Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya... // I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu MD my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically)// This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily... Rahu is what I am running now. Rahu was what you were running then. And Rahu is what this CA gentleman who came to my place yesterday is running now. (I mentioned about him in another mail, but did not mention that he has started drinking daily now and in good quantities since his Rahu MD started). Rahu does produce in a man the desire to intoxicate. but must say you are an expert in bringing out your chart somehow or the other and keep it actively in discussion on these Groups. Haha. Tussi gr8 ho ji. Cheers, and best wishes,' Bhaskar. , " CP " <nanna_id2006 wrote: > > Dear Neelam Ji and All, > > I have all the Masala and practical life events to share for this *House No 8* > > //8L in 9th would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to use it!! This is 8L in 9th!// > > I have 8L (Mars) in 9H and enjoyed all the comforts and Luxurious life Courtesy Father's Money, Business, Weath and Power.That too during 8L MD education and in RAHU MD. Rahu is in my 8H entire Rahu MD was Excellent > > 1. Completed B'com graduation > > 2. Technical training on Servicing TVs father was running and Electronics and Electrical shop > > 3. College life was vibrant with many girl friends even majority of Girl band supporting me and my Gang in elections hence attracted attacks and Lot of Street fights from my opponents But was successful in qushing them. Note: I never initited any fights but used to give my opponents fitting reply > > 4. Regular visits Temples, visited many Holy places in Karnataka Andhra (Mantralaya) > > 5. Was working almost 24x7 mode College, Shop used to travel a lot for sales (distribution business) within 4 Districts of Karnataka > > 6. 7-8 Accedents 2 were major but recovered fast. Interesting thing is I never met with any accedent when i was Drunk and driving all accedents happened when i was not drunk. i am mentioning this since all my friends and even my Dad were Stunned about this my unique feature and were very much comforatble and confident when i am driving the Car after the Night -out Parties!! > > I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu MD my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically) > > 7. Love Affairs 2 (Note: No Scandals:-):-)) > 8. Casual and Physical relationships 4 > 9. Foreign Travel > 10. Foreign Job(s) > 11. Last thing happened was The Marriage:-( > > Though My Father has 2 Properties now, Honestly i never inclined or wish to get any inheritance i personally do not believe in that somehow. Rather i am more inclined to Aquire my OWN Assets. > > Hope this will help in study and further research in Astrology > > Regards > > Chandu2Chill > > > , neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > The basic tenet is that trik lords when placed in kendra or kona positions > > do well for their houses but spoil the house they are posited in. 8L in 9th > > would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. > > Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to > > use it!! This is 8L in 9th! > > > > I know of such a case. A man has inherited huge property after the death of > > his father, but it is all old rented property givin meagre rent and he has > > had no luck with it! > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 20:55, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small aside - > > > > > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house is > > > considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 planets in > > > 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@* wrote: > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or > > > drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has > > > gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else > > > it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house > > > lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be > > > strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of > > > the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of > > > opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable > > > consequences. > > > > > > Regards, > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > ** neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology > > > *Sent:* Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide > > > or overdose of barbiturates. > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded > > > cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a " probable > > > suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the > > > circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some > > > conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories > > > suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > >> > > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > > >> > > >> They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > >> needs guts to kill himself. > > >> > > >> Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > >> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > >> take such a major step in Life. > > >> > > >> I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > > >> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > >> romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > >> > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > >> > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ y%40>, > > >> " Bhaskar " > > >> > > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > >> > > > >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > > >> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > >> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > > >> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > >> has > > >> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > >> > > > >> > regards, > > >> > > > >> > Bhaskar. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ y%40>, > > >> chiranjiv mehta > > >> > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > >> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only > > >> > thing associated with 8th house. > > >> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > >> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > >> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > > >> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > >> antihero. > > >> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > >> > circumstances. > > >> > > > > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > >> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ y%40> > > >> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >  > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > >> out > > >> > her life. > > >> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > > >> in > > >> > 8H!! > > >> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > >> > > > > >> > > Regards > > >> > > Neelam > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > Dear All, > > >> > > > > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > >> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > >> > expecting some practical demos. > > >> > > > > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > >> > > > > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > >> > > > > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > >> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > >> > > > > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > >> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > >> > > > > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > >> and > > >> > scandals! > > >> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > > >> > made by the 8H. > > >> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > >> > > > > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > >> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > >> > > > > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > >> > > > > >> > > All comments are welcome! > > >> > > > > >> > > Regards > > >> > > Neelam > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > >> > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > >  > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > >> > >  > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > >> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > >> that. > > >> > > >  > > >> > > > > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > >> > destruction. > > >> > > >  > > >> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which > > >> > nobody want to see. > > >> > > >  > > >> > > > > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > >> > > >  > > >> > > > Indian Kachua > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > >> > > > > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > >> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > >  > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Dear Freinds, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > >> as > > >> > a > > >> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > > >> > 2009 > > >> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > >> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > >> > > > retrograde both. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > >> > trikonas > > >> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ...and how > > >> > will > > >> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > >> will > > >> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > >> > > > > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > > >> do > > >> > not > > >> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > > >> . > > >> > > > > > >> > > > best wishes, > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > >> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/<http://downloads./in/internetexplorer/> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Renu Ji What you have to say for marriage two marka is involved with that. With Regards Suresh--- On Tue, 2/2/10, renunw <renunw wrote: renunw <renunw Re: House No. 8! Date: Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 3:58 PM Dear Chiranjiv ji,//Any planet in 2nd from own house is considered to be well placed.//I am somewhat confused with this...and have been pondering over it at times. Wouldn't any planet placed in 2nd from own house, act as a maraka to the aforesaid house?Can it be due to the fact that there is no hard and fast rule that a particular planet would play both the roles, good & bad?Hope you will explain..blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:>> Just a small aside ->  > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house is considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 planets in 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength.> > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM> > >  > > > > > > > Neelam Ji,>  > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!!>  > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >  > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > Nothing has been said with certainty.> > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting from a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI> > Regards> Neelam> > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > >  > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> take such a major step in Life.> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> has> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only> > thing associated with 8th house.> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> antihero.> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > circumstances.> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> out> > her life.> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> in> > 8H!!> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > expecting some practical demos.> > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> and> > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are> > made by the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > >> > > All comments are welcome!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > Â> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> that.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > destruction.> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which> > nobody want to see.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> as> > a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september> > 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how> > will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and> do> > not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested..> .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Renuji, True. But that is dictum i guess that we have to follow. I guess it is one of the Rajyogas. Conversely, any planet 12th from itself is considered weak. Thanks & Regards Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87 wrote: Suresh Awasthi <sureshawasthi87Re: Re: House No. 8! Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 4:44 PM Renu Ji What you have to say for marriage two marka is involved with that. With Regards Suresh--- On Tue, 2/2/10, renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: renunw <renunw (AT) (DOT) co.uk>[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, February 2, 2010, 3:58 PM Dear Chiranjiv ji,//Any planet in 2nd from own house is considered to be well placed.//I am somewhat confused with this...and have been pondering over it at times. Wouldn't any planet placed in 2nd from own house, act as a maraka to the aforesaid house?Can it be due to the fact that there is no hard and fast rule that a particular planet would play both the roles, good & bad?Hope you will explain..blessings,Renuancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv@ ...> wrote:>> Just a small aside ->  > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house is considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 planets in 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength.> > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...> wrote:> > > Manoj Chandran <chandran_manoj@ ...>> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM> > >  > > > > > > > Neelam Ji,>  > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!!>  > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences.>  > Regards,>  -Manoj>  > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >  > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > Nothing has been said with certainty.> > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting from a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI> > Regards> Neelam> > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote:> > >  > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> take such a major step in Life.> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> >> >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> has> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only> > thing associated with 8th house.> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> antihero.> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > circumstances.> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> out> > her life.> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> in> > 8H!!> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > expecting some practical demos.> > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> and> > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are> > made by the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > >> > > All comments are welcome!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > Â> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> that.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > destruction.> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which> > nobody want to see.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> as> > a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september> > 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how> > will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and> do> > not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested..> .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >> > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/> The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 I will say AMEN to that. But I am sure, our medical fraternity will find that unacceptable. They have to run the hospitals you see and make profits.Regards, Anita--- On Wed, 3/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: House No. 8! Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 7:22 AM Dear Anita ji, Yes I agree that till a mans hands and feet are workinga nd is able to move them, all doors are not locked... BUT to a man who is suffering from acute pain with aterminally dreadful disease and pronounced uncurable, who has become a dependant on machines, medicines and his family members who ahve to pay to keep him living with no hope, and just elongating his Life, and the man having to suffer unbearable pain, then "Euthnasia" or Voluntary suicide is acceptable, otherwise, in all cases I would consider as "Cowardly" and a "Weakness" though temporary one, but which results in "Fatal". best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, Anita R <ash.rsh55@. ..> wrote: > > Dear All, > a friend sent me the following sms the other day. Please go through it. > > In life, you might at some point, find that all doors are closed. At that point, please remember that ALL DOORS ARE NOT LOCKED. > Very true, would n't we all agree? > Love to every one. > Anita > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 5:30 PM >  > > > Dear Goel ji, > // //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.// > > This explanation is only a joke. // > Please justify how this is a joke, because Suicide is not a joke. It needs abnormal human strength of the will, to commit a suicide. > What is a serious explanation. Kindly enlighten. > Bhaskar. > >  > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskerji, > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > // > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > // > > > > I totally dis-agree with it. > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man. > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in > > the chart. > > > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > needs guts to kill himself.// > > > > This explanation is only a joke. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- - > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has > > life energy of Sun within. > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to > > live life at all condition. > > > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness > > my dear !. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- - > > > > Lal-Kitab says > > "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70" > > > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat > > meat. It destroys children. > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H. > > > > ------------ --------- --------- > > > > I have just put my thought > > > > Thankyou, > > Regards, > > Vijay Goel > > Jaipur. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was > > a > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > the > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > has > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > only > > > > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > effects > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > antihero. > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > > out > > > > her life. > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > > > in > > > > 8H!! > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > and > > > > scandals! > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > are > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > that. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > destruction. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > > which > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of > > VRY > > > > > >  > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > 2009 > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. > > Its > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > trikonas > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ...and > > how > > > > will > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > will > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and > > > do > > > > not > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in.. com/ > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji, Ha..ha...:-) //Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya...// Not only on this subject Sir but also for all other things about you like your knowledge sharing, your Marketing tacticts in post(s)( not all but in some posts) your honesty, etc i personally like and appreciate much. (much of your views and writings (Non-Astro) matches mine but i a m poor writer) and trying to learn which i feel is good. But i am also a brutally honest person hence i shared what i have been doing or gone through in Dasha of 8H. //This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily...// I completely agree with you...those facts in my prvious post are for genuine stduy purpose Now i myself wonder how i were able to manage those pints/Busy work multiple tasks/college life/flirting etc etc.. your advise has been taken with great SPIRIT (180ML)now onwards:-):-) Regards Chandu2Chill , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya... > // I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu > MD my intake > of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically)// > This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily... > > Rahu is what I am running now. Rahu was what you were running then. And > Rahu is what this CA gentleman who came to my place yesterday is running > now. (I mentioned about him in another mail, but did not mention that he > has started drinking daily now and in good quantities since his Rahu MD > started). > > Rahu does produce in a man the desire to intoxicate. > > but must say you are an expert in bringing out your chart somehow or > the other and keep it actively in discussion on these Groups. Haha. > Tussi gr8 ho ji. > > Cheers, and best wishes,' > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , " CP " <nanna_id2006@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Neelam Ji and All, > > > > I have all the Masala and practical life events to share for this > *House No 8* > > > > //8L in 9th would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. Suppose one inherits > some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to use it!! This is 8L > in 9th!// > > > > I have 8L (Mars) in 9H and enjoyed all the comforts and Luxurious life > Courtesy Father's Money, Business, Weath and Power.That too during 8L MD > education and in RAHU MD. Rahu is in my 8H entire Rahu MD was Excellent > > > > 1. Completed B'com graduation > > > > 2. Technical training on Servicing TVs father was running and > Electronics and Electrical shop > > > > 3. College life was vibrant with many girl friends even majority of > Girl band supporting me and my Gang in elections hence attracted attacks > and Lot of Street fights from my opponents But was successful in qushing > them. Note: I never initited any fights but used to give my opponents > fitting reply > > > > 4. Regular visits Temples, visited many Holy places in Karnataka > Andhra (Mantralaya) > > > > 5. Was working almost 24x7 mode College, Shop used to travel a lot for > sales (distribution business) within 4 Districts of Karnataka > > > > 6. 7-8 Accedents 2 were major but recovered fast. Interesting thing is > I never met with any accedent when i was Drunk and driving all accedents > happened when i was not drunk. i am mentioning this since all my friends > and even my Dad were Stunned about this my unique feature and were very > much comforatble and confident when i am driving the Car after the Night > -out Parties!! > > > > I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu MD > my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced > dratically) > > > > 7. Love Affairs 2 (Note: No Scandals:-):-)) > > 8. Casual and Physical relationships 4 > > 9. Foreign Travel > > 10. Foreign Job(s) > > 11. Last thing happened was The Marriage:-( > > > > Though My Father has 2 Properties now, Honestly i never inclined or > wish to get any inheritance i personally do not believe in that somehow. > Rather i am more inclined to Aquire my OWN Assets. > > > > Hope this will help in study and further research in Astrology > > > > Regards > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > , neelam gupta > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > The basic tenet is that trik lords when placed in kendra or kona > positions > > > do well for their houses but spoil the house they are posited in. 8L > in 9th > > > would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. > > > Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no > luck to > > > use it!! This is 8L in 9th! > > > > > > I know of such a case. A man has inherited huge property after the > death of > > > his father, but it is all old rented property givin meagre rent and > he has > > > had no luck with it! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 20:55, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small aside - > > > > > > > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house > is > > > > considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 > planets in > > > > 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the > cause (or > > > > drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > 8L has > > > > gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak > or else > > > > it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the > two house > > > > lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H > to be > > > > strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > fibre of > > > > the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, > plenty of > > > > opportunity to express this side of the personality with > predictable > > > > consequences. > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > ** neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > *Sent:* Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > suicide > > > > or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > recorded > > > > cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a > " probable > > > > suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the > > > > circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > found. Some > > > > conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other > theories > > > > suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > in<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > >> > > > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > >> > > > >> They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > cope > > > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > family > > > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > help > > > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit > suicide. One > > > >> needs guts to kill himself. > > > >> > > > >> Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > must > > > >> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in > order to > > > >> take such a major step in Life. > > > >> > > > >> I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe > who was a > > > >> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > >> romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > >> > > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ > y%40>, > > > >> " Bhaskar " > > > >> > > > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > >> > > > > >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > checking the > > > >> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > got > > > >> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > cannot > > > >> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in > movies. He > > > >> has > > > >> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > >> > > > > >> > regards, > > > >> > > > > >> > Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ > y%40>, > > > >> chiranjiv mehta > > > >> > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > >> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is > the only > > > >> > thing associated with 8th house. > > > >> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > also > > > >> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > >> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > effects > > > >> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > >> antihero. > > > >> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > >> > circumstances. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > >> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ > y%40> > > > >> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > through > > > >> out > > > >> > her life. > > > >> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup > and Jup > > > >> in > > > >> > 8H!! > > > >> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > >> > > Neelam > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > gmail.com> > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Dear All, > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are > fairly > > > >> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling > for and > > > >> > expecting some practical demos. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > authentic. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > >> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > >> > > > > > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > >> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > secrets > > > >> and > > > >> > scandals! > > > >> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > which are > > > >> > made by the 8H. > > > >> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > >> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > >> > > > > > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > All comments are welcome! > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > >> > > Neelam > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > in> > > > >> > wrote: > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > >> > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > Kachuaa > > > >> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will > see > > > >> that. > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > >> > destruction. > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > which > > > >> > nobody want to see. > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > of VRY > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > Indian Kachua > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > >> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >  > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Freinds, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > Horoscope > > > >> as > > > >> > a > > > >> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > september > > > >> > 2009 > > > >> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > Lagna. Its > > > >> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > and > > > >> > > > retrograde both. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > and > > > >> > trikonas > > > >> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > ..and how > > > >> > will > > > >> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > what > > > >> will > > > >> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > now... and > > > >> do > > > >> > not > > > >> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > interested.. > > > >> . > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > best wishes, > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar. > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Bhai Chandu 2 chill ji, Please do not take this as my advise for eternal use. I do not wish to land in any sin by such advise. I fear God. 180 ml only bcoz you have been accustomed to a greater dose. You must gradually within maximum 3 months time come to 150 ml. which is 2 and a half large ones. and when you find a lovely companion for yourself then it should be 120ml, which can be continued uptil some time, I dont mind. I do not believe in total abstinence from the joys of the world. So one must enjoy, till he can, in limits and when the call of the conscience is too Loud, drop it totally, for good. ( But abhi toh aap jawaan ho hamaari tarah). I also appreciate your wordings in this mail. You have written carefully, calculatedly so as not to give offence to me anywhere. I can sense this. Thank You. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " CP " <nanna_id2006 wrote: > > Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji, > > Ha..ha...:-) > > //Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya...// > > Not only on this subject Sir but also for all other things about you like your knowledge sharing, your Marketing tacticts in post(s)( not all but in some posts) your honesty, etc i personally like and appreciate much. (much of your views and writings (Non-Astro) matches mine but i a m poor writer) and trying to learn which i feel is good. But i am also a brutally honest person hence i shared what i have been doing or gone through in Dasha of 8H. > > //This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily...// > > I completely agree with you...those facts in my prvious post are for genuine stduy purpose Now i myself wonder how i were able to manage those pints/Busy work multiple tasks/college life/flirting etc etc.. > > your advise has been taken with great SPIRIT (180ML)now onwards:-):-) > > Regards > > Chandu2Chill > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya... > > > // I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu > > MD my intake > > of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically)// > > > This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not go more than 180ml if you take this daily... > > > > Rahu is what I am running now. Rahu was what you were running then. And > > Rahu is what this CA gentleman who came to my place yesterday is running > > now. (I mentioned about him in another mail, but did not mention that he > > has started drinking daily now and in good quantities since his Rahu MD > > started). > > > > Rahu does produce in a man the desire to intoxicate. > > > > but must say you are an expert in bringing out your chart somehow or > > the other and keep it actively in discussion on these Groups. Haha. > > Tussi gr8 ho ji. > > > > Cheers, and best wishes,' > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > , " CP " <nanna_id2006@> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Neelam Ji and All, > > > > > > I have all the Masala and practical life events to share for this > > *House No 8* > > > > > > //8L in 9th would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. Suppose one inherits > > some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to use it!! This is 8L > > in 9th!// > > > > > > I have 8L (Mars) in 9H and enjoyed all the comforts and Luxurious life > > Courtesy Father's Money, Business, Weath and Power.That too during 8L MD > > education and in RAHU MD. Rahu is in my 8H entire Rahu MD was Excellent > > > > > > 1. Completed B'com graduation > > > > > > 2. Technical training on Servicing TVs father was running and > > Electronics and Electrical shop > > > > > > 3. College life was vibrant with many girl friends even majority of > > Girl band supporting me and my Gang in elections hence attracted attacks > > and Lot of Street fights from my opponents But was successful in qushing > > them. Note: I never initited any fights but used to give my opponents > > fitting reply > > > > > > 4. Regular visits Temples, visited many Holy places in Karnataka > > Andhra (Mantralaya) > > > > > > 5. Was working almost 24x7 mode College, Shop used to travel a lot for > > sales (distribution business) within 4 Districts of Karnataka > > > > > > 6. 7-8 Accedents 2 were major but recovered fast. Interesting thing is > > I never met with any accedent when i was Drunk and driving all accedents > > happened when i was not drunk. i am mentioning this since all my friends > > and even my Dad were Stunned about this my unique feature and were very > > much comforatble and confident when i am driving the Car after the Night > > -out Parties!! > > > > > > I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my Rahu MD > > my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced > > dratically) > > > > > > 7. Love Affairs 2 (Note: No Scandals:-):-)) > > > 8. Casual and Physical relationships 4 > > > 9. Foreign Travel > > > 10. Foreign Job(s) > > > 11. Last thing happened was The Marriage:-( > > > > > > Though My Father has 2 Properties now, Honestly i never inclined or > > wish to get any inheritance i personally do not believe in that somehow. > > Rather i am more inclined to Aquire my OWN Assets. > > > > > > Hope this will help in study and further research in Astrology > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > The basic tenet is that trik lords when placed in kendra or kona > > positions > > > > do well for their houses but spoil the house they are posited in. 8L > > in 9th > > > > would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. > > > > Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has no > > luck to > > > > use it!! This is 8L in 9th! > > > > > > > > I know of such a case. A man has inherited huge property after the > > death of > > > > his father, but it is all old rented property givin meagre rent and > > he has > > > > had no luck with it! > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 20:55, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small aside - > > > > > > > > > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own house > > is > > > > > considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to 4 > > planets in > > > > > 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the > > cause (or > > > > > drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > 8L has > > > > > gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak > > or else > > > > > it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the > > two house > > > > > lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H > > to be > > > > > strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral > > fibre of > > > > > the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, > > plenty of > > > > > opportunity to express this side of the personality with > > predictable > > > > > consequences. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > ** neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > *Sent:* Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > suicide > > > > > or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > recorded > > > > > cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a > > " probable > > > > > suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the > > > > > circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > found. Some > > > > > conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other > > theories > > > > > suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > >> > > > > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > >> > > > > >> They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to > > cope > > > > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > family > > > > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to > > help > > > > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit > > suicide. One > > > > >> needs guts to kill himself. > > > > >> > > > > >> Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One > > must > > > > >> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in > > order to > > > > >> take such a major step in Life. > > > > >> > > > > >> I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe > > who was a > > > > >> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > > >> romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > >> > > > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ \ > > y%40>, > > > > >> " Bhaskar " > > > > >> > > > > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > checking the > > > > >> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have > > got > > > > >> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > >> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in > > movies. He > > > > >> has > > > > >> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > regards, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ \ > > y%40>, > > > > >> chiranjiv mehta > > > > >> > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > >> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is > > the only > > > > >> > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > >> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am > > also > > > > >> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > >> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > effects > > > > >> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > > >> antihero. > > > > >> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > >> > circumstances. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > >> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ \ > > y%40> > > > > >> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas > > through > > > > >> out > > > > >> > her life. > > > > >> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup > > and Jup > > > > >> in > > > > >> > 8H!! > > > > >> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > > >> > > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > gmail.com> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Dear All, > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are > > fairly > > > > >> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling > > for and > > > > >> > expecting some practical demos. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > > authentic. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > >> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > >> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > secrets > > > > >> and > > > > >> > scandals! > > > > >> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > > which are > > > > >> > made by the 8H. > > > > >> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > >> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > All comments are welcome! > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > > >> > > Neelam > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >> > >  > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian > > Kachuaa > > > > >> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will > > see > > > > >> that. > > > > >> > > >  > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > >> > destruction. > > > > >> > > >  > > > > >> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and > > which > > > > >> > nobody want to see. > > > > >> > > >  > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification > > of VRY > > > > >> > > >  > > > > >> > > > Indian Kachua > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > >> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > Horoscope > > > > >> as > > > > >> > a > > > > >> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > >> > 2009 > > > > >> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > Lagna. Its > > > > >> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated > > and > > > > >> > > > retrograde both. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras > > and > > > > >> > trikonas > > > > >> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here > > ..and how > > > > >> > will > > > > >> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me > > what > > > > >> will > > > > >> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > > now... and > > > > >> do > > > > >> > not > > > > >> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > > >> . > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > best wishes, > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji,AB has number of planets in 8H with exal8L in MT.11L of titles/success/ friends and 2nL of wealth is exalted in 6H service/job who is also karaka for wealth as well as 2/11houses!!L/L from 4H of comfirt in a friend's house is aspg jup,10H and lagna.10L of karma/profession in the nakshatra of moon in 9H of luck as 6L of job/service while moon is in the nakshatra of Rahu in 7H of position giver in Leo the royal sign while the dispositor is with 10L along with Yk and exal 5/8L..These are the important factors for his rise and also make good money even after loosing it!!Love and regards,gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> > 11th October 1942> > 4.00pm Allahabad.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > , Manoj Chandran> chandran_manoj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu Ji (or any one else),> >> > Could you please post Bacchan's birth data?> > Â> > Regards,> >  -Manoj> > Â> >> >> >> >> > ________________________________> > renunw renunw@> > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 11:25:35 AM> > Re: House No. 8!> >> > Â> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > // why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also achieve> good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the 8th...//> >> > Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji.> >> > ..//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture unfolds.> it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the> innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, two> exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these> four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total> picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The> Navamsha confirms it,//> >> > What are the yogas formed in 8H?> >> > 1. 10L Mars + 5L Me> > 2. 7L Sun + 5L Me> > 3. 4L Venus + 5L Me> > 4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga> > 5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun> > 6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha]> >> > Have I missed anything.... .then someone please continue..> >> > blessings,> >> > Renu> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Vijay Goel ji,> > >> > > Good.> > >> > > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise> to> > > such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even though> he> > > has 4 planets placed in the 8th...> > >> > > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life....> > >> > > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house> or> > > its Lord is not always bad.> > >> > > regards/Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> > > <goyalvj@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Manojji,> > > >> > > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > > >> > > > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H.> > > >> > > > Thankyou,> > > > Best Wishes,> > > > Vijay Goel> > > > Jaipur.> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj Chandran> > > chandran_manoj@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Neelam Ji,> > > > >> > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the> cause> > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is> dreaded.> > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be> > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we> need> > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits:> namely> > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity> !!!> > > > >> > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral> > > fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in> continuious> > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the> > > personality with predictable consequences.> > > > > Â> > > > > Regards,> > > > >  -Manoj> > > > > Â> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __> > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could> be> > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates.> > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty.> > > > >> > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office> > > recorded cause of death as "acute barbiturate poisoning," resulting> from> > > a "probable suicide". Many theories, including murder, circulated> about> > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was> > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy,> while> > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Neelam> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co.> in>> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > > > > >> > > > > >Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > > > >> > > > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able> to> > > cope> > > > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close> > > family> > > > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society> to> > > help> > > > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit> suicide.> > > One> > > > > >needs guts to kill himself.> > > > > >> > > > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this.> One> > > must> > > > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in> order> > > to> > > > > >take such a major step in Life.> > > > > >> > > > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe> who> > > was a> > > > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them> to> > > > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > > > > >> > > > > >regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > > >> > > > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > > > > >>> > > > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start> > > checking the> > > > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them> have> > > got> > > > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods.> One> > > cannot> > > > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in> movies.> > > He> > > > > >has> > > > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > > > > >>> > > > > >> regards,> > > > > >>> > > > > >> Bhaskar.> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv> > > mehta> > > > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is> the> > > only> > > > > >> thing associated with 8th house.> > > > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i> am> > > also> > > > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not> expressing VRY well.> > > Its effects> > > > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > > > > >antihero.> > > > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong inÂ> adverse> > > > > >> circumstances.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Â> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas> > > through> > > > > >out> > > > > >> her life.> > > > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup> and> > > Jup> > > > > >in> > > > > >> 8H!!> > > > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Regards> > > > > >> > Neelam> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> > > gmail.com>> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Dear All,> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are> fairly> > > > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling> for> > > and> > > > > >> expecting some practical demos.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is> authentic.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed> down> > > > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of> > > secrets> > > > > >and> > > > > >> scandals!> > > > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend> which> > > are> > > > > >> made by the 8H.> > > > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > All comments are welcome!> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Regards> > > > > >> > Neelam> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> .co.> > > in>> > > > > >> wrote:> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Â> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > > > >> > Â> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian> > > Kachuaa> > > > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will> see> > > > > >that.> > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚Â> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > > > >> destruction.> > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚Â> > > > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or> > > PowerÃÆ'‚ and which> > > > > >> nobody want to see.> > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚Â> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of> frutification> > > of VRY> > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚Â> > > > > >> > > Indian Kachua> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚Â> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Dear Freinds,> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my> > > Horoscope> > > > > >as> > > > > >> a> > > > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> > > september> > > > > >> 2009> > > > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my> > > Lagna. Its> > > > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is> debilitated> > > and> > > > > >> > > retrograde both.> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in> kendras> > > and> > > > > >> trikonas> > > > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here> > > ..and how> > > > > >> will> > > > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me> > > what> > > > > >will> > > > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material> now...> > > and> > > > > >do> > > > > >> not> > > > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> > > interested..> > > > > >.> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > best wishes,> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> > > Bhaskar.> > > > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji, Thank you for your mail. Nothing to worry i just mentioned as YOUR Advise in a lighter vein.. rest assured i know it is always *Buyer Beware* and your advise i.e. asking to reduce from 540ml to 180ml will surely get you Punya not Sin:-) With regards Chandu2Chill , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhai Chandu 2 chill ji, > Please do not take this as my advise for eternal use. I do not wish to land in any sin by such advise. I fear God. > > 180 ml only bcoz you have been accustomed to a greater dose. You must > gradually within maximum 3 months time come to 150 ml. which is 2 and a > half large ones. and when you find a lovely companion for yourself then > it should be 120ml, which can be continued uptil some time, I dont mind. > > I do not believe in total abstinence from the joys of the world. So one > must enjoy, till he can, in limits and when the call of the conscience > is too Loud, drop it totally, for good. ( But abhi toh aap jawaan ho > hamaari tarah). > > I also appreciate your wordings in this mail. You have written > carefully, calculatedly so as not to give offence to me anywhere. I can > sense this. Thank You. > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > , " CP " <nanna_id2006@> > wrote: > > > > Dear Shri Bhaskar Ji, > > > > Ha..ha...:-) > > > > //Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya...// > > > > Not only on this subject Sir but also for all other things about you > like your knowledge sharing, your Marketing tacticts in post(s)( not all > but in some posts) your honesty, etc i personally like and appreciate > much. (much of your views and writings (Non-Astro) matches mine but i a > m poor writer) and trying to learn which i feel is good. But i am also a > brutally honest person hence i shared what i have been doing or gone > through in Dasha of 8H. > > > > //This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must > not go more than 180ml if you take this daily...// > > > > I completely agree with you...those facts in my prvious post are for > genuine stduy purpose Now i myself wonder how i were able to manage > those pints/Busy work multiple tasks/college life/flirting etc etc.. > > > > your advise has been taken with great SPIRIT (180ML)now onwards:-):-) > > > > Regards > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Bhaskar trendsetter hai, aapne prove kar diya... > > > > > // I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my > Rahu > > > MD my intake > > > of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced dratically)// > > > > > This is half a Bottle my Dear. Not right by any means.... One must not > go more than 180ml if you take this daily... > > > > > > Rahu is what I am running now. Rahu was what you were running then. > And > > > Rahu is what this CA gentleman who came to my place yesterday is > running > > > now. (I mentioned about him in another mail, but did not mention > that he > > > has started drinking daily now and in good quantities since his Rahu > MD > > > started). > > > > > > Rahu does produce in a man the desire to intoxicate. > > > > > > but must say you are an expert in bringing out your chart somehow or > > > the other and keep it actively in discussion on these Groups. Haha. > > > Tussi gr8 ho ji. > > > > > > Cheers, and best wishes,' > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " CP " > <nanna_id2006@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam Ji and All, > > > > > > > > I have all the Masala and practical life events to share for this > > > *House No 8* > > > > > > > > //8L in 9th would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. Suppose one > inherits > > > some wealth when his father dies, but has no luck to use it!! This > is 8L > > > in 9th!// > > > > > > > > I have 8L (Mars) in 9H and enjoyed all the comforts and Luxurious > life > > > Courtesy Father's Money, Business, Weath and Power.That too during > 8L MD > > > education and in RAHU MD. Rahu is in my 8H entire Rahu MD was > Excellent > > > > > > > > 1. Completed B'com graduation > > > > > > > > 2. Technical training on Servicing TVs father was running and > > > Electronics and Electrical shop > > > > > > > > 3. College life was vibrant with many girl friends even majority > of > > > Girl band supporting me and my Gang in elections hence attracted > attacks > > > and Lot of Street fights from my opponents But was successful in > qushing > > > them. Note: I never initited any fights but used to give my > opponents > > > fitting reply > > > > > > > > 4. Regular visits Temples, visited many Holy places in Karnataka > > > Andhra (Mantralaya) > > > > > > > > 5. Was working almost 24x7 mode College, Shop used to travel a lot > for > > > sales (distribution business) within 4 Districts of Karnataka > > > > > > > > 6. 7-8 Accedents 2 were major but recovered fast. Interesting > thing is > > > I never met with any accedent when i was Drunk and driving all > accedents > > > happened when i was not drunk. i am mentioning this since all my > friends > > > and even my Dad were Stunned about this my unique feature and were > very > > > much comforatble and confident when i am driving the Car after the > Night > > > -out Parties!! > > > > > > > > I used to be very Active and Alert I don't know How? during my > Rahu MD > > > my intake of Alcohol was Min 540ML (3x180ML) Whisky (Now reduced > > > dratically) > > > > > > > > 7. Love Affairs 2 (Note: No Scandals:-):-)) > > > > 8. Casual and Physical relationships 4 > > > > 9. Foreign Travel > > > > 10. Foreign Job(s) > > > > 11. Last thing happened was The Marriage:-( > > > > > > > > Though My Father has 2 Properties now, Honestly i never inclined > or > > > wish to get any inheritance i personally do not believe in that > somehow. > > > Rather i am more inclined to Aquire my OWN Assets. > > > > > > > > Hope this will help in study and further research in Astrology > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Chandu2Chill > > > > > > > > > > > > , neelam gupta > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > > > The basic tenet is that trik lords when placed in kendra or kona > > > positions > > > > > do well for their houses but spoil the house they are posited > in. 8L > > > in 9th > > > > > would be good for 8H but bad for 9H. > > > > > Suppose one inherits some wealth when his father dies, but has > no > > > luck to > > > > > use it!! This is 8L in 9th! > > > > > > > > > > I know of such a case. A man has inherited huge property after > the > > > death of > > > > > his father, but it is all old rented property givin meagre rent > and > > > he has > > > > > had no luck with it! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 20:55, chiranjiv mehta vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Just a small aside - > > > > > > > > > > > > What if 8th lord is in the 9th ? Any planet in 2nd from own > house > > > is > > > > > > considered to be well placed. I think Mahatma Gandhi had 3 to > 4 > > > planets in > > > > > > 2nd from their own house and that was cited as strength. > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On *Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@* wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > > > > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 8:40 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the > > > cause (or > > > > > > drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is > dreaded. > > > 8L has > > > > > > gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > weak > > > or else > > > > > > it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need > the > > > two house > > > > > > lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H > and 9H > > > to be > > > > > > strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic > moral > > > fibre of > > > > > > the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > activation, > > > plenty of > > > > > > opportunity to express this side of the personality with > > > predictable > > > > > > consequences. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > -Manoj > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > > > > > ** neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > > > *To:* ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > *Sent:* Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > > *Subject:* Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could > be > > > suicide > > > > > > or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > recorded > > > > > > cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting > from a > > > " probable > > > > > > suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > the > > > > > > circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > found. Some > > > > > > conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > other > > > theories > > > > > > suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > > in<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been > able to > > > cope > > > > > >> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > > family > > > > > >> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from > society to > > > help > > > > > >> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit > > > suicide. One > > > > > >> needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. > One > > > must > > > > > >> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in > > > order to > > > > > >> take such a major step in Life. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn > Monroe > > > who was a > > > > > >> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in > them to > > > > > >> romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > >> > > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > > > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ > \ > > > y%40>, > > > > > >> " Bhaskar " > > > > > >> > > > > > >> <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > > checking the > > > > > >> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them > have > > > got > > > > > >> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. > One > > > cannot > > > > > >> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in > > > movies. He > > > > > >> has > > > > > >> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > regards, > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > Bhaskar. > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > > > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ > \ > > > y%40>, > > > > > >> chiranjiv mehta > > > > > >> > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > >> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that > is > > > the only > > > > > >> > thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > >> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i > am > > > also > > > > > >> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be > something. > > > > > >> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. > Its > > > effects > > > > > >> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is > an > > > > > >> antihero. > > > > > >> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in > adverse > > > > > >> > circumstances. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > >> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . > > > > com<http://in.mc946.mail./mc/compose?to=ancient_indian_astrolog\ > \ > > > y%40> > > > > > >> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H > dashas > > > through > > > > > >> out > > > > > >> > her life. > > > > > >> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of > Jup > > > and Jup > > > > > >> in > > > > > >> > 8H!! > > > > > >> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > > > >> > > Neelam > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > gmail.com> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Dear All, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are > > > fairly > > > > > >> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was > calling > > > for and > > > > > >> > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > > > authentic. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > >> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed > down > > > > > >> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > > secrets > > > > > >> and > > > > > >> > scandals! > > > > > >> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > > > which are > > > > > >> > made by the 8H. > > > > > >> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H > again? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > >> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Regards > > > > > >> > > Neelam > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > .co. > > > in> > > > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > >> > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, > Indian > > > Kachuaa > > > > > >> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who > will > > > see > > > > > >> that. > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to > strong > > > > > >> > destruction. > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power > and > > > which > > > > > >> > nobody want to see. > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of > frutification > > > of VRY > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > >> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > >  > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > > Horoscope > > > > > >> as > > > > > >> > a > > > > > >> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > september > > > > > >> > 2009 > > > > > >> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > > Lagna. Its > > > > > >> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is > debilitated > > > and > > > > > >> > > > retrograde both. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in > kendras > > > and > > > > > >> > trikonas > > > > > >> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 hare ram,i am new to this community.i am a person who would like to know about our ancient culture and the wonderful subject of ancient india-astrology.i would like to know more about it from the basics in a simple way.i hope any member who is well versed in this would help me.--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: House No. 8! Date: Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 5:28 PM Dear Vijay Goel ji, // This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in the chart.// Pl. justify this, not by proclamations, but by hard evidence. Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel" <goyalvj wrote:>> Dear Bhaskerji,> > Hare Rama Krsna,> > //> Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> //> > I totally dis-agree with it.> This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.> This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in> the chart.> > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.//> > This explanation is only a joke.> > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has> life energy of Sun within.> Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to> live life at all condition.> > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness> my dear !.> > ------------ --------- --------- -> > Lal-Kitab says> "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka> hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"> > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> meat. It destroys children.> Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.> > ------------ --------- ---------> > I have just put my thought > > Thankyou,> Regards,> Vijay Goel> Jaipur.> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> >> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> >> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> > needs guts to kill himself.> >> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> > take such a major step in Life.> >> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was> a> > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > >> > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking> the> > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> cannot> > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> > has> > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> only> > > thing associated with 8th house.> > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its> effects> > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > antihero.> > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > > circumstances.> > > >> > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> > out> > > her life.> > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> > in> > > 8H!!> > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > > expecting some practical demos.> > > >> > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > > >> > > > BT: 1..6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > >> > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > >> > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > >> > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> > and> > > scandals!> > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which> are> > > made by the 8H.> > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > >> > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > >> > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > >> > > > All comments are welcome!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > > Â> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> > that.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > destruction.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and> which> > > nobody want to see.> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of> VRY> > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > > >> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com> > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ÂÂ> > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > >> > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> > as> > > a> > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> september> > > 2009> > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna.> Its> > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > > retrograde both.> > > > >> > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > >> > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > > trikonas> > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > >> > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and> how> > > will> > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > >> > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> > will> > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > >> > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now...> and> > do> > > not> > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> interested..> > .> > > > >> > > > > best wishes,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > >> > >> >> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 ########## This is rubbish talking and not astrology. ########## Dont speak like this for real astrology and ancient works of Maharishish. ENJOY THE REAL ASTROLOGY - 1. JP - Sloka 54 - Chapter 14 If the lord of the 8'th bhava occupy the 6'th, 8'th or the 12'th bhava, the astrologer may predict the demise of the person concerned with conjunction of it 2. JP - Sloka 83 - Chapter 15 If the 12'th Bhava, with Sa and Ra or Ke in it,is occupied by the lord of the 8'th bhava or aspected by the lord of the 6'th, the person born goes to hell. 3. JP - Sloka 76 - Chapter 15 When a malefic planet owning the 6'th or the 8'th bhava occupies the 12'th bhava in strength, the person born will lose his status in regard to agricu;ture and monetary transactions, and will suffer total loss of all servants and cattle. 4. Jataka Ratna 74-79 & 82 & 83 and Jataka Bharnam When the planet in the 12'th bhava owns as well as occupies a moveable sign, or is the lord of dusthana or is in conjunction with or aspected by Sa, the person born will indeed have to roam over many lands and forest regions. 5. JP - Sloka 77 - Chapter 13 If malefic planet appear in the 8'th associated with the lord of 6'th, the person concerned will suffer from pain in the anus. 6. Jataka Bharnam and JP JP - Sloka 48 - Chapter 14 If the lord of the 8'th bhava being associated with a malefic planet occupy the 12'th or the 6'th bhava, the person concerned will be short-lived.The same effect is produced when the lord of the 8'th bhava belng weak happens to be associated with the lord of the lagna of the two bhavas above - named( the 6'th or 12'th) 7. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam " Papsche shatru vriddhischa tasmat deha vranani cha " If a malific is in 6'th house, there is growth of enemies and also injuries on bodies. 8. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam Vyaeshe Rog Rashiisthe Tadishe Vyarashige ... Gulma Rogam Vinirdishet. If 6'th lord in 12'th and 12'th lord in 6'th, gulma roga happens. 9. SatyaJatak by Satyacharya, Page 113 " Ashtmeshe tu Shastasthe ShatruBadha Bhavishyati " " Chinta Bhayam Manaha Kleshah Sahatrudwara Bhavanti hi " If 8'th lord is placed in 6'th house, Shatru Badha, mental worries and huge sufferings happens. 10. Sarvarth Chintamani, Shloka no 93, Shasth Bhava Vicharah " Shasteshe Ashtameshe Bhaume Va Vikramesh Smanvate, Mand Mandi Gu Samyukte Kruranshe Udhato Mritah " If 6'th lord is conjunct with 8'th lord or with sat, mandi or gulika or in krur navamsa,native dies in a war. 11. Jiva Natha, shloka 23, Bhava Vichara " Rogesho lagnago yasya nidhan astho api janmani, vranodyastu sarvange sapapo na vranam dishet " . If 6'th lord in lagna or in 8'th there is scars of injuri in whole body. Indian Kachuaa , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > , Indian Kachuaa > <indian_kachua@> wrote: > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that. > >  > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction. > >  > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody > want to see. > >  > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > >  > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > retrograde both. > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > trikonas > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > will > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > not > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. . > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Kachua ji, There is another world outside the water too. Please come out and see. What you have produced, is too less. I can produce another 20 such shlokas. But we are not speaking about the old age of Amitabh Bacchan or the problems which he faced in his Life till date. We are speaking of the Raj Yogas he has in his chart and why. So just show us whether you have any good stuff related to the 6th and 8th house, like VRY, or Neechbhanga Raj Yoga, or any other. If you do not have this, then what you are producing is not what we want to read. And please introduce yourself, because tuomorrow someone will come in id of " Indian Kechua " and expect us to argue with his arguments, and I am not comfortable in discussing or explaining or exchanging any ideas with such ids, more so when the initial mail of yours has displayed the depth of your understanding. Now if you want me to produce shlokas of what good the Maharishis have said about 6th, 8th and 12th combinations, then I am not going to do this, for I expect and assume that already everyone knows this here, and we are just discussing, and not interested in producing copy paste shlokas, which just anybody can do. Bhaskar. , " indian_kachua " <indian_kachua wrote: > > ########## > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > ########## > > Dont speak like this for real astrology and ancient works of Maharishish. > > ENJOY THE REAL ASTROLOGY - > > 1. JP - Sloka 54 - Chapter 14 > > If the lord of the 8'th bhava occupy the 6'th, 8'th or the 12'th bhava, the astrologer may predict the demise of the person concerned with conjunction of it > > 2. JP - Sloka 83 - Chapter 15 > > If the 12'th Bhava, with Sa and Ra or Ke in it,is occupied by the lord of the 8'th bhava or aspected by the lord of the 6'th, the person born goes to hell. > > > 3. JP - Sloka 76 - Chapter 15 > > When a malefic planet owning the 6'th or the 8'th bhava occupies the 12'th bhava in strength, the person born will lose his status in regard to agricu;ture and monetary transactions, and will suffer total loss of all servants and cattle. > > 4. Jataka Ratna 74-79 & 82 & 83 and Jataka Bharnam > > When the planet in the 12'th bhava owns as well as occupies a moveable sign, or is the lord of dusthana or is in conjunction with or aspected by Sa, the person born will indeed have to roam over many lands and forest regions. > > 5. JP - Sloka 77 - Chapter 13 > > If malefic planet appear in the 8'th associated with the lord of 6'th, the person concerned will suffer from pain in the anus. > > 6. Jataka Bharnam and JP JP - Sloka 48 - Chapter 14 > > If the lord of the 8'th bhava being associated with a malefic planet occupy the 12'th or the 6'th bhava, the person concerned will be short-lived.The same effect is produced when the lord of the 8'th bhava belng weak happens to be associated with the lord of the lagna of the two bhavas above - named( the 6'th or 12'th) > > 7. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam > > " Papsche shatru vriddhischa tasmat deha vranani cha " > > > If a malific is in 6'th house, there is growth of enemies and also injuries on bodies. > > > 8. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam > > Vyaeshe Rog Rashiisthe Tadishe Vyarashige ... Gulma Rogam Vinirdishet. > > If 6'th lord in 12'th and 12'th lord in 6'th, gulma roga happens. > > > 9. SatyaJatak by Satyacharya, Page 113 > > " Ashtmeshe tu Shastasthe ShatruBadha Bhavishyati " > " Chinta Bhayam Manaha Kleshah Sahatrudwara Bhavanti hi " > > If 8'th lord is placed in 6'th house, Shatru Badha, mental worries and huge sufferings happens. > > > 10. Sarvarth Chintamani, Shloka no 93, Shasth Bhava Vicharah > > " Shasteshe Ashtameshe Bhaume Va Vikramesh Smanvate, Mand Mandi Gu Samyukte Kruranshe Udhato Mritah " > > If 6'th lord is conjunct with 8'th lord or with sat, mandi or gulika or in krur navamsa,native dies in a war. > > > 11. Jiva Natha, shloka 23, Bhava Vichara > > > " Rogesho lagnago yasya nidhan astho api janmani, vranodyastu sarvange sapapo na vranam dishet " . > > > If 6'th lord in lagna or in 8'th there is scars of injuri in whole body. > > Indian Kachuaa > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > > > > > > , Indian Kachuaa > > <indian_kachua@> wrote: > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that. > > >  > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction. > > >  > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody > > want to see. > > >  > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > >  > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > trikonas > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > will > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > > not > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 May I attempt - Juptier Dasha - so going my teachings of Neelam ji and KN Rao, Jupiter becomes extremely important. Sixth house Jupiter, debilitated yet retrograde lord of the 8th House - from the 8th house it is the 11th. which will confer gains through means of Guru (knowledge). In Capricorn, it would indicate practical knowledge, knowledge which actually works in Kali Yuga, retrograde indicates differing from the norms of common practiced jyotish (knowledge). Here, Sthana-Kala-Patra becomes important. The native is an astrologer by profession so he would gain by knowledge (jyotish course/teaching) of hidden science (jyotish) and in turn serve society. Jupiter rules fat, Capricorn knees, Pisces feet. He might tend to gain weight and may face issues in his legs. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Shri Chiranjiv Bhai. > > I am going to be a little strict now, so now please do not mind at all.. > > I also first thank you for making a good attempt to delineating this. > Those who have the power to jump in the water will some day learn > swimming, and when they learn to go deeper, would someday find the > pearls too... (I just created this and now going to put on my face > book..sounds nice)... > > // Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > maternal uncles.// > > Boss where is the predictions here ? If I say this to somebody who comes > to me as a client with his chart, he will have a problem in paying me my > Fees, and so will I have in accepting, for I have offered him nothing in > essence. What will happen, and when will it happen is required to be > told. > > By the way there cannot be any sudden because a strong Sturn is > associated who is not a planet of suddenness. > > But transformations will certainly take place, the why and when I will > let you know later, and how and what I will leave it for the readers to > study and tell me, if they can. No spoon feeding here. > > // In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures.// > > Why in proper senses would I first go and spend my time in > finding/digging old treasures Sir, and where ??? God has given us hands > and brains, we should use them with hard work and labour to earn our > bread and butter, and do not want anything for free. > > But suppose I had really gone to find/dig for hidden treasures, I would > have really found them. Why ? Because the 6th house is the house of > receipt, thats why. And if the 8th is associated with is then all > significations of the 8th will come to me if I search for them... > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > , chiranjiv mehta > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > >  > > Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > maternal uncles. > > In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. > > In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps deliver > the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is placed in > natal chart. > >  > > Waiting for your feedback. > >  > >  > > Thanks & Regards  > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > retrograde both. > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > trikonas > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > will > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > not > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. . > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in./ > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Sir, If they don't know about our great heritage, not even heard about Vishudanada Ji, Kaviraj Gopinath Ji, etc. Who is to be blamed for it? Should we also shirk from our responsibilty. RegardsKulbir Bains chiranjiv mehta <vchiranjiv Sent: Wed, 3 February, 2010 2:15:47 AMRe: Re: House No. 8! Dear Kulbirji, I do not know about this sage but...... The current generation does not know much about Samadhi taken bu a Sanyasi. My old school friend had gone to the Samadhi of a saint and came back asking me ... why do these guys commit sucide ?? So no use talking about it.Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Tue, 2/2/10, Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb > wrote: Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb >Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!ancient_indian_ astrologyTuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:43 PM Dear Goel ji, There has been a sage called KESHKAMBAL who strongly advocated suicide. Kindly read about him. RegardsKulbir Bains vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 8:56:16 AM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Bhaskerji,Hare Rama Krsna,//Suicides cannot be done by weak people....Only the strong can commit suicides.//I totally dis-agree with it.This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and Sun in the chart..//They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One needs guts to kill himself.//This explanation is only a joke.------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has life energy of Sun within.Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they inspire to live life at all condition.Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your consciousness my dear !. ------------ --------- --------- -Lal-Kitab says "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat meat. It destroys children.Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.------------ --------- ---------I have just put my thought :)Thankyou,Regards,Vijay GoelJaipur.ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope> with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help> them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One> needs guts to kill himself.> > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must> have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to> take such a major step in Life.> > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a> darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> romance with this beautiful lady of her times.> > regards/Bhaskar.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> >> > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the> > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got> > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot> > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He> has> > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> >> > regards,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta> > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > >> > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only> > thing associated with 8th house.> > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also> > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects> > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> antihero.> > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > circumstances.> > >> > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > >> > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through> out> > her life.> > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup> in> > 8H!!> > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com>> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and> > expecting some practical demos.> > >> > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic.> > >> > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > >> > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > >> > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > >> > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets> and> > scandals!> > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are> > made by the 8H.> > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > >> > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > >> > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > >> > > All comments are welcome!> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in>> > wrote:> > >> > >> > > Â> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > Â> > >> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa> > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see> that...> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > destruction.> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which> > nobody want to see.> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY> > > > ÂÂ> > > > Indian Kachua> > > >> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > >> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > >> > > >> > > > ÂÂ> > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Freinds,> > > >> > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope> as> > a> > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september> > 2009> > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its> > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and> > > > retrograde both.> > > >> > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > >> > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and> > trikonas> > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > >> > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how> > will> > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > >> > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what> will> > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > >> > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and> do> > not> > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested..> .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > >> >> Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji,Jupiter is 5/8 lord. 5H for children and 8H for their happiness/sukh. Jup in second from 5th is adding on to child's family and in 11th from 8H is adding on to the bliss. This can mean marriage/child birth for the child, specially the eldest child. We may check saptamsha to confirm. What was it? Do we find Ju or Ven in action for the child? I hope learned members cn work out! :-) But, while the children are happy, father himself is a little worried and in suspense? 8H effect? RegardsNeelamOn 3 February 2010 22:33, Satya <satyabhama_gupta_1980 wrote: May I attempt - Juptier Dasha - so going my teachings of Neelam ji and KN Rao, Jupiter becomes extremely important. Sixth house Jupiter, debilitated yet retrograde lord of the 8th House - from the 8th house it is the 11th. which will confer gains through means of Guru (knowledge). In Capricorn, it would indicate practical knowledge, knowledge which actually works in Kali Yuga, retrograde indicates differing from the norms of common practiced jyotish (knowledge). Here, Sthana-Kala-Patra becomes important. The native is an astrologer by profession so he would gain by knowledge (jyotish course/teaching) of hidden science (jyotish) and in turn serve society. Jupiter rules fat, Capricorn knees, Pisces feet. He might tend to gain weight and may face issues in his legs. , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Shri Chiranjiv Bhai. > > I am going to be a little strict now, so now please do not mind at all.. > > I also first thank you for making a good attempt to delineating this. > Those who have the power to jump in the water will some day learn > swimming, and when they learn to go deeper, would someday find the > pearls too... (I just created this and now going to put on my face > book..sounds nice)... > > // Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > maternal uncles.// > > Boss where is the predictions here ? If I say this to somebody who comes > to me as a client with his chart, he will have a problem in paying me my > Fees, and so will I have in accepting, for I have offered him nothing in > essence. What will happen, and when will it happen is required to be > told. > > By the way there cannot be any sudden because a strong Sturn is > associated who is not a planet of suddenness. > > But transformations will certainly take place, the why and when I will > let you know later, and how and what I will leave it for the readers to > study and tell me, if they can. No spoon feeding here. > > // In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures.// > > Why in proper senses would I first go and spend my time in > finding/digging old treasures Sir, and where ??? God has given us hands > and brains, we should use them with hard work and labour to earn our > bread and butter, and do not want anything for free. > > But suppose I had really gone to find/dig for hidden treasures, I would > have really found them. Why ? Because the 6th house is the house of > receipt, thats why. And if the 8th is associated with is then all > significations of the 8th will come to me if I search for them... > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > , chiranjiv mehta > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > >  > > Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > maternal uncles. > > In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. > > In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps deliver > the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is placed in > natal chart. > >  > > Waiting for your feedback. > >  > >  > > Thanks & Regards  > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > retrograde both. > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > trikonas > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > will > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > not > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. . > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in./ > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Goel Ji, for studing kamikaze you will have to go far enough to japanese culture. I am making your job easier. you reside at Jaipur. What are your thoughts about JAUHAR. RegardsKulbir Bains Lalkitab Kb <lalkitabkb Sent: Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:10:20 PMRe: Re: House No. 8! Dear Goel ji, What do you have to say about Kamikaze Lets discuss it on forum, I don't require any preferential treatment. RegardsKulbir Bains vijay.goel <goyalvj (AT) gmail (DOT) com>ancient_indian_ astrologyTue, 2 February, 2010 6:00:30 PM[ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! Dear Kulbir bhai,//> I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend fromlalkitab groups.Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forwardby me, their last resort is my horoscope.//I never discuss any personal horoscope in the forum. It is respected Bhaskerji who has presented his own horoscope in this thread, please see previous post.Secondly whenever i write i only focus on the horoscope.------------ --------- --------- ------Whenever anybody says (not only astrologer) that suicide is the act of bravery that i am against that statement not against him.I will always say suicide is the act of cowardice, an act of murder of self, anytime, anywhere.!Astrologer is Karak for Jupiter and owns the knowledge given by Sun and Moon, (all karak for lagna and body) which are source of light.Atleast how he is going to show the path of malefic saturn and turning 8H negative, curtailing longetivity.------------ --------- --------- ------I donot have much time as i have to rush to Delhi, but i will certainly explain you logics behind it over phone. Bhasker is respected by me and he know it well, we can have sweet confrontation over thought, don't worry :)His post on KP is one of the brilliant writing i always admire through my heart. ------------ --------- --------- ------Thankyou,Best Wishes,Vijay Goelancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Kulbir ji,> > The statement which he put up regards to the position of the Sun in> 11th, is a very basic remedial measure for Lalkitab, which I learnt 25> years ago, while studying this great Book.> > I had also put this same statement about 3 months ago (About alochol> with Sun in 11th), so it was nothing new to me, and could not understand> why this statement should be attributed to me when there was no context> requisiting the same... It was not in good taste.> > When I keep away from the mediocore and their postongs, why should they> challnge me for exchanges which will end up in their himiliations and> not mines, because I am very straightforward, transparent and do not> fear anybody other than God.> > Personal Chart is for discussion on astrological matters, and not for> telling somebody that "If You drink alcohol and meat........ .this will> happen .." OR " Saturn is Overpowering your senses" OR other such> unnecessary remarks.> > Which member of these Groups and amongst more than 50000 of them who> must be knowing me here, can prove or say that they have ever seen me> drinking alcohol or eating Meat ?> > Talking about women I do many times, then will they attrivbute that I am> going to whores, and I must stop doing that because yours is a "Dharmi> tewa" ? What nonsense is this.> > I talk about alcohol too, in Face Book I just mentioned two days ago> that "After 9.00pm I am inebriviated" so some fools must take this as> Reality and now talk rubbish ? I talk about women, I talk about Movie> Stars, I talk about Romance. Why ? these fools will never realise. But> let me be honest once again. these are all marketing strategies to pull> the common folks towards yourself, by talking in the language they> understand, and then doing the bit which youw ant to, once in a while> without it looking apparent. But yeh Baniya buddhi sirf Marwadi ka> baccha samajh sakta hai, doodh bechne wala nahin. ( these are aggressive> marketing techniques of ones wares by pulling a crowd by co-relating> with them in the ways they understand)> > People must show their smartness by talking about astrology about which> they even dont know abcd, and trying to appear wise with such nonsense> talkings ?> > Forget it...... dear Kulbir ji.. I have ample proof about the gentleman to> point out many irregularities about his Lifestle and knowledge of> astrology but will refrain, because we cannot stoop to those levels as> we are cultured people.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Lalkitab Kb> <lalkitabkb@ > wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji,> > //This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations> in my chart ?> > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ?> > Please explain this part.//> > //But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you> ...?//> > Â> > I am sure Dear Goel ji got infected with his sadistic trend from> lalkitab groups.> > Whenever they can't counter the logics and arguments put forward> by me, their last resort is my horoscope.> >  Regards> > Kulbir Bains> >> >> >> >> > ____________ _________ _________ __> > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tue, 2 February, 2010 9:16:55 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> >> > Â> > Dear Goel ji,> > // Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your> consciousness my dear !. //> > Please do not harbor any concern over this...  My> consciousness is overlapped only with the Love of God and doing my> duty in this material Life, and Love for the 9 Planets ...with no bias> towards either the Sun or Saturn...or any other planet..> > // Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they> inspire to> > > live life at all condition.//> > My previous mail was not to inspire anybody going for a suicide,> rather defending those who have gone for a suicide lest they be spoken> of as weak.> > // that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and> eat> > > meat. It destroys children.> > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H... //> > I do not understand this... You are apparently referring to my> chart...> > But the rest of the nonsense who has filtered to you, may I ask you> ...?> > Which Godforsaken person has guided you that I drink alcohol and eat> Meat , and that you must send me this reference... This is not right and> highly irrelevant.. .> > I have the guts to say what i do in real Life, and have always been> transparent about it...> > What are you trying to tell me ? That I am a sinner and You are a> saint ?> > But who says that I am a sinner... ?> > This means that if we put up our personal charts , you will > locate such references and connect it to the planetary combinations> in my chart ?> > Is this why I put up my chart for discussions ?> > Please explain this part.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > Â> > Â> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "vijay.goel"> goyalvj@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskerji,> > >> > > Hare Rama Krsna,> > >> > > //> > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > >> > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > //> > >> > > I totally dis-agree with it.> > > This statement is the 'peak of cowardice' for a man.> > > This statement itself shows the reflection of fall of Jupiter and> Sun in> > > the chart.> > >> > > //They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> cope> > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family> > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> help> > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> One> > > needs guts to kill himself.//> > >> > > This explanation is only a joke.> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- --------- --------- --------- -> > > Surprising ! it coming out from the person who is Leo Lagna, who has> > > life energy of Sun within.> > > Leo native are normally inspiring & royal personalities, they> inspire to> > > live life at all condition.> > >> > > Be-ware of Saturnine negativity which is overlapping your> consciousness> > > my dear !.> > >> > > ------------ --------- --------- -> > >> > > Lal-Kitab says> > > "Sanichar ki khurak ya mandi cheejo ke istemal se aulad ki tabahi ka> > > hukm sadir kar dega...1941 page 70"> > >> > > that person who has Sun in 11th house must not drink alcohol and eat> > > meat. It destroys children.> > > Logically as per kalpurush kundli , sun is in the 11H of saturn> > > aspecting 5H its own house, when one consumes alcohol, Sun's enemy> > > Saturn gets strengthen which turn sun malefic destroying the 5H.> > >> > > ------------ --------- ---------> > >> > > I have just put my thought > > >> > > Thankyou,> > > Regards,> > > Vijay Goel> > > Jaipur.> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people....> > > >> > > > Only the strong can commit suicides.> > > >> > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to> cope> > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close> family> > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to> help> > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide.> One> > > > needs guts to kill himself.> > > >> > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One> must> > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order> to> > > > take such a major step in Life.> > > >> > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who> was> > > a> > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to> > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times...> > > >> > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > > --- In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji,> > > > >> > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start> checking> > > the> > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have> got> > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One> > > cannot> > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies.> He> > > > has> > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul.> > > > >> > > > > regards,> > > > >> > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv> mehta> > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ?> > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the> > > only> > > > > thing associated with 8th house.> > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am> also> > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something.> > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well.> Its> > > effects> > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an> > > > antihero.> > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse> > > > > circumstances.> > > > > >> > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas> through> > > > out> > > > > her life.> > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and> Jup> > > > in> > > > > 8H!!> > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!!> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@> gmail.com>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > >> > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly> > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for> and> > > > > expecting some practical demos.> > > > > >> > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is> authentic.> > > > > >> > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California> > > > > >> > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H.> > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H.> > > > > >> > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down> > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more!> > > > > >> > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of> secrets> > > > and> > > > > scandals!> > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend> which> > > are> > > > > made by the 8H.> > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again?> > > > > >> > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H.> > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why?> > > > > >> > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about!> > > > > >> > > > > > All comments are welcome!> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co..> in>> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology.> > > > > > Â> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian> Kachuaa> > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will> see> > > > that.> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > >> > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong> > > > > destruction.> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or> Power and> > > which> > > > > nobody want to see.> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > >> > > > > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification> of> > > VRY> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > > > Indian Kachua> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ....> > > > > >> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8!> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ÂÂ> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Freinds,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my> Horoscope> > > > as> > > > > a> > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since> > > september> > > > > 2009> > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my> Lagna.> > > Its> > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated> and> > > > > > > retrograde both.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras> and> > > > > trikonas> > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam..> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here> ..and> > > how> > > > > will> > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me> what> > > > will> > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles...> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material> now...> > > and> > > > do> > > > > not> > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not> > > interested..> > > > .> > > > > > >> > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it> NOW!> > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> >> >> >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW!> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/> >> The INTERNET now has a personality. 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Neelam ji, Thanks for the inputs. I was actually interested in whether there is any VRY ... best wishes, Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Jupiter is 5/8 lord. 5H for children and 8H for their happiness/sukh. Jup in > second from 5th is adding on to child's family and in 11th from 8H is adding > on to the bliss. This can mean marriage/child birth for the child, specially > the eldest child. We may check saptamsha to confirm. What was it? Do we find > Ju or Ven in action for the child? I hope learned members cn work out! :-) > But, while the children are happy, father himself is a little worried and in > suspense? 8H effect? > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 3 February 2010 22:33, Satya satyabhama_gupta_1980 wrote: > > > > > > > May I attempt - > > Juptier Dasha - so going my teachings of Neelam ji and KN Rao, Jupiter > > becomes extremely important. > > Sixth house Jupiter, debilitated yet retrograde lord of the 8th House - > > from the 8th house it is the 11th. which will confer gains through means of > > Guru (knowledge). In Capricorn, it would indicate practical knowledge, > > knowledge which actually works in Kali Yuga, retrograde indicates differing > > from the norms of common practiced jyotish (knowledge). > > Here, Sthana-Kala-Patra becomes important. The native is an astrologer by > > profession so he would gain by knowledge (jyotish course/teaching) of hidden > > science (jyotish) and in turn serve society. > > Jupiter rules fat, Capricorn knees, Pisces feet. He might tend to gain > > weight and may face issues in his legs. > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chiranjiv Bhai. > > > > > > I am going to be a little strict now, so now please do not mind at all.. > > > > > > I also first thank you for making a good attempt to delineating this. > > > Those who have the power to jump in the water will some day learn > > > swimming, and when they learn to go deeper, would someday find the > > > pearls too... (I just created this and now going to put on my face > > > book..sounds nice)... > > > > > > // Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > maternal uncles.// > > > > > > Boss where is the predictions here ? If I say this to somebody who comes > > > to me as a client with his chart, he will have a problem in paying me my > > > Fees, and so will I have in accepting, for I have offered him nothing in > > > essence. What will happen, and when will it happen is required to be > > > told. > > > > > > By the way there cannot be any sudden because a strong Sturn is > > > associated who is not a planet of suddenness. > > > > > > But transformations will certainly take place, the why and when I will > > > let you know later, and how and what I will leave it for the readers to > > > study and tell me, if they can. No spoon feeding here. > > > > > > // In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures.// > > > > > > Why in proper senses would I first go and spend my time in > > > finding/digging old treasures Sir, and where ??? God has given us hands > > > and brains, we should use them with hard work and labour to earn our > > > bread and butter, and do not want anything for free. > > > > > > But suppose I had really gone to find/dig for hidden treasures, I would > > > have really found them. Why ? Because the 6th house is the house of > > > receipt, thats why. And if the 8th is associated with is then all > > > significations of the 8th will come to me if I search for them... > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > chiranjiv mehta > > > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > >  > > > > Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > maternal uncles. > > > > In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. > > > > In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps deliver > > > the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is placed in > > > natal chart. > > > >  > > > > Waiting for your feedback. > > > >  > > > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards  > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > To: <%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > trikonas > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > > will > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > > > not > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. . > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Gopi ji, yes thanks, these are certainly important factors for him to rise and make money, even after loosing the same. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " gopalakrishna " <gopi_b927 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > AB has number of planets in 8H with exal8L in MT.11L of titles/success/ > friends and 2nL of wealth is exalted in 6H service/job who is also > karaka for wealth as well as 2/11houses!!L/L from 4H of comfirt in a > friend's house is aspg jup,10H and lagna.10L of karma/profession in the > nakshatra of moon in 9H of luck as 6L of job/service while moon is in > the nakshatra of Rahu in 7H of position giver in Leo the royal sign > while the dispositor is with 10L along with Yk and exal 5/8L.. > These are the important factors for his rise and also make good money > even after loosing it!! > Love and regards, > gopi. > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > 11th October 1942 > > > > 4.00pm Allahabad. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > , Manoj Chandran > > chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Renu Ji (or any one else), > > > > > > Could you please post Bacchan's birth data? > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > renunw renunw@ > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 11:25:35 AM > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >  > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > // why did Amitabh Bachhan rise to such great heights and also > achieve > > good money in Life, even though he has 4 planets placed in the > 8th...// > > > > > > Let me quote Sri KN Rao ji. > > > > > > ..//Slowly look at the degrees of each planet and the picture > unfolds. > > it is a celebrity's horoscope. Then you see Aquarius Lagna, the > > innovative person and the 8th Mercury, the world famous personality, > two > > exalted planets, a powerful Gajakesari yoga. Then work out how these > > four planets in the 8th form how many yogas and you have the total > > picture of the famous trend-setting personality of Indian films . The > > Navamsha confirms it,// > > > > > > What are the yogas formed in 8H? > > > > > > 1. 10L Mars + 5L Me > > > 2. 7L Sun + 5L Me > > > 3. 4L Venus + 5L Me > > > 4. 9L Venus + 10L Mars = Dharmakarmadhipathi Yoga > > > 5. 9L Venus + 7L Sun > > > 6. Jaimini AK Su + AMK Me. [repeats in navamsha] > > > > > > Have I missed anything.... .then someone please continue.. > > > > > > blessings, > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay Goel ji, > > > > > > > > Good. > > > > > > > > I would like to ask all present here, why did Amitabh Bachhan rise > > to > > > > such great heights and also achieve good money in Life, even > though > > he > > > > has 4 planets placed in the 8th... > > > > > > > > By the way he has the 8th house activated throughout his Life.... > > > > > > > > This example and its study will bring out the facts that 8th house > > or > > > > its Lord is not always bad. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " vijay.goel " > > > > <goyalvj@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Manojji, > > > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna, > > > > > > > > > > Sri Amitabh Bachan Chart could be be the good example for 8H. > > > > > > > > > > Thankyou, > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > > > Vijay Goel > > > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Manoj > Chandran > > > > chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the > > cause > > > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is > > dreaded. > > > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should > be > > > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc > we > > need > > > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: > > namely > > > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity > > !!! > > > > > > > > > > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic > moral > > > > fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in > > continuious > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > > > personality with predictable consequences. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > >  -Manoj > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ____________ _________ _________ __ > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could > > be > > > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " > resulting > > from > > > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated > > about > > > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, > > while > > > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. > > in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been > able > > to > > > > cope > > > > > > >with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close > > > > family > > > > > > >members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from > society > > to > > > > help > > > > > > >them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit > > suicide. > > > > One > > > > > > >needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. > > One > > > > must > > > > > > >have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in > > order > > > > to > > > > > > >take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn > Monroe > > who > > > > was a > > > > > > >darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in > them > > to > > > > > > >romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > > ><bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start > > > > checking the > > > > > > >> Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them > > have > > > > got > > > > > > >> their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. > > One > > > > cannot > > > > > > >> type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in > > movies. > > > > He > > > > > > >has > > > > > > >> acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> regards, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> Bhaskar. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> ancient_indian_ astrology, > chiranjiv > > > > mehta > > > > > > >> vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > > >> > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that > is > > the > > > > only > > > > > > >> thing associated with 8th house. > > > > > > >> > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i > > am > > > > also > > > > > > >> supposed to have illicit relations. There must be > something. > > > > > > >> > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not > > expressing VRY well. > > > > Its effects > > > > > > >> are like seeing an action movie with the main character is > an > > > > > > >antihero. > > > > > > >> It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in > > adverse > > > > > > >> circumstances. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > > >> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > >> > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 4:12 PM > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >  > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H > dashas > > > > through > > > > > > >out > > > > > > >> her life. > > > > > > >> > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of > Jup > > and > > > > Jup > > > > > > >in > > > > > > >> 8H!! > > > > > > >> > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ > > > > gmail.com> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Dear All, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are > > fairly > > > > > > >> advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was > calling > > for > > > > and > > > > > > >> expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is > > authentic. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > > >> > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed > > down > > > > > > >> graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of > > > > secrets > > > > > > >and > > > > > > >> scandals! > > > > > > >> > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend > > which > > > > are > > > > > > >> made by the 8H. > > > > > > >> > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H > again? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > > >> > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Regards > > > > > > >> > Neelam > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ > > .co. > > > > in> > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> >  > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > > >> >  > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, > Indian > > > > Kachuaa > > > > > > >> <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who > will > > see > > > > > > >that. > > > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to > strong > > > > > > >> destruction. > > > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >> > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or > > > > PowerÃÆ'‚ and which > > > > > > >> nobody want to see. > > > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of > > frutification > > > > of VRY > > > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >> > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > >> > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my > > > > Horoscope > > > > > > >as > > > > > > >> a > > > > > > >> > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > > > september > > > > > > >> 2009 > > > > > > >> > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my > > > > Lagna. Its > > > > > > >> > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is > > debilitated > > > > and > > > > > > >> > > retrograde both. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in > > kendras > > > > and > > > > > > >> trikonas > > > > > > >> > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work > here > > > > ..and how > > > > > > >> will > > > > > > >> > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell > me > > > > what > > > > > > >will > > > > > > >> > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material > > now... > > > > and > > > > > > >do > > > > > > >> not > > > > > > >> > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > > > interested.. > > > > > > >. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > best wishes, > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. > Get > > it > > > > NOW! > > > > > > >> http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji,IMHO, Jupiter antar would boost your income, both earned and obtained through windfalls and would lift up the *net worth* so as to say. But VRY actually would be effective in saturn's antar. Both planets are retrograde, so the graph of deliveries would be rather uncertain, sometimes drizzling and sometimes pouring. If you agree I can give you the reasons. RegardsNeelamOn 3 February 2010 23:32, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear Neelam ji, Thanks for the inputs. I was actually interested in whether there is any VRY ... best wishes, Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > Jupiter is 5/8 lord. 5H for children and 8H for their happiness/sukh. Jup in > second from 5th is adding on to child's family and in 11th from 8H is adding > on to the bliss. This can mean marriage/child birth for the child, specially > the eldest child. We may check saptamsha to confirm. What was it? Do we find > Ju or Ven in action for the child? I hope learned members cn work out! :-) > But, while the children are happy, father himself is a little worried and in > suspense? 8H effect? > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 3 February 2010 22:33, Satya satyabhama_gupta_1980 wrote: > > > > > > > May I attempt - > > Juptier Dasha - so going my teachings of Neelam ji and KN Rao, Jupiter > > becomes extremely important. > > Sixth house Jupiter, debilitated yet retrograde lord of the 8th House - > > from the 8th house it is the 11th. which will confer gains through means of > > Guru (knowledge). In Capricorn, it would indicate practical knowledge, > > knowledge which actually works in Kali Yuga, retrograde indicates differing > > from the norms of common practiced jyotish (knowledge). > > Here, Sthana-Kala-Patra becomes important. The native is an astrologer by > > profession so he would gain by knowledge (jyotish course/teaching) of hidden > > science (jyotish) and in turn serve society. > > Jupiter rules fat, Capricorn knees, Pisces feet. He might tend to gain > > weight and may face issues in his legs. > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chiranjiv Bhai. > > > > > > I am going to be a little strict now, so now please do not mind at all.. > > > > > > I also first thank you for making a good attempt to delineating this. > > > Those who have the power to jump in the water will some day learn > > > swimming, and when they learn to go deeper, would someday find the > > > pearls too... (I just created this and now going to put on my face > > > book..sounds nice)... > > > > > > // Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > maternal uncles.// > > > > > > Boss where is the predictions here ? If I say this to somebody who comes > > > to me as a client with his chart, he will have a problem in paying me my > > > Fees, and so will I have in accepting, for I have offered him nothing in > > > essence. What will happen, and when will it happen is required to be > > > told. > > > > > > By the way there cannot be any sudden because a strong Sturn is > > > associated who is not a planet of suddenness. > > > > > > But transformations will certainly take place, the why and when I will > > > let you know later, and how and what I will leave it for the readers to > > > study and tell me, if they can. No spoon feeding here. > > > > > > // In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures.// > > > > > > Why in proper senses would I first go and spend my time in > > > finding/digging old treasures Sir, and where ??? God has given us hands > > > and brains, we should use them with hard work and labour to earn our > > > bread and butter, and do not want anything for free. > > > > > > But suppose I had really gone to find/dig for hidden treasures, I would > > > have really found them. Why ? Because the 6th house is the house of > > > receipt, thats why. And if the 8th is associated with is then all > > > significations of the 8th will come to me if I search for them... > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > chiranjiv mehta > > > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > >  > > > > Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > maternal uncles. > > > > In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. > > > > In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps deliver > > > the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is placed in > > > natal chart. > > > >  > > > > Waiting for your feedback. > > > >  > > > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards  > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > To: <%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > trikonas > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > > will > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > > > not > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. . > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear friends, Mr. Indian Kachua is showing that there are kechuas(tape worms and parasites) in the stomache due to the 6th and 8th and the 12th house Lord placements in the Horoscope. I means he is just showing us the negative side. Are these the only Lords active in the whole Horoscope ? He is not showing the Vitamins intake in the peron, and the other medicines available with the native which removes those worms in his body. He is just trying to show us the dark side . Does astrology teach us this ? Is this astrology ? To take one shloka and confirm is at true in the Life of the native ? Is this not horrendous type of study ? The other planets are inactive ? The shlokas for the rest of the planets placements to counteract these evil effects are missing ? And what about the VRY ? Theresno single shloka he has quoted from the Maharishis here. Is he an astrologer or ......? I request the Moderators to ask this id " Indian Kachua " to reveal us his real identity so that the discussion can be pursued and we can bring it to a successfull conclusion. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " indian_kachua " <indian_kachua wrote: > > ########## > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > ########## > > Dont speak like this for real astrology and ancient works of Maharishish. > > ENJOY THE REAL ASTROLOGY - > > 1. JP - Sloka 54 - Chapter 14 > > If the lord of the 8'th bhava occupy the 6'th, 8'th or the 12'th bhava, the astrologer may predict the demise of the person concerned with conjunction of it > > 2. JP - Sloka 83 - Chapter 15 > > If the 12'th Bhava, with Sa and Ra or Ke in it,is occupied by the lord of the 8'th bhava or aspected by the lord of the 6'th, the person born goes to hell. > > > 3. JP - Sloka 76 - Chapter 15 > > When a malefic planet owning the 6'th or the 8'th bhava occupies the 12'th bhava in strength, the person born will lose his status in regard to agricu;ture and monetary transactions, and will suffer total loss of all servants and cattle. > > 4. Jataka Ratna 74-79 & 82 & 83 and Jataka Bharnam > > When the planet in the 12'th bhava owns as well as occupies a moveable sign, or is the lord of dusthana or is in conjunction with or aspected by Sa, the person born will indeed have to roam over many lands and forest regions. > > 5. JP - Sloka 77 - Chapter 13 > > If malefic planet appear in the 8'th associated with the lord of 6'th, the person concerned will suffer from pain in the anus. > > 6. Jataka Bharnam and JP JP - Sloka 48 - Chapter 14 > > If the lord of the 8'th bhava being associated with a malefic planet occupy the 12'th or the 6'th bhava, the person concerned will be short-lived.The same effect is produced when the lord of the 8'th bhava belng weak happens to be associated with the lord of the lagna of the two bhavas above - named( the 6'th or 12'th) > > 7. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam > > " Papsche shatru vriddhischa tasmat deha vranani cha " > > > If a malific is in 6'th house, there is growth of enemies and also injuries on bodies. > > > 8. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam > > Vyaeshe Rog Rashiisthe Tadishe Vyarashige ... Gulma Rogam Vinirdishet. > > If 6'th lord in 12'th and 12'th lord in 6'th, gulma roga happens. > > > 9. SatyaJatak by Satyacharya, Page 113 > > " Ashtmeshe tu Shastasthe ShatruBadha Bhavishyati " > " Chinta Bhayam Manaha Kleshah Sahatrudwara Bhavanti hi " > > If 8'th lord is placed in 6'th house, Shatru Badha, mental worries and huge sufferings happens. > > > 10. Sarvarth Chintamani, Shloka no 93, Shasth Bhava Vicharah > > " Shasteshe Ashtameshe Bhaume Va Vikramesh Smanvate, Mand Mandi Gu Samyukte Kruranshe Udhato Mritah " > > If 6'th lord is conjunct with 8'th lord or with sat, mandi or gulika or in krur navamsa,native dies in a war. > > > 11. Jiva Natha, shloka 23, Bhava Vichara > > > " Rogesho lagnago yasya nidhan astho api janmani, vranodyastu sarvange sapapo na vranam dishet " . > > > If 6'th lord in lagna or in 8'th there is scars of injuri in whole body. > > Indian Kachuaa > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > > > > > > , Indian Kachuaa > > <indian_kachua@> wrote: > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that. > > >  > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction. > > >  > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody > > want to see. > > >  > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > >  > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > trikonas > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > will > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > > not > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 thanks Dear neelamji, This is what I was looking for among the other inputs. You need not give me the reasons. I know exactly the dates to the day, when the results positive would be forthcoming. The graph of retrograde planets is certain for me, as to when it will deliver and when not.... thanks once again... Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > IMHO, Jupiter antar would boost your income, both earned and obtained > through windfalls and would lift up the *net worth* so as to say. But VRY > actually would be effective in saturn's antar. Both planets are retrograde, > so the graph of deliveries would be rather uncertain, sometimes drizzling > and sometimes pouring. > If you agree I can give you the reasons. > > Regards > Neelam > > On 3 February 2010 23:32, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > Thanks for the inputs. > > > > I was actually interested in whether there is any VRY ... > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > --- In <%40yaho\ ogroups.com>, > > neelam gupta > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji, > > > > > > Jupiter is 5/8 lord. 5H for children and 8H for their happiness/sukh. > > Jup in > > > second from 5th is adding on to child's family and in 11th from 8H is > > adding > > > on to the bliss. This can mean marriage/child birth for the child, > > specially > > > the eldest child. We may check saptamsha to confirm. What was it? Do > > we find > > > Ju or Ven in action for the child? I hope learned members cn work out! > > :-) > > > But, while the children are happy, father himself is a little worried > > and in > > > suspense? 8H effect? > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > On 3 February 2010 22:33, Satya satyabhama_gupta_1980@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > May I attempt - > > > > Juptier Dasha - so going my teachings of Neelam ji and KN Rao, > > Jupiter > > > > becomes extremely important. > > > > Sixth house Jupiter, debilitated yet retrograde lord of the 8th > > House - > > > > from the 8th house it is the 11th. which will confer gains through > > means of > > > > Guru (knowledge). In Capricorn, it would indicate practical > > knowledge, > > > > knowledge which actually works in Kali Yuga, retrograde indicates > > differing > > > > from the norms of common practiced jyotish (knowledge). > > > > Here, Sthana-Kala-Patra becomes important. The native is an > > astrologer by > > > > profession so he would gain by knowledge (jyotish course/teaching) > > of hidden > > > > science (jyotish) and in turn serve society. > > > > Jupiter rules fat, Capricorn knees, Pisces feet. He might tend to > > gain > > > > weight and may face issues in his legs. > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > <%40yaho\ > > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chiranjiv Bhai. > > > > > > > > > > I am going to be a little strict now, so now please do not mind at > > all.. > > > > > > > > > > I also first thank you for making a good attempt to delineating > > this. > > > > > Those who have the power to jump in the water will some day learn > > > > > swimming, and when they learn to go deeper, would someday find the > > > > > pearls too... (I just created this and now going to put on my face > > > > > book..sounds nice)... > > > > > > > > > > // Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it > > means > > > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to > > matters > > > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > > > maternal uncles.// > > > > > > > > > > Boss where is the predictions here ? If I say this to somebody who > > comes > > > > > to me as a client with his chart, he will have a problem in paying > > me my > > > > > Fees, and so will I have in accepting, for I have offered him > > nothing in > > > > > essence. What will happen, and when will it happen is required to > > be > > > > > told. > > > > > > > > > > By the way there cannot be any sudden because a strong Sturn is > > > > > associated who is not a planet of suddenness. > > > > > > > > > > But transformations will certainly take place, the why and when I > > will > > > > > let you know later, and how and what I will leave it for the > > readers to > > > > > study and tell me, if they can. No spoon feeding here. > > > > > > > > > > // In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly > > reduced as > > > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures.// > > > > > > > > > > Why in proper senses would I first go and spend my time in > > > > > finding/digging old treasures Sir, and where ??? God has given us > > hands > > > > > and brains, we should use them with hard work and labour to earn > > our > > > > > bread and butter, and do not want anything for free. > > > > > > > > > > But suppose I had really gone to find/dig for hidden treasures, I > > would > > > > > have really found them. Why ? Because the 6th house is the house > > of > > > > > receipt, thats why. And if the 8th is associated with is then all > > > > > significations of the 8th will come to me if I search for them... > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In > > <%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > <%40yaho\ > > > > ogroups.com>, > > > > chiranjiv mehta > > > > > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > >  > > > > > > Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it > > means > > > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to > > matters > > > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > > > maternal uncles. > > > > > > In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly > > reduced as > > > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. > > > > > > In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps > > deliver > > > > > the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is > > placed in > > > > > natal chart. > > > > > >  > > > > > > Waiting for your feedback. > > > > > >  > > > > > >  > > > > > > Thanks & Regards  > > > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > To: > > <%40yaho\ ogroups.com> > > <%40yaho\ > > > > ogroups.com> > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > as a > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september 2009 > > > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. > > Its > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > > trikonas > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ...and > > how > > > > > will > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > will > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and do > > > > > not > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. . > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > > Homepage. > > > > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Anita ji and all,We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she was our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu BalaSome interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of name and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in 8H. You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6.50 hrs/DelhiRegards NeelamOn 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:  dear Anita ji, Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a particular star , become stars, all of them. We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. best wishes, Bhaskar. , Anita R <ash.rsh55 wrote: > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of hers long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If you see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the people who are born at the same time in different parts of the world????????? > Regards, > Anita > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj wrote: > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM >  > > > > Neelam Ji, >  > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! >  > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the personality with predictable consequences. >  > Regards, >  -Manoj >  neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > >  > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> wrote: > > >  > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > needs guts to kill himself. > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > take such a major step in Life. > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was a > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking the > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One cannot > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > has > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > regards, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the only > > thing > associated with 8th house. > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its effects > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > antihero. > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > circumstances. > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > out > > her life. > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > in > > 8H!! > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > and > > scandals! > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which are > > made by the 8H. > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > >  > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > that. > > > >  > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > destruction. > > > >  > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which > > nobody want to see. > > > >  > > > > > > > Family and > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > >  > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > as > > a > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > > 2009 > > > > I am running antardasha of > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > trikonas > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > will > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > will > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > do > > not > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > . > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. http://in./ > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Please check her birth details. What I have is 7.00pm. What I have, maybe wrong or right, I do not know, which is why I ask you to verify this. regards/Bhaskar. , neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Anita ji and all, > > We have another beauty, closer home. If Marilyn was Holly Goddess, she was > our desi Bolly Goddess, Madhu Bala > Some interesting similarities in their lives. Both attained heights of name > and fame, became legends and both died at the age of 36. > It is also interesting to know that MB also has Jup-Mars conjunction and > from the data that I have (not sure about it), the conjunction falls in 8H. > > You may check this out: 14.2.1933/6.50 hrs/Delhi > > Regards > Neelam > > > On 3 February 2010 12:02, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > > > > > > > dear Anita ji, > > > > Yes she was undoubtedly one of the most beautiful women... > > > > Your question is justified. Why dont all of them who were born at a > > particular star , become stars, all of them. > > > > We must discuss over this, yes, there are some pointers I guess which > > would bring out the facts in open, as to the why of this. > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > Anita R <ash.rsh55@> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Manojji, Bhaskar ji, Neelamji, > > > what ever be the tragedy of her life , She WAS breathtakingly > > beautiful. And her smile.... I remembering seeing a small poster of hers > > long time back in black and white - just a bust of hers- today I wish I > > had picked it up, I would love to paint her in black and white... If you > > see Elton John's video " CANDLE IN THE WIND " , when Marlene Monroe makes > > her entry on the stage in Vietnam to entertain the american soldiers, > > the pleasure on the faces of those tired soldiers is worth watching. > > Their shouts, their adulation is wonderful to watch. I who was also > > sitting in front of the TV too exclaimed " WOW' when she made > > > > her entry in a spaghetti strapped black and figure hugging > > dress..perhaps all should watch this video.. > > > I think she is the most beautiful woman to be born in this world. > > Wonder what contributed to her looks. I always wonder, there are > > many people , who from nothing, they become STARS over night. What > > > > are the combos in their kundalis? Why it does not happen to all the > > people who are born at the same time in different parts of the > > world????????? > > > Regards, > > > Anita > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ wrote: > > > > > > Manoj Chandran chandran_manoj@ > > > > > Re: Re: House No. 8! > > > To: <%40.\ com> > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 3:10 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelam Ji, > > > > >  > > > She had connections with the Mafia which most probably was the cause > > (or drug overdose). This is the kind of 8H connection that is dreaded. > > 8L has gone to the 4H a prime real estate. In this case 8L should be > > weak or else it is a disaster. Also when the 8L is causing havoc we need > > the two house lords who can protect us due to past life merits: namely > > 5H and 9H to be strong. Here both are in the 8H. What a pity !!! > > > > >  > > > 9L going to the 8H (12 away) spells trouble for the basic moral fibre > > of the individual. With 8H dashas being in continuious > > > > activation, plenty of opportunity to express this side of the > > personality with predictable consequences. > > >  > > > Regards, > > >  -Manoj > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Tue, February 2, 2010 7:29:56 AM > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > >  > > > > > > Her death remains a mystery! One of the theories says it could be > > suicide or overdose of barbiturates. > > > Nothing has been said with certainty. > > > > > > //Dr. Thomas Noguchi of the Los Angeles County Coroners office > > recorded cause of death as " acute barbiturate poisoning, " resulting from > > a " probable suicide " . Many theories, including murder, circulated about > > the circumstances of her death and the timeline after the body was > > found. Some conspiracy theories involved John and Robert Kennedy, while > > other theories suggested CIA or Mafia complicity./ / WIKI > > > > > > Regards > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 19:53, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suicides cannot be done by weak people.... > > > > > > Only the strong can commit suicides. > > > > > > They may be considered weak in the wordly sense, not been able to cope > > > with losees, or rectify them, and with no support from, close family > > > members, relatuives, or friiends circle or anyone from society to help > > > them, they instead of living like a Dog, prefer to commit suicide. One > > > needs guts to kill himself. > > > > > > Try cutting your body with a blade. Its not easy to do this. One must > > > have to face so much hopelessness and desperation in Life in order to > > > take such a major step in Life. > > > > > > I am only talking in general and not related to Marilyn Monroe who was > > a > > > darling for all the men who had hearts and masculinity in them to > > > romance with this beautiful lady of her times. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > > > > > > > > > <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chiranjiv ji, > > > > > > > > You are right. If the research oreiented over here, start checking > > the > > > > Horoscopes of Politicans, they will find that most of them have got > > > > their positions of affluence , only during the VRY periods. One > > cannot > > > > type cast Amrish Puri, that he will only do bad roles in movies. He > > > has > > > > acted wonderfully in good roles too. God bless his soul. > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > > > > vchiranjiv@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Marilyn Monroe ? > > > > > We are talking too much about scandals. Looks like that is the > > only > > > > thing > > > associated with 8th house. > > > > > I have 12th lord in 8th ( Jup ) and read somewhere that i am also > > > > supposed to have illicit relations. There must be something. > > > > > Plus Indian Kachuaji is not expressing VRY well. Its > > > > effects > > > > are like seeing an action movie with the main character is an > > > antihero. > > > > It takes tremendous strength to remain strong in adverse > > > > > > circumstances. > > > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ > > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, > > > 4:12 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Of course, I need not add, but she remained with 8H dashas through > > > out > > > > her life. > > > > > Born in Mars of 8H, Rahu aspecting 8th in nakshatra of Jup and Jup > > > in > > > > 8H!! > > > > > Mars-Jup in nakshatra exchange too!! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 16:05, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07@ gmail.com> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > > > > > > I thank all the participants of this discussion. We are fairly > > > > advanced, so as to say in theory!! That is why I was calling for and > > > > expecting some practical demos. > > > > > > > > > > I am giving an interesting case here and the data is authentic. > > > > > > > > > > > > > BT: 1.6.1926/9.30 hrs/ LA, California > > > > > > > > > > Cancer lagna and 8L Saturn exalted in 4H. > > > > > 5L Mars and 9L Jup conjunct in 8H. > > > > > > > > > > The lady enjoyed and suffered all the 8H results listed down > > > > graciously by Sheevani ji, and may be more! > > > > > > > > > > She was mystery and misery personified. She led a life of secrets > > > and > > > > scandals! > > > > > She had the fatal attraction of 8H. She became the legend which > > are > > > > made by the 8H. > > > > > And finally she also died mysteriously! ! May be 8H again? > > > > > > > > > > Only 36, when she died in the VMD of Jup-Mar in 8H. > > > > > An exalted 8L did not give her a long life, why? > > > > > > > > > > I am sure you all would've guessed who I'm talking about! > > > > > > > > > > All comments are welcome! > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 2 February 2010 15:16, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ .co. in> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Indian Kachuaa > > > > <indian_kachua@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see > > > that. > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong > > > > destruction. > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or PowerÃÆ'‚ > > > > and which > > > > nobody want to see. > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > Family and > > > person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ ... > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > > > as > > > > a > > > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since > > september > > > > 2009 > > > > > > I am running antardasha of > > > Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > > trikonas > > > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and > > how > > > > will > > > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > > > will > > > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... > > and > > > do > > > > not > > > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not > > interested.. > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your Mail works best with the New Optimized IE8. Get it NOW! > > > > http://downloads. / in/internetexplo rer/ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! 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Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Kachua ji,It will be better if you give yourself a better name so that other learned members take you more seriously and you get good response for the knowledge shared by you. It is understandable, and we have voiced this many times in the forum that people should sign their mails with a proper name. It is better if you reveal your real identity. Even if you wish to remain in hiding, at least give yourself a suitable human name! Hope you will agree and respect yourself! Otherwise, I am sorry to say, members would have no option but to ignore you!Choice is yours.:-)RegardsModeratorOn 3 February 2010 23:48, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: Dear friends, Mr. Indian Kachua is showing that there are kechuas(tape worms and parasites) in the stomache due to the 6th and 8th and the 12th house Lord placements in the Horoscope. I means he is just showing us the negative side. Are these the only Lords active in the whole Horoscope ? He is not showing the Vitamins intake in the peron, and the other medicines available with the native which removes those worms in his body. He is just trying to show us the dark side . Does astrology teach us this ? Is this astrology ? To take one shloka and confirm is at true in the Life of the native ? Is this not horrendous type of study ? The other planets are inactive ? The shlokas for the rest of the planets placements to counteract these evil effects are missing ? And what about the VRY ? Theresno single shloka he has quoted from the Maharishis here. Is he an astrologer or ......? I request the Moderators to ask this id " Indian Kachua " to reveal us his real identity so that the discussion can be pursued and we can bring it to a successfull conclusion. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " indian_kachua " <indian_kachua wrote: > > ########## > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > ########## > > Dont speak like this for real astrology and ancient works of Maharishish. > > ENJOY THE REAL ASTROLOGY - > > 1. JP - Sloka 54 - Chapter 14 > > If the lord of the 8'th bhava occupy the 6'th, 8'th or the 12'th bhava, the astrologer may predict the demise of the person concerned with conjunction of it > > 2. JP - Sloka 83 - Chapter 15 > > If the 12'th Bhava, with Sa and Ra or Ke in it,is occupied by the lord of the 8'th bhava or aspected by the lord of the 6'th, the person born goes to hell. > > > 3. JP - Sloka 76 - Chapter 15 > > When a malefic planet owning the 6'th or the 8'th bhava occupies the 12'th bhava in strength, the person born will lose his status in regard to agricu;ture and monetary transactions, and will suffer total loss of all servants and cattle. > > 4. Jataka Ratna 74-79 & 82 & 83 and Jataka Bharnam > > When the planet in the 12'th bhava owns as well as occupies a moveable sign, or is the lord of dusthana or is in conjunction with or aspected by Sa, the person born will indeed have to roam over many lands and forest regions. > > 5. JP - Sloka 77 - Chapter 13 > > If malefic planet appear in the 8'th associated with the lord of 6'th, the person concerned will suffer from pain in the anus. > > 6. Jataka Bharnam and JP JP - Sloka 48 - Chapter 14 > > If the lord of the 8'th bhava being associated with a malefic planet occupy the 12'th or the 6'th bhava, the person concerned will be short-lived.The same effect is produced when the lord of the 8'th bhava belng weak happens to be associated with the lord of the lagna of the two bhavas above - named( the 6'th or 12'th) > > 7. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam > > " Papsche shatru vriddhischa tasmat deha vranani cha " > > > If a malific is in 6'th house, there is growth of enemies and also injuries on bodies. > > > 8. Jyotisharnava Navaneetham, Shloka 142, Page 72, By R Santhanam > > Vyaeshe Rog Rashiisthe Tadishe Vyarashige ... Gulma Rogam Vinirdishet. > > If 6'th lord in 12'th and 12'th lord in 6'th, gulma roga happens. > > > 9. SatyaJatak by Satyacharya, Page 113 > > " Ashtmeshe tu Shastasthe ShatruBadha Bhavishyati " > " Chinta Bhayam Manaha Kleshah Sahatrudwara Bhavanti hi " > > If 8'th lord is placed in 6'th house, Shatru Badha, mental worries and huge sufferings happens. > > > 10. Sarvarth Chintamani, Shloka no 93, Shasth Bhava Vicharah > > " Shasteshe Ashtameshe Bhaume Va Vikramesh Smanvate, Mand Mandi Gu Samyukte Kruranshe Udhato Mritah " > > If 6'th lord is conjunct with 8'th lord or with sat, mandi or gulika or in krur navamsa,native dies in a war. > > > 11. Jiva Natha, shloka 23, Bhava Vichara > > > " Rogesho lagnago yasya nidhan astho api janmani, vranodyastu sarvange sapapo na vranam dishet " . > > > If 6'th lord in lagna or in 8'th there is scars of injuri in whole body. > > Indian Kachuaa > > > , " Bhaskar " bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > This is rubbish talking and not astrology. > > > > > > > > > > , Indian Kachuaa > > <indian_kachua@> wrote: > > > > > > All VRY gives death blows to natives, depends on who will see that. > > >  > > > All VRY are not Rajayogas, sometimes those lead to strong destruction. > > >  > > > Like destruction of Wife, Son, Business or Power and which nobody > > want to see. > > >  > > > Family and person suffers alot at the time of frutification of VRY > > >  > > > Indian Kachua > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > Tuesday, February 2, 2010, 5:24 AM > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > trikonas > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > will > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > > not > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. .. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Bhaskarji ,Neealm ji5th house can be extension of spiritual children too ,bhaskarji you can start astro classes , also 8th house and 5th house are houses linked to astrology ,5th for wisdom 8th for mystique ,which can be associated to astrology or other spiritual practise..So jupiter dasha will bring big advances on the spiritual path which you are treading upon,Jupiter dasha can make you get rid of your debts , enemies coz of its debility.--- On Wed, 3/2/10, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: House No. 8! Date: Wednesday, 3 February, 2010, 11:10 PM Dear Bhaskar ji,Jupiter is 5/8 lord. 5H for children and 8H for their happiness/sukh. Jup in second from 5th is adding on to child's family and in 11th from 8H is adding on to the bliss. This can mean marriage/child birth for the child, specially the eldest child. We may check saptamsha to confirm. What was it? Do we find Ju or Ven in action for the child? I hope learned members cn work out! :-) But, while the children are happy, father himself is a little worried and in suspense? 8H effect? RegardsNeelamOn 3 February 2010 22:33, Satya <satyabhama_gupta_ 1980 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: May I attempt - Juptier Dasha - so going my teachings of Neelam ji and KN Rao, Jupiter becomes extremely important. Sixth house Jupiter, debilitated yet retrograde lord of the 8th House - from the 8th house it is the 11th. which will confer gains through means of Guru (knowledge). In Capricorn, it would indicate practical knowledge, knowledge which actually works in Kali Yuga, retrograde indicates differing from the norms of common practiced jyotish (knowledge). Here, Sthana-Kala- Patra becomes important. The native is an astrologer by profession so he would gain by knowledge (jyotish course/teaching) of hidden science (jyotish) and in turn serve society. Jupiter rules fat, Capricorn knees, Pisces feet. He might tend to gain weight and may face issues in his legs. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear Shri Chiranjiv Bhai. > > I am going to be a little strict now, so now please do not mind at all.. > > I also first thank you for making a good attempt to delineating this. > Those who have the power to jump in the water will some day learn > swimming, and when they learn to go deeper, would someday find the > pearls too... (I just created this and now going to put on my face > book..sounds nice)... > > // Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > maternal uncles.// > > Boss where is the predictions here ? If I say this to somebody who comes > to me as a client with his chart, he will have a problem in paying me my > Fees, and so will I have in accepting, for I have offered him nothing in > essence. What will happen, and when will it happen is required to be > told. > > By the way there cannot be any sudden because a strong Sturn is > associated who is not a planet of suddenness. > > But transformations will certainly take place, the why and when I will > let you know later, and how and what I will leave it for the readers to > study and tell me, if they can. No spoon feeding here. > > // In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures.// > > Why in proper senses would I first go and spend my time in > finding/digging old treasures Sir, and where ??? God has given us hands > and brains, we should use them with hard work and labour to earn our > bread and butter, and do not want anything for free. > > But suppose I had really gone to find/dig for hidden treasures, I would > have really found them. Why ? Because the 6th house is the house of > receipt, thats why. And if the 8th is associated with is then all > significations of the 8th will come to me if I search for them... > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, chiranjiv mehta > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > >  > > Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to matters > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > maternal uncles. > > In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced as > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. > > In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps deliver > the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is placed in > natal chart. > >  > > Waiting for your feedback. > >  > >  > > Thanks & Regards  > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: House No. 8! > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope as a > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september 2009 > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > retrograde both. > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > trikonas > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > will > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what will > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and do > not > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. . > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. > http://in.. com/ > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your Homepage. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest guest Report post Posted February 3, 2010 Dear Bhaskar ji, I am honored with a response from you. Best wishes Satya , " Bhaskar " <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Dear Satyabhama ji, > > Good. > > Many people here with whom I am conversing privately or otherwise due to > my postings on the Groups know already, what I am into.. at any moment > of time... > > I will explain exactly why what You have written is right.... though... > > My Jupiter is indicating the 5th and the 8th lord, which both denote > Occult studies. Its in the Nakshatra of Chandra, again the 5th and the > 12th.... But Chandra moves to the 4th in the Bhava Chalit indicating > education. The 12th means lecturing, Institution, Advisory capacity, > Investments..which is why I have now taken the role of helping the > society through Educating astrology and also doing my consultations > free, or Professional, in a big way.... > > best wishes, and thanks for the mail... and yes i have got pain in my > legs since last few momnths since Jupiter antar begun.... I am not > growing fat, but ahve other fat related problems of course > inconsequential, but nevertheless devloped in Guru antar... and you are > right about Capricorn, it being an earthy sign means practical... > Jupiter gets subdued here.... The knowledge of Jupiter and its practical > utility has been brought to the fore by the dawn of the Guru antar in my > Life. > > Bhaskar. > > , " Satya " > <satyabhama_gupta_1980@> wrote: > > > > May I attempt - > > Juptier Dasha - so going my teachings of Neelam ji and KN Rao, Jupiter > becomes extremely important. > > Sixth house Jupiter, debilitated yet retrograde lord of the 8th House > - from the 8th house it is the 11th. which will confer gains through > means of Guru (knowledge). In Capricorn, it would indicate practical > knowledge, knowledge which actually works in Kali Yuga, retrograde > indicates differing from the norms of common practiced jyotish > (knowledge). > > Here, Sthana-Kala-Patra becomes important. The native is an astrologer > by profession so he would gain by knowledge (jyotish course/teaching) of > hidden science (jyotish) and in turn serve society. > > Jupiter rules fat, Capricorn knees, Pisces feet. He might tend to gain > weight and may face issues in his legs. > > > > , " Bhaskar " > bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Chiranjiv Bhai. > > > > > > I am going to be a little strict now, so now please do not mind at > all.. > > > > > > I also first thank you for making a good attempt to delineating > this. > > > Those who have the power to jump in the water will some day learn > > > swimming, and when they learn to go deeper, would someday find the > > > pearls too... (I just created this and now going to put on my face > > > book..sounds nice)... > > > > > > // Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it > means > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to > matters > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > maternal uncles.// > > > > > > Boss where is the predictions here ? If I say this to somebody who > comes > > > to me as a client with his chart, he will have a problem in paying > me my > > > Fees, and so will I have in accepting, for I have offered him > nothing in > > > essence. What will happen, and when will it happen is required to be > > > told. > > > > > > By the way there cannot be any sudden because a strong Sturn is > > > associated who is not a planet of suddenness. > > > > > > But transformations will certainly take place, the why and when I > will > > > let you know later, and how and what I will leave it for the readers > to > > > study and tell me, if they can. No spoon feeding here. > > > > > > // In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly > reduced as > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures.// > > > > > > Why in proper senses would I first go and spend my time in > > > finding/digging old treasures Sir, and where ??? God has given us > hands > > > and brains, we should use them with hard work and labour to earn our > > > bread and butter, and do not want anything for free. > > > > > > But suppose I had really gone to find/dig for hidden treasures, I > would > > > have really found them. Why ? Because the 6th house is the house of > > > receipt, thats why. And if the 8th is associated with is then all > > > significations of the 8th will come to me if I search for them... > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , chiranjiv mehta > > > <vchiranjiv@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > >  > > > > Judging only by the position of Jupiter, 8th Lord in 6th, it means > > > that there would be sudden transformation in matters related to > matters > > > of the 6th house and its significations like rog, rin, shatru and > > > maternal uncles. > > > > In contrast the effects of the 8th house get significantly reduced > as > > > its lord is in 6th. Guess that means you may not be very lucky in > > > finding/ digging for old bureid treasures. > > > > In terms of AD you will explain better how Jupiter helps > deliver > > > the results of the MD lord and the nakshatra lord wherin it is > placed in > > > natal chart. > > > >  > > > > Waiting for your feedback. > > > >  > > > >  > > > > Thanks & Regards  > > > > > > > > Chiranjiv Mehta > > > > > > > > > > > > --- On Tue, 2/2/10, Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish@ > > > > Re: House No. 8! > > > > > > > > Tuesday, 2 February, 2010, 10:54 AM > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Freinds, > > > > > > > > Neelamji requested for a practical example. I offer my Horoscope > as a > > > > fishig bait for those who want to hunt. Presently since september > 2009 > > > > I am running antardasha of Jupiter, the 8th Lord for my Lagna. Its > > > > placed in the 6th house with Saturn. Jupiter is debilitated and > > > > retrograde both. > > > > > > > > Will the VRY work here now ? > > > > > > > > Froget quoting any rules of Neechbhanga etc.... in kendras and > > > trikonas > > > > bcoz then I would ask you to refer to Dev keralam.. > > > > > > > > Let me know your practical views. Will the VRY work here ..and how > > > will > > > > it manifest itself..and please time it. > > > > > > > > Do not talk in symbolic language or philosphy but tell me what > will > > > > happen , and when, in Tangibles... > > > > > > > > My health is fine by God grace, so talk about material now... and > do > > > not > > > > begin playing any Guitar on health or such ..I am not interested.. > . > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. YOURS! See your > Homepage. > > > http://in./ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
