who also happens to be my lagna lord in 6th with my fourth lord moon. How it has affected my life is that my in-laws, one of the significations of the 8th house, created a lot of problems in my house and marriage for 8 long years, until I "handled" them conclusively and effectively during the maha dasa of my 12th cum 9th lord and antar dasha of 6th lord. See how the 8th, 12th and 6th houses came together for my benefit. Peace reigns supreme now. )Regards, Anita--- On Tue, 2/2/10, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:11 AM Dear Bhaskarji, Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and maternal uncles. In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps deliver the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is placed in natal chart. Waiting for your feedback. Thanks & Regards Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM Dear Freinds,Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as afishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Itsplaced in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated andretrograde both.Will the VRY work here now ?Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and trikonasbcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how willit manifest itself..and please time it.Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what willhappen , and when, in Tangibles...My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do notbegin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .best wishes,Bhaskar. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji,what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of hers long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If you see Elton John's video "CANDLE IN THE WIND", when Marlene Monroe makes her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed "WOW' when she made her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging dress..perhaps all should watch this video..I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the people who are born at the same time in different parts of the world?????????Regards, Anita--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj wrote:Manoj Chandran <chandran_manojRe: Re: House No. 8! Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM Neelam Ji, She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences. Regards, -Manoj neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AMRe: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. Nothing has been said with certainty.//Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting from a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKIRegardsNeelam On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: Suicides cannot be done by weak people....Only the strong can commit suicides.They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to copewith losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close familymembers, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to helpthem, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. Oneneeds guts to kill himself.Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One musthave to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order totake such a major step in Life.I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was adarling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them toromance with this beautiful lady of her times.regards/Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>>> Dear Chiranjiv ji,>> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. Hehas> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.>> regards,>> Bhaskar.>>>>> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> vchiranjiv@ wrote:> >> > Marilyn Monroe ?> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only> thing associated with 8th house.> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is anantihero.> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> circumstances.> >> > Chiranjiv Mehta> >> >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas throughout> her life.> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jupin> 8H!!> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> wrote:> >> > Dear All,> >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> expecting some practical demos.> >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secretsand> scandals!> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are> made by the 8H.> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> >> > All comments are welcome!> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> wrote:> >> >> > Â> >> >> >> >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > Â> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will seethat.> > > ÂÂ> >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> destruction.> > > ÂÂ> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which> nobody want to see.> > > ÂÂ> >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > ÂÂ> > > Indian Kachua> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > >> > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > >> > >> > > ÂÂ> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Freinds,> > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscopeas> a> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september> 2009> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > retrograde both.> > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> trikonas> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how> will> > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me whatwill> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... anddo> not> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested...> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 dear Anita ji, Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a particular star , become stars, all of them. We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of hers long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If you see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the people who are born at the same time in different parts of the world????????? > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj wrote: > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM >  > > > > Neelam Ji, >  > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! >  > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >  > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > >  > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > needs guts to kill himself. > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > take such a major step in Life. > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > has > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only > > thing > associated with 8th house. > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > antihero. > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > circumstances. > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > out > > her life. > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > in > > 8H!! > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > and > > scandals! > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > > made by the 8H. > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > >  > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > that. > > > >  > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > destruction. > > > >  > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which > > nobody want to see. > > > >  > > > > > > > Family and > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > >  > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > as > > a > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > > 2009 > > > > I am running antardasha of > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > trikonas > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > will > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > will > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > do > > not > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > . > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear All,a friend sent me the following sms the other day. Please go through it.In life, you might at some point, find that all doors are closed. At that point, please remember that ALL DOORS ARE NOT LOCKED.Very true, would n't we all agree?Love to every one.Anita--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: House No. 8! Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 5:30 PM Dear Goel ji, // //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.//This explanation is only a joke. // Please justify how this is a joke, because Suicide is not a joke. It needs abnormal human strength of the will, to commit a suicide. What is a serious explanation. Kindly enlighten. Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskerji,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > //> Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> //> > I totally dis-agree with it.> This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.> This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in> the chart.> > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.//> > This explanation is only a joke.> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has> life energy of Sun within.> Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to> live life at all condition.> > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness> my dear !.> > ------------ --------- --------- -> > Lal-Kitab says> "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka> hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"> > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> meat. It destroys children.> Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.> > ------------ --------- ---------> > I have just put my thought > > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> >> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> >> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> > needs guts to kill himself.> >> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> > take such a major step in Life.> >> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was> a> > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > >> > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking> the> > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> cannot> > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> > has> > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> only> > > thing associated with 8th house.> > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its> effects> > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > antihero.> > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > > circumstances.> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> > out> > > her life.> > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> > in> > > 8H!!> > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > > expecting some practical demos.> > > >> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > >> > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > >> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > >> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > >> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> > and> > > scandals!> > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which> are> > > made by the 8H.> > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > >> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > >> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > >> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > that.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > destruction.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and> which> > > nobody want to see.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of> VRY> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com> > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > >> > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> > as> > > a> > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> september> > > 2009> > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna.> Its> > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > retrograde both.> > > > >> > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > >> > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > > trikonas> > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > >> > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and> how> > > will> > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > >> > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> > will> > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > >> > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> and> > do> > > not> > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> interested..> > .> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > >> > >> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Anita ji, Yes I agree that till a mans hands and feet are workinga nd is able to move them, all doors are not locked... BUT to a man who is suffering from acute pain with aterminally dreadful disease and pronounced uncurable, who has become a dependant on machines, medicines and his family members who ahve to pay to keep him living with no hope, and just elongating his Life, and the man having to suffer unbearable pain, then " Euthnasia " or Voluntary suicide is acceptable, otherwise, in all cases I would consider as " Cowardly " and a " Weakness " though temporary one, but which results in " Fatal " . best wishes, Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Dear All, > a friend sent me the following sms the other day. Please go through it. > > In life, you might at some point, find that all doors are closed. At that point, please remember that ALL DOORS ARE NOT LOCKED. > Very true, would n't we all agree? > Love to every one. > Anita > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Re: House No. 8! > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 5:30 PM >  > > > Dear Goel ji, > // //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.// > > This explanation is only a joke. // > Please justify how this is a joke, because Suicide is not a joke. It needs abnormal human strength of the will, to commit a suicide. > What is a serious explanation. Kindly enlighten. > Bhaskar. > >  > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > // > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > // > > > > I totally dis-agree with it. > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in > > the chart. > > > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > needs guts to kill himself.// > > > > This explanation is only a joke. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > > life energy of Sun within. > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to > > live life at all condition. > > > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness > > my dear !. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - > > > > Lal-Kitab says > > " Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70 " > > > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > meat. It destroys children. > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > I have just put my thought > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was > > a > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > the > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > has > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > only > > > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > effects > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > antihero. > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > > out > > > > her life. > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > > > in > > > > 8H!! > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > and > > > > scandals! > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > are > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > that. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > destruction. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > > which > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of > > VRY > > > > > >  > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > 2009 > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. > > Its > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > trikonas > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ...and > > how > > > > will > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > will > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and > > > do > > > > not > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Respected Kulbir JI, I would like to add here --'values' can not remains 'fixed' they must be movable and hence time to time they have to be changed and get refreshed to inline with 'Time' --So what ever could be.....when we think we can arrive at 'value'...which is central idea only base on that every system and all building are appeared.......... --There are number of thoughts and their controversial as well in each and every Area...but when identify 'value' behind them we can understand what is Truth......... Below are command from osho if they can help to anybody in a way osho thought/saw....i prefer by priority sequence but that does not makes difference # Never obey anyone's command unless it is coming from within you also. # There is no God other than life itself. # Truth is within you, do not search for it elsewhere. # Love is prayer. # To become a nothingness is the door to truth. Nothingness itself is the means, the goal and attainment. # Life is now and here. # Live wakefully. # Do not swim – float. # Die each moment so that you can be new each moment. # Do not search. That which is, is. Stop and see. ------------------ Regards, Devisingh Lalkitab Kb wrote:  Dear Goel ji,  There has been a sage called KESHKAMBAL who strongly advocated suicide. Kindly read about him.  Regards Kulbir Bains vijay.goel <goyalvj > Tue, 2 February, 2010 8:56:16 AM Subject: Re: House No. 8!  Dear Bhaskerji, Hare Rama Krsna, // Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... Only the strong can commit suicides. // I totally dis-agree with it. This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in the chart.. //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.// This explanation is only a joke. ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has life energy of Sun within. Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to live life at all condition. Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. ------------ --------- --------- - Lal-Kitab says "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70" that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat meat. It destroys children. Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. ------------ --------- --------- I have just put my thought Thankyou, Regards, Vijay Goel Jaipur. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > needs guts to kill himself. > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > take such a major step in Life. > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > has > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > antihero. > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > circumstances. > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > out > > her life. > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > in > > 8H!! > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > and > > scandals! > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > > made by the 8H. > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > >  > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > that.. > > > >  > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > destruction. > > > >  > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which > > nobody want to see. > > > >  > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > >  > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > as > > a > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > > 2009 > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > trikonas > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > will > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > will > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > do > > not > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > . > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Kulbirji, I do not know about this sage but...... The current generation does not know much about Samadhi taken bu a Sanyasi. My old school friend had gone to the Samadhi of a saint and came back asking me ... why do these guys commit sucide ?? So no use talking about it.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb wrote: Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkbRe: Re: House No. 8! Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:43 PM Dear Goel ji, There has been a sage called KESHKAMBAL who strongly advocated suicide. Kindly read about him. RegardsKulbir Bains vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 8:56:16 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Bhaskerji,Hare Rama Krsna,//Suicides cannot be done by weak people....Only the strong can commit suicides.//I totally dis-agree with it.This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in the chart..//They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.//This explanation is only a joke.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has life energy of Sun within.Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to live life at all condition.Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. ------------ --------- --------- -Lal-Kitab says "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat meat. It destroys children.Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.------------ --------- ---------I have just put my thought :)Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> take such a major step in Life.> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> has> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only> > thing associated with 8th house.> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> antihero.> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > circumstances.> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> out> > her life.> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> in> > 8H!!> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > expecting some practical demos.> > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> and> > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are> > made by the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > >> > > All comments are welcome!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > Â> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> that..> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > destruction.> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which> > nobody want to see.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> as> > a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september> > 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how> > will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and> do> > not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested..> .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Neelam Ji and All, I have all the Masala and practical life events to share for this *House No 8* //8L in 9th would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to use it!! This is 8L in 9th!// I have 8L (Mars) in 9H and enjoyed all the comforts and Luxurious life Courtesy Father's Money, Business, Weath and Power.That too during 8L MD education and in RAHU MD. Rahu is in my 8H entire Rahu MD was Excellent 1. Completed B'com graduation 2. Technical training on Servicing TVs father was running and Electronics and Electrical shop 3. College life was vibrant with many girl friends even majority of Girl band supporting me and my Gang in elections hence attracted attacks and Lot of Street fights from my opponents But was successful in qushing them. Note: I never initited any fights but used to give my opponents fitting reply 4. Regular visits Temples, visited many Holy places in Karnataka Andhra (Mantralaya) 5. Was working almost 24x7 mode College, Shop used to travel a lot for sales (distribution business) within 4 Districts of Karnataka 6. 7-8 Accedents 2 were major but recovered fast. Interesting thing is I never met with any accedent when i was Drunk and driving all accedents happened when i was not drunk. i am mentioning this since all my friends and even my Dad were Stunned about this my unique feature and were very much comforatble and confident when i am driving the Car after the Night -out Parties!! I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu MD my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically) 7. Love Affairs 2 (Note: No Scandals:-):-)) 8. Casual and Physical relationships 4 9. Foreign Travel 10. Foreign Job(s) 11. Last thing happened was The Marriage:-( Though My Father has 2 Properties now, Honestly i never inclined or wish to get any inheritance i personally do not believe in that somehow. Rather i am more inclined to Aquire my OWN Assets. Hope this will help in study and further research in Astrology Regards Chandu2Chill , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > The basic tenet is that trik lords when placed in kendra or kona positions > do well for their houses but spoil the house they are posited in. 8L in 9th > would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. > Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to > use it!! This is 8L in 9th! > > I know of such a case. A man has inherited huge property after the death of > his father, but it is all old rented property givin meagre rent and he has > had no luck with it! > > Regards > Neelam > > > > On 2 February 2010 20:55, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv wrote: > > > > > > > Just a small aside - > > > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house is > > considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 planets in > > 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj* wrote: > > > > > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or > > drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has > > gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else > > it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house > > lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be > > strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of > > the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of > > opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable > > consequences. > > > > Regards, > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > ** neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology > > *Sent:* Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide > > or overdose of barbiturates. > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded > > cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a " probable > > suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the > > circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some > > conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories > > suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=bhaskar_jyotish > > > wrote: > > > >> > >> > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > >> > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > >> > >> They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > >> needs guts to kill himself. > >> > >> Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > >> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > >> take such a major step in Life. > >> > >> I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > >> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > >> romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > >> > >> regards/Bhaskar. > >> > >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > >> " Bhaskar " > >> > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > >> > > >> > > >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > >> > > >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > >> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > >> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > >> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > >> has > >> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > >> > > >> > regards, > >> > > >> > Bhaskar. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > >> chiranjiv mehta > >> > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ? > >> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only > >> > thing associated with 8th house. > >> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > >> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > >> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > >> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > >> antihero. > >> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > >> > circumstances. > >> > > > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > >> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > >> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >  > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > >> out > >> > her life. > >> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > >> in > >> > 8H!! > >> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > >> > > > >> > > Regards > >> > > Neelam > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > Dear All, > >> > > > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > >> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > >> > expecting some practical demos. > >> > > > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > >> > > > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > >> > > > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > >> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > >> > > > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > >> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > >> > > > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > >> and > >> > scandals! > >> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > >> > made by the 8H. > >> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > >> > > > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > >> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > >> > > > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > >> > > > >> > > All comments are welcome! > >> > > > >> > > Regards > >> > > Neelam > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > >> > wrote: > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >  > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > >> > >  > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > >> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > >> that. > >> > > >  > >> > > > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > >> > destruction. > >> > > >  > >> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which > >> > nobody want to see. > >> > > >  > >> > > > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > >> > > >  > >> > > > Indian Kachua > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > >> > > > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > >> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >  > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > Dear Freinds, > >> > > > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > >> as > >> > a > >> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > >> > 2009 > >> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > >> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > >> > > > retrograde both. > >> > > > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > >> > > > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > >> > trikonas > >> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > >> > > > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > >> > will > >> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > >> > > > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > >> will > >> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > >> > > > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > >> do > >> > not > >> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > >> . > >> > > > > >> > > > best wishes, > >> > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar. > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > >> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/<http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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