Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Girish, Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual development didn’t need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people. Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is essential for your survival, for your family’s existence and for future security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it doesn’t work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not interested in spiritual development. Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Girish menon Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM To: Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Dear Santosh Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > humility. People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs. Thanks and regards Girish --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish (AT) (DOT) co.in> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, How must one pray to God ? Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti or anything else? Which is most effective. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@.. .> wrote: > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > humility. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > _____ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Dear Members, > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions of > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste. > > Vidya > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Bhaskar ji, Further from Prof Choudhry on the 2012 period Regards Santhosh Hello dear Mr. Hahne, There is no end of life and the life goes as ever. There would be prolonged transit influences of Rahu, Ketu, Saturn and Jupiter and which create multiple stresses including emotional, health, obstructions, professional problems and mental stresses wherein a natural course is that people start searching solace in spiritual pursuits. On Behalf Of Bhaskar Tuesday, December 08, 2009 4:08 PM To: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Dear Santosh ji, I hold Shri Chawdhary Sahab in high esteem and as a very revered and knowledgable personality in astrology. He must have given some freasons for this judgement I hope. regards, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > With regard to an earlier post from your on the year 2012, following is a > post on SA group:- > > > > > > Dear list members > > > > No major catastrophy for the human race or the world is expected during 2012 > as propagated by some following the Mayan Calancer. > > > > But the year 2012 is likely to bringing some difficult challenges for the > people on economic front and some challenges in the field of health and > natural calamities in many parts of the world including USA and India. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: 12/08/09 > 01:04:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/08/09 01:04:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Santosh ji, // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in comparison.// I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God is there and (2) God is listening. This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front of Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care for what people think of him. Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of the day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church or > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > differentiate between the place. > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or stotras > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on that > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated now) > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem and > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > comparison. > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it is > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when you > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of Agarbathis > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core prayer > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration from > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of emotion. > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a higher > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your heart > at the end of the rituals. > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer itself. > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > How must one pray to God ? > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti > or anything else? > > Which is most effective. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > > humility. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Vidya > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions > of > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste. > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear friends, Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate. Cant do that also without money. But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones hard work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the satisfaction of having tried to earn money. If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ? Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not. One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love. Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Girish, > > > > Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for > ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground > for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai > Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual > development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people. > > > > Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is > essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future > security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it > doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the > next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not > interested in spiritual development. > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Girish menon > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM > > Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? Dear Santosh > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > > humility. > People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the > population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days > miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth > and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs. > Thanks and regards > Girish > > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > How must one pray to God ? > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti > or anything else? > > Which is most effective. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ > .> wrote: > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > > humility. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions > of > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste. > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 You knew the answer and you were testing me J On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM To: Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Dear Santosh ji, // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in comparison.// I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God is there and (2) God is listening. This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front of Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care for what people think of him. Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of the day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. best wishes, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church or > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > differentiate between the place. > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or stotras > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on that > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated now) > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem and > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > comparison. > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it is > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when you > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of Agarbathis > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core prayer > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration from > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of emotion. > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a higher > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your heart > at the end of the rituals. > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer itself. > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > How must one pray to God ? > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti > or anything else? > > Which is most effective. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > > humility. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Vidya > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions > of > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste. > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji, I would like to disagree to some extent. We have enough deities. Some say 33 Koti. That 'koti' may mean Crore (10 million) or may also mean 'Quality' (as used for quality control labs). So many deities are there because people of different qualities may relate to different deities easiliy and start praying. A businessman would pray to Laxmi-ji & Ganesh-ji whereas a student will pary to Saraswati-ji. Let us pour our heart out to God. Let God decide what is best for us and act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that we know our needs more clearly than God does. And let us not restrict ourselves in front of God. Because praying is also a sort of purifying process. regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of BhaskarWednesday, December 09, 2009 11:50 AM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Dear friends,Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate. Cant do that also without money.But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones hard work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the satisfaction of having tried to earn money. If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ? Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not.One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love.Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le. best wishes,Bhaskar. , "Santhosh" <santhosh wrote:>> Dear Girish,> > > > Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for> ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground> for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai> Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual> development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people.> > > > Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is> essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future> security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it> doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the> next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not> interested in spiritual development.> > > > Regards> > Santhosh> > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Girish menon> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM> > Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> Combust ?> > > > > > > Dear Santosh> Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > humility.> People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the> population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days> miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth> and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs.> Thanks and regards> Girish> > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:> > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish> Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> Combust ?> > Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM> > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,> > How must one pray to God ?> > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or> aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of> worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti> or anything else?> > Which is most effective. > > regards/Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> .> wrote:> >> > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji> > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > humility.> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya> > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do> > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly> > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its> > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had> > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go> > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of> > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions> of> > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is> > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.> > > > Vidya> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> > 01:24:00> >> > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> 01:24:00>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. 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Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Chakraborty ji These 33 karod devi devatas are all manifestations of the same Trimurti, Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. If one does not wish to pray to any of these but wants God, then one can take a agarabatti and start praying in front of a cow, for its said that in a cow there is " vaas " of all these " taintees karod devi devatas " . But understandable we need a face to relate to, a form to love, a name to refer to, hence one choose Lord Krishna, rama,Shankar or whatever. // There is no reason to believe that we know our needs more clearly than God does// If there is no reason for us to beleieve above, then why to remind God about money and such nonsense matters which as per your above lines, He already knows? This is like without studying his books the student goes to his class Teacher and tells him " Please give me good marks " . Is this right ? // Let us pour our heart out to God.// pouring our heart is a seperate matter. crying in love or pain is a seperate matter. But crying for material wants is the most dirty thing one could ask God. We must be eligible from the strength of our Karmas to receive this and not ask God. //And let us > not restrict ourselves in front of God. // Not restricting does not mean laying down a shopping List in front of Him and telling him with tears in our eyes " What to do " regards/Bhaskar. , " Chakraborty, PL " <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar-ji, > > I would like to disagree to some extent. > > We have enough deities. Some say 33 Koti. That 'koti' > may mean Crore (10 million) or may also mean 'Quality' > (as used for quality control labs). > > So many deities are there because people of different > qualities may relate to different deities easiliy and start > praying. A businessman would pray to Laxmi-ji & Ganesh-ji > whereas a student will pary to Saraswati-ji. > > Let us pour our heart out to God. Let God decide what is best > for us and act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that > we know our needs more clearly than God does. And let us > not restrict ourselves in front of God. Because praying is also > a sort of purifying process. > > regards > > Chakraborty > > > ________________________________ > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:50 AM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > > > Dear friends, > > Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate. Cant do that also without money. > > But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones hard work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the satisfaction of having tried to earn money. > > If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ? Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not. > > One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love. > > Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > --- In <%40\ groups.com>, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Girish, > > > > > > > > Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for > > ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground > > for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai > > Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual > > development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people. > > > > > > > > Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is > > essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future > > security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it > > doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the > > next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not > > interested in spiritual development. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > <%40\ groups.com> > > [ <\ %40>] On Behalf Of Girish menon > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM > > To: <%40\ groups.com> > > Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > > > humility. > > People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the > > population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days > > miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth > > and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs. > > Thanks and regards > > Girish > > > > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > To: <%40\ groups.com> > > Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti > > or anything else? > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ > > .> wrote: > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions > > of > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste. > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask my wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am not doing, so I know nothing. Cheers, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > comparison.// > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God > is there and (2) God is listening. > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front of > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care > for what people think of him. > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of the > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church > or > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > stotras > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on that > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated > now) > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem > and > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > > comparison. > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it is > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when > you > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of Agarbathis > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > prayer > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration from > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of emotion. > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a higher > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your heart > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > itself. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm > of > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti > > or anything else? > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity > and > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Vidya > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > fairly > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I > go > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > millions > > of > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste. > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM To: Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask my wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am not doing, so I know nothing. Cheers, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > comparison.// > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God > is there and (2) God is listening. > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front of > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care > for what people think of him. > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of the > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church > or > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > stotras > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on that > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated > now) > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem > and > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > > comparison. > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it is > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when > you > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of Agarbathis > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > prayer > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration from > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of emotion. > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a higher > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your heart > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > itself. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm > of > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti > > or anything else? > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity > and > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Vidya > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > fairly > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I > go > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > millions > > of > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste. > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Please check the 11th from My Arudha. In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their wife will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K and plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. Cheers, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask my > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am > not doing, so I know nothing. > > Cheers, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > problem > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > lord > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > > comparison.// > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front > of > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care > > for what people think of him. > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of > the > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church > > or > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > stotras > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > that > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated > > now) > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem > > and > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > in > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it > is > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when > > you > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > Agarbathis > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > prayer > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > from > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > emotion. > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > higher > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > heart > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > forsm > > of > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > agarbatti > > > or anything else? > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity > > and > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Vidya > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > fairly > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we > had > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when > I > > go > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > millions > > > of > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > waste. > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Bhaskar-ji, Yes, we need to have something (face / idea) to relate to, revere to and pray to. Most of the times, we wish for wrong things...because our root identification was wrong. Like asking for 1 million dollar (we have thought that money would make us happy and happiness that we do desire) rather than asking for happiness. Tagore had written somewhere that 'Jaha chai taha bhul kore chai jaha chai ta paina' (Jo chahte hain, woh galat chahte hain Jo chahte hain..woh milta nahin). So, it is much easier to pray to God saying that this is my condition. Please do something about it.. I am not asking anybody to give laundry list. Once somebody starts praying regularly with sincere heart, he will undergo some changes from inside. And if we can not talk freely to God...then with whom would we talk freely ? Some people will always pray to God for thousand things. Thankfully, God has not give me enough wisdom so that i can judge them regards Chakraborty On Behalf Of BhaskarWednesday, December 09, 2009 12:12 PM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Dear Chakraborty jiThese 33 karod devi devatas are all manifestations of the same Trimurti, Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh. If one does not wish to pray to any of these but wants God, then one can take a agarabatti and start praying in front of a cow, for its said that in a cow there is "vaas" of all these "taintees karod devi devatas". But understandable we need a face to relate to, a form to love, a name to refer to, hence one choose Lord Krishna, rama,Shankar or whatever.// There is no reason to believe thatwe know our needs more clearly than God does//If there is no reason for us to beleieve above, then why to remind God about money and such nonsense matters which as per your above lines, He already knows? This is like without studying his books the student goes to his class Teacher and tells him "Please give me good marks". Is this right ? // Let us pour our heart out to God.//pouring our heart is a seperate matter. crying in love or pain is a seperate matter. But crying for material wants is the most dirty thing one could ask God. We must be eligible from the strength of our Karmas to receive this and not ask God.//And let us> not restrict ourselves in front of God. //Not restricting does not mean laying down a shopping List in front of Him and telling him with tears in our eyes "What to do "regards/Bhaskar. , "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar-ji,> > I would like to disagree to some extent.> > We have enough deities. Some say 33 Koti. That 'koti'> may mean Crore (10 million) or may also mean 'Quality'> (as used for quality control labs).> > So many deities are there because people of different> qualities may relate to different deities easiliy and start> praying. A businessman would pray to Laxmi-ji & Ganesh-ji> whereas a student will pary to Saraswati-ji.> > Let us pour our heart out to God. Let God decide what is best> for us and act accordingly. There is no reason to believe that> we know our needs more clearly than God does. And let us> not restrict ourselves in front of God. Because praying is also> a sort of purifying process.> > regards> > Chakraborty> > > ________________________________> On Behalf Of Bhaskar> Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:50 AM> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?> > > > Dear friends,> > Financial security is of course very much necessary in ones Life. one needs Rupee 1 in his pocket in cities like Bombay even when one wishes to urinate. Cant do that also without money.> > But, I do not feel its right asking God for money.Money must come from ones hard work , labour and Karmas in the right directions. If there its fine, if not there, no cry. I am kt going to turn into Dal Fry. At least one will have the satisfaction of having tried to earn money.> > If I seek a holiday trip with Vidya Balan the beautiful and most wanted fresh looking face in Bollywood, then its my bevakoofi. I must see my aukaat first. In same way asking God to give you more than what your destiny is already giving you, is not right. Why must he be asked to crcumvent our force of Karma and its results and break the laws of nature and provide us for what we do not have ? Are we Narsi Mehta or Soordas or Meera bais ? No we are not.> > One must ask God only to make him elgible enough to gain his Grace and love.> > Hey Prabhu,mujhe apne laayak bane le.> > best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > > <%40>, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> >> > Dear Girish,> >> >> >> > Fulfillment of materialistic needs is essential for spiritual growth for> > ordinary mortals like us. Financial insecurity is not a nutritious ground> > for spiritual development. I am not talking of a person like Shirdi Sai> > Baba, for whom money did not hold any value at all and his spiritual> > development didn't need it. I am talking about you and me ordinary people.> >> >> >> > Absolutely nothing wrong in asking god for money and wealth which is> > essential for your survival, for your family's existence and for future> > security. This frees the mind to seek spiritual growth. But mostly it> > doesn't work like that. After you have got what you want, may be for the> > next 10 generations still you ask for more. Well such people are not> > interested in spiritual development.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Santhosh> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> > <%40>> > [ <%40>] On Behalf Of Girish menon> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:46 AM> > <%40>> > Re: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > Combust ?> >> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear Santosh> > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > > humility.> > People perform prayers to fulfill their materialistic needs. Majority of the> > population visits temples for this purpose. And seeing the present days> > miseries it doesn't seem to work. I feel one must pray for spiritual growth> > and not for fulfillment of materialistic needs.> > Thanks and regards> > Girish> >> > --- On Tue, 12/8/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> >> >> > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>> > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > Combust ?> > <%40>> > Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 9:10 PM> >> >> >> > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,> >> > How must one pray to God ?> >> > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or> > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate forsm of> > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an agarbatti> > or anything else?> >> > Which is most effective.> >> > regards/Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> > .> wrote:> > >> > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji> > >> > >> > >> > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity and> > > humility.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards> > >> > > Santhosh> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Vidya> > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > Combust ?> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > >> > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do> > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is fairly> > > inexpensive if done by ourselves.> > >> > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its> > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we had> > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when I go> > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of> > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see millions> > of> > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is> > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to waste.> > >> > > Vidya> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> > > 01:24:00> > >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09> > 01:24:00> >> > > > This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. 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Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! Don’t worry I wont venture any guesses J Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Please check the 11th from My Arudha. In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their wife will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K and plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. Cheers, Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask my > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am > not doing, so I know nothing. > > Cheers, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > problem > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > lord > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full in > > comparison.// > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that (1)God > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in front > of > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not care > > for what people think of him. > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, recitations, > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but Talking > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of > the > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian church > > or > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > stotras > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > that > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated > > now) > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our problem > > and > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the lord > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > in > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it > is > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and when > > you > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > Agarbathis > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > prayer > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > from > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > emotion. > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > higher > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > heart > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently or > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > forsm > > of > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > agarbatti > > > or anything else? > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost sincerity > > and > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Vidya > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting do > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > fairly > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we > had > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like when > I > > go > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any of > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > millions > > > of > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind is > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > waste. > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Sir, In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But otherwise be honest. Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. regards/Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their wife > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K and > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > Cheers, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > my > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > Cheers, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > problem > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > lord > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > in > > > comparison.// > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > (1)God > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > front > > of > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > care > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > recitations, > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > Talking > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of > > the > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > church > > > or > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > stotras > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > that > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated > > > now) > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > problem > > > and > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > lord > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > in > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it > > is > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > when > > > you > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > Agarbathis > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > prayer > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > from > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > emotion. > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > higher > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > heart > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > or > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > forsm > > > of > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > agarbatti > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > sincerity > > > and > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Vidya > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered > as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting > do > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > fairly > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we > > had > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > when > > I > > > go > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > of > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > millions > > > > of > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind > is > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 My Dear Friend, I am 100% with you on this. Regards] Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Sir, In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But otherwise be honest. Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. regards/Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their wife > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K and > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > Cheers, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > my > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I am > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > Cheers, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > problem > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > lord > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > in > > > comparison.// > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > (1)God > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > front > > of > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > care > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > recitations, > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > Talking > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime of > > the > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > church > > > or > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > stotras > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > that > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not moderated > > > now) > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > problem > > > and > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > lord > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > in > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when it > > is > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > when > > > you > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > Agarbathis > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > prayer > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > from > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > emotion. > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > higher > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > heart > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level of > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > or > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > forsm > > > of > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > agarbatti > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > sincerity > > > and > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Vidya > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered > as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, fasting > do > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > fairly > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts its > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what we > > had > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > when > > I > > > go > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > of > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > millions > > > > of > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so mankind > is > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Thank You, We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions(Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. regards/Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > My Dear Friend, > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > Regards] > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Sir, > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > otherwise be honest. > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > wife > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > and > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > Cheers, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > my > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > am > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > problem > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > the > > > lord > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > in > > > > comparison.// > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > (1)God > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > front > > > of > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > care > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > recitations, > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > Talking > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > of > > > the > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > church > > > > or > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > stotras > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > that > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > moderated > > > > now) > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > problem > > > > and > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > lord > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > full > > > in > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > it > > > is > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > when > > > > you > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > Agarbathis > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > prayer > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > from > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > emotion. > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > higher > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > heart > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > of > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered > as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > or > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > forsm > > > > of > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > agarbatti > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > sincerity > > > > and > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be > considered > > as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > fasting > > do > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > fairly > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > its > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > we > > > had > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > when > > > I > > > > go > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > of > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > millions > > > > > of > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > mankind > > is > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 So its like a few of left here is it? It is like all our family member have gone to another place for some marriage or something, except that it is not such an auspicious function. What are they discussing about so seriously and which is the group? I am also into Kerala astrology group and Sureshji is teaching Kalachakra dasa now. We have just begun the preliminaries.I am only on these two groups and nowhere else. In KP I have seen that both day lord and hour lord can be considered as RP. Which do you consider? Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:47 PM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Thank You, We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions(Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. regards/Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > My Dear Friend, > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > Regards] > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Sir, > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > otherwise be honest. > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > wife > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > and > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > Cheers, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > my > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > am > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > problem > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > the > > > lord > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > in > > > > comparison.// > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > (1)God > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > front > > > of > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > care > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > recitations, > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > Talking > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > of > > > the > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > church > > > > or > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > stotras > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > that > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > moderated > > > > now) > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > problem > > > > and > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > lord > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > full > > > in > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > it > > > is > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > when > > > > you > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > Agarbathis > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > prayer > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > from > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > emotion. > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > higher > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > heart > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > of > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered > as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > or > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > forsm > > > > of > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > agarbatti > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > sincerity > > > > and > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be > considered > > as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > fasting > > do > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > fairly > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > its > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > we > > > had > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > when > > > I > > > > go > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > of > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > millions > > > > > of > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > mankind > > is > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 I consider only 4 Planets. LSRD. The lagna star I take only when necessary. If I take the hour Lord, then it will make it 6 planets in the RP's. What is the sense of so many planets, is what I feel. The Lagna Lord itself suffices for the Hour Lord. the Day Lord is important in some cases though it appears last in order of importance. Aap jaaiye " Jyotish group " mein aur fight join kar leejiye. HaHaHa. regards/Bhaskar. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > So its like a few of left here is it? It is like all our family member have > gone to another place for some marriage or something, except that it is not > such an auspicious function. What are they discussing about so seriously and > which is the group? > > > > I am also into Kerala astrology group and Sureshji is teaching Kalachakra > dasa now. We have just begun the preliminaries.I am only on these two groups > and nowhere else. > > > > In KP I have seen that both day lord and hour lord can be considered as RP. > Which do you consider? > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 2:47 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Thank You, > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important > members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum > and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their > discussions(Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not > been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they > may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action > here. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > My Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > Regards] > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > [ancient_indian_ > <%40> > astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. > But > > otherwise be honest. > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in > terms > > > of contentment,satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > > wife > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > > and > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get > me > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing > of > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <%40> > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. > Ask > > > my > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > > am > > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <%40> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered > as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > problem > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > > the > > > > lord > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > full > > > in > > > > > comparison.// > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > > (1)God > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > > front > > > > of > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does > not > > > care > > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > > recitations, > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > > Talking > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > > of > > > > the > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > > church > > > > > or > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't > definitely > > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras > or > > > > > stotras > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically > and > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark > on > > > > that > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > > moderated > > > > > now) > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > problem > > > > > and > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > the > > > lord > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > > full > > > > in > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as > when > > it > > > > is > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart > and > > > when > > > > > you > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > > Agarbathis > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the > core > > > > > prayer > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of > concentration > > > > from > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > > emotion. > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to > a > > > > higher > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from > your > > > > heart > > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > > of > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the > prayer > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <%40> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be > considered > > as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited > silently > > > or > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, > elaborate > > > > forsm > > > > > of > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > > agarbatti > > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > > sincerity > > > > > and > > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <%40> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com] > On > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <%40> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > > > > > Re: Is Mercury to be > > considered > > > as > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > > fasting > > > do > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it > is > > > > > fairly > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > > its > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be > what > > we > > > > had > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > > when > > > > I > > > > > go > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind > any > > > of > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > > millions > > > > > > of > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > > mankind > > > is > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone > to > > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release > Date: > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Dear Bhaskar jiCan you please tell which forum is itRegardsGirish--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM Thank You, We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. regards/Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@.. .> wrote: > > My Dear Friend, > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > Regards] > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > ancient_indian_ astrology > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > Combust ? > > > > > > Sir, > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > otherwise be honest. > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > regards/Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com > > [ancient_ indian_ > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > astrology@grou ps.com > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > wife > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > and > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > Cheers, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf > Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > my > > > wife about me. She will say "he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means "Earning good money" which I > am > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > Cheers, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > Behalf > > Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > ancient_indian_ > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > problem > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > the > > > lord > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > in > > > > comparison./ / > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer,"Talking with God". > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > (1)God > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > front > > > of > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > care > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > recitations, > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > Talking > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > of > > > the > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > church > > > > or > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > stotras > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > that > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > moderated > > > > now) > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > problem > > > > and > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > lord > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > full > > > in > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > it > > > is > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > when > > > > you > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > Agarbathis > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > prayer > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > from > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > emotion. > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > higher > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > heart > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > of > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > Behalf > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered > as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > or > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > forsm > > > > of > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > agarbatti > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > sincerity > > > > and > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be > considered > > as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > fasting > > do > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > fairly > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > its > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > we > > > had > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > when > > > I > > > > go > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > of > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > millions > > > > > of > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > mankind > > is > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele. , Girish menon <horamag wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > Can you please tell which forum is it > Regards > Girish > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM >  > > > Thank You, > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ .> wrote: > > > > > > My Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards] > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > > > otherwise be honest. > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > > > wife > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > > > and > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > > > my > > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > > > am > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > problem > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > > > in > > > > > > comparison./ / > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > > > (1)God > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > > > front > > > > > of > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > > > care > > > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > > > recitations, > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > > > Talking > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > > > church > > > > > > or > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > > > stotras > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > > > that > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > > > moderated > > > > > > now) > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > problem > > > > > > and > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > > > lord > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > > > full > > > > > in > > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > > > when > > > > > > you > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > > > Agarbathis > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > > > prayer > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > > > from > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > > > emotion. > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > > > higher > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > > > heart > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > > > of > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered > > > as > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > > > or > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > > > forsm > > > > > > of > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > > > agarbatti > > > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > > > sincerity > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be > > > considered > > > > as > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > > > fasting > > > > do > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > > > fairly > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > > > its > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > > > we > > > > > had > > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > > > when > > > > > I > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > > > of > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > > > millions > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > > > mankind > > > > is > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish? I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti? I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. So you tick to 4 RP Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign Am I right? Can you please expand LSRD? Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele. , Girish menon <horamag wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > Can you please tell which forum is it > Regards > Girish > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ .> wrote: > > > > > > My Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards] > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > > > otherwise be honest. > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > > > wife > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > > > and > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > > > my > > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > > > am > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > problem > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > > > in > > > > > > comparison./ / > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > > > (1)God > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > > > front > > > > > of > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > > > care > > > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > > > recitations, > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > > > Talking > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > > > church > > > > > > or > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > > > stotras > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > > > that > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > > > moderated > > > > > > now) > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > problem > > > > > > and > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > > > lord > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > > > full > > > > > in > > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > > > when > > > > > > you > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > > > Agarbathis > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > > > prayer > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > > > from > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > > > emotion. > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > > > higher > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > > > heart > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > > > of > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered > > > as > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > > > or > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > > > forsm > > > > > > of > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > > > agarbatti > > > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > > > sincerity > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be > > > considered > > > > as > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > > > fasting > > > > do > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > > > fairly > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > > > its > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > > > we > > > > > had > > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > > > when > > > > > I > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > > > of > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > > > millions > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > > > mankind > > > > is > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Saath jiyenge saath marenge--- On Wed, 12/9/09, Santhosh <santhosh wrote:Santhosh <santhoshRE: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? Date: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:45 AM Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish? I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti? I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. So you tick to 4 RP Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign Am I right? Can you please expand LSRD? Regards Santhosh ancient_indian_ astrology [ ancient_indian_ astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM ancient_indian_ astrology Subject: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele. ancient_indian_ astrology, Girish menon <horamag > wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji > Can you please tell which forum is it > Regards > Girish > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> wrote: > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > ancient_indian_ astrology > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@ .> wrote: > > > > > > My Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards] > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_ indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > > > otherwise be honest. > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > > > wife > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > > > and > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > > > my > > > > > wife about me. She will say "he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means "Earning good money" which I > > > am > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > Behalf > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > problem > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > > > the > > > > > lord > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > > > in > > > > > > comparison./ / > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer,"Talking with God". > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > > > (1)God > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > > > front > > > > > of > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > > > care > > > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > > > recitations, > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > > > Talking > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > > > of > > > > > the > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > > > church > > > > > > or > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > > > stotras > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > > > that > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > > > moderated > > > > > > now) > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > problem > > > > > > and > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > > > lord > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > > > full > > > > > in > > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > > > it > > > > > is > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > > > when > > > > > > you > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > > > Agarbathis > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > > > prayer > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > > > from > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > > > emotion. > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > > > higher > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > > > heart > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > > > of > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > Behalf > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered > > > as > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > > > or > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > > > forsm > > > > > > of > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > > > agarbatti > > > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > > > sincerity > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be > > > considered > > > > as > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > > > fasting > > > > do > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > > > fairly > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > > > its > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > > > we > > > > > had > > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > > > when > > > > > I > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > > > of > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > > > millions > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > > > mankind > > > > is > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > > 01:24:00 > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 // I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. // For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for what what others might think around me. Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind. I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive language once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members nonsense talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit vluntarily, informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high expectations from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the stick always falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my back. (Remember that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and Prans matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ? -- In , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish? > > > > I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti? > > > > I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. > > > > So you tick to 4 RP > > Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign > > Am I right? > > > > Can you please expand LSRD? > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > > > > > aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , Girish menon <horamag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Can you please tell which forum is it > > Regards > > Girish > > > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > > > > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > > > > > otherwise be honest. > > > > > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > > > > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > > > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > > > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > > > > > wife > > > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > > > > > and > > > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > > > > > my > > > > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > > > > > am > > > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > comparison./ / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > > > > > (1)God > > > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > > > > > front > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > > > > > care > > > > > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > > > > > recitations, > > > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > > > > > Talking > > > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > > > > > church > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > > > > > stotras > > > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > > > > > moderated > > > > > > > > now) > > > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > > > > > full > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > > > > > it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > > > > > Agarbathis > > > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > > > > > prayer > > > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > > > > > emotion. > > > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > > > > > heart > > > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > > > > > forsm > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > > > > > agarbatti > > > > > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > > > > > sincerity > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be > > > > > considered > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > > > > > fasting > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > > > > > fairly > > > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > > > > > we > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > > > > > when > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > > > > > millions > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > > > > > mankind > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > > > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 My goodness, Comparing it to that movie really gave me the laughs.. I don’t think anybody around you would have thought much about you laughing aloud. They probably have a certain view about you and what you did would have perfectly fit into that viewJ Regards Santhosh On Behalf Of Bhaskar Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? // I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. // For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for what what others might think around me. Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind. I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive language once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members nonsense talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit vluntarily, informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high expectations from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the stick always falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my back. (Remember that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and Prans matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ? -- In , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish? > > > > I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti? > > > > I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. > > > > So you tick to 4 RP > > Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign > > Am I right? > > > > Can you please expand LSRD? > > > > Regards > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > > > > > aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele. > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , Girish menon <horamag@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > Can you please tell which forum is it > > Regards > > Girish > > > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ .> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > > > > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > > > > > otherwise be honest. > > > > > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > > > > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > > > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > > > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > > > > > wife > > > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > > > > > and > > > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > > > > > my > > > > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > > > > > am > > > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > > > > > the > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > comparison./ / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > > > > > (1)God > > > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > > > > > front > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > > > > > care > > > > > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > > > > > recitations, > > > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > > > > > Talking > > > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > > > > > of > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > > > > > church > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > > > > > stotras > > > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > > > > > moderated > > > > > > > > now) > > > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > > > > > full > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > > > > > it > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > > > > > Agarbathis > > > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > > > > > prayer > > > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > > > > > emotion. > > > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > > > > > heart > > > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > > > > > forsm > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > > > > > agarbatti > > > > > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > > > > > sincerity > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be > > > > > considered > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > > > > > fasting > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > > > > > fairly > > > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > > > > > we > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > > > > > when > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > > > > > millions > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > > > > > mankind > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > > > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Bhaskar ji,//Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind.//yes i second you in this.The tragedy of mankind is majority live/think either past or future and miss the PRESENT FROM GOD.....and seek astrologers!!!....-gopi. , "Bhaskar" <bhaskar_jyotish wrote:>> // I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group.> // > > For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for what what others might think around me. > > Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind.> > I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive language once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members nonsense talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit vluntarily, informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high expectations from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the stick always falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my back. (Remember that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and Prans matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ?> > > > -- In , "Santhosh" santhosh@ wrote:> >> > Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish?> > > > > > > > I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti?> > > > > > > > I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group.> > > > > > > > So you tick to 4 RP> > > > Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign> > > > Am I right?> > > > > > > > Can you please expand LSRD?> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM> > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele.> > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , Girish menon <horamag@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji> > > Can you please tell which forum is it> > > Regards> > > Girish> > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote:> > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@>> > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ?> > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You,> > > > > > > > > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here.> > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Santhosh" <santhosh@ .> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > My Dear Friend,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards]> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But> > > > > > > otherwise be honest.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you> > > > > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ?> > > > > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!!> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com> > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com> > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms> > > > > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to> > > > > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their> > > > > > > wife> > > > > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me> > > > > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of> > > > > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll…> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf> > > > > > > Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM> > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask> > > > > > > > my> > > > > > > > > wife about me. She will say "he knows nothing. He is a time waster. "> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means "Earning good money" which I> > > > > > > am> > > > > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers,> > > > > > > > > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-)> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On> > > > > > > Behalf> > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM> > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as> > > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our> > > > > > > > > problem> > > > > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to> > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full> > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > comparison./ /> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer,"Talking with God". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that> > > > > > > > (1)God> > > > > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in> > > > > > > > front> > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not> > > > > > > > care> > > > > > > > > > for what people think of him.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras,> > > > > > > > recitations,> > > > > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but> > > > > > > > Talking> > > > > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes,> > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian> > > > > > > > church> > > > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely> > > > > > > > > > > differentiate between the place.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or> > > > > > > > > > stotras> > > > > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and> > > > > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on> > > > > > > > > that> > > > > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not> > > > > > > moderated> > > > > > > > > > now)> > > > > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our> > > > > > > > problem> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the> > > > > > > > lord> > > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power> > > > > > > full> > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > comparison.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the> > > > > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when> > > > > > > it> > > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and> > > > > > > > when> > > > > > > > > > you> > > > > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of> > > > > > > > > Agarbathis> > > > > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core> > > > > > > > > > prayer> > > > > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration> > > > > > > > > from> > > > > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of> > > > > > > > > emotion.> > > > > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a> > > > > > > > > higher> > > > > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your> > > > > > > > > heart> > > > > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level> > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer> > > > > > > > > > itself.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On> > > > > > > > Behalf> > > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar> > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM> > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered> > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently> > > > > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate> > > > > > > > > forsm> > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an> > > > > > > > > agarbatti> > > > > > > > > > > or anything else?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com,> > > > > > > > > > "Santhosh" <santhosh@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost> > > > > > > > sincerity> > > > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > humility.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_> > > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On> > > > > > > > > Behalf> > > > > > > > > > Of Vidya> > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM> > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_> > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com>> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com> > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be> > > > > > > considered> > > > > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > > > Combust ?> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja,> > > > > > > fasting> > > > > > > > do> > > > > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is> > > > > > > > > > fairly> > > > > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts> > > > > > > its> > > > > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what> > > > > > > we> > > > > > > > > had> > > > > > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like> > > > > > > > when> > > > > > > > > I> > > > > > > > > > go> > > > > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any> > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see> > > > > > > > > > millions> > > > > > > > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so> > > > > > > mankind> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to> > > > > > > > > waste.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date:> > > > > > > > > > 12/09/09> > > > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date:> > > > > > > > > 12/09/09> > > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date:> > > > > > > > 12/09/09> > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date:> > > > > > > 12/09/09> > > > > > > > > 01:24:00> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09> > > > > > > > 01:24:00> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09> > > > > > > 01:24:00> > > > > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com> > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 kya kahna chahte ho Bhai ??? Kaise kaise dil todne waale majaak karte ho ji aap .. , " Santhosh " <santhosh wrote: > > My goodness, > > Comparing it to that movie really gave me the laughs.. > > > > I don’t think anybody around you would have thought much about you laughing aloud. They probably have a certain view about you and what you did would have perfectly fit into that view:-) > > > > Regards > > Santhosh > > > > > > _____ > > On Behalf Of Bhaskar > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:38 PM > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > > > > > // I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. > // > > For first time I have laughed loudly in last two weeks, without caring for what what others might think around me. > > Neither do I understand all this talk. And neither did I too ever understand whats going to be established and how will help present and future mankind. > > I unsusbcribed from that Group myself two times,was banned for abusive language once and the last time I was there was so angered at certain members nonsense talking that before I could get to my natural language I just quit vluntarily, informing the Owner/Moderator. And this kind Moderator has high expectations from me and cannot bear me to use unparliamentary language. so the stick always falls on me. This time I quit myself before it could fall on my back. (Remember that scene from some Amitabhs movie where Pran is the jailor and Prans matschstick always falls on Amitabhs back) ? > > -- In ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology , " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > Don’t worry, we both will remain here, wont we girish? > > > > > > > > I think it is something to do with uttarayana and dakshinayana and makara sankranti? > > > > > > > > I wonder what they would gain by establishing something of that early period. I read they were talking about some BC year. Anyway I too didn’t understand much and so not interested to join that group. > > > > > > > > So you tick to 4 RP > > > > Lagna Sign, Lagna Star, Moon Sign and Moon sign > > > > Am I right? > > > > > > > > Can you please expand LSRD? > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology [ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology ] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 3:10 PM > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > aare Bhai sab wahan par chale jaaoge tab main yahan par kya karoonga akele. > > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com, Girish menon <horamag@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji > > > Can you please tell which forum is it > > > Regards > > > Girish > > > > > > --- On Wed, 12/9/09, Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar <bhaskar_jyotish@> > > > Re: Is Mercury to be considered as Combust ? > > > ancient_indian_ <%40> astrology@grou <astrology%40> ps.com > > > Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 1:16 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thank You, > > > > > > > > > > > > We have got nothing much left to talk here, because most of the important members here are jointly trying to take on a single person in another forum and have been unsuccessful till date. I have been following their discussions( Not in details)but know this much that they have jointly not been able to push that man out of his beliefs right or wrong whatever they may be and still struggling till now, which is why we see less of action here. > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Santhosh " <santhosh@ ..> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My Dear Friend, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am 100% with you on this. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 1:37 PM > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sir, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In this life what else matters, tell me honestly, for a man ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unless if a person is 85 years old, then some other matters may matter. But > > > > > > > otherwise be honest. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Tell me truthfully what is the charm in Life without both of above ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I will accept honestly and graceully that for me, there is none if you > > > > > > > remove both from my Life. What about You ? You have dfferent preferences ? > > > > > > > (Now dont get me wrong, I do not mean to be joking or gay, but serious). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But I write all this in a subtle manner, hope you will agree. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com, " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it all boils down to money and ladies eh!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Don't worry I wont venture any guesses :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:39 PM > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > astrology@grou ps.com > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please check the 11th from My Arudha. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my case name may be big. But money wise,am a small fig. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Definition of ample money,in terms of necessity, comfort level or in terms > > > > > > > > of contentment, satisfaction differs from house to house and from lady to > > > > > > > > lady. For some fortunate men even if they earn Rs.5000 per month, their > > > > > > > wife > > > > > > > > will provide shade to them, and for other not so fortunates even Rs.50K > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > plus may only bring forth the sharpness of a razor blade. Now dont get me > > > > > > > > wrong I do not mean to say anything so no wild guesses. just informing of > > > > > > > > what could happen in different home with different types of ladies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You a celebrity astrologer and not earning!!! Well welll… > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On Behalf > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 12:14 PM > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know nothing. I just enjoy learning when others share their views. Ask > > > > > > > > my > > > > > > > > > wife about me. She will say " he knows nothing. He is a time waster. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Boss knowing in this material world means " Earning good money " which I > > > > > > > am > > > > > > > > > not doing, so I know nothing. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You knew the answer and you were testing me :-) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 11:39 AM > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered as > > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > // I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > and ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power full > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > comparison./ / > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I feel this is the best way to offer a prayer, " Talking with God " . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When a person talks with God, he has already formed that faith that > > > > > > > > (1)God > > > > > > > > > > is there and (2) God is listening. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This may seem stupid to people who suddenly see a person sitting in > > > > > > > > front > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > Gods photo and talking, but then a person who talks with God does not > > > > > > > > care > > > > > > > > > > for what people think of him. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Conversations with God is what is required. Mantras, Stotras, > > > > > > > > recitations, > > > > > > > > > > japa are all necessary for putting a discipline in ones Life, but > > > > > > > > Talking > > > > > > > > > > with God does not need any discipline. One can talk with Him anytime > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > > > > day, when one is happy, when one is sad, when one is feeling alone. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > All forms of prayers are powerful. It can be a prayer in a X'tian > > > > > > > > church > > > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > a Muslim mosque or Hindu temple. The divine power doesn't definitely > > > > > > > > > > > differentiate between the place. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Similarly all modes of prayers whether you use mantras or tantras or > > > > > > > > > > stotras > > > > > > > > > > > or ritual will be effective if done from the bottom of the heart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You would have seen the Pujari reciting the mantras mechanically and > > > > > > > > > > > chanting your name in between. Without making any negative remark on > > > > > > > > > that > > > > > > > > > > > mode, and thereby hurting someone (especially since I am not > > > > > > > moderated > > > > > > > > > > now) > > > > > > > > > > > I would say that if we close our own eyes and concentrate on our > > > > > > > > problem > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > ask the lord to show us the best possible way (don't suggest to the > > > > > > > > lord > > > > > > > > > > > what you want, let him decide) then such prayer can be more power > > > > > > > full > > > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > > comparison. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The prayer can be silent or loud. But when it is loud, I feel the > > > > > > > > > > > communication with the divine power may not be as intensive as when > > > > > > > it > > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > silent as when you are silent you can go deeper into your heart and > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > > you > > > > > > > > > > > are aloud it comes from the throat chakra. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make your prayer as elaborate as possible, with lots of > > > > > > > > > Agarbathis > > > > > > > > > > > and lamps and other things, but it will not be effective if the core > > > > > > > > > > prayer > > > > > > > > > > > is not done sincerely and with lots of emotion and concentration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mantra chanting can be used to bring you to a level of concentration > > > > > > > > > from > > > > > > > > > > > where it is easy to communicate from your heart and with lots of > > > > > > > > > emotion. > > > > > > > > > > > Hence prayer at the end of mantra chanting will be very effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rituals create a divine atmosphere and takes everybody present to a > > > > > > > > > higher > > > > > > > > > > > level of consciousness and hence it is easy to communicate from your > > > > > > > > > heart > > > > > > > > > > > at the end of the rituals. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Therefore mantras and rituals become a means to enter into a level > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > effective prayer rather than the ritual and mantras being the prayer > > > > > > > > > > itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > > > Of Bhaskar > > > > > > > > > > > Wednesday, December 09, 2009 10:41 AM > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be considered > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Santosh ji and Vidya ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How must one pray to God ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Is it use of syllables to be recited, mantras to be recited silently > > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > > > > > aloud, or does prayer consist of stotras, ritual worship, elaborate > > > > > > > > > forsm > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > worship, Home worship done by a householder, or just lighting an > > > > > > > > > agarbatti > > > > > > > > > > > or anything else? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Which is most effective. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards/Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com, > > > > > > > > > > " Santhosh " <santhosh@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You are absolutely right Vidya Ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Prayers have immense power, provided it is done with utmost > > > > > > > > sincerity > > > > > > > > > > and > > > > > > > > > > > > humility. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Santhosh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_ indian_ > > > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com] On > > > > > > > > > Behalf > > > > > > > > > > Of Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > Tuesday, December 08, 2009 7:16 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ > > > > > > > > > <ancient_ indian_astrology %40. com> > > > > > > > > > > > astrology@grou <astrology% 40. com> ps.com > > > > > > > > > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Is Mercury to be > > > > > > > considered > > > > > > > > as > > > > > > > > > > > > Combust ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In my own practice even simple remedies like prayers, puja, > > > > > > > fasting > > > > > > > > do > > > > > > > > > > > > give good results if performed with complete sincerity..Plus it is > > > > > > > > > > fairly > > > > > > > > > > > > inexpensive if done by ourselves. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I have noticed even when the sincerity is lacking, or we doubts > > > > > > > its > > > > > > > > > > > > effectiveness it will still give some results. It may not be what > > > > > > > we > > > > > > > > > had > > > > > > > > > > > > asked for but something good is always rewarded..It is just like > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > > I > > > > > > > > > > go > > > > > > > > > > > > to the temple most of the time I don't know the meaning behind any > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > those rituals but it gives me happiness by doing it. You can see > > > > > > > > > > millions > > > > > > > > > > > of > > > > > > > > > > > > people still continue to go to temples/ place of worship so > > > > > > > mankind > > > > > > > > is > > > > > > > > > > > > getting some benefits from it. So no human effort is ever gone to > > > > > > > > > waste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Vidya > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.98/2551 - Release Date: > > > > > > > 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > > > > > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release Date: 12/09/09 > > > > > > > 01:24:00 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 > > > > > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.709 / Virus Database: 270.14.99/2553 - Release 12/09/09 01:24:00 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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